FabSwingers.com forum: EU demands a £1.7 billion payment from U.K.

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The EU has demanded that the U.K. pay an extra £1.7 billion because our economy is doing better than expected. Discuss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

EU offered £2.5 billion last year to us to help the poor and stock up food banks, but Camoron turned it down saying the country was fine.

You sure this story is true because there is more poverty than ever right now and food banks are in even more demand? I'm gonna google it...

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The EU has demanded that the U.K. pay an extra £1.7 billion because our economy is doing better than expected. Discuss."

Maybe they actually want ukip to win? can only be good news for them!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost"

How?

I can only find one story about it and it explains nothing, well Camoron says its not fair and he is going to gang up with other countries who have been asked to pay as well. Then the EU say it's just like when earnings go up and you pay more taxes...

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost

How?

So not just the UK being asked? Thanks for clarifying that point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost

How?

So not just the UK being asked? Thanks for clarifying that point. "

That's about all I can clarify though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

EU can go f**k themselves!!!

Sorry, but we pay enough to Brussells already. And particularly given the comments by outgoing and incomming presidents this week on the subject of renegotiation on EU migration...

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost

How? "

Where have you been for the last 10 years or so???

Gordon Brown decided to use the wonga school of finance. Borrow some money, realise you can't afford to pay it back, so borrow more money to pay for the first loan. Slaps forehead and realises that the second loan is costing more than the first one so has the cracking idea to borrow yet more money etc ect... Then to top it off decides to sell all the gold when it's at it's lowest price in years...

The biggest worry is Labour still can't see anything wrong with this...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost

How?

Where have you been for the last 10 years or so???

The biggest worry is Labour still can't see anything wrong with this...

You forgot the fact that he robbed billions from all the pension funds of those who had actually had the sense to save towards their retirement!

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

This is were Cameron stands firm and says fuck you

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"This is were Cameron stands firm and says fuck you"

He's hardly going to do that is he. He'll be looking for a cushy EU job when he's finished shafting the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's as though the EU are writing UKIPs manifesto for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there is some kind of clause in the budget agreements that states the amounts due varies depending on economic performance...that seems an an odd sort of arrangement.

I've always been generally quite pro-EU but in recent years some things seem to have been really taking the piss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You forgot all the pensions he gambled on, and lost....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost

How?

Where have you been for the last 10 years or so???

The biggest worry is Labour still can't see anything wrong with this...

You forgot the fact that he robbed billions from all the pension funds of those who had actually had the sense to save towards their retirement!"

Snap...

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"If there is some kind of clause in the budget agreements that states the amounts due varies depending on economic performance...that seems an an odd sort of arrangement.

Yes it seems there is a link between revenues raised and contributions paid to the EU.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"You forgot all the pensions he gambled on, and lost....

Let's face it, they made so many mistakes it's hard to remember them all....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another story to make us believe we going to vote uk ind next time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do what France would do. Tell them to fuck right off.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost

How?

Where have you been for the last 10 years or so???

The biggest worry is Labour still can't see anything wrong with this...

You forgot the fact that he robbed billions from all the pension funds of those who had actually had the sense to save towards their retirement!"

Yet the reason for this demand is that Britain's economy did so well (mostly) under Gordon's stint at the Treasury.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

this goes back to '95 so the irony is that Brown was the Chancellor for a large part of the period that this applies to..

yes he made mistakes as has this latest one..

the IMF figures on GDP from the time he was Chancellor to just before the global financial crash were something that this present guy has yet to achieve..

on borrowing, anyone care to say what it is now and forecast to be for several yrs yet?

some times one would think were are living in a land of milk and honey..

its only gong to get tougher no matter who is in office..

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"Another story to make us believe we going to vote uk ind next time

Personally I would have voted monster raving loony party, as you know exactly what you are getting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Gordon Brown decided to use the wonga school of finance. "

Strange thing is that borrowing has increased dramatically in the last 4 years, so are you saying that the current government is actually run by Gordon Brown?

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

The most recent poll (last week) suggests that a majority of people would vote to stay IN the EU.

If the Scottish referendum has taught us anything it's that most people don't like change and uncertainty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost

How?

Where have you been for the last 10 years or so???

The biggest worry is Labour still can't see anything wrong with this...

Was just asking. Gideon has borrowed more though so it must work?

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

David Cameron has just interrupted an EU summit to demand an emergency meeting of finance ministers to discuss this

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Part of the reason for the 1.7 billion rise is due to the EU deciding that the black economy has to be taken into account (drugs prostitution, illegal booze & cigs etc.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Part of the reason for the 1.7 billion rise is due to the EU deciding that the black economy has to be taken into account (drugs prostitution, illegal booze & cigs etc.)"

