FabSwingers.com forum: Beatles are not better than Queen.

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And your evidence to support the claim is.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I'm also interested to know too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I also think they were awful too. I can't deny the impact they had on music though.

Obviously it's just personal opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a massive fan of the Beatles myself, but you have to appreciate their importance in music history. They were a massive influence for a great many bands that followed.

At the time, they were ground breaking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like both

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

all you need is fat bottomed girls

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation."

Are you here to look for fun or arguments?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Without the Beatles there would have been no Queen

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Songs... Singers... Drummer... Can easily fit in any decade... Crowd pulling... Versatile. If Freddie lived long enough to go solo, he still would've been successful cause he's got that natural stage presence.

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation.

Are you here to look for fun or arguments?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like both "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Songs... Singers... Drummer... Can easily fit in any decade... Crowd pulling... Versatile. If Freddie lived long enough to go solo, he still would've been successful cause he's got that natural stage presence.

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Agree queen are a good band and playing a live gig they were amazing, but to class Beatles as the 1d of the 60s is just stupid. You can't camp are the two.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Without the Beatles there would have been no Queen"

Without rock n roll, Beatles wouldn't be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*compare

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I was unaware there was some sort of competition. I like both myself.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

"Without the Beatles there would have been no Queen

Without rock n roll, Beatles wouldn't be"
let it be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a fan of the Beatles but they did earn their success. Unlike 1 direction.

Queen however - still timeless now.

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By *afadaoMan
over a year ago

Staines

"If Freddie lived long enough to go solo, he still would've been successful cause he's got that natural stage presence."

He did go solo, he recorded quite a lot between 1985-1990.

Absolutely incredible singer and you're right - phenomenal charisma.

I think though that when you're comparing any British band to the Beatles you're comparing them to the benchmark.

Whether you prefer Queen or The kinks Or The Who or The Stones, etc, etc - they all owe a hell of a lot to the Fab Four who blazed a major trail

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Agree queen are a good band and playing a live gig they were amazing, but to class Beatles as the 1d of the 60s is just stupid. You can't camp are the two."

They kinda were. If queen was about when Beatles started, they would've struggled. Imagine bohemian rhapsody in the 60s. People would've lost their mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Queen are the dogs bollox pure awesome...end off..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a big of The Beatles but love Queen also the The Kinks, The Who,Small Faces, The Rolling Stones the y just don't make music like that anymore.I blame the X-Factor lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

It's like in hip hop... Hip hop fans won't ever say Sugar hill or Grandmaster flash is the greatest cause they started it first. It will always be Jay Z for so many reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also depends on how you come to the conclusion. Think you'll find that the Beatles had more hits and number ones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

I respect your choice, its good that we all like different things, but your theory on this basis doesn't stand true. You obviously know very little about The Beatles 'major promotion' campaign they had. And I'm sorry but Queen were promoted,,,,don't know how you work that out.

Crowd pulling?...The Beatles stopped performing when they could no longer hear themselves at gigs and the fans couldn't hear the music, due to the sheer amount of crowd noise. Plenty of Beatle songs still sound fresh and relevant today. They wrote for many of the big artists & gave the Rolling Stones their first hit.

Versatile? The Beatles started out as Rock & Roll musicians, then went through their 1D 'Boyband stage, and traversed through country, folk, psychedelia, to name a few genres.

They still hold a lot of 'firsts' for the music industry, some never to be beaten.......I could go on.....

But I do agree Freddie was one of the greatest front men of all time. excellent performer & fantastic voice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

It's like in hip hop... Hip hop fans won't ever say Sugar hill or Grandmaster flash is the greatest cause they started it first. It will always be Jay Z for so many reasons."
It all depends on your age....70 year olds will say Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra were better than both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Agree queen are a good band and playing a live gig they were amazing, but to class Beatles as the 1d of the 60s is just stupid. You can't camp are the two.

They kinda were. If queen was about when Beatles started, they would've struggled. Imagine bohemian rhapsody in the 60s. People would've lost their mind"

Imagine Sgt Pepper in the 60's...minds were blown

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think in terms of record sales is the best way to judge, just done a bit of research, Beatles first two albums state side sold 200,000 more than 1Ds first 3 albums, and to date the Beatles have sold over 250 million and counting, can't seem to find a figure for 1d, 4.8 million I spotted on one site but not sure of the accuracy, oh and Grandmaster flash and the furious five were awsome. Gunna have to watch Beat Street now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

Regardless of first or not mate, they created, and a lot followed. And to be honest, even if someone prefers a different band, or even hates The Fab Four, like someone mentioned, they are the benchmark

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Queen are good. But I love the Beatles. Their lyrics are interesting. The songs are all so different, which I like. There is a song for everyones taste, I should think. If I don't know what music to listen to then I usually put on Beatles or Floyd.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've even had to change my profile pic now to my own little piece of Beatle heaven in support hahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Freddie had a solo career, but was not as successful as Queen.

Until Live Aid, Queen had become a non relevant dead band.

All the members of Queen list either the Beatles or John Lennon as musical inspirations.

I am a fan of Queen, but a huge fan of the Beatles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation."

Why feel the need to share that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Paul likes beetles but I love queen - he's now coming round to my way of thinking as he has little choice as my son is also a big queen fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation.

Why feel the need to share that?"

Nice arse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beatles are not better than Queen.

Correct. They are immeasurably better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

It's like in hip hop... Hip hop fans won't ever say Sugar hill or Grandmaster flash is the greatest cause they started it first. It will always be Jay Z for so many reasons."
. Keep taking the heroin lad! Lol 1d of their generation, ffs 1d can't write their name lat alone dozens of songs that transcend time decades later!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also depends on how you come to the conclusion. Think you'll find that the Beatles had more hits and number ones"

Westlife have had more number ones than oasis , dies that make them better ?

