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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again." point proven I think | |||
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"As im not as quick at typing in the chatrooms to keep up i find the forums a great place to get to know someones personality and sense of humour xxx Lois xxx" I`m the same as you! I find the chatroom confusing ( and being here allows thinking time! Also, being a single guy, anything extra I can do to show my personality more has to be good. | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. point proven I think " to prove your case in an instant , without any evidence was a masterpiece next time i need a solicitor please expect a phone call | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. point proven I think to prove your case in an instant , without any evidence was a masterpiece next time i need a solicitor please expect a phone call " Thank you, but I think we all know these forums are very cliquey indeed, same people, same posts.... any wonder why people dont want to visit!! some one new makes a valid comment and they are ignored, a regular comes out with some inane rubbish and it becomes the subject of 20+ replies... | |||
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" Thank you, but I think we all know these forums are very cliquey indeed, same people, same posts.... any wonder why people dont want to visit!! some one new makes a valid comment and they are ignored, a regular comes out with some inane rubbish and it becomes the subject of 20+ replies... " Are you talking about the forums or the chatrooms? | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again." Sadly, my initial thought when I read the OP! | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. point proven I think to prove your case in an instant , without any evidence was a masterpiece next time i need a solicitor please expect a phone call Thank you, but I think we all know these forums are very cliquey indeed, same people, same posts.... any wonder why people dont want to visit!! some one new makes a valid comment and they are ignored, a regular comes out with some inane rubbish and it becomes the subject of 20+ replies... " if you belong to a golf club and get to know a few people , as some on here do when they visit swinging clubs etc , thats life so then as a golf player you go on a nationwide golf site and see a few of your mates posting in the forums what are you supposed to do , ignore them ? of course you get cliquey posts oh here what would you do if a buddy you met with at a club 2 days ago starts a thread saying what should i have for breakfast my bet is you would put a reply in saying something like "have a sausage like you did the other day HA HA HA" life is not fair the threads are not fair just get on with it like i do hey .............. thats kinda funny swinging club vs golf club same thing really | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. point proven I think to prove your case in an instant , without any evidence was a masterpiece next time i need a solicitor please expect a phone call Thank you, but I think we all know these forums are very cliquey indeed, same people, same posts.... any wonder why people dont want to visit!! some one new makes a valid comment and they are ignored, a regular comes out with some inane rubbish and it becomes the subject of 20+ replies... if you belong to a golf club and get to know a few people , as some on here do when they visit swinging clubs etc , thats life so then as a golf player you go on a nationwide golf site and see a few of your mates posting in the forums what are you supposed to do , ignore them ? of course you get cliquey posts oh here what would you do if a buddy you met with at a club 2 days ago starts a thread saying what should i have for breakfast my bet is you would put a reply in saying something like "have a sausage like you did the other day HA HA HA" life is not fair the threads are not fair just get on with it like i do hey .............. thats kinda funny swinging club vs golf club same thing really" i will get on with it, like i said, only visit to read the inane crap | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. point proven I think to prove your case in an instant , without any evidence was a masterpiece next time i need a solicitor please expect a phone call Thank you, but I think we all know these forums are very cliquey indeed, same people, same posts.... any wonder why people dont want to visit!! some one new makes a valid comment and they are ignored, a regular comes out with some inane rubbish and it becomes the subject of 20+ replies... if you belong to a golf club and get to know a few people , as some on here do when they visit swinging clubs etc , thats life so then as a golf player you go on a nationwide golf site and see a few of your mates posting in the forums what are you supposed to do , ignore them ? of course you get cliquey posts oh here what would you do if a buddy you met with at a club 2 days ago starts a thread saying what should i have for breakfast my bet is you would put a reply in saying something like "have a sausage like you did the other day HA HA HA" life is not fair the threads are not fair just get on with it like i do hey .............. thats kinda funny swinging club vs golf club same thing really i will get on with it, like i said, only visit to read the inane crap " fill your boots there is a plethora on here | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. point proven I think to prove your case in an instant , without any evidence was a masterpiece next time i need a solicitor please expect a phone call Thank you, but I think we all know these forums are very cliquey indeed, same people, same posts.... any wonder why people dont want to visit!! some one new makes a valid comment and they are ignored, a regular comes out with some inane rubbish and it becomes the subject of 20+ replies... if you belong to a golf club and get to know a few people , as some on here do when they visit swinging clubs etc , thats life so then as a golf player you go on a nationwide golf site and see a few of your mates posting in the forums what are you supposed to do , ignore them ? of course you get cliquey posts oh here what would you do if a buddy you met with at a club 2 days ago starts a thread saying what should i have for breakfast my bet is you would put a reply in saying something like "have a sausage like you did the other day HA HA HA" life is not fair the threads are not fair just get on with it like i do hey .............. thats kinda funny swinging club vs golf club same thing really i will get on with it, like i said, only visit to read the inane crap fill your boots there is a plethora on here " ohhh yes, noticed that already and also how easily some people get wound up | |||
