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By *ust Rachel OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I read an article that a school in Denmark has the parents complaining about a female teacher, she is heavily tattooed arms, legs, neck and chest.

The parents are saying they don't want this person to teach their children, due to her looks.

I was curious what some people on here thought about this?

As it only takes one person to complain against how someone looks for others to follow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It could be a useful way for the school to teach the children about tolerance and acceptance of others who may look different or choose to dress differently. Hopefully the school will approach the situation in a positive way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a nonsense

What has her 'look' got to do with her ability to teach ?

Pure snobbery & idealism

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean

What if her tats have adult content ?

Sex, Drugs, Devil Worship ? Profanities ? Anti Establishment Slogans ?

What then ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"It's a nonsense

What has her 'look' got to do with her ability to teach ?

Pure snobbery & idealism "

Snobber and idealism or safeguarding ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What if her tats have adult content ?

Sex, Drugs, Devil Worship ? Profanities ? Anti Establishment Slogans ?

What then ?"

In that instance she should keep them covered at work. In the same way it wouldn't be appropriate, in my view, to dress in clothes or wear jewellery that _xpressed those themes.

If it's flowers or dolphins or something then I don't see how young minds could be corrupted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a nonsense

What has her 'look' got to do with her ability to teach ?

Pure snobbery & idealism

Snobber and idealism or safeguarding ?"

Against what ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"What if her tats have adult content ?

Sex, Drugs, Devil Worship ? Profanities ? Anti Establishment Slogans ?

What then ?

In that instance she should keep them covered at work. In the same way it wouldn't be appropriate, in my view, to dress in clothes or wear jewellery that _xpressed those themes.

If it's flowers or dolphins or something then I don't see how young minds could be corrupted."

Me neither especially as they see it on a day to day basis in the street or on t.v.

Tats still aren't accepted in many places that require a professional front , not just schools.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What if her tats have adult content ?

Sex, Drugs, Devil Worship ? Profanities ? Anti Establishment Slogans ?

What then ?

In that instance she should keep them covered at work. In the same way it wouldn't be appropriate, in my view, to dress in clothes or wear jewellery that _xpressed those themes.

If it's flowers or dolphins or something then I don't see how young minds could be corrupted.

Me neither especially as they see it on a day to day basis in the street or on t.v.

Tats still aren't accepted in many places that require a professional front , not just schools. "

Absolutely, they wouldn't be in my job, but I'm wondering if it's time for that to change.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"It could be a useful way for the school to teach the children about tolerance and acceptance of others who may look different or choose to dress differently. Hopefully the school will approach the situation in a positive way. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just let her teach, judge her by her work, not appearance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What if her tats have adult content ?

Sex, Drugs, Devil Worship ? Profanities ? Anti Establishment Slogans ?

What then ?"

A quick Google search shows her tattoos fail to mention

. Scenes of intercourse

. Anyone shooting up heroin

. An image of satan

And no where on her body does it say fuck the system.

judge her teaching ability not the tattoos

My guess is that personally you don't like tattoos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What if her tats have adult content ?

Sex, Drugs, Devil Worship ? Profanities ? Anti Establishment Slogans ?

What then ?

A quick Google search shows her tattoos fail to mention

. Scenes of intercourse

. Anyone shooting up heroin

. An image of satan

And no where on her body does it say fuck the system.

judge her teaching ability not the tattoos

My guess is that personally you don't like tattoos

"

Wrong, I do like tattoos.

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By *ittykate84Woman
over a year ago

CHESTER

Im tattooed and honestly wouldnt have them where they can be seen when at work! Small children are impressionable and all it takes is one to go have an underage tattoo because of the 'cool' teacher and it been done somewhere less than reputable!

I think children should be guarded from the adult word and stay kids for as long as possible and have some innocence like we used to! But thats my opinion and im sure many will disagree and you know what im ok with that!

Wouldnt it be boring if we all agreed with each other

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"I read an article that a school in Denmark has the parents complaining about a female teacher, she is heavily tattooed arms, legs, neck and chest.

The parents are saying they don't want this person to teach their children, due to her looks.

I was curious what some people on here thought about this?

As it only takes one person to complain against how someone looks for others to follow."
. Whilst the tattoos make no difference to anyone's ability to teach , many people make judgements based on appearance . Tattoos should only be on parts of the body where they can be hidden if necessary. If I went for a job interview with visible tattoos , I would expect to be turned down. As it is , I have none .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It could be a useful way for the school to teach the children about tolerance and acceptance of others who may look different or choose to dress differently. Hopefully the school will approach the situation in a positive way. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a nonsense

What has her 'look' got to do with her ability to teach ?

Pure snobbery & idealism "
agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women."

Why not ?

And why especially women ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women.

Why not ?

And why especially women ?"

It doesn't set a good example, some people think it looks common.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women.

Why not ?

And why especially women ?

It doesn't set a good example, some people think it looks common."

And you are evidently one of them

To me, a persons ability to carry out their job well is far more important than their look

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By *eamperveCouple
over a year ago

South West


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women."

I thought you were joking and actually laughed out loud....then read down and realised you're not!!!

But what you just said is hilarious!

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women.

Why not ?

And why especially women ?

It doesn't set a good example, some people think it looks common.