The same applies to cliff Richard and Michael Jackson. There's no telling what crap the British public will buy.

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

It's all personal opinion, i know people that hate Elvis Presley or Michael Jackson who both have steered music in their own place as well as the Beatles, as for Queen, Brian May is well documented for saying Cliff and the Shadows were a huge influence on him as a guitarist and Cliff and the Shadows influence was entirely Elvis and all the other legends of that era just like the Beatles influence was all USA driven rock n roll

Every performer has been influenced by some artist or the other along the line

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also depends on how you come to the conclusion. Think you'll find that the Beatles had more hits and number ones

Westlife have had more number ones than oasis , dies that make them better ?

The same applies to cliff Richard and Michael Jackson. There's no telling what crap the British public will buy. "

Dont diss Westlife muvver fukker

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Versatile? The Beatles started out as Rock & Roll musicians, then went through their 1D 'Boyband stage, and traversed through country, folk, psychedelia, to name a few genres.

They still hold a lot of 'firsts' for the music industry, some never to be beaten.......I could go on.....

But I do agree Freddie was one of the greatest front men of all time. excellent performer & fantastic voice

Cause they did it first. The moon walk wouldn't be as impressive if a few singers did it before MJ.

Most people claim Messi is now the greatest of all time... Ronaldo is more complete than him and a lot better than him but still gets voted second to Messi... But if they were to face each other, Ronald would outshine him. Same as if it was possible to get both Beatles and queen to perform their best 5 songs, queen would win.

Muhammad Ali might might be the greatest but Tyson in his prime would destroy him.

Just my opinion though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

It's like in hip hop... Hip hop fans won't ever say Sugar hill or Grandmaster flash is the greatest cause they started it first. It will always be Jay Z for so many reasons.. Keep taking the heroin lad! Lol 1d of their generation, ffs 1d can't write their name lat alone dozens of songs that transcend time decades later!

I Meant popularity-wise. I never said they had no talent. Clown

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Same as if it was possible to get both Beatles and queen to perform their best 5 songs, queen would win.

Win? What we gonna do have a clapometer?

The top five Beatle songs would easily be more recognisable than any of Queens songs I reckon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I Meant popularity-wise. I never said they had no talent. Clown"

Clown? Is this the well reasoned? debate you said you enjoy having then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

re 5 best songs.

It's perfecty possible to have The Beales or Queen to perfom there best 5 songs. Isn't that what vinyl and CD's are for?

What do you consider either band's best 5 to be?

For starters, i'll add that no less than Frank Sinatra stated that the greatest love song ever is "Something".

But what does/did he know?

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

I Meant popularity-wise. I never said they had no talent. Clown"
What with the name calling, you have an attitude problem it seems.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation.

Why feel the need to share that?"

Cause I can :-/

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Not comparable, you lost your "argument" as son as you mentioned One Direction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Picture this...ur out on the town and "don't stop me now by Queen comes on...do you:-

A. Straight on the floor and dance?

B. Ask the dj for yellow submarine instead?

Thought so too ..lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

re 5 best songs.

It's perfecty possible to have The Beales or Queen to perfom there best 5 songs. Isn't that what vinyl and CD's are for?

What do you consider either band's best 5 to be?

For starters, i'll add that no less than Frank Sinatra stated that the greatest love song ever is "Something".

But what does/did he know?

He also said it was the greatest Lennon McCartney composition Ooooooops

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation.

Why feel the need to share that?

Cause I can :-/"

Oh you thought it would be controversial enough to get you attention one way or another!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Picture this...ur out on the town and "don't stop me now by Queen comes on...do you:-

A. Straight on the floor and dance?

B. Ask the dj for yellow submarine instead?

Thought so too ..lol

I would....you've obviously never seen me throwing shapes to Yellow Submarine

''Sky of blue & sea of green''

Altogether now..........

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

I Meant popularity-wise. I never said they had no talent. ClownWhat with the name calling, you have an attitude problem it seems.

He just referred to me as an heroine addict. :-/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Picture this...ur out on the town and "don't stop me now by Queen comes on...do you:-

A. Straight on the floor and dance?

B. Ask the dj for yellow submarine instead?

Thought so too ..lol

I would....you've obviously never seen me throwing shapes to Yellow Submarine

''Sky of blue & sea of green''

Altogether now..........

Class

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation.

Why feel the need to share that?

Cause I can :-/

Oh you thought it would be controversial enough to get you attention one way or another!"

Yep

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

I Meant popularity-wise. I never said they had no talent. ClownWhat with the name calling, you have an attitude problem it seems.

He just referred to me as an heroine addict. :-/

Why are you all so sensitive in every topic. It's a light debate and someone comes and throw insult in the mix when it wasn't even that serious. This topic was to get others input on the topic... Not to get insulted cause they disagree. "
Well name calling is hardly condusive to an adult debate, you seem to want "debates" but then cannot handle when someone disagrees, I am still waiting for you to tell me which part of American History you meant from the Racial divide, you just came back with "History", bet you never made it into the debate society at uni? Threads may not go as you want them to, its the way of the forums, but you seem to have an attitude in most of your debates, I could be wrong but that is my opinion and I am entitled to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Picture this...ur out on the town and "don't stop me now by Queen comes on...do you:-

A. Straight on the floor and dance?

B. Ask the dj for yellow submarine instead?

Thought so too ..lol

Picture this. You're an up and coming musical "talent" and looking for songs to cover. Which do you choose, the Beatles back catalogue or Queens'?

I haven't counted but i guess more have chosen "Yesterday" alone than the sum total of those covering a Queen song.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

I Meant popularity-wise. I never said they had no talent. ClownWhat with the name calling, you have an attitude problem it seems.

