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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Gazza ain't looking too healthy..just seen a picture and he does not look a well bunny. I've also just read he has been sectioned. I think he has well and truly been beaten by alcohol...it's really sad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope I'm wrong, I really, really do, but I'll be surprised if he sees out the decade to be honest.

Such a sad situation - the world at his feet, such talent, to this.

I hope he can clear his demons once and for all and come back a strong, healthy man once again, but I have my doubts.

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

he needs to be sectioned for his own good

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"I hope I'm wrong, I really, really do, but I'll be surprised if he sees out the decade to be honest.

Such a sad situation - the world at his feet, such talent, to this.

I hope he can clear his demons once and for all and come back a strong, healthy man once again, but I have my doubts."

Nah he is well and truly fucked. Seen it all too often in a professional capacity and there is a point of no return with substance misuse and I think he is well and truly at the point of no return..

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

There are many folk who sit in every town centre in Britain who would be grateful of the opportunities he has been given

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alcoholism is the biggest killer in the uk but the BMA will not allow it on death certificates such a shame as highlighting alcoholism and the effects on the body could potentially save people.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"There are many folk who sit in every town centre in Britain who would be grateful of the opportunities he has been given

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With respect I partly agree, but there are also folk who sit in every town centre that refuse help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Worked for a few years at the Hilton park lane and quite often had a drink at the local in shepards market ,at the bar with out fail was George best ,he would chat to any one but always pissed you could see where it was going to end and unfortunately I think gazza has booked his seat beside him ,such a shame

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

Demons are a terrible thing. I wish him well.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"There are many folk who sit in every town centre in Britain who would be grateful of the opportunities he has been given

With respect I partly agree, but there are also folk who sit in every town centre that refuse help."

You can lead a horse to water is probably the wrong analogy in this case, but yes, it seems like he doesn't want help and is hell bent on destroying himself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I read his book, and the first half was interesting lots of tales to tell. But then it all went downhill for him....As much as I'd love to wish him well......I can't see it happening...shame

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"he needs to be sectioned for his own good"

Again though? That's happened, and its never worked for the guy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just find it incredibly sad

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"he needs to be sectioned for his own good"
Why?

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"There are many folk who sit in every town centre in Britain who would be grateful of the opportunities he has been given

With respect I partly agree, but there are also folk who sit in every town centre that refuse help."

I have to agree there are some that either really enjoy it and don't want to give it up or there are those that are so entrenched that they wouldn't be able to give it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's sad, people that are in that spiral can't see what we see, as outsiders looking on. Alcoholism is a terrible addiction that ruins lives and tears families apart. Professionals, friends and family can't do it for Gazza, they can try, but at the end of the day he's the only one that can beat it. I'm not sure he can and it's incredibly sad. Like a previous poster it reminds me of George Best.

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By *ingle Beds LassWoman
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

My mum died of alcoholic liver disease and it was something we could not get beyond. My dad is going the same way, which I cannot get my head around as he saw and felt the effect my mum's death had on us as a family. Very powerful illness. I am distancing myself from my dad now. Once was hard enough.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"My mum died of alcoholic liver disease and it was something we could not get beyond. My dad is going the same way, which I cannot get my head around as he saw and felt the effect my mum's death had on us as a family. Very powerful illness. I am distancing myself from my dad now. Once was hard enough.

I'm really sorry to hear about your parents and it's got to be tough on you at the end of the day you have to consider number one. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i work with people that alcohol has physically and mentally ruined them - its a toughie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here is an interesting question.do you think that gazza, best, and other famous/rich people who have died (yeah I know gazza is still alive but think the damage is done tbh) do you think that they would have ended up going the same way in life had they not had access to huge amounts of money?

I think yes.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Here is an interesting question.do you think that gazza, best, and other famous/rich people who have died (yeah I know gazza is still alive but think the damage is done tbh) do you think that they would have ended up going the same way in life had they not had access to huge amounts of money?

I think yes. "

Not sure to be honest I'm not saying they wouldn't who knows

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they say people with addictive personalities will always find something to rule their lives - my bro-in-law was a junkie and alcoholic - he now works for NA - totally thrown himself into it the other way - but he does this with all things and never does anything half heartedly -

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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)

I think yes. "

I am not sure, an addictive personality can be in anyone whether they are rich and famous or an ordinary person with no money. I don't know anything about it but it does seem to be a disease that can strike anyone regardless of their status in life.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Speaking as someone who has been to the edge and back, I agree with the comments about addictive personality.

I have always found something to replace the previous one.

Luckily, never drugs or smoking.

Exercise, sex, eating, cleaning

There is always something.

