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"Which one? I get confused with so many Golfs plus heard they can be a bump to run? Also i like a car that has cool interior like the mini " I think Mini's are girly cars. Don't know any guys who have them, but know a couple of ladies who do. | |||
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"budget wise hmm if buying cash maybe £6 to 8k stretch. If finance deal then maybe something around the value of £12/15k " You can get a decent car for that money. If you've got £6-8k I wouldn't bother with finance | |||
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"Buy something Japanese !! " Keep away from Ichifannies though | |||
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"we are part owners of a garage and don't know many serious drivers that keep minis for long. vw, audi, skoda and the rest of the germans only seem to come in for tyres and maintainance, fords are popular again, Vauxhalls are ok for a few years " FORDS are quite soft suspension wise...they break alot VAUXHALLS ..much the same nowadys and dont even get me started on french cars....lol VW/Audi/Skoda....you wont go wrong | |||
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"I would only get a diesel if you will do regular motorway driving. All modern diesels have a DPF which will give you problems unless you drive at high speeds for a decent period of time regularly " around 30 miles at 60mph keeps them clean | |||
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"Time to make my first post job adult decision Part of my job is to travel within 50 miles using my own car so i need something that looks classy, smooth drive and few gadgets/gimmicks to keep me occupied plus prefer a smaller car. Also need to decide either to go for a finance deal or buy outright if affordable second hand price. Any ideas guys? Currently im looking into Minis, Seats, Vauxhall Vxr or the Nissan Juke hmm I drive a Nissan Micra 1.6 3dr bit girly but it was a decent car for sharing and will be gifted to sister. " . A Ford Fiesta whilst very common is a great car , drives well and is cheap to run. With Ford Mondeos you get a lot of car for you money. I might be biased as I have both . One is kept in Ireland , the other in the UK. VW Golfs are an excellent car but expensive to buy . You are paying for the VW name . As someone has already pointed out , the Skoda Octavia is good value . It has never really appealed to me though | |||
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"Which one? I get confused with so many Golfs plus heard they can be a bump to run? Also i like a car that has cool interior like the mini I think Mini's are girly cars. Don't know any guys who have them, but know a couple of ladies who do. " As a Mini Cooper s driver. I recommend one but the S is a hard ride with hard suspension. I only do on average 20 miles a day | |||
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"I'm in chorley and my skyline r34 is for sale not massively fuel efficiant but you'll get to work quick haha" and you could buy my gsxr for the summer, with that and the skyline you'll lose your license and not have to worry about getting to work | |||
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"might be to big but have a look at the Peugeot 407 coupe you should get one with 50000 for around £5k and use the rest for insurance or the laguna coupe for around £7-8k I had a laguna coupe and it gets lots of interest looks wise" . Did you find the Laguna reliable ?. | |||
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"None of you have any taste whatsoever... Alfa 159 JTDm. Ignore the fools that tell you they break down - they're just as reliable as anything out there. Ignore the fools that say you'll have electrical problems - they switched to Bosch years ago and they're as good as anything out there. Ignore the fools who say they rust - Alfa were the first car company to use galvanised metals. With your budget you'll get a late model 159 with low miles and every gardget there is. Or buy Japanese! Whatever you decide - DONT BUY FRENCH!" Had a Peugeot company car and did 150000 miles over 3 years and never let me down Shame they didn't think to use galvanised on my old alfa sud ! lol | |||
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"might be to big but have a look at the Peugeot 407 coupe you should get one with 50000 for around £5k and use the rest for insurance or the laguna coupe for around £7-8k I had a laguna coupe and it gets lots of interest looks wise. Did you find the Laguna reliable ?. " totally it was company car and never let me down and did a lot of miles but always serviced properly etc | |||
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"budget wise hmm if buying cash maybe £6 to 8k stretch. If finance deal then maybe something around the value of £12/15k " 6-8k you would get a cracking car for that, and as for what cars are best or what cars to stay clear of, in my opinion keep away from French, fords or Nissan, | |||