He just referred to me as an heroine addict. :-/

Why are you all so sensitive in every topic. It's a light debate and someone comes and throw insult in the mix when it wasn't even that serious. This topic was to get others input on the topic... Not to get insulted cause they disagree. Well name calling is hardly condusive to an adult debate, you seem to want "debates" but then cannot handle when someone disagrees, I am still waiting for you to tell me which part of American History you meant from the Racial divide, you just came back with "History", bet you never made it into the debate society at uni? Threads may not go as you want them to, its the way of the forums, but you seem to have an attitude in most of your debates, I could be wrong but that is my opinion and I am entitled to it."

Right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation.

Why feel the need to share that?

Cause I can :-/

Oh you thought it would be controversial enough to get you attention one way or another!

Yep"

One to ignore then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't counted but i guess more have chosen "Yesterday" alone than the sum total of those covering a Queen song. "

The most covered pop song ever

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

Moses you don't have to explain your posts to anyone.

If you have broken any rules with your posts then that's for the mods to take up and no one else.

There are controversial threads all the time, I don't think comparing the Beatles to Queen is a crime, otherwise I have a lot of thread reporting to do.

Next time someone implies that you're a drug user just report the post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was no music before Elvis!! then there was Buddy Holly, Then there was the greatest Band in the history of all histories The Beatles! then The Rolling Stones followed and the rest after them! remember they where only commercially together for 8 years 62-70!! 13 albums released in that time!! 17 number one uk singles and 20 us number ones!! Queen wouldn't be around if it werent for john paul george and ringo!! prolific songwriting there has been nothing since and I doubt it would be bettered!! but still they didn't write Bohemian Rhapsody which is up there in my eyes as one of the greatest songs ever!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Moses you don't have to explain your posts to anyone.

If you have broken any rules with your posts then that's for the mods to take up and no one else.

There are controversial threads all the time, I don't think comparing the Beatles to Queen is a crime, otherwise I have a lot of thread reporting to do.

Next time someone implies that you're a drug user just report the post. "

As is peoples right to post comments, ask questions on threads put up. Are you trying to troll this thread making out people have said things they haven't?

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

I like em both... Depending what mood I am in ... Much like lots of the music and artists I like .... ( including D'banj and Whizz kid! Lol )

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Are you trying to troll this thread making out people have said things they haven't?"

Moses said someone implied he was a heroin user, I was advising him to report the post if that's the case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't counted but i guess more have chosen "Yesterday" alone than the sum total of those covering a Queen song.

The most covered pop song ever"

But a dull song. The Beatles were so embarrassed about it, they only released it as an album track in the UK.

For a great love song of theirs listen to In My Life, Here There and Everywhere, In My Life or She's Leaving Home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't counted but i guess more have chosen "Yesterday" alone than the sum total of those covering a Queen song.

The most covered pop song ever

But a dull song. The Beatles were so embarrassed about it, they only released it as an album track in the UK.

For a great love song of theirs listen to In My Life, Here There and Everywhere, In My Life or She's Leaving Home.

Or even Happiness Is A Warm Gun.

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By *andyandy572Man
over a year ago

derbyshire ish

"Picture this...ur out on the town and "don't stop me now by Queen comes on...do you:-

A. Straight on the floor and dance?

B. Ask the dj for yellow submarine instead?

Thought so too ..lol

"
(b)

If there out with the Mrs an enjoy kink lol

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

"There was no music before Elvis!! then there was Buddy Holly, Then there was the greatest Band in the history of all histories The Beatles! then The Rolling Stones followed and the rest after them! remember they where only commercially together for 8 years 62-70!! 13 albums released in that time!! 17 number one uk singles and 20 us number ones!! Queen wouldn't be around if it werent for john paul george and ringo!! prolific songwriting there has been nothing since and I doubt it would be bettered!! but still they didn't write Bohemian Rhapsody which is up there in my eyes as one of the greatest songs ever!! "

Think you are missing a few key names out before the Beatles such as Little Richard, Everly's, Chuck Berry etc in America then in Europe there was Cliff and the Shadows who were extremely successful too, no arguing that the Beatles shook up the whole world for those that followed from the UK

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you trying to troll this thread making out people have said things they haven't?

Moses said someone implied he was a heroin user, I was advising him to report the post if that's the case. "

No thats not what you were doing you seem to like to flame the fire!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Once again... I never once said Beatles are rubbish. Just overrated in my opinion. I Never said they are musically on the same level as 1D. 1D wasn't the key thing in all this... Just a random pick of a popular overrated group/band.

Just wanted to hear others opinion without any insults or patronising comments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Freddy and the Dreamers ROCKED!

lol

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

I think like most genres of music there will always be a group or singer attached to it whether it's rock n roll and elvis or swing and sinatra or reggae and bob marley, doesn't always mean they were the best of their particular brand of music

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By *my-blackTV/TS
over a year ago

Poole

Personally - i love music, always have done and always will do. I have seen more bands than I can remember. Listened to and forgotten more music than most will ever know.

Beatles - they played to their generation and their music lives on, if that isnt a indication of their skill i dont know what is.

Queen - amazingly talented, terribly shortlived, when you think their actual bright light shone for what must have been not much more than a decade its such a shame.

Just cos you dont like it doesnt mean it has no merit

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By *ingdong91Man
over a year ago

shropshire

"Queen are the dogs bollox pure awesome...end off.."

Go on babe you know it QUEEN QUEEN QUEEN CANT BEAT QUEEN !! X

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

No thats not what you were doing you seem to like to flame the fire!"

Asking someone to report rather than do or say anything else is the responsible thing to do in my opinion.

If you don't like that - it's not my problem.

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over a year ago

"Once again... I never once said Beatles are rubbish. Just overrated in my opinion. I Never said they are musically on the same level as 1D. 1D wasn't the key thing in all this... Just a random pick of a popular overrated group/band.