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"ohhh yes, noticed that already and also how easily some people get wound up " | |||
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"If you like winding people up so much just make sure you don't mind the backlash from it" | |||
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"If you like winding people up so much just make sure you don't mind the backlash from it " You may find though that winding people up isn't a good way to get on with folk and is no way to be "learning the ropes and seeking advice" as you put on another forum. Again, just my opinion. | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again." Totally true.there are the regular dick or dicketts(no pun intended!!)who in there self given dictatorship assume they are in control of this fine way of chatting/meeting genuine down to earth lovely peeps. | |||
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"If you like winding people up so much just make sure you don't mind the backlash from it You may find though that winding people up isn't a good way to get on with folk and is no way to be "learning the ropes and seeking advice" as you put on another forum. Again, just my opinion. " opinion noted, but forums (as i have found out) are not really the place to meet people (see previous posts) think the responses that we have recieved from what are actually perfectly normal questions determine the usual trait of the forums... in fact in the space of about an hour i have learnt quite a lot and i do actually sincerely thank you all | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. Totally true.there are the regular dick or dicketts(no pun intended!!)who in there self given dictatorship assume they are in control of this fine way of chatting/meeting genuine down to earth lovely peeps." thank you | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. Totally true.there are the regular dick or dicketts(no pun intended!!)who in there self given dictatorship assume they are in control of this fine way of chatting/meeting genuine down to earth lovely peeps." So all the regulars are dicks or dicketts? How nice | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. point proven I think to prove your case in an instant , without any evidence was a masterpiece next time i need a solicitor please expect a phone call Thank you, but I think we all know these forums are very cliquey indeed, same people, same posts.... any wonder why people dont want to visit!! some one new makes a valid comment and they are ignored, a regular comes out with some inane rubbish and it becomes the subject of 20+ replies... " AS i said the dictatorship!! | |||
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"If you like winding people up so much just make sure you don't mind the backlash from it You may find though that winding people up isn't a good way to get on with folk and is no way to be "learning the ropes and seeking advice" as you put on another forum. Again, just my opinion. opinion noted, but forums (as i have found out) are not really the place to meet people (see previous posts) think the responses that we have recieved from what are actually perfectly normal questions determine the usual trait of the forums... in fact in the space of about an hour i have learnt quite a lot and i do actually sincerely thank you all " I was meaning start chatting then if progression within the chat amounts to a nice and worth while meet then brill. | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. point proven I think to prove your case in an instant , without any evidence was a masterpiece next time i need a solicitor please expect a phone call Thank you, but I think we all know these forums are very cliquey indeed, same people, same posts.... any wonder why people dont want to visit!! some one new makes a valid comment and they are ignored, a regular comes out with some inane rubbish and it becomes the subject of 20+ replies... AS i said the dictatorship!!" AS i said, thankyou | |||
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"Think people do know the site exists and do visit it, but we find it cand be very cliquey on these forums.... hence they do not post or visit again. Totally true.there are the regular dick or dicketts(no pun intended!!)who in there self given dictatorship assume they are in control of this fine way of chatting/meeting genuine down to earth lovely peeps. So all the regulars are dicks or dicketts? How nice " Sorry,i very much should have said the word some users!.x | |||
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"Why we all cant just get along amazes the hell out of me xx " Totally agree, there seems to be a hell of a lot of posts criticising the regular posters recently without whom the forums would be deathly quiet! | |||
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"Why we all cant just get along amazes the hell out of me xx " we can, just amazed how a simple question or honest comment results in a tirade of negativity, surely comments are for ALL opinions, not just the opinions of the 'regulars' think this whole thread has answered the initial question of why people do not visit or post in these forums... | |||
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"Why we all cant just get along amazes the hell out of me xx " errrr because were human and we need to pick on people- not me you understand just the lesser mortals | |||
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"Why we all cant just get along amazes the hell out of me xx " yes as this seems to be the 3rd post ive read where a general question results in snideness and i was leaving a comment on one forum post, clicked save only to find it had been closed by the moderators bloody quick they are, nothing gets passed their razor sharp wit and X-ray eyes | |||