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"None of you have any taste whatsoever... Alfa 159 JTDm. Ignore the fools that tell you they break down - they're just as reliable as anything out there. Ignore the fools that say you'll have electrical problems - they switched to Bosch years ago and they're as good as anything out there. Ignore the fools who say they rust - Alfa were the first car company to use galvanised metals. With your budget you'll get a late model 159 with low miles and every gardget there is. Or buy Japanese! Whatever you decide - DONT BUY FRENCH! Had a Peugeot company car and did 150000 miles over 3 years and never let me down Shame they didn't think to use galvanised on my old alfa sud ! lol" The Sud was the reason they started galvanizing their cars!... | |||
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"The new Peugeot and DS3 are nice aint they??" I loved my DS3 : great car Mine was an early 10 plate so had it quite early on I got rid when (like Minis) everyone seemed to want one | |||
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"The new Peugeot and DS3 are nice aint they??" Seriously - DONT BUY FRENCH! cheap metal and shocking electrics. They also depreciate like rocks sink in water. They're pretty cars, I won't argue that, but it'll swallow your wallet and then your soul. If you want something smaller then you might find a nice Alfa MiTo in your budget. Stonking little cars low VED and good on fuel. | |||
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"My cousin has a Mini S 2012 turbo isnt it? Great interior i love it especially lonely night drives lol not great on mpg though but work pays me for miles " Mines a 2002 model supercharged | |||
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"yeah im seeing a lot of ds3s now look top not sure how they run, interior, comfort? no one in my area has it so its cool lol hate it when everyone has same one after you lol" Gonna sound a bit daft but the thing that really pissed me off is they don't have a cup holder I had a 1.6 petrol (same engine as the mini i believe ? ) Mine was ex display so had leather interior, bluetooth, cd, mp3 player, rear park sensors etc Not sure what of that kit is standard. Comfort was fine. Petrol economy was ok too. Great around town, great on short journeys. Boot space fine for a car in its class. | |||
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"hmm also why do soo many cars either have free road tax or £30 for a year?? is it staying that way? " Emissions The more they emit, the more the tax A 1.6 DS3 is about £120 a year if i remember correctly | |||
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"ohhh when i mention gimmicks/gadgets its things like cup holders, arm rest, auto lights/wipers that are are a must lol" No cupholders but it did have 2 armrests Bit of a bugger to change gear if u had the driver 1 down tho | |||
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"hmm also why do soo many cars either have free road tax or £30 for a year?? is it staying that way? Emissions The more they emit, the more the tax A 1.6 DS3 is about £120 a year if i remember correctly" The MiTo is £30. | |||
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"Mito looks sexy well on google images it does lol searching on autotrader at moment. soo many overly priced cars on it as well lol" Look at a black one.... ...thank me later. | |||
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"hmm some are taxed £30 some the £130 :/ you had one yourself? iv always heard avoid the alfa plus hard to get spare parts if needed :/" Mate, I've driven nothing but Alfa Romeo for the past ten years (GTV 2.0, GTV 3.0, 156 2.5, 156 JTS and currently a GT Blackline). Spare parts aren't an issue, there a loads of specialists and servicing costs are the same as pretty much all cars these days (just avoid Alfa dealers!). As for reliability, I've never had a single breakdown. Service them properly and they'll last for years... | |||
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"hmm Giulietta 2.0 JTDM-2 140 Lusso 5dr any good? similar price " Yup, stonking engine (which is why Saab and Vauxhall use it too). Only thing to watch out for is the EGR valve and DPF getting clogged, but that goes for ALL modern diesels. | |||
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"We had a MiTo for a couple of years and loved it! It was very reliable. Quite quick when we wanted it to be OR it could be economical ! (Never both! Lol) The 1.4 multiair engines is great! Don't think a diesel Alfa is acceptable. Don't get one ! lol " They're definitely more than acceptable. I'm a member of the owners club and believe me there's more diesels than petrols at the minute (including mine). You want 300ftlbs+ of torque and 60mpg? Buy the diesel. The sexiest noise comes from the V6 "Bella" engines though but 22mpg can get expensive. | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol" If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF). | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF)." . Some petrol cars with stop start technology are very economical now and maintenance costs in the long term are cheaper that diesel. | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF).. Some petrol cars with stop start technology are very economical now and maintenance costs in the long term are cheaper that diesel. " I'd argue that the stop start technology is a terrible idea if you're driving in a heavily congested town. Great for the environment, granted, but