And you are evidently one of them

To me, a persons ability to carry out their job well is far more important than their look"
. Most people have standards of presentation that they expect to be adhered to. Whilst it has no impact on the ability to do the job, a significant number of people regard teachers having tatooes as being completely unacceptable . How many Doctors are heavily tatooed ?.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I would like to read the entire story but I can't find it anywhere.

Are the tattoos the only reason they're complaining? What are the tattoos of? Are they symbolic in any way and if so of what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women.

Why not ?

And why especially women ?

It doesn't set a good example, some people think it looks common.

And you are evidently one of them

To me, a persons ability to carry out their job well is far more important than their look. Most people have standards of presentation that they expect to be adhered to. Whilst it has no impact on the ability to do the job, a significant number of people regard teachers having tatooes as being completely unacceptable . How many Doctors are heavily tatooed ?. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A chap who used to give out communion at a church I used to attend had a naked women tattooed on his forearm.

The priest didn't seem to mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women.

Why not ?

And why especially women ?

It doesn't set a good example, some people think it looks common.

And you are evidently one of them

To me, a persons ability to carry out their job well is far more important than their look. Most people have standards of presentation that they expect to be adhered to. Whilst it has no impact on the ability to do the job, a significant number of people regard teachers having tatooes as being completely unacceptable . How many Doctors are heavily tatooed ?. "

Not enough

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women.

Why not ?

And why especially women ?

It doesn't set a good example, some people think it looks common.

And you are evidently one of them

To me, a persons ability to carry out their job well is far more important than their look. Most people have standards of presentation that they expect to be adhered to. Whilst it has no impact on the ability to do the job, a significant number of people regard teachers having tatooes as being completely unacceptable . How many Doctors are heavily tatooed ?. "

But that isn't a static situation, more and more people have ink and it must mean that more and more people will enter these professions who are tattooed. People like my daughter, her boyfriend and many of their contempories won't bat an eyelid at a heavily tattooed doctor, teacher, barrister etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A chap who used to give out communion at a church I used to attend had a naked women tattooed on his forearm.

The priest didn't seem to mind. "

My priest would have ran him out of the church. Tattoos are a venal sin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women.

Why not ?

And why especially women ?

It doesn't set a good example, some people think it looks common.

And you are evidently one of them

To me, a persons ability to carry out their job well is far more important than their look. Most people have standards of presentation that they expect to be adhered to. Whilst it has no impact on the ability to do the job, a significant number of people regard teachers having tatooes as being completely unacceptable . How many Doctors are heavily tatooed ?.

But that isn't a static situation, more and more people have ink and it must mean that more and more people will enter these professions who are tattooed. People like my daughter, her boyfriend and many of their contempories won't bat an eyelid at a heavily tattooed doctor, teacher, barrister etc"

I guess not all young people are like your daughter etc etc.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women.

Why not ?

And why especially women ?

It doesn't set a good example, some people think it looks common.

And you are evidently one of them

To me, a persons ability to carry out their job well is far more important than their look. Most people have standards of presentation that they expect to be adhered to. Whilst it has no impact on the ability to do the job, a significant number of people regard teachers having tatooes as being completely unacceptable . How many Doctors are heavily tatooed ?.

But that isn't a static situation, more and more people have ink and it must mean that more and more people will enter these professions who are tattooed. People like my daughter, her boyfriend and many of their contempories won't bat an eyelid at a heavily tattooed doctor, teacher, barrister etc

I guess not all young people are like your daughter etc etc."

No need to guess, they aren't all as tolerant, broad minded and accepting of other people's choices as my daughter and her friends, you're absolutely right.

My mum would be horrified and probably slightly afraid of a doctor with heavily tattooed skin but regardless of whether you agree or not it is likely that a generation that views tattoos as almost the norm wont be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my son had a couple done when he was a teenager only they can be covered up easily, he thinks it was a mistake now hes older though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love tattooes and plan to be covered but it doesn't affect my ability to do my job and do it well.

if I needed to cover my tattoos for a job I would buy the specialist make up off line that covers tattoos.

and with some of things they allow to be legal in Denmark they are rich talking about tattoos on a teacher!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read an article that a school in Denmark has the parents complaining about a female teacher, she is heavily tattooed arms, legs, neck and chest.

The parents are saying they don't want this person to teach their children, due to her looks.

I was curious what some people on here thought about this?

As it only takes one person to complain against how someone looks for others to follow.. Whilst the tattoos make no difference to anyone's ability to teach , many people make judgements based on appearance . Tattoos should only be on parts of the body where they can be hidden if necessary. If I went for a job interview with visible tattoos , I would expect to be turned down. As it is , I have none ."

I'm a teacher and my tattoos are hidden, as with many other colleagues its a matter of projecting a professional appearance. However on a residential trip where more relaxed clothing was acceptable they were visible to the children and no one cared at all.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It has only recently been allowed for our military to have some visible tatts, we're that backwards.

I'm for accepting others on how they look and it's the person and their behavior that's most important.

It's good for those kids to meet with different others and not Stepford Wives teachers.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Im tattooed and honestly wouldnt have them where they can be seen when at work! Small children are impressionable and all it takes is one to go have an underage tattoo because of the 'cool' teacher and it been done somewhere less than reputable!