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"Why we all cant just get along amazes the hell out of me xx " Again from soapy-suds,right behind you on that last statement(not as it sounds!!!) | |||
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"Why we all cant just get along amazes the hell out of me xx Totally agree, there seems to be a hell of a lot of posts criticising the regular posters recently without whom the forums would be deathly quiet! " Might br quiet for that very reason??? | |||
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"Why we all cant just get along amazes the hell out of me xx Totally agree, there seems to be a hell of a lot of posts criticising the regular posters recently without whom the forums would be deathly quiet! " ooops didnt see your comment-SNAP | |||
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"I have to say that i for one welcome new posters to the forums ....but i would like to add that i cant help notice the latest trend of "regular forum poster bashing" lately. " If its becoming regular then does that not indicate an element of truth? not a criticism, just an observation! | |||
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"Why we all cant just get along amazes the hell out of me xx Totally agree, there seems to be a hell of a lot of posts criticising the regular posters recently without whom the forums would be deathly quiet! ooops didnt see your comment-SNAP " That's ok my post was hidden among all of the other posts and easily missed | |||
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"I have to say that i for one welcome new posters to the forums ....but i would like to add that i cant help notice the latest trend of "regular forum poster bashing" lately. If its becoming regular then does that not indicate an element of truth? not a criticism, just an observation!" Observation noted and filed , everyone is entitled to their opinion, i for one will continue to post as i normally do, some think newbies get a hard time, ive been on these forums a long time, seen people come and go and come back again. Its easier for newbies to post than it ever was, look back in old threads and you will see for yourself, it has been generally a nicer place in recent months, but i must say that there has been a noticable increase in bitching and sniping in the last two weeks or so | |||
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"I have to say that i for one welcome new posters to the forums ....but i would like to add that i cant help notice the latest trend of "regular forum poster bashing" lately. If its becoming regular then does that not indicate an element of truth? not a criticism, just an observation!Observation noted and filed , everyone is entitled to their opinion, i for one will continue to post as i normally do, some think newbies get a hard time, ive been on these forums a long time, seen people come and go and come back again. Its easier for newbies to post than it ever was, look back in old threads and you will see for yourself, it has been generally a nicer place in recent months, but i must say that there has been a noticable increase in bitching and sniping in the last two weeks or so " Thank you, comments noted and filed, thank you so much for allowing us 'newbies' to join in, it is appreciated and we are all indebted to you, like i said, no bitching from us 'newbies' just a question, but obviously questions that touch a nerve are deemed as sniping and bitching... but once again thank you | |||
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"I have to say that i for one welcome new posters to the forums ....but i would like to add that i cant help notice the latest trend of "regular forum poster bashing" lately. If its becoming regular then does that not indicate an element of truth? not a criticism, just an observation!Observation noted and filed , everyone is entitled to their opinion, i for one will continue to post as i normally do, some think newbies get a hard time, ive been on these forums a long time, seen people come and go and come back again. Its easier for newbies to post than it ever was, look back in old threads and you will see for yourself, it has been generally a nicer place in recent months, but i must say that there has been a noticable increase in bitching and sniping in the last two weeks or so Thank you, comments noted and filed, thank you so much for allowing us 'newbies' to join in, it is appreciated and we are all indebted to you, like i said, no bitching from us 'newbies' just a question, but obviously questions that touch a nerve are deemed as sniping and bitching... but once again thank you " Sarcasm noted and filed ...thank you | |||
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"I have to say that i for one welcome new posters to the forums ....but i would like to add that i cant help notice the latest trend of "regular forum poster bashing" lately. If its becoming regular then does that not indicate an element of truth? not a criticism, just an observation!Observation noted and filed , everyone is entitled to their opinion, i for one will continue to post as i normally do, some think newbies get a hard time, ive been on these forums a long time, seen people come and go and come back again. Its easier for newbies to post than it ever was, look back in old threads and you will see for yourself, it has been generally a nicer place in recent months, but i must say that there has been a noticable increase in bitching and sniping in the last two weeks or so Thank you, comments noted and filed, thank you so much for allowing us 'newbies' to join in, it is appreciated and we are all indebted to you, like i said, no bitching from us 'newbies' just a question, but obviously questions that touch a nerve are deemed as sniping and bitching... but once again thank you Sarcasm noted and filed ...thank you " | |||