Just wanted to hear others opinion without any insults or patronising comments."

I'm massive Beatles fan but I agree The Bealtes are 1D of the 60's purely because the boy band model was created from the beatles and it seems to create succes even if you cant sing !! 4 cheesy good looking white guys who sing songs about love.

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over a year ago

But a dull song. The Beatles were so embarrassed about it, they only released it as an album track in the UK.

For a great love song of theirs listen to In My Life, Here There and Everywhere, In My Life or She's Leaving Home.

Not a bad song to dream up the melody to though...Even if it was intially called scrambled eggs

Yeah some better choices there...my faves are For No One, Real Love & got to get you into my life...although not a 'love' song as such

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No thats not what you were doing you seem to like to flame the fire!

Asking someone to report rather than do or say anything else is the responsible thing to do in my opinion.

If you don't like that - it's not my problem.

We all have opinions and I have the opinion you are not being honest and looking to flame fires. So no problem just pointing out you are not telling the truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you trying to troll this thread making out people have said things they haven't?

Moses said someone implied he was a heroin user, I was advising him to report the post if that's the case. "
it isn't the case, it was me, read the post before advising people to report!

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over a year ago

"Personally - i love music, always have done and always will do. I have seen more bands than I can remember. Listened to and forgotten more music than most will ever know.

Beatles - they played to their generation and their music lives on, if that isnt a indication of their skill i dont know what is.

Queen - amazingly talented, terribly shortlived, when you think their actual bright light shone for what must have been not much more than a decade its such a shame.

Just cos you dont like it doesnt mean it has no merit

Queen formed in 1970. First album in 1973. Freddie died in 1991. So nearly 20 years of recording

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

here we go again!!!

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By *my-blackTV/TS
over a year ago

Poole

"Personally - i love music, always have done and always will do. I have seen more bands than I can remember. Listened to and forgotten more music than most will ever know.

Beatles - they played to their generation and their music lives on, if that isnt a indication of their skill i dont know what is.

Queen - amazingly talented, terribly shortlived, when you think their actual bright light shone for what must have been not much more than a decade its such a shame.

Just cos you dont like it doesnt mean it has no merit

Queen formed in 1970. First album in 1973. Freddie died in 1991. So nearly 20 years of recording "

20 years of performing - how many before hitting stardom

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over a year ago

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

I Meant popularity-wise. I never said they had no talent. ClownWhat with the name calling, you have an attitude problem it seems.

He just referred to me as an heroine addict. :-/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally - i love music, always have done and always will do. I have seen more bands than I can remember. Listened to and forgotten more music than most will ever know.

Beatles - they played to their generation and their music lives on, if that isnt a indication of their skill i dont know what is.

Queen - amazingly talented, terribly shortlived, when you think their actual bright light shone for what must have been not much more than a decade its such a shame.

Just cos you dont like it doesnt mean it has no merit

Queen formed in 1970. First album in 1973. Freddie died in 1991. So nearly 20 years of recording

20 years of performing - how many before hitting stardom

Killer Queen was their first big hit. 1974

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just wanted to hear others opinion without any insults or patronising comments.

I'm glad somebody got it.

Beatles are the template and blueprint. Queen took multitracking to a next level... Somebody To Love is a perfect example of this.

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over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

You are wrong on so many levels,without The Beatles odds are the music industry would not of changed,so Queen probably would not off even existed ..The Beatles was pretty much one of the first bands that did not have a record company song writer,they broke the rules and wrote there own songs,pretty much all the bands/songs around at the time was all written by the same handful of professional song writers,most bands was just paid a sessions contract wage...And the beatles songs are going on 60 years now,and if you would think that their music was made last week....I think your just a troll...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

I Meant popularity-wise. I never said they had no talent. ClownWhat with the name calling, you have an attitude problem it seems.

He just referred to me as an heroine addict. :-/

"keep taking the heroine lad"?

You're implying that im on heroine and I should continue.

So yeah... I think I can read just a tiny bit.

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By *my-blackTV/TS
over a year ago

Poole

"Personally - i love music, always have done and always will do. I have seen more bands than I can remember. Listened to and forgotten more music than most will ever know.

Beatles - they played to their generation and their music lives on, if that isnt a indication of their skill i dont know what is.

Queen - amazingly talented, terribly shortlived, when you think their actual bright light shone for what must have been not much more than a decade its such a shame.

Just cos you dont like it doesnt mean it has no merit

Queen formed in 1970. First album in 1973. Freddie died in 1991. So nearly 20 years of recording

20 years of performing - how many before hitting stardom

Killer Queen was their first big hit. 1974"

OK so first hit 1974 - last official tour 1986? I know freddie died in 1991 but 1974-1986 of living the life of stardom, like i said - not much over a decade. Such a shame - because if he had been ok i reckon they would still be touring now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Beatles were overrated, but I can tolerate hearing them for a short while.

Queen, on the other hand, should be erased from history along with their cliched pop rock bolox

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

That's like me bringing up rock n roll, bing Cosby and hitler into this. You're making it out like music didn't exist before the Beatles. George Martin Opened the door for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

A troll for not liking the Beatles ? That's a bit OTT.

Buddy Holly and the crickets were a great band who wrote their own stuff before the Beatles were about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can only concur with Moses, the statement re Heroin was made as he said.

Now if there's are any Heroines who'd care to be taken by myself, just pm in the usual manner. Ta. ps no need to rush.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

A troll for not liking the Beatles ? That's a bit OTT.

Buddy Holly and the crickets were a great band who wrote their own stuff before the Beatles were about. "

Because ive seen/read many of his threads before,and there all to start an argument....

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over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

A troll for not liking the Beatles ? That's a bit OTT.

Buddy Holly and the crickets were a great band who wrote their own stuff before the Beatles were about.

Because ive seen/read many of his threads before,and there all to start an argument...."