terrible for the car for lots of reasons, leading to higher servicing costs and reliability issues (like many so called environmental innovations they sacrifice reliability to appear green and are deeply flawed if you understand how an internal combustion engine works). | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF).. Some petrol cars with stop start technology are very economical now and maintenance costs in the long term are cheaper that diesel. I'd argue that the stop start technology is a terrible idea if you're driving in a heavily congested town. Great for the environment, granted, but terrible for the car for lots of reasons, leading to higher servicing costs and reliability issues (like many so called environmental innovations they sacrifice reliability to appear green and are deeply flawed if you understand how an internal combustion engine works)." Added to which, as a driver, it pisses me off | |||
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"why dont you just sell me something lol plus that way if you have me off all the fabbers will hunt you down aha" Maybe best to go to a few dealers , have a few test drives and form your own opinion. How long do you intend keeping your car for ?. | |||
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"why dont you just sell me something lol plus that way if you have me off all the fabbers will hunt you down aha" Because I'm not a car dealer! I am, however a motoring enthusiast and pretty handy at fixing (and cleaning) them. | |||
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"Get a second hand skoda octavia vrs....looks amazing goes like feck n a few toys onboard ohh and wont let you down ...or a new one if your budget allows " | |||
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"Fuck it just buy a glanza I'm getting one next year " Rapid little buggers.... | |||
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"Fuck it just buy a glanza I'm getting one next year Rapid little buggers.... " JAP POWA !! all from a likkle 1.3 | |||
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"Fuck it just buy a glanza I'm getting one next year Rapid little buggers.... JAP POWA !! all from a likkle 1.3 " I've seen them pushing 400bhp at nearly 2bar of boost... | |||
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"Buy something Japanese !! " This is actually very sensible advice. VW's are popular, but diesels are rather heavy going on oil (my Dad used to work for Ford Motor Company and infirms me that the first Galaxy - basically a rebadged VW Sharan had major warranty issues on Diesel models as Ford customers weren't happy with excessive oil consumption - as it was not sonething they had previously been used to with Ford Diesels) German motors tend to be over priced and over engineered. The Japanese just have a completely different approach - they build the thing properley in the first place! | |||
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"Whats the lusso like??" Lusso is just a trim level, leather and a few goodies. It's no faster or sportier (although on the older cars like 156 &147 they were 25mm lower). The sportier models are the Cloverleaf's. Best advice is to pick a trim level and performance package that suits your needs best. The interiors are all made by Momo and the audio is either Blaupunkt or Bose, the Bose is 1000w, mine has 12 speakers and a sub | |||
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"Buy something Japanese !! This is actually very sensible advice. VW's are popular, but diesels are rather heavy going on oil (my Dad used to work for Ford Motor Company and infirms me that the first Galaxy - basically a rebadged VW Sharan had major warranty issues on Diesel models as Ford customers weren't happy with excessive oil consumption - as it was not sonething they had previously been used to with Ford Diesels) German motors tend to be over priced and over engineered. The Japanese just have a completely different approach - they build the thing properley in the first place!" The reason Ford had so much trouble with many of their diesel engines is because they're actually Peugeot units. Ford sued them because of the major reliability issues and numerous warranty claims. | |||
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"I keep hearing Japanese well which cars then??? lol" Depends what your wanting from the car. Small and fast - Toyota glanza, nissan pulsar, mitsubishi black hawk colt, EP3 civic type R Medium size and fast , Nissan Juke NISMO, FN2 civic type R, Toyota celica 190 And then there's the subaru's, evo's, supras and skylines Also a huge range of normal, economical cars. Personally I've got a 1.8 civic TI which is naturally aspirated at 140bhp and will outdo it's German rivals most of which have bigger engines and a turbo - all for £10,000 cheaper ?? | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF).. Some petrol cars with stop start technology are very economical now and maintenance costs in the long term are cheaper that diesel. I'd argue that the stop start technology is a terrible idea if you're driving in a heavily congested town. Great for the environment, granted, but terrible for the car for lots of reasons, leading to higher servicing costs and reliability issues (like