I think children should be guarded from the adult word and stay kids for as long as possible and have some innocence like we used to! But thats my opinion and im sure many will disagree and you know what im ok with that!

Wouldnt it be boring if we all agreed with each other "

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

I work with a guy. He is fantastic at his job, he is the ideal candidate for a very senior managerial position. He's been told that there's no way the company can promote him to that position.

The reason given is he has tattoo's on his neck that he cannot cover and the company does not want that 'image' representing them to other companies and customers.

I have tattoo's. The reality is that people do get judged by them and it does effect what jobs may or may not be open to you in the future.

I would hate for my son or daughter to go out and get tattoo's on their neck or somewhere they couldn't cover because 'their old teacher had them like that'.

Tattoo's are a lifetime commitment and not something that should be decided or influenced as a child. I don't agree with teachers having visible tattoo's because I don't want my children influenced. I want them to make their own, individual choice when they are old enough to make it in an educated considered way so as not to effect the rest of their life.

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By *ust Rachel OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I did read the original piece and it doesn't mention the content of her tattooes, just they are one show on her arms, legs, chest and arms.

I wondered if this could spark a reintroduction of the 'if you have tattooes then no job' situation.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

There was a story like this a couple of weeks ago about a female teacher in the UK.

She turned up at her first day at work to be told to go home and get changed so her tattoos weren't visible...

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By *eonard21Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Why should an art form on someone's body be seen as wrong. I've got a lot of tattoos religious ones that are small and big tattoos on my leg. and other things, And in a previous job that told me to cover up to not offend other religions, it's outrageous Muslims and other faiths can were full dress preach about there faith. And I can't have a 7 inch tattoo on show is stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the parents have every right to be concerned, to complain, and if needs be have the teacher removed.

Whatever the circumstances, the three way relationship between school, children and parents is extremely important to the ultimate outcome. If that is broken, and it sounds to be in this example, then something should give.

Maybe all the kids and parents should move school, town or country?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women."
why not and why especially women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a time when you couldn't get into the emergency services with visible tattoos - but now, with new short sleeved uniforms, this is not the case!

If it's ok for the Police and Fire Service, then why not for Teachers?

Although that's the UK - not sure how it is elsewhere.

But, overall, it should be an issue of fairness and equality, not to mention tolerance and acceptance! We really don't think that anyone in this lifestyle is in the position to judge other people on their choices.

But this's just one couple's opinion, and if you don't agree . . . .f**k you!

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

I have a few tattoos but they can be covered up if in A situation when tattoos ain't appropriate.. I think teachers should cover tarts up

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By *ummersun99Woman
over a year ago

North Yorkshire by the Sea


"I work with a guy. He is fantastic at his job, he is the ideal candidate for a very senior managerial position. He's been told that there's no way the company can promote him to that position.

The reason given is he has tattoo's on his neck that he cannot cover and the company does not want that 'image' representing them to other companies and customers.

I have tattoo's. The reality is that people do get judged by them and it does effect what jobs may or may not be open to you in the future.

I would hate for my son or daughter to go out and get tattoo's on their neck or somewhere they couldn't cover because 'their old teacher had them like that'.

Tattoo's are a lifetime commitment and not something that should be decided or influenced as a child. I don't agree with teachers having visible tattoo's because I don't want my children influenced. I want them to make their own, individual choice when they are old enough to make it in an educated considered way so as not to effect the rest of their life."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my daughter wants to be an english teacher - she has piercings and tattoos- quite a lot of each - but has been very mindful that she can cover them if she wants to - ah is very aware that some people still have that standard of judgement about tatts

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By *tressfreeMan
over a year ago

Towcester

Rather have good tattooed teachers than bad without!

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"

I would hate for my son or daughter to go out and get tattoo's on their neck or somewhere they couldn't cover because 'their old teacher had them like that'.

Tattoo's are a lifetime commitment and not something that should be decided or influenced as a child. I don't agree with teachers having visible tattoo's because I don't want my children influenced. I want them to make their own, individual choice when they are old enough to make it in an educated considered way so as not to effect the rest of their life."

You don't want your children influenced but by wanting to exclude teachers having visible tattoos you are already imposing an influence on their attitudes to tattoos.

In societies where tattoos are the norm it is the people who do not carry tattoos that are ostracised.

One may as well say “I don’t want my children taught by a gay teacher in case they are influenced by them.” Such bigoted attitudes have no place in modern society.

Parents should welcome the chance for there children to be taught by those who do not follow conventional rules of society as long as the teacher is qualified.

It gives the child a broader outlook on life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women.

Why not ?

And why especially women ?

It doesn't set a good example, some people think it looks common.

And you are evidently one of themu

To me, a persons ability to carry out their job well is far more important than their look. Most people have standards of presentation that they expect to be adhered to. Whilst it has no impact on the ability to do the job, a significant number of people regard teachers having tatooes as being completely unacceptable . How many Doctors are heavily tatooed ?. "

I know several doctors who are heavily tattooed, no one has ever refused treatment from them either..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So the moral of this story is that tattoos on influential people in children's lives are seen as bad. Does that mean that every parent who has a tattoo that can be seen by said child should have th taken away from them ad put into custody????