Politics never makes sense to me. Doubt anyone pays tax on this stuff? I know you're supposed to but...

Also, if you deduct the cost of crime (including shoplifting, due to sanctions) then it must pan out?

Might be this money is a punishment for our government? As in an indirect way of telling them they are cunts who have to pay for the inequality they are causing and the hardship they have forced onto some of the most vulnerable in society? That's what I wish it was anyway.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Rompuy's revenge?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is were Cameron stands firm and says fuck you

He's hardly going to do that is he. He'll be looking for a cushy EU job when he's finished shafting the UK."

Like the Kinnocks and Mandelsons

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By *he_tykiesCouple
over a year ago

West Yorkshire.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"This is were Cameron stands firm and says fuck you

He's hardly going to do that is he. He'll be looking for a cushy EU job when he's finished shafting the UK.

Like the Kinnocks and Mandelsons

Exactly.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost

How?

Where have you been for the last 10 years or so???

The biggest worry is Labour still can't see anything wrong with this...

Was just asking. Gideon has borrowed more though so it must work?"

It doesn't work, it's just like a wonga customer. We are now stuck in a vicious circle that is almost impossible to get out of...

Labour can't help themselves, they have got to spend spend spend... Like druggies they needed the cash so they sold off all the gold cheap...

Don't get me wrong the Tories are far from perfect...

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Spendingisn't a problem if you spend on investment.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

well well well ,maybe this is another party broadcast to convince us all that nigel of ukip is the man ,how much more ammo does this ukip party need to win us all over.cameron a weak weak leader with no balls at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost

How?

Where have you been for the last 10 years or so???

The biggest worry is Labour still can't see anything wrong with this...

Was just asking. Gideon has borrowed more though so it must work?

It doesn't work, it's just like a wonga customer. We are now stuck in a vicious circle that is almost impossible to get out of...

Labour can't help themselves, they have got to spend spend spend... Like druggies they needed the cash so they sold off all the gold cheap...

Don't get me wrong the Tories are far from perfect..."

Hmm ok. Hardly any politics makes sense to me if I'm honest.

I'm voting green again. Not impressed with any if the main parties at all.

We could do with a poor/old fashioned people's party, one where people have old fashioned scrimping skills and the knowledge on how to fix things yourself. And they know a bargain when they see one so don't waste money. And are strict enough to say no to the mega-wealthy when they want bailouts. A party that doesn't let naughty kids misbehave or act like spoilt, entitled brats.

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"Yes it seems there is a link between revenues raised and contributions paid to the EU. "

Yes, an the 'revenues raised', or economic growth figures, now include the 'black economy' i.e. drugs and prostitution.

It's complete bollocks and even more amazing is that no-one at The Treasury appears to have been aware of this.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

Yes, an the 'revenues raised', or economic growth figures, now include the 'black economy' i.e. drugs and prostitution.

According to the EU or the Tories?

Since when is prostitution a black economy? I thought it was legal?

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By *he_tykiesCouple
over a year ago

West Yorkshire.

"well well well ,maybe this is another party broadcast to convince us all that nigel of ukip is the man ,how much more ammo does this ukip party need to win us all over.cameron a weak weak leader with no balls at all "

Good job he hasnt got balls, Ed Balls that is, as his chancellor, we would be in even deeper shit than we are now!!!

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By *atasha_DavidCouple
over a year ago

Slough

In 1984 Britain negotiated a rebate of two-thirds in its net contribution, to be paid by other EU members, currently almost half of this is paid by France, on the grounds that as a relatively poor member state it paid too much and received relatively little in return as most EU spending was on agricultural support measures.

The size of member states' payments to the EU budget is broadly dependent on the size of their economy. This is because the largest component of each country's contribution is a flat payment equivalent to a fixed proportion of its gross national income (GNI) - 0.59% in 2007.

There are some variations however. Thanks to its rebate, the UK pays less as a percentage of its GNI to the EU than any other member state.

FFS we pay less than Greece and their economy is virtually bankrupt

I suggest Cameron stops being such a slacker and starts to pay his way rather than living of the hard work of others.

I mean to tell that to the unemployed and then not practice it himself would be hypocritical and a Tory PM would never be that. Would they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have to confess this is all* Labour's fault.

* almost"
Labours fault my arse it was Major that signed up to this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Politics. A way to make the people feel they are in control when they are not.