many so called environmental innovations they sacrifice reliability to appear green and are deeply flawed if you understand how an internal combustion engine works)." My stop start never gets a chance to stop start! Leave it in gear with your foot on the clutch! Simples!!! Roll on July when (if I've not been made redundant! Lol) I get to choose a new company car! A | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF).. Some petrol cars with stop start technology are very economical now and maintenance costs in the long term are cheaper that diesel. I'd argue that the stop start technology is a terrible idea if you're driving in a heavily congested town. Great for the environment, granted, but terrible for the car for lots of reasons, leading to higher servicing costs and reliability issues (like many so called environmental innovations they sacrifice reliability to appear green and are deeply flawed if you understand how an internal combustion engine works). My stop start never gets a chance to stop start! Leave it in gear with your foot on the clutch! Simples!!! Roll on July when (if I've not been made redundant! Lol) I get to choose a new company car! A" My stop start doesn't work because the sound system draws that much power | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF).. Some petrol cars with stop start technology are very economical now and maintenance costs in the long term are cheaper that diesel. I'd argue that the stop start technology is a terrible idea if you're driving in a heavily congested town. Great for the environment, granted, but terrible for the car for lots of reasons, leading to higher servicing costs and reliability issues (like many so called environmental innovations they sacrifice reliability to appear green and are deeply flawed if you understand how an internal combustion engine works). My stop start never gets a chance to stop start! Leave it in gear with your foot on the clutch! Simples!!! Roll on July when (if I've not been made redundant! Lol) I get to choose a new company car! A My stop start doesn't work because the sound system draws that much power " Ha! Just had a peek on auto trader - just one Glanza V for sale nationally but looks quite interesting and £5.5k ! Off to check last nights lotto ticket! A | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF).. Some petrol cars with stop start technology are very economical now and maintenance costs in the long term are cheaper that diesel. I'd argue that the stop start technology is a terrible idea if you're driving in a heavily congested town. Great for the environment, granted, but terrible for the car for lots of reasons, leading to higher servicing costs and reliability issues (like many so called environmental innovations they sacrifice reliability to appear green and are deeply flawed if you understand how an internal combustion engine works). My stop start never gets a chance to stop start! Leave it in gear with your foot on the clutch! Simples!!! Roll on July when (if I've not been made redundant! Lol) I get to choose a new company car! A My stop start doesn't work because the sound system draws that much power " Stop/start can be disabled on most cars if you read the manual or you know someone with the correct software | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF).. Some petrol cars with stop start technology are very economical now and maintenance costs in the long term are cheaper that diesel. I'd argue that the stop start technology is a terrible idea if you're driving in a heavily congested town. Great for the environment, granted, but terrible for the car for lots of reasons, leading to higher servicing costs and reliability issues (like many so called environmental innovations they sacrifice reliability to appear green and are deeply flawed if you understand how an internal combustion engine works). My stop start never gets a chance to stop start! Leave it in gear with your foot on the clutch! Simples!!! Roll on July when (if I've not been made redundant! Lol) I get to choose a new company car! A My stop start doesn't work because the sound system draws that much power Ha! Just had a peek on auto trader - just one Glanza V for sale nationally but looks quite interesting and £5.5k ! Off to check last nights lotto ticket! A" I had to look too Put me in mind of a pimped up Toyota Starlet that you might get your Friday night take out delivered in | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF).. Some petrol cars with stop start technology are very economical now and maintenance costs in the long term are cheaper that diesel. I'd argue that the stop start technology is a terrible idea if you're driving in a heavily congested town. Great for the environment, granted, but terrible for the car for lots of reasons, leading to higher servicing costs and reliability issues (like many so called environmental innovations they sacrifice reliability to appear green and are deeply flawed if you understand how an internal combustion engine works). My stop start never gets a chance to stop start! Leave it in gear with your foot on the clutch! Simples!!! Roll on July when (if I've not been made redundant! Lol) I get to choose a new company car! A My stop start doesn't work because the sound system draws that much power Ha! Just had a peek on auto trader - just one Glanza V for sale nationally but looks quite interesting and £5.5k ! Off to check last nights lotto ticket! A I had to look too Put me in mind of a pimped up Toyota Starlet that you might get your Friday night take out delivered in " That's because it is....technically. | |||