This is a total crock of shit!!!! Although I inagine the press have hyped it beyond it up to get media attention as they always do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a few tattoos and I know that on the whole . . I have to cover them. . I was actually reported with regards to them by an agency member of staff. . because he thought they were inappropriate and unprofessional.

Thankfully . . my bosses. . realised that on the whole I don't go out of my way to show them off and my work is certainly not affected by them.

My children see mine with great regularity and it certainly will not influence them. . how do I know, because as a parent when they ask questions I answer them honestly. . and they are not sure they'd like the pain. . I have even taken them to conventions. I want them to learn and understand we are unique and what is inside is more important than what's on display. .

Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a few tattoos and I know that on the whole . . I have to cover them. . I was actually reported with regards to them by an agency member of staff. . because he thought they were inappropriate and unprofessional.

Thankfully . . my bosses. . realised that he was a trouble causing twat and binned him off "

That's how I was hoping ur post would read

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Rather have good tattooed teachers than bad without! "

I think this might be the first ever post of yours that I agree with lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a few tattoos and I know that on the whole . . I have to cover them. . I was actually reported with regards to them by an agency member of staff. . because he thought they were inappropriate and unprofessional.

Thankfully . . my bosses. . realised that he was a trouble causing twat and binned him off

That's how I was hoping ur post would read "

Ohhh he didn't stay in the job. . xxx I was his manager. . xx

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By *preadeagleCouple
over a year ago

hull


"It could be a useful way for the school to teach the children about tolerance and acceptance of others who may look different or choose to dress differently. Hopefully the school will approach the situation in a positive way. "

I work in a secondary school and I agree we are not in the dark ages people. Sorry but I deal with children with behaviour issues that are unacceptable in modern society shall we lock them away because their not the "norm". I did expect a more tolerant especially on a liberated site like this !

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Whilst tattoos are becoming more common place and good artists are challenging the prison/thug/sailor stereotype the truth of the matter is a lot of companies and organisations still expect certain standards of dress for certain positions.

I worked in a call centre with no customer facing duties yet all visible tattoos or piercings other than ears or nose had to be covered otherwise you were sent home or disciplined. It was a bitch to manage!

If you choose to have tattoos you have to accept that not everyone will celebrate your individuality as much as you do.

Of course having tattoos has no bearing on how someone does their job. I have 5 and I'm fucking awesome at my job lol but tattoos come with certain preconceptions and while these preconceptions are bring challenged people should,ve prepared for a bumpy ride.

It doesn't matter if a teacher has tattoos or not. When I was at school none of my teachers had visible tattoos, non of my family at that time had tattoos but we still went round drawing on our arms pretending we had them. We still loved getting the transfers that you put on your arms that looked like tattoos etc

Bit of a ramble one there but essentially your choice to tattoo, challenge social norms etc but dont be surprised if others dont budge. Kids will be fascinated by tattoos even if they have no exposure to them by people in authority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is an opportunity cost with all decisions

People need to consider the repercussions of their actions.

One of these is the possibility that having visible tattoos or piercings may affect your job prospects

The same as heavy drinking or substance abuse may mean you may be sacked from your job if you are tested and found to be under the influence.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but don't bitch if others opinions differ with yours

Freedom of opinion is not a right of entitlement to force it on others in an effort to change theirs.

This goes for all lifestyle choices and not just body art

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It could be a useful way for the school to teach the children about tolerance and acceptance of others who may look different or choose to dress differently. Hopefully the school will approach the situation in a positive way.

I work in a secondary school and I agree we are not in the dark ages people. Sorry but I deal with children with behaviour issues that are unacceptable in modern society shall we lock them away because their not the "norm". I did expect a more tolerant especially on a liberated site like this !"

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"It could be a useful way for the school to teach the children about tolerance and acceptance of others who may look different or choose to dress differently. Hopefully the school will approach the situation in a positive way.

I work in a secondary school and I agree we are not in the dark ages people. Sorry but I deal with children with behaviour issues that are unacceptable in modern society shall we lock them away because their not the "norm". I did expect a more tolerant especially on a liberated site like this !"

Why should we be more tolerant just because we like sex? I've never understood this statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if she has 666 tattooed on her forhead and 'all coppers are bastards' and 'fuck the establishment' all over her hands and arms then I could understand..but if they are just normal tatts then I think it is just another case of modern political correctness gone too far again

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"It could be a useful way for the school to teach the children about tolerance and acceptance of others who may look different or choose to dress differently. Hopefully the school will approach the situation in a positive way.

I work in a secondary school and I agree we are not in the dark ages people. Sorry but I deal with children with behaviour issues that are unacceptable in modern society shall we lock them away because their not the "norm". I did expect a more tolerant especially on a liberated site like this !

Why should we be more tolerant just because we like sex? I've never understood this statement "

Nor me and having read the forums I am no nearer understanding or believing it to be true

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I have a few tattoos and I know that on the whole . . I have to cover them. . I was actually reported with regards to them by an agency member of staff. . because he thought they were inappropriate and unprofessional.

Thankfully . . my bosses. . realised that on the whole I don't go out of my way to show them off and my work is certainly not affected by them.

My children see mine with great regularity and it certainly will not influence them. . how do I know, because as a parent when they ask questions I answer them honestly. . and they are not sure they'd like the pain. . I have even taken them to conventions. I want them to learn and understand we are unique and what is inside is more important than what's on display. .