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By *ingle Beds LassWoman
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

I'm really sorry to hear about your parents and it's got to be tough on you at the end of the day you have to consider number one. X"

Self preservation as I have my own family to help when the inevitable happens. told him this too, as I did my mother, but booze wins every time. Sad fact of their and my life.

Aaaaanyway, time for work!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Alcoholism is the biggest killer in the uk but the BMA will not allow it on death certificates such a shame as highlighting alcoholism and the effects on the body could potentially save people. "

Thst is utter rubbish

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"Gazza ain't looking too healthy..just seen a picture and he does not look a well bunny. I've also just read he has been sectioned. I think he has well and truly been beaten by alcohol...it's really sad.

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. Very sad . Would be interested in his family background and their attitude towards drink. Sadly his money does not appear to help in this case .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope I'm wrong, I really, really do, but I'll be surprised if he sees out the decade to be honest.

Such a sad situation - the world at his feet, such talent, to this.

I hope he can clear his demons once and for all and come back a strong, healthy man once again, but I have my doubts.

Nah he is well and truly fucked. Seen it all too often in a professional capacity and there is a point of no return with substance misuse and I think he is well and truly at the point of no return.."

I think you are sadly right. Sadly I think he's reached the point where abstinence will make no difference as his organs are fucked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is probably going to sound harsh, but.

I have zero sympathy for him.

He had the world at his feet but chose alcohol. He's been given help numerous times but still chosen the bottle. The only reason he's still receiving help and support is because he's a celebrity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is probably going to sound harsh, but.

I have zero sympathy for him.

He had the world at his feet but chose alcohol. He's been given help numerous times but still chosen the bottle. The only reason he's still receiving help and support is because he's a celebrity. "

I have to agree . All very sad though. Just let him get on with it now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is probably going to sound harsh, but.

I have zero sympathy for him.

He had the world at his feet but chose alcohol. He's been given help numerous times but still chosen the bottle. The only reason he's still receiving help and support is because he's a celebrity. "

I'm inclined to agree with you although I do have some sympathy for him. I had a relative who died because of alcohol addiction and it's sad to see.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

It is a horrid addiction but he has had some of the very best help, so it is up to him whether he allows it to continue to consume every facet of his life...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are many folk who sit in every town centre in Britain who would be grateful of the opportunities he has been given

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Being rich, famous, talented etc. doesn't necessarily add up to being a well adjusted person. I know a couple in their 40's who have everything going for them, but the husband suffers terribly with anxiety issues. These things aren't always black and white. People shouldn't be too quick to judge.

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I actually don't think he has any money left if I remember rightly people have been bailing him out for years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive been there with my mum. Dead at 57. Alcoholism runs in my family. Seeing what happened to my mum stops me from drinking.

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By *ingle Beds LassWoman
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

Ive been there with my mum. Dead at 57. Alcoholism runs in my family. Seeing what happened to my mum stops me from drinking. "

My sister and I and our kids are not drinkers either. I do drink don't get me wrong, but aware of the dangers. I just wish my dad was educated positively by what happened, alas ce la vie

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"There are many folk who sit in every town centre in Britain who would be grateful of the opportunities he has been given

My point was that he has spurned every opportunity handed to him, whether he is Paul Gascoigne or Joe Bloggs, it matters little. You can only do so much to help someone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very sad story and one that looks like it's only going to end well. His family must feel so helpless, and I'm sure Gazza feels the same - his demons have never really gone away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So very sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

for people who dont have sympathy with him - is that because he is ''a celeb'' or is it anybody with a similar problem ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"for people who dont have sympathy with him - is that because he is ''a celeb'' or is it anybody with a similar problem ?"

Anybody that's behaved in the same manner.

He's asked for help, he's received it and then promptly gone back to the booze.

I'm not one that subscribes to the "alcoholism is an illness" theory.

It's an addiction and a lifestyle choice, you break the cycle and kick the habit of you want to get better. You don't wallow in self pity complaining it's hard, you fight to beat it.

Sorry if that's harsh but it's my _iew and it's not going to change any time soon....

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By *isscheekychops OP Woman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I'm thankful that I battled and conquered and am now debt free from years of addiction

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By *Kgirl80Woman
over a year ago

South Coast

So very sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm thankful that I battled and conquered and am now debt free from years of addiction

And good on you for it...

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By *ingle Beds LassWoman
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

"I'm thankful that I battled and conquered and am now debt free from years of addiction

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm thankful that I battled and conquered and am now debt free from years of addiction

Good for you cheeky, may you be an example to those still struggling

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

No sympathy they bring it on themselves and ruin other lives.

Yes I am bitter,my mum was an alcoholic

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