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"The reason Ford had so much trouble with many of their diesel engines is because they're actually Peugeot units. Ford sued them because of the major reliability issues and numerous warranty claims." Really wish people would read a post properly before making a comment. I did not say that Ford had problems with Diesel engines in general. I stated that they had warranty issues on Diesel Galaxy's. These were VW units - The Galaxy was produced by VW. Early Ford Diesel's were indeed Peugeot items, but Ford have been producing their own units for many years. My father spent much of his career in quality control roles within the organisation. Think his last role before retirement was heading up the team looking after Fiesta based vehicles | |||
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"hmm now this is the problem you get ppl say get diesel if gonna cover miles and lasts long then those who say dont bother lol If you're doing plenty of miles then the diesel will benefit you (I do around 50 a day). If you're driving mostly around town or just a few miles then you want a small petrol engine. Short journeys kill diesel engines, they need a good run to clean out the environmental filters (EGR valve and DPF).. Some petrol cars with stop start technology are very economical now and maintenance costs in the long term are cheaper that diesel. I'd argue that the stop start technology is a terrible idea if you're driving in a heavily congested town. Great for the environment, granted, but terrible for the car for lots of reasons, leading to higher servicing costs and reliability issues (like many so called environmental innovations they sacrifice reliability to appear green and are deeply flawed if you understand how an internal combustion engine works). My stop start never gets a chance to stop start! Leave it in gear with your foot on the clutch! Simples!!! Roll on July when (if I've not been made redundant! Lol) I get to choose a new company car! A My stop start doesn't work because the sound system draws that much power Ha! Just had a peek on auto trader - just one Glanza V for sale nationally but looks quite interesting and £5.5k ! Off to check last nights lotto ticket! A I had to look too Put me in mind of a pimped up Toyota Starlet that you might get your Friday night take out delivered in That's because it is....technically." Would be the Fastest takeaway delivery car out there lol I've spoken to a guy who had a glanza that would do the quater mile in 13 seconds. That is on par with the audi RS range, all from a little 10 year old 1.3 rice rocket | |||
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"I know diesels are good for mpg but they are heavy and don't handle quite as well, but my main problem with diesel is the sound. They are much better these days but it's still not a nice sound. It's a compromise and on certain makes of car it's just not right. It's a shame Alfa even make diesels. But I agree that in many ways it's the sensible option. Id never choose to own a diesel car. Never enjoyed driving one yet." I took a nice Audi R8 V10 Diesel Spyder round a track once! Sounded lovely and didn't feel heavy at all! A | |||
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"I know diesels are good for mpg but they are heavy and don't handle quite as well, but my main problem with diesel is the sound. They are much better these days but it's still not a nice sound. It's a compromise and on certain makes of car it's just not right. It's a shame Alfa even make diesels. But I agree that in many ways it's the sensible option. Id never choose to own a diesel car. Never enjoyed driving one yet. I took a nice Audi R8 V10 Diesel Spyder round a track once! Sounded lovely and didn't feel heavy at all! A" | |||
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" I know diesels are good for mpg but they are heavy and don't handle quite as well, but my main problem with diesel is the sound. They are much better these days but it's still not a nice sound. It's a compromise and on certain makes of car it's just not right. It's a shame Alfa even make diesels. But I agree that in many ways it's the sensible option. Id never choose to own a diesel car. Never enjoyed driving one yet. I took a nice Audi R8 V10 Diesel Spyder round a track once! Sounded lovely and didn't feel heavy at all! A Lol nice! That would 'top trump' all the cars in the OPs budget! But compared directly to it's peers it's the same compromises that I'm talking about. It's heavier and slower in corners doesn't sound as nice as petrol but does more mpg. Envious experience you've had though! " I used to have a 120d M Sport. Drove like a go kart (was shit in the wet and ice, but hey!) was great in corners and had good torque. There are some great little diesels out there now that are easily on par with petrol equivalents. A | |||
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