Xx"

How is it not influencing them? You are influencing them by telling them the truth, it's a good and positive influence but an influence all the same.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"

I would hate for my son or daughter to go out and get tattoo's on their neck or somewhere they couldn't cover because 'their old teacher had them like that'.

Tattoo's are a lifetime commitment and not something that should be decided or influenced as a child. I don't agree with teachers having visible tattoo's because I don't want my children influenced. I want them to make their own, individual choice when they are old enough to make it in an educated considered way so as not to effect the rest of their life.

"

You say you don't want your children influenced, is that just in the matter of tattoos, or do you wish their teachers to have no influence over them at all? What about if they see a teacher smoking or drinking, a gay or lesbian teacher? Do you feel that a teachers influence is so strong that your children will get tattoos even if you've spoken to them and explained the pitfalls?

In my experience the last people who influenced our kids were their teachers, it was their peers and their upbringing that informed their opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's dependant on the tattoo and where it is as well as the age of the kids I'm not sure I'd be happy with my 5 yr old being taught by a woman with bitch on her boobs (I'd smile all the way though parents evening though) but wouldn't be bothered if my 14yr old was was being taught by a lass with a butterfly on her ankle kind of thing

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I think it's dependant on the tattoo and where it is as well as the age of the kids I'm not sure I'd be happy with my 5 yr old being taught by a woman with bitch on her boobs (I'd smile all the way though parents evening though) but wouldn't be bothered if my 14yr old was was being taught by a lass with a butterfly on her ankle kind of thing "

blimey you know your kids teachers well if you know what tats they have on their breasts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well if it's on show you would look lol

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Well if it's on show you would look lol"

now that's some kind of school! Topless teachers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The school employed her for her teaching ability nothing else. it wouldn't bother me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"teachers shouldn't have tattoos especialy women."

Rather sweeping statement does that go for doctors,nurses etc etc as well

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By *lttattoocoupleCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"I read an article that a school in Denmark has the parents complaining about a female teacher, she is heavily tattooed arms, legs, neck and chest.

The parents are saying they don't want this person to teach their children, due to her looks.

I was curious what some people on here thought about this?

As it only takes one person to complain against how someone looks for others to follow."

I read this and it truley pisses me off when people who don't follow suit are finger pointed at.

We don't get taken seriously all because we don't look the same.

Times need to change, people need to stop discriminating ! We don't discriminate black people, Asian, or Indian people by the colour of their skin anymore so why should we when it comes to having art on your body, it's skin, it doesn't affect the way you work. I just don't understand why there is such a stigma in nowadays when most people have them.

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By *lttattoocoupleCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"

I would hate for my son or daughter to go out and get tattoo's on their neck or somewhere they couldn't cover because 'their old teacher had them like that'.

Tattoo's are a lifetime commitment and not something that should be decided or influenced as a child. I don't agree with teachers having visible tattoo's because I don't want my children influenced. I want them to make their own, individual choice when they are old enough to make it in an educated considered way so as not to effect the rest of their life.

You say you don't want your children influenced, is that just in the matter of tattoos, or do you wish their teachers to have no influence over them at all? What about if they see a teacher smoking or drinking, a gay or lesbian teacher? Do you feel that a teachers influence is so strong that your children will get tattoos even if you've spoken to them and explained the pitfalls?

In my experience the last people who influenced our kids were their teachers, it was their peers and their upbringing that informed their opinions."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Last time I looked, it wasn't against the law in *this* country.

Fortunately, there is not enough of a critical mass of snobbery and bigotry in the U.K. to make this an issue, though I am shocked at the superficiality of some people.

Id be more worried, if I had kids, if the teacher was a kiddie-fiddler than their fashion sense...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having ink is a modern day culture now days. Personally i think profesions should be more acceptance.

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By *astpoetMan
over a year ago

where the world takes me

The problem is that as with any of these things, racism, sexism, homophobia, intolerance to religion or foreigners, tattoos etc, it's normally the small minority of bigots that shout the loudest.

The truth is we're lucky to live in an incredibly accepting and open society where most people are judged on who they are as a person and nothing more.

I just wish the newspapers would mirror that stance of the majority a bit more, but i guess that that lack of sensationalism doesn't sell papers. Better instead to strike up fear of "the other" be they an immigrant, gay marriage or a person trying to do their job that happens to have tattoos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The problem is that as with any of these things, racism, sexism, homophobia, intolerance to religion or foreigners, tattoos etc, it's normally the small minority of bigots that shout the loudest.

The truth is we're lucky to live in an incredibly accepting and open society where most people are judged on who they are as a person and nothing more.

I just wish the newspapers would mirror that stance of the majority a bit more, but i guess that that lack of sensationalism doesn't sell papers. Better instead to strike up fear of "the other" be they an immigrant, gay marriage or a person trying to do their job that happens to have tattoos. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read an article that a school in Denmark has the parents complaining about a female teacher, she is heavily tattooed arms, legs, neck and chest.

The parents are saying they don't want this person to teach their children, due to her looks.

I was curious what some people on here thought about this?

As it only takes one person to complain against how someone looks for others to follow.

I read this and it truley pisses me off when people who don't follow suit are finger pointed at.

We don't get taken seriously all because we don't look the same.