Best way to tackle it? Nobody vote, at all. Then the people get the power not the idiots who really know naff all about what life is.

Miss Jay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cameron has just announced on his Facebook page that he will not be paying it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If only Guy Fawkes had succeeded

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Cameron has just announced on his Facebook page that he will not be paying it."

he's not being wrong then..

he wont..

we will..

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

So what do we pay anyway 8.6 billion? We are being bled dry, borders are a free for all, NHS down the pan, people cannot afford basics and we have to pay extra...what a fucking crock of shit.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"If only Guy Fawkes had succeeded

then ideally as far as the plotters were concerned we would have a had a catholic supremacy and probably decades of 'religious' wars..

not sure they were looking to change the system, just which brand of deity idolising held the power..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cameron has just announced on his Facebook page that he will not be paying it.

he's not being wrong then..

he wont..

we will.."

Pedant

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

It's all crazy, how on earth can we pay Europe all that money plus all the money we give other countries, we have people on the breadline here, food banks, kids going to school without breakfast etc

If you were hugely overdrawn with credit cards the last thing you need to be doing is giving money away, for whatever reasons there are and however good they are. ! Simples !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cool when they send the bailiffs round can we have a referendum on what they seize. Can't be the car industry already sold that to Germany can't be infrastructure or power French own that. Post office? Oh no Cameron just sold that for a 16billion loss. How about they hold all politicians hostage till we find the cash??

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Cameron has just announced on his Facebook page that he will not be paying it.

he's not being wrong then..

he wont..

we will..

Pedant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If only Guy Fawkes had succeeded

then ideally as far as the plotters were concerned we would have a had a catholic supremacy and probably decades of 'religious' wars..

not sure they were looking to change the system, just which brand of deity idolising held the power.. "

Religious wars!! We're stuck in a religious war now.

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

So those that are slowly succeeding in pulling themselves through the financial crisis. Have to pay huge chunks of money to those that have fucked it up completely and end up exactly where they are aswell?

We are not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but my god the EU is really making it hard to see the advantages of staying in.

Immigration dumping ground for the EU = being held dry.

More successful financial recovery = bigger contribution to EU = being bled dry.

I don't see anything in it other than the UK citizen facing more hardship because of it.

It doesn't make sense that these countries that are getting it so wrong are allowed to dictate that we all suffer for their fuckups aswell. But heyho labour and Tories alike will continue being the whipping boys of Europe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's all a scam. Scam artist fighting over who's scam is the best

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If only Guy Fawkes had succeeded

then ideally as far as the plotters were concerned we would have a had a catholic supremacy and probably decades of 'religious' wars..

not sure they were looking to change the system, just which brand of deity idolising held the power..

Religious wars!! We're stuck in a religious war now. "

And we got on better when there only ever was one religion, Catholicism

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If only Guy Fawkes had succeeded

then ideally as far as the plotters were concerned we would have a had a catholic supremacy and probably decades of 'religious' wars..

not sure they were looking to change the system, just which brand of deity idolising held the power..

Religious wars!! We're stuck in a religious war now. "

No we're not. Terrorists just want to portray it as such...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religious wars!! We're stuck in a religious war now.

And we got on better when there only ever was one religion, Catholicism"

The Druids were not so keen on it though...

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"Cameron has just announced on his Facebook page that he will not be paying it."

So he IS going to then.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Cameron has just announced on his Facebook page that he will not be paying it.

So he IS going to then."

He said he wouldn't pay on the due date.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Facebook ? Bloody Facebook

Mrs T would turn in her grave

The PM should not be playing on Facemuck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cameron has just announced on his Facebook page that he will not be paying it.

So he IS going to then.

He said he wouldn't pay on the due date."

That's what many are assuming. I guess we'll see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"this goes back to '95 so the irony is that Brown was the Chancellor for a large part of the period that this applies to..

yes he made mistakes as has this latest one..

the IMF figures on GDP from the time he was Chancellor to just before the global financial crash were something that this present guy has yet to achieve..

on borrowing, anyone care to say what it is now and forecast to be for several yrs yet?

some times one would think were are living in a land of milk and honey..

its only gong to get tougher no matter who is in office..

Your right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cameron has timed his outburst just in time to help the Tories in their Rochester fight with UKIP.

This money demanded is within European Commission rules, Osbourne knew the amount on Tuesday at the latest, they all knew it was coming. Some suggest Cameron knew about this 5 months ago!

Cameron isn't actually refusing to pay the bill. It does seem a little stage managed to me.

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