So don't argue.

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By *issyyourbadWoman
over a year ago

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Will not comment or I will just get mad

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By *my-blackTV/TS
over a year ago

Poole

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Thats ok, i think you are about as mad as some joker who once told me the smiths were the beginning of popular music itself.

Every artist has added something (well admittedly some possbily have taken away) to music as a whole. Their influence is how you take it. Some more some less. The Beatles and Queen are possibly two of the more influential.

I could cite a dozen bands that were leading music at the same time as the Beatles but at ant point in history there are a dozen different bands doing the same.

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over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

A troll for not liking the Beatles ? That's a bit OTT.

Buddy Holly and the crickets were a great band who wrote their own stuff before the Beatles were about.

Because ive seen/read many of his threads before,and there all to start an argument...."

He can't be blamed if people get upset over a pop band. The Beatles come up every now and then and they are not to everyone's taste. He wasn't the first to start name calling. It was all quite sensible until that point.

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over a year ago

Can I just say that, although I am a huge fan of The Beatles, Paul McCartney is a complete twunt. Surely we can all agree on that?

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

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I like some Queen songs, but I think The Beatles showed far more variety of styles, sophisticated songwriting skills e.g. Key changes/modulation, innovation/experimentation etc.

In fairness, Queen started out showing considerable songwriting skills, but after the early days their songs became predominately "basic" rock songs, albeit very well played and with an amazing frontman. The Bestles developed, and experiment far for - take Tomorrow Never Knows for example.

Brian Wilson was the real genius though

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over a year ago

"Can I just say that, although I am a huge fan of The Beatles, Paul McCartney is a complete twunt. Surely we can all agree on that?

Nope can't agree on that either.....He's my hero

Put em up...put em up!

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over a year ago

"Can I just say that, although I am a huge fan of The Beatles, Paul McCartney is a complete twunt. Surely we can all agree on that?

Nope can't agree on that either.....He's my hero

Put em up...put em up!

Shit dude, are you on heroin?

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation."

What a load of Bollocks! I love Queen, but The Beatles were trailblazers for British pop music all over the world. They were from a different era musically, and have influenced millions.

Much like 1 direction then.........

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

A troll for not liking the Beatles ? That's a bit OTT.

Buddy Holly and the crickets were a great band who wrote their own stuff before the Beatles were about.

Because ive seen/read many of his threads before,and there all to start an argument...."

Not really. I give my opinion. Not my fault if someone takes it personal. If they don't agree, they can explain to me why they think my opinion is wrong without attacking me.

What's funny is that these same people don't act like that in person. So why do it online :-/

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over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Versatile? The Beatles started out as Rock & Roll musicians, then went through their 1D 'Boyband stage, and traversed through country, folk, psychedelia, to name a few genres.

They still hold a lot of 'firsts' for the music industry, some never to be beaten.......I could go on.....

But I do agree Freddie was one of the greatest front men of all time. excellent performer & fantastic voice

Cause they did it first. The moon walk wouldn't be as impressive if a few singers did it before MJ.

Muhammad Ali might might be the greatest but Tyson in his prime would destroy him.

Just my opinion though."

I like both bands, both are right up there but you do the Beatles and your own argument a disservice to compare them to 1D. They wrote their own songs, they played their own instruments and they did some groundbreaking work in the studio and that's putting it mildly.

Two other quick points, Chuck D for me over Jay Z any day of the week, I like Rakim more too.

Also, Tyson, wouldn't go the distance with Ali, you don't beat Foreman and Frazier and take punches from Earnie Shavers and then lose to Tyson, and that's no disrespect to Tyson but those guys Ali, Frazier and Foreman were something else, all three beat Tyson for me. Ali (skills aside) and Foreman were too big and strong and Frazier was too damn tough even for Tyson.

That's all my opinion anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Without the Beatles there would have been no Queen

Without rock n roll, Beatles wouldn't be"

the beatles were not rock and roll they were pop, rock is rock m8 and the beatles certainly not a rock group

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over a year ago

Lol would cowell have signed either band.........

Doubt it a man who can't even strum a uke is so influential.... How is it so?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kajagoogoo were better than all of them. Surely everyone can at least agree on this!

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By *my-blackTV/TS
over a year ago

Poole

"Kajagoogoo were better than all of them. Surely everyone can at least agree on this!"

Im sorry but there is no sensible answer to this statement

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Versatile? The Beatles started out as Rock & Roll musicians, then went through their 1D 'Boyband stage, and traversed through country, folk, psychedelia, to name a few genres.

They still hold a lot of 'firsts' for the music industry, some never to be beaten.......I could go on.....

But I do agree Freddie was one of the greatest front men of all time. excellent performer & fantastic voice

Cause they did it first. The moon walk wouldn't be as impressive if a few singers did it before MJ.

Muhammad Ali might might be the greatest but Tyson in his prime would destroy him.

Just my opinion though.

Two other quick points, Chuck D for me over Jay Z any day of the week, I like Rakim more too.

That's all my opinion anyway."
what about Frank Bruno v Tyson? When both in their prime? Genuine question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah but Amy dear the kajagoogoo fan is definitely stone deaf....fact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I just say that, although I am a huge fan of The Beatles, Paul McCartney is a complete twunt. Surely we can all agree on that?

Nope can't agree on that either.....He's my hero

Put em up...put em up!

Shit dude, are you on heroin?

I must be...I've just put on my jacket to upload a pic

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

It's like in hip hop... Hip hop fans won't ever say Sugar hill or Grandmaster flash is the greatest cause they started it first. It will always be Jay Z for so many reasons."

I love White Lines, great song. It's hard to compare bands from different eras, it's like comparing Football teams, or individual players from different eras, who was better, etc. The Beatles and Queen were both great in their own right, it's just personal choice & preference.