Times need to change, people need to stop discriminating ! We don't discriminate black people, Asian, or Indian people by the colour of their skin anymore so why should we when it comes to having art on your body, it's skin, it doesn't affect the way you work. I just don't understand why there is such a stigma in nowadays when most people have them. "

People aren't born with tattoos though are they and no, most people don't have them.

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

I would hate for my son or daughter to go out and get tattoo's on their neck or somewhere they couldn't cover because 'their old teacher had them like that'.

Tattoo's are a lifetime commitment and not something that should be decided or influenced as a child. I don't agree with teachers having visible tattoo's because I don't want my children influenced. I want them to make their own, individual choice when they are old enough to make it in an educated considered way so as not to effect the rest of their life.

You don't want your children influenced but by wanting to exclude teachers having visible tattoos you are already imposing an influence on their attitudes to tattoos.

In societies where tattoos are the norm it is the people who do not carry tattoos that are ostracised.

One may as well say “I don’t want my children taught by a gay teacher in case they are influenced by them.” Such bigoted attitudes have no place in modern society.

Parents should welcome the chance for there children to be taught by those who do not follow conventional rules of society as long as the teacher is qualified.

It gives the child a broader outlook on life.

"

Well their teachers not having visible tattoo's would be counter balanced by my own tattoo's.

We don't live in a society where visible tattoo's are the norm unfortunately and I'd rather it not be my children's potential careers that are effected and risk having them be the ones that are ostracised.

And relating that choice to the same as saying 'I don't want a gay person to teach my children' is rediculous! Someone's sexuality is not a choice at all! Having a tattoo on somewhere like your neck and watching a potential career go down the toilet because of it is very much the individuals choice!

I really don't see how we can have a bigoted attitude regarding this subject when we both have tattoo's ourselves.

Tattoo's are a choice, you may choose to encourage your children (if you have them) to be the crusaders and endevour to change western societies attitudes towards visible tattoo's. We don't choose that path for our children. That does not makes us biggots. Just for clarity one of my children is taught by a gay teacher lol.

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

I would hate for my son or daughter to go out and get tattoo's on their neck or somewhere they couldn't cover because 'their old teacher had them like that'.

Tattoo's are a lifetime commitment and not something that should be decided or influenced as a child. I don't agree with teachers having visible tattoo's because I don't want my children influenced. I want them to make their own, individual choice when they are old enough to make it in an educated considered way so as not to effect the rest of their life.

You say you don't want your children influenced, is that just in the matter of tattoos, or do you wish their teachers to have no influence over them at all? What about if they see a teacher smoking or drinking, a gay or lesbian teacher? Do you feel that a teachers influence is so strong that your children will get tattoos even if you've spoken to them and explained the pitfalls?

In my experience the last people who influenced our kids were their teachers, it was their peers and their upbringing that informed their opinions."

Smoking won't effect their career prospects.

Drinking won't effect their career prospects. Though I can't say I'd be to pleased with a teacher turning up to be responsible for my children's welfare pissed. My tolerance for being different doesn't run that far.

One of my children is already taught by a gay teacher. No issue at all with that as already stated, sexualty is not a choice.

No I don't think that a teachers influence will be so strong that even if I talk to them and explains the pitfalls they will get them anyway. I would just rather not risk the potential career of my children. Once someone choose to have a tattoo they have it there that's it.

Are people actaully missing that I have tattoo's I don't dissagree with tattoo's at all. I just don't want an adult who chooses to openly display their tattoo's, responsible for my children's learning.

What are you going to do then? Write a list of what is and what isn't an exceptable tattoo?

the simple fact is I have watch a grown man who had a swallow below each ear and his name on the back of his neck refused an 80k a year job because of it. I would rather do everything I can to minimise the risk of that happening to my children. It's as simple as that.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"

I would hate for my son or daughter to go out and get tattoo's on their neck or somewhere they couldn't cover because 'their old teacher had them like that'.

Tattoo's are a lifetime commitment and not something that should be decided or influenced as a child. I don't agree with teachers having visible tattoo's because I don't want my children influenced. I want them to make their own, individual choice when they are old enough to make it in an educated considered way so as not to effect the rest of their life.

You say you don't want your children influenced, is that just in the matter of tattoos, or do you wish their teachers to have no influence over them at all? What about if they see a teacher smoking or drinking, a gay or lesbian teacher? Do you feel that a teachers influence is so strong that your children will get tattoos even if you've spoken to them and explained the pitfalls?

In my experience the last people who influenced our kids were their teachers, it was their peers and their upbringing that informed their opinions.

Smoking won't effect their career prospects.

Drinking won't effect their career prospects. Though I can't say I'd be to pleased with a teacher turning up to be responsible for my children's welfare pissed. My tolerance for being different doesn't run that far.

One of my children is already taught by a gay teacher. No issue at all with that as already stated, sexualty is not a choice.

No I don't think that a teachers influence will be so strong that even if I talk to them and explains the pitfalls they will get them anyway. I would just rather not risk the potential career of my children. Once someone choose to have a tattoo they have it there that's it.

Are people actaully missing that I have tattoo's I don't dissagree with tattoo's at all. I just don't want an adult who chooses to openly display their tattoo's, responsible for my children's learning.

