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"Really tough one this. A lot of counter proliferation / anti terrorist work is perhaps going on but I suspect not enough. OP, what are your thoughts on tackling it? " I think that the UN, NATO, the EU and other international bodies need to take a stronger stance on rape as a weapon of warfare. I think that the fact that we will intervene in the middle east with no qualms but are not prepared to act in Africa is disquieting and disheartening. I think that 219 families are suffering heartbreak every day they wake up without their daughters safe in their own beds, and the heartbreak will be worse now they know for certain that those daughters will be suffering rape - sexual activity in a forced marriage is rape even if the girls submit out of fear. | |||
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""The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". Edmund Burke" True, but have the good people of Nigeria done about it and should it become our problem because of their procrastination? | |||
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""The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". Edmund Burke True, but have the good people of Nigeria done about it and should it become our problem because of their procrastination?" May I refer you to Pastor Niemoller: "First they came for the Socialists. And i did not speak out because I am not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists. And I did not speak out because I am not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews. And I did not speak out because I am not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak." | |||
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""The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". Edmund Burke True, but have the good people of Nigeria done about it and should it become our problem because of their procrastination? May I refer you to Pastor Niemoller: "First they came for the Socialists. And i did not speak out because I am not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists. And I did not speak out because I am not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews. And I did not speak out because I am not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak."" Not sure if a seeing via quotes will generate a debate, though I do see your points. It's tough though, there are worse atrocities than this in the world too that get zero media attention, including in the UK. I'd be curious, as with many other forum posts - what are the people with online passion for these causes, doing in real life? | |||
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""The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". Edmund Burke True, but have the good people of Nigeria done about it and should it become our problem because of their procrastination? May I refer you to Pastor Niemoller: "First they came for the Socialists. And i did not speak out because I am not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists. And I did not speak out because I am not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews. And I did not speak out because I am not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak." Not sure if a seeing via quotes will generate a debate, though I do see your points. It's tough though, there are worse atrocities than this in the world too that get zero media attention, including in the UK. I'd be curious, as with many other forum posts - what are the people with online passion for these causes, doing in real life? " Then they sent for us, we kicked their butts and got dragged into a stupid war, where again, we were portrayed as a white Crusader imperial power, then bleated at by the same liberals who wanted us to do something in the first place. Boko Haram are gangsters. Religion is a smoke screen. Nigeria is corrupt, ask an African - they will tell you. We should help the Africans sort it with intelligence, logistics, not cash or men. In fact, developing infrastructure across Africa and boosting economic development would boost everyone's lives. We'd have buyers for our goods, not just guns, and less illegal immigration. | |||
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" In fact, developing infrastructure across Africa and boosting economic development would boost everyone's lives. We'd have buyers for our goods, not just guns, and less illegal immigration. " I couldn't agree with you more on this point. | |||
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"These atrocities have been happening for generations. How do you change a culture so they recognize that it is immoral? Forced marriages have come to light with the last 10-15 years, in the U.K. Before this time, it wasn't news but it still went on. Myself I have experienced something similar, and the pressure is enforced by parents. But at a young tender age, how can a child refuse they're patents, who will protect this child if the parent doesn't? Cultures change in time, as a society we need to be vigilant and try to re-educate people on what is immortal and unethical. H" Change happens from the grassroots. Lecturing Africans from the comfort of the West, will always come across as colonial bullshit, even if the person doing the lecturing is black. We need to help Africans sort it themselves. | |||
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"These atrocities have been happening for generations. How do you change a culture so they recognize that it is immoral? Forced marriages have come to light with the last 10-15 years, in the U.K. Before this time, it wasn't news but it still went on. Myself I have experienced something similar, and the pressure is enforced by parents. But at a young tender age, how can a child refuse they're patents, who will protect this child if the parent doesn't? Cultures change in time, as a society we need to be vigilant and try to re-educate people on what is immortal and unethical. H Change happens from the grassroots. Lecturing Africans from the comfort of the West, will always come across as colonial bullshit, even if the person doing the lecturing is black. We need to help Africans sort it themselves." How would you proceed? Would you go to Africa and lecture them on how to live, give them lessons in morals and ethics without knowing anything about they're culture? I am not black btw. | |||