As for 1 direction, that was obviously tongue in cheek (wasn't it?) I love a good debate. And the best thing is I'm always right, and you're (whoever you may be) always wrong!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Versatile? The Beatles started out as Rock & Roll musicians, then went through their 1D 'Boyband stage, and traversed through country, folk, psychedelia, to name a few genres.

They still hold a lot of 'firsts' for the music industry, some never to be beaten.......I could go on.....

But I do agree Freddie was one of the greatest front men of all time. excellent performer & fantastic voice

Cause they did it first. The moon walk wouldn't be as impressive if a few singers did it before MJ.

Muhammad Ali might might be the greatest but Tyson in his prime would destroy him.

Just my opinion though.

Two other quick points, Chuck D for me over Jay Z any day of the week, I like Rakim more too.

That's all my opinion anyway. what about Frank Bruno v Tyson? When both in their prime? Genuine question

Seriously? Bruno was the first fighter to hurt Tyson but never followed it up. He never had tye killer instinct. Tyson went on to batter him. Bruno made the sign of the cross 30 odd times before the first bell. The same night one of the greatest boxers ever, Roberto Duran knocked out Iran Barklay.

In the rematch, Tyson was ring rusty after being in prison for 3 years and still battered Bruno to take the title.

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over a year ago

"Can I just say that, although I am a huge fan of The Beatles, Paul McCartney is a complete twunt. Surely we can all agree on that?

Nope can't agree on that either.....He's my hero

Put em up...put em up!

Shit dude, are you on heroin?

I must be...I've just put on my jacket to upload a pic

Ill change my avatar to my Lennon tattoo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ill change my avatar to my Lennon tattoo

"
Good stuff mate, like ya style!

. I'm just sitting waiting for my inbox to fill up now, all the girls love a man in uniform

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"Kajagoogoo were better than all of them. Surely everyone can at least agree on this!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are not and never were in competition. But let's face it neither are the best band ever. And both were prolific and great entertainers in their time.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Versatile? The Beatles started out as Rock & Roll musicians, then went through their 1D 'Boyband stage, and traversed through country, folk, psychedelia, to name a few genres.

They still hold a lot of 'firsts' for the music industry, some never to be beaten.......I could go on.....

But I do agree Freddie was one of the greatest front men of all time. excellent performer & fantastic voice

Cause they did it first. The moon walk wouldn't be as impressive if a few singers did it before MJ.

Muhammad Ali might might be the greatest but Tyson in his prime would destroy him.

Just my opinion though.

Two other quick points, Chuck D for me over Jay Z any day of the week, I like Rakim more too.

That's all my opinion anyway. what about Frank Bruno v Tyson? When both in their prime? Genuine question

In the rematch, Tyson was ring rusty after being in prison for 3 years and still battered Bruno to take the title. "
yeap I was serious! Thank you! ( mrs)

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over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation."

You're wrong, but you're welcome to you're opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like both "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation.

You're wrong, but you're welcome to you're opinion."

*your

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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The first record I ever bought was Queen II on its release date, 8/3/74 3 days after my 12th birthday. Bought all the others on release date too. I don't own anything by The Beatles.

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over a year ago

"The first record I ever bought was Queen II on its release date, 8/3/74 3 days after my 12th birthday. Bought all the others on release date too. I don't own anything by The Beatles. "

Buy some Beatles.

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over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"NO

Haha, your loss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Incidentally, though I am something of a fan of the late, great Michael Jackson, he was in fact NOT the first to perform, what has become known as, the Moonwalk.

One of the members from the group Shalamar performed the 'backslide' on Top of The Pops quite some time before MJ's performance on Motown 25 in 1983. In fact, I understand that this was who MJ learnt it from.

What Jackson did though was polish it and make it his own.

Just FYI

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just wanted to hear others opinion without any insults or patronising comments.

If anyone thinks The Beatles couldn't sing, go to utube and look for the rockband masters of Abbey Road with the insrumentation removed. It's absolutely amazing.

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over a year ago

"Incidentally, though I am something of a fan of the late, great Michael Jackson, he was in fact NOT the first to perform, what has become known as, the Moonwalk.

What Jackson did though was polish it and make it his own.

Just FYI

Were Shalamar swing sniffers as well? Shamon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Freddie had a solo career check is album out

Mr Bad Guy

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Speaking as a man of few words……

In my humble opinion the question neglects consideration of what drives the creative process.

However rather than dodge what I see as a whimsically and harmless question, I endeavour to provide the following meaningless answer …….

Whereby I suggest that if a choice were forced to irrevocably erase the entire body of work created by either group, the worlds collective conscious would suffer a much greater cultural void were we left only with the work of Queen …..

I love art in all its forms and I truly believe no artist should suffer the indignity of having the value of their contributions discredited in comparison to the work produced by other artists…..

Rasssssssssssssssssssssp……..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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"I was unaware there was some sort of competition. I like both myself."

this..

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over a year ago

"Speaking as a man of few words……

In my humble opinion the question neglects consideration of what drives the creative process.

However rather than dodge what I see as a whimsically and harmless question, I endeavour to provide the following meaningless answer …….

I love art in all its forms and I truly believe no artist should suffer the indignity of having the value of their contributions discredited in comparison to the work produced by other artists…..

Rasssssssssssssssssssssp……..

So you agree The Beatles are better!?

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By *icky55Man
over a year ago

Warm an cosy cave. Brist

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

It's like in hip hop... Hip hop fans won't ever say Sugar hill or Grandmaster flash is the greatest cause they started it first. It will always be Jay Z for so many reasons."

It's down to popularity at that time, the Beatles an the stones were the most pop in the 60's 70's, that generation are still about an some of the newer generation like their music, Queen has not been around for that long, an have a different style. Freddy was a great performer with a powerful voice, I like both for different resons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Queens first albums were good when they were a progressive band but then went off them when the went all pop in order to crack America.