What are you going to do then? Write a list of what is and what isn't an exceptable tattoo?

the simple fact is I have watch a grown man who had a swallow below each ear and his name on the back of his neck refused an 80k a year job because of it. I would rather do everything I can to minimise the risk of that happening to my children. It's as simple as that."

I was questioning why you thought a teacher would have an influence in the matter of tattoos really. Everything you say is perfectly understandable but to me, your reasons for not wanting a tattooed teacher for your children don't stand up. However we are all different and that's a good thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I would hate for my son or daughter to go out and get tattoo's on their neck or somewhere they couldn't cover because 'their old teacher had them like that'.

Tattoo's are a lifetime commitment and not something that should be decided or influenced as a child. I don't agree with teachers having visible tattoo's because I don't want my children influenced. I want them to make their own, individual choice when they are old enough to make it in an educated considered way so as not to effect the rest of their life.

You say you don't want your children influenced, is that just in the matter of tattoos, or do you wish their teachers to have no influence over them at all? What about if they see a teacher smoking or drinking, a gay or lesbian teacher? Do you feel that a teachers influence is so strong that your children will get tattoos even if you've spoken to them and explained the pitfalls?

In my experience the last people who influenced our kids were their teachers, it was their peers and their upbringing that informed their opinions.

Smoking won't effect their career prospects.

Drinking won't effect their career prospects. Though I can't say I'd be to pleased with a teacher turning up to be responsible for my children's welfare pissed. My tolerance for being different doesn't run that far.

One of my children is already taught by a gay teacher. No issue at all with that as already stated, sexualty is not a choice.

No I don't think that a teachers influence will be so strong that even if I talk to them and explains the pitfalls they will get them anyway. I would just rather not risk the potential career of my children. Once someone choose to have a tattoo they have it there that's it.

Are people actaully missing that I have tattoo's I don't dissagree with tattoo's at all. I just don't want an adult who chooses to openly display their tattoo's, responsible for my children's learning.

What are you going to do then? Write a list of what is and what isn't an exceptable tattoo?

the simple fact is I have watch a grown man who had a swallow below each ear and his name on the back of his neck refused an 80k a year job because of it. I would rather do everything I can to minimise the risk of that happening to my children. It's as simple as that."

If a person wants to have a tattoo on their neck or face, they will. If they are stupid enough to do it just because a teacher or a friend has one, that's their own stupid fault!

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

I have no issue with my children having a tattoo'd teacher atall. My issue is only with those tattoo's that cannot be covered. Face, neck, hands those type of tattoo's unfortunately do get judged and I would rather minimise any risk of my children making that choice. Of course if they do, there's not much I can do about it and they will have to tolerate the bigots of society giving some of the highly paid jobs available to others purely because of an individual choice. I don't think they effect the ability of the teacher atall.

However I do think they effect job prospects for the future be that right or wrong it is fact. I have seen it.

It's such a shame that the rest of the western society in the majority don't appreciate that we are all different.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I have no issue with my children having a tattoo'd teacher atall. My issue is only with those tattoo's that cannot be covered. Face, neck, hands those type of tattoo's unfortunately do get judged and I would rather minimise any risk of my children making that choice. Of course if they do, there's not much I can do about it and they will have to tolerate the bigots of society giving some of the highly paid jobs available to others purely because of an individual choice. I don't think they effect the ability of the teacher atall.

However I do think they effect job prospects for the future be that right or wrong it is fact. I have seen it.

It's such a shame that the rest of the western society in the majority don't appreciate that we are all different.

"

There are very few societies that do appreciate that, in fact I would say that it's at the heart of most societies to exclude those who are different.

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By *preadeagleCouple
over a year ago

hull


"It could be a useful way for the school to teach the children about tolerance and acceptance of others who may look different or choose to dress differently. Hopefully the school will approach the situation in a positive way.

I work in a secondary school and I agree we are not in the dark ages people. Sorry but I deal with children with behaviour issues that are unacceptable in modern society shall we lock them away because their not the "norm". I did expect a more tolerant especially on a liberated site like this !

Why should we be more tolerant just because we like sex? I've never understood this statement "

I just mean that there are all sorts of persuasions on here and I'm shocked by some of the responses I usually find swingers more accepting of peoples choices. And regardless of tattoos as long as there not offensive ones who cares. We don't judge people because of their hair colour !! The world would be pretty boring if everyone was the same.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"It could be a useful way for the school to teach the children about tolerance and acceptance of others who may look different or choose to dress differently. Hopefully the school will approach the situation in a positive way.

I work in a secondary school and I agree we are not in the dark ages people. Sorry but I deal with children with behaviour issues that are unacceptable in modern society shall we lock them away because their not the "norm". I did expect a more tolerant especially on a liberated site like this !

Why should we be more tolerant just because we like sex? I've never understood this statement

I just mean that there are all sorts of persuasions on here and I'm shocked by some of the responses I usually find swingers more accepting of peoples choices. And regardless of tattoos as long as there not offensive ones who cares. We don't judge people because of their hair colour !! The world would be pretty boring if everyone was the same."