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"These atrocities have been happening for generations. How do you change a culture so they recognize that it is immoral? Forced marriages have come to light with the last 10-15 years, in the U.K. Before this time, it wasn't news but it still went on. Myself I have experienced something similar, and the pressure is enforced by parents. But at a young tender age, how can a child refuse they're patents, who will protect this child if the parent doesn't? Cultures change in time, as a society we need to be vigilant and try to re-educate people on what is immortal and unethical. H Change happens from the grassroots. Lecturing Africans from the comfort of the West, will always come across as colonial bullshit, even if the person doing the lecturing is black. We need to help Africans sort it themselves. How would you proceed? Would you go to Africa and lecture them on how to live, give them lessons in morals and ethics without knowing anything about they're culture? I am not black btw. " No - you don't lecture them at all. You just listen, don't meddle, ask Africans what they need. Food, shelter, security mainly. I don't actually know the answers, but there are plenty of decent, smart, organised Africans who might. If we help them get decent infrastructure and have fair-trade, offer assistance to African Union peacekeepers, if they can get bread, butter and their own security then they will create an Africa run by Africans for Africans. Don't just bomb the shit out of the Muslim ones either. I don't have the answers, just questions... | |||
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""The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". Edmund Burke True, but have the good people of Nigeria done about it and should it become our problem because of their procrastination? May I refer you to Pastor Niemoller: "First they came for the Socialists. And i did not speak out because I am not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists. And I did not speak out because I am not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews. And I did not speak out because I am not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak."" First time I've heard this, but oh my, it says it all, and says it perfectly Sarah x | |||
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"Africa's biggest problems are not religion or guns or Ebola it's fucking big business that's tearing the place apart. There 300 years behind us in terms of technology and infrastructure and that means their also 300 years behind us in values, have a look at our values 300 years ago we weren't that much different. This last 30 years of rabid capitalist global expansion rips the heart out of all the third world countries for ever growing profit, sure it's giving them a job but it's slave jobs still, just enough to survive on. Africa is huge and has massive resources it's kept a shit hole by those that wish to exploit it..... Which is the eu the us and the un." | |||
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"Africa's biggest problems are not religion or guns or Ebola it's fucking big business that's tearing the place apart. There 300 years behind us in terms of technology and infrastructure and that means their also 300 years behind us in values, have a look at our values 300 years ago we weren't that much different. This last 30 years of rabid capitalist global expansion rips the heart out of all the third world countries for ever growing profit, sure it's giving them a job but it's slave jobs still, just enough to survive on. Africa is huge and has massive resources it's kept a shit hole by those that wish to exploit it..... Which is the eu the us and the un." That makes it sound like Africa is one country living in the Dark Ages which isnt true. In Kenya I go shopping in the big shopping malls and drink lattes in Java Joes. Can drive for days in Ethiopia and Botswana and not hit a pothole on the road. I can sit using my laptop in internet cafes across Africa chatting on Fab all day if I want. Nigeria has a space programme. South Africa hardly lacks technology and instrastructure... There are big businesses in many parts of Africa. What is different in most African countries is the size of the gap between rich and poor. | |||
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"Africa's biggest problems are not religion or guns or Ebola it's fucking big business that's tearing the place apart. There 300 years behind us in terms of technology and infrastructure and that means their also 300 years behind us in values, have a look at our values 300 years ago we weren't that much different. This last 30 years of rabid capitalist global expansion rips the heart out of all the third world countries for ever growing profit, sure it's giving them a job but it's slave jobs still, just enough to survive on. Africa is huge and has massive resources it's kept a shit hole by those that wish to exploit it..... Which is the eu the us and the un. That makes it sound like Africa is one country living in the Dark Ages which isnt true. In Kenya I go shopping in the big shopping malls and drink lattes in Java Joes. Can drive for days in Ethiopia and Botswana and not hit a pothole on the road. I can sit using my laptop in internet cafes across Africa chatting on Fab all day if I want. Nigeria has a space programme. South Africa hardly lacks technology and instrastructure... There are big businesses in many parts of Africa. What is different in most African countries is the size of the gap between rich and poor." Our politicians are striving to make that gap between rich and poor in the UK rival that in African countries. | |||
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"That makes it sound like Africa is one country living in the Dark Ages which isnt true...... Go on Google earth at night and see how much in the dark they are!" I dont usually need to - I just look out of the window | |||
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"Africa's biggest problems are not religion or guns or Ebola it's fucking big business that's tearing the place apart. There 300 years behind us in terms of technology and infrastructure and that means their also 300 years behind us in values, have a look at our values 300 years ago we weren't that much different. This last 30 years of rabid capitalist global expansion rips the heart out of all the third world countries for ever growing profit, sure it's giving them a job but it's slave jobs still, just enough to survive on. Africa is huge and has massive resources it's kept a shit hole by those that wish to exploit it..... Which is the eu the us and the un." ...and China. No-one ever mentions China, but they are the biggest investor at the moment, free infrastructure in exchange for neverending loans, and employing Chinese workers instead of Africans... | |||
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