The Beatles singles were pop but their album became more and more progressive, in other words they evolved, where Queen sold out. Freddie Mercury is no better singer than Lennon and nowhere near as good a songwriter.

So artistically the Beatles win because what you heard from them was decided in the studio not in an accountants office. You might say the Beatles sold lots of record, but they took huge risks, they could have played safe, but their albums are so radically different, the Beatles in 63 and 69 could be passed off as two different groups.

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"Speaking as a man of few words……

In my humble opinion the question neglects consideration of what drives the creative process.

However rather than dodge what I see as a whimsically and harmless question, I endeavour to provide the following meaningless answer …….

I love art in all its forms and I truly believe no artist should suffer the indignity of having the value of their contributions discredited in comparison to the work produced by other artists…..

Rasssssssssssssssssssssp……..

So you agree The Beatles are better!?

Abso-fook’in-lutely and by incontestable orders of magnitude don't ya know !,,,, …….

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

IMO, music evolves, artists try new things, the ones that make these changes popular first are given the accolade of trailblazers, the Beatles were undoubtedly recognised trailblazers in their era, as were the Sex Pistols in their era, and many other bands that have helped to make music as diverse as it is today, to recognise any of them as being better than the other is surely a matter of personal taste.

I can see a link albeit tenuous between 1D and the Beatles, begs the question of how 1D will evolve, personally I can't see them creating something as credible as Strawberry fields(other Beatles songs are available) but you never know

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By *arehamMan
over a year ago

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Queen far better than the Beatles .

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

To me, the mark of a great song is how it sounds when all the production and effects are stripped away and it's played on a piano or acoustic guitar.

On that basis, I think the Beatles have way more beautifully crafted, more musically sophisticated songs.

That's not to say:

1) Queen don't have songs like that - they do

2)"Simple" can't be better - it often can

3) Some of the Beatles stuff isn't basically production and little else. It is.

The Beatles win out for me.

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over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Versatile? The Beatles started out as Rock & Roll musicians, then went through their 1D 'Boyband stage, and traversed through country, folk, psychedelia, to name a few genres.

They still hold a lot of 'firsts' for the music industry, some never to be beaten.......I could go on.....

But I do agree Freddie was one of the greatest front men of all time. excellent performer & fantastic voice

I like both. Both very good at what they did. David Bowie though... wow. My absolute all-time fav

Sarah x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't counted but i guess more have chosen "Yesterday" alone than the sum total of those covering a Queen song.

The most covered pop song ever"
Along with Immagine all the people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation."

Agree. Don't like the Beatles at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like some Queen songs, but I think The Beatles showed far more variety of styles, sophisticated songwriting skills e.g. Key changes/modulation, innovation/experimentation etc.

Brian Wilson was the real genius though

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Yes I liked the beach boys shame to see brian how he is now, Did they the beach boys get mixed up In some way with charles manson I read about it somewhere I,m sure...?

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over a year ago

"I like some Queen songs, but I think The Beatles showed far more variety of styles, sophisticated songwriting skills e.g. Key changes/modulation, innovation/experimentation etc.

Brian Wilson was the real genius though

Yes I liked the beach boys shame to see brian how he is now, Did they the beach boys get mixed up In some way with charles manson I read about it somewhere I,m sure...? "

Manson thought that the Beatles where writing directly to him through their song lyrics . Certain song names like Piggies off the white album where found painted on the walls of crime scenes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Beatles are long gone.

Punk died too - or it just smells...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their songs are so good that they don't need major promotion to get their songs the attention it needs.

They are just amazing

Versatile? The Beatles started out as Rock & Roll musicians, then went through their 1D 'Boyband stage, and traversed through country, folk, psychedelia, to name a few genres.

They still hold a lot of 'firsts' for the music industry, some never to be beaten.......I could go on.....

But I do agree Freddie was one of the greatest front men of all time. excellent performer & fantastic voice

Cause they did it first. The moon walk wouldn't be as impressive if a few singers did it before MJ.

Muhammad Ali might might be the greatest but Tyson in his prime would destroy him.

Just my opinion though.

Two other quick points, Chuck D for me over Jay Z any day of the week, I like Rakim more too.

That's all my opinion anyway."
Don,t forget tyson chewing a piece out of olander holyfields ear either to me That was his exit out of boxing for good along with any others who have done the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kajagoogoo were better than all of them. Surely everyone can at least agree on this!"
Nice bottom by the way...

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

Im all for personal choice and opinions be it bad or good, but you lost this argument as soon as you referred to the beatles as the 1d of there time, the 2 simply arent comparable, its fair enough stating you like 1 better than the other but why feel the need to slate 1 of them, I cant sing on a karaoke to save my life but if someone compared me to 1d id be highly insulted, personally I dont prefer either above the other, I think they are both great bands that produced excellant music, the 1 fact that stands out is that without the beatles, many other bands/groups including queen would not have been at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Im all for personal choice and opinions be it bad or good, but you lost this argument as soon as you referred to the beatles as the 1d of there time, the 2 simply arent comparable, its fair enough stating you like 1 better than the other but why feel the need to slate 1 of them, I cant sing on a karaoke to save my life but if someone compared me to 1d id be highly insulted, personally I dont prefer either above the other, I think they are both great bands that produced excellant music, the 1 fact that stands out is that without the beatles, many other bands/groups including queen would not have been at all."

Lmao you're too focused on the 1D part. And again... Without rock n roll there would be no Beatles.

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over a year ago

I bet if the Beatles were around today, Simon Cowell would own a piece of them. Which is pretty much what Brian Epstein did for the Beatles - he kept abreast of all the latest fashions and trends and made sure the band followed. IMO, they were the first manufactured boy-band. Nothing wrong with that, and they did some good lightweight tunes, but most of their style and sound were dictated to them by Epstein.