That's interesting because I have been shocked by the lack of tolerance shown by swingers and often towards very minor things. There are some who are very open and inclusive, happy for people to have different tastes, preferences, body types and looks but a lot are very suspicious of those who don't conform to their preconceived ideas of what swinging should be, how you should play and what is acceptable in looks. That's before we get on to sticky subjects like race, religion and politics

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"There are very few societies that do appreciate that, in fact I would say that it's at the heart of most societies to exclude those who are different."

I can't dissagree with you on that one

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"There are very few societies that do appreciate that, in fact I would say that it's at the heart of most societies to exclude those who are different.

I can't dissagree with you on that one"

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That's the thing about discussion though, if you genuinely do accept that everyone will have different opinions you can disagree about lots of things but agree on others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have no issue with my children having a tattoo'd teacher atall. My issue is only with those tattoo's that cannot be covered. Face, neck, hands those type of tattoo's unfortunately do get judged and I would rather minimise any risk of my children making that choice. Of course if they do, there's not much I can do about it and they will have to tolerate the bigots of society giving some of the highly paid jobs available to others purely because of an individual choice. I don't think they effect the ability of the teacher atall.

However I do think they effect job prospects for the future be that right or wrong it is fact. I have seen it.

It's such a shame that the rest of the western society in the majority don't appreciate that we are all different.

"

I agree.

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By *lack_BoltMan
over a year ago

oxford

Mmmmm? I've quickly skimmed over many of the comments, so forgive me if I get certain elements wrong, but it seems to me that they tend, as always, to fall into the usual responses. It's too easy to say we should be able to do what we want, wear what we want, and behave how we wish as long as it doesn't harm anyone. Or even if it doesn't offend then it's OK. The problem is what are the parameters?

Everything we do or say has a context and doesn't exist in a vacuum. Everything we do has a consequence and therefore there are responsibilities. So it's naive to believe that anything goes.

Taking tattoos as an example. There's nothing wrong with tattoos, or different coloured hair, but would you really feel confident being represented by a lawyer wearing a onesie, covered in tattoos, and having bright green hair? Or needing a life saving operation and being approached by a surgeon looking the same? We make the same judgements in respect to age and gender, which can legitimately be context sensitive.

Also there are dress codes associated with different jobs that need to be adhered to. They are in place not only to project a certain image to respective clients, but are also there because the clients need some quick frame of reference that inspire confidence and respect in the individual set before them. And can also undermine your authority and ability to do your job effectively.

For better or worse this is deep rooted and to ignore it can cause very bad relationships or confusion in regards to expectations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mmmmm? I've quickly skimmed over many of the comments, so forgive me if I get certain elements wrong, but it seems to me that they tend, as always, to fall into the usual responses. It's too easy to say we should be able to do what we want, wear what we want, and behave how we wish as long as it doesn't harm anyone. Or even if it doesn't offend then it's OK. The problem is what are the parameters?

Everything we do or say has a context and doesn't exist in a vacuum. Everything we do has a consequence and therefore there are responsibilities. So it's naive to believe that anything goes.

Taking tattoos as an example. There's nothing wrong with tattoos, or different coloured hair, but would you really feel confident being represented by a lawyer wearing a onesie, covered in tattoos, and having bright green hair? Or needing a life saving operation and being approached by a surgeon looking the same? We make the same judgements in respect to age and gender, which can legitimately be context sensitive.

Also there are dress codes associated with different jobs that need to be adhered to. They are in place not only to project a certain image to respective clients, but are also there because the clients need some quick frame of reference that inspire confidence and respect in the individual set before them. And can also undermine your authority and ability to do your job effectively.

For better or worse this is deep rooted and to ignore it can cause very bad relationships or confusion in regards to expectations."

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"Mmmmm? I've quickly skimmed over many of the comments, so forgive me if I get certain elements wrong, but it seems to me that they tend, as always, to fall into the usual responses. It's too easy to say we should be able to do what we want, wear what we want, and behave how we wish as long as it doesn't harm anyone. Or even if it doesn't offend then it's OK. The problem is what are the parameters?

Everything we do or say has a context and doesn't exist in a vacuum. Everything we do has a consequence and therefore there are responsibilities. So it's naive to believe that anything goes.

Taking tattoos as an example. There's nothing wrong with tattoos, or different coloured hair, but would you really feel confident being represented by a lawyer wearing a onesie, covered in tattoos, and having bright green hair? Or needing a life saving operation and being approached by a surgeon looking the same? We make the same judgements in respect to age and gender, which can legitimately be context sensitive.

Also there are dress codes associated with different jobs that need to be adhered to. They are in place not only to project a certain image to respective clients, but are also there because the clients need some quick frame of reference that inspire confidence and respect in the individual set before them. And can also undermine your authority and ability to do your job effectively.

For better or worse this is deep rooted and to ignore it can cause very bad relationships or confusion in regards to expectations."
. Excellent post

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"What if her tats have adult content ?

Sex, Drugs, Devil Worship ? Profanities ? Anti Establishment Slogans ?

What then ?

A quick Google search shows her tattoos fail to mention

. Scenes of intercourse

. Anyone shooting up heroin

. An image of satan

And no where on her body does it say fuck the system.

judge her teaching ability not the tattoos

My guess is that personally you don't like tattoos

"

You guess wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would have no problem with my son being taught by someone covered in tattoos....as long as they are caring, compassionate and good at their job it doesn't matter what their skin looks like!!

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