Of the two, I think if both groups came back today, Queen would be more saleable - as long as Freddie got his teeth done.

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over a year ago

"I like some Queen songs, but I think The Beatles showed far more variety of styles, sophisticated songwriting skills e.g. Key changes/modulation, innovation/experimentation etc.

Brian Wilson was the real genius though

Yes I liked the beach boys shame to see brian how he is now, Did they the beach boys get mixed up In some way with charles manson I read about it somewhere I,m sure...?

Manson thought that the Beatles where writing directly to him through their song lyrics . Certain song names like Piggies off the white album where found painted on the walls of crime scenes

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I did say the Beach boys were they involved with manson in someway... but also now you Mention the beatles I wonder if physcodelic had any meaning in mansons Thoughts perhaps along with drugs to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"all you need is fat bottomed girls"

I'll refrain from what I was gonna say haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's wrong with 1d?,

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

Lmao you're too focused on the 1D part. And again... Without rock n roll there would be no Beatles."

no im not, it really is an absolute disgrace to compare a great band like the beatles to some absolute tripe like 1d, and your comment about without rock and roll there would be no beatles is irrelevant in this debate that you started.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The best Beatle was sadly taken to soon

And bless Paul's never had the best of voices

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lmao you're too focused on the 1D part. And again... Without rock n roll there would be no Beatles.

Lol ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The best Beatle was sadly taken to soon

And bless Paul's never had the best of voices

Even lennon acknowledges macca's vocal range and voice is superior

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over a year ago

"The best Beatle was sadly taken to soon

And bless Paul's never had the best of voices

Even lennon acknowledges macca's vocal range and voice is superior

Did Lennon say that when he was whacked out on drugs?

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

I prefer Queen to The Beatles but I wouldn't say one is better than the other. Just different and different people will have different opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me this is a daft thread....like comparing apples and oranges due to the bands' different places in the evolution of pop/rock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For me this is a daft thread....like comparing apples and oranges due to the bands' different places in the evolution of pop/rock.

NIce arse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freddy and the Dreamers ROCKED!

lol"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The best Beatle was sadly taken to soon

And bless Paul's never had the best of voices

McCartneys vocal range was incredible at his peak with The Beatles. Suggest you do some research, like actually listening to him, before posting nonsense

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"By the way... This topic wasn't made to start an argument. I just love talking music in general and getting others opinion.

I just never understood why queen doesn't get a higher praise than Beatles. Regardless whether they did it first.

Here is the post where heroine was mentioned. Much more offensive than OP's response in. Y opinion

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over a year ago

"The best Beatle was sadly taken to soon

And bless Paul's never had the best of voices

Even lennon acknowledges macca's vocal range and voice is superior

Did Lennon say that when he was whacked out on drugs?"

hahaha suprisingly not

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over a year ago

McCartneys vocal range was incredible at his peak with The Beatles. Suggest you do some research, like actually listening to him, before posting nonsense

Never a truer word spoken

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over a year ago

McCartneys vocal range was incredible at his peak with The Beatles. Suggest you do some research, like actually listening to him, before posting nonsense

Never a truer word spoken

I thought he sounded like a strangled cat.

Merle Haggard , now there's a voice.

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

It would be a boring world if everyone liked the same music !

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

I'm in 'the Beatles are overrated' club too.

They were not unique trailblazers and innovators... other bands were doing the same at the same time. They were in the right place at the right time and so were the first to be pushed into the limelight. If it wasn't them it would have been another band around at the time.

They were good at reinventing themselves......... until they went too happy hippy.

They were prolific writers, but a lot of their songs were pretty basic and shite.

But most of all........

Name one war film where the helicopter is blaring out "ticket to ride" as the fly over paddy fields.

I rest my case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm in 'the Beatles are overrated' club too.

They were good at reinventing themselves......... until they went too happy hippy.

They were prolific writers, but a lot of their songs were pretty basic and shite.

But most of all........

Name one war film where the helicopter is blaring out "ticket to ride" as the fly over paddy fields.

I rest my case."

Too late, its already been agreed they were better, trail blazing and innovative

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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"I'm in 'the Beatles are overrated' club too.

They were good at reinventing themselves......... until they went too happy hippy.

They were prolific writers, but a lot of their songs were pretty basic and shite.

But most of all........

Name one war film where the helicopter is blaring out "ticket to ride" as the fly over paddy fields.

I rest my case.

Too late, its already been agreed they were better, trail blazing and innovative

knobheads agreeing counts for nadda!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm in 'the Beatles are overrated' club too.

They were good at reinventing themselves......... until they went too happy hippy.

They were prolific writers, but a lot of their songs were pretty basic and shite.

But most of all........

Name one war film where the helicopter is blaring out "ticket to ride" as the fly over paddy fields.

I rest my case.

Too late, its already been agreed they were better, trail blazing and innovative

By whom ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm in 'the Beatles are overrated' club too.

They were good at reinventing themselves......... until they went too happy hippy.

They were prolific writers, but a lot of their songs were pretty basic and shite.

But most of all........

Name one war film where the helicopter is blaring out "ticket to ride" as the fly over paddy fields.

I rest my case."

Queen weren't exactly a cover of the doors

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just wanted to share this. Beatles are overrated and the 1D of their generation."

Totally agree! We never undertood the fuss around the Beatles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Queen win!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Queen win !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Beatles are best!

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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The Beatles were overrated!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Queen win !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll try again. The Beatles are best!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm afraid it's Queen Jimbo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fab four influenced many bands. They even inspired the name of this website, true story. The Beatles are fab. One of the former members is even called Best.

The Beatles are best!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with the op. The Beatles are comparable to 1D because they both play inane pop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a queen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry I meant to add Queen are better.

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