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"I have to say that i for one welcome new posters to the forums ....but i would like to add that i cant help notice the latest trend of "regular forum poster bashing" lately. If its becoming regular then does that not indicate an element of truth? not a criticism, just an observation!Observation noted and filed , everyone is entitled to their opinion, i for one will continue to post as i normally do, some think newbies get a hard time, ive been on these forums a long time, seen people come and go and come back again. Its easier for newbies to post than it ever was, look back in old threads and you will see for yourself, it has been generally a nicer place in recent months, but i must say that there has been a noticable increase in bitching and sniping in the last two weeks or so " Perhaps its because the kids are off school for the next 6 weeks are some folks are stressed Ive also noticed that there has been an increase in youngsters sending me messages over the last couple of weeks, like they've time on their hands yet they are not school age, if that makes sense | |||
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"My perception of the word 'clique' is that it is used as a critical term, and its use always makes me angry. This is because my experience on this site, in my opinion, is absolute proof that no clique exists. In less than 3 months of posting I felt able to attend a social to meet some of the regular posters. Surely if it was a clique, I'd have been pushed away (plus as a single male, I'm not exactly the most welcome category)? That was about six months ago. Clique? Bollocks....." Here here lol i agree (not sure about the clicky bollocks thou i would get them seen too xx) | |||
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" (not sure about the clicky bollocks thou i would get them seen too xx) " I'll name that tune in 5 | |||
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"The amount of people on this site who dont visit or use the forums.... We have met quite a few couples who when asked, didn't even realise there was such a popular forum on here !. We have now made a point of when meeting couples etc to just metion that they do exist and can be just as good a place to get to know/meet someone as any cam room or sometimes even clubs !" I used to work in online community management. The expected figures for a community percentage to use a forum is approx 3%. the amount to visit occasionally is 8%. This barely even changes from community to community - you'll find the same % from video games, to second life, to bakery to swinging. People, generally, do not like forums, this is an absolute given. Especially when it's "tacked on" to a site with use, such as this. This is also the reason why if you read any given thread here, you'll see the same 10-15 people posting all day, all the time, to every thread. | |||
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"Why we all cant just get along amazes the hell out of me xx Totally agree, there seems to be a hell of a lot of posts criticising the regular posters recently without whom the forums would be deathly quiet! " perhaps if you were more welcoming to new posters and less critical of their submissions this wouldnt be the case | |||
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"Why we all cant just get along amazes the hell out of me xx Totally agree, there seems to be a hell of a lot of posts criticising the regular posters recently without whom the forums would be deathly quiet! perhaps if you were more welcoming to new posters and less critical of their submissions this wouldnt be the case " Yet again - point proven! I think you will find I am quite a welcoming person, help folk out when asked, etc, etc, etc. But hey no worries you are entitled to your own opinion and I won't be losing any sleep over it! | |||
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"I wouldn't call it cliquey as such.. people like to thrown around that word a lot.... the way I would describe this place is something akin to a pub.... where the regulars tend to know and interact and bounce off each other...... so if you were new and you went into a pub you wouldn't complain that it was cliquey because people didn't talk to you straight away.... you would take ya time to get yourself known a little this place is no different....." If this were a pub, the newbie would walk in and order a pint and the regulars would form a line and yell "DONT DRINK THAT, WE DONT, YOU MUST DRINK WHAT WE ALL SAY" All communities are cliquey, it's human nature. If you don't think there's a clique, it's usually because you are part of it. | |||
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"I wouldn't call it cliquey as such.. people like to thrown around that word a lot.... the way I would describe this place is something akin to a pub.... where the regulars tend to know and interact and bounce off each other...... so if you were new and you went into a pub you wouldn't complain that it was cliquey because people didn't talk to you straight away.... you would take ya time to get yourself known a little this place is no different....." . Agree. And there will always be those who sit in the corner without making any effort to mingle, and then complain they have been ignored. It is daunting for a newbie to join an extablished social group, in real life and in the forums such as this one. Efforts must be made by the newbie in order to be successful. Sitting in the corner and sulk will get you nowhere! | |||
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"And if you do think there is a clique its because you feel you are'nt a part of it and the whole thing goes round in a circle forever and ever amen" Exactly, it's human nature to either a) feel like part of a select group or b) to feel like an outsider. | |||
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"If this were a pub, the newbie would walk in and order a pint and the regulars would form a line and yell "DONT DRINK THAT, WE DONT, YOU MUST DRINK WHAT WE ALL SAY" All communities are cliquey, it's human nature. If you don't think there's a clique, it's usually because you are part of it." . If one asks for an opinion, he/she bounds to get different opinion from different people. At the end of the day, it is down an individual to decide what is right and not right for him/her. If he/she does not like the opinions on offer, then he/she should not have asked for it in the first place! I am not in a clique, however, I gel better with some than the others for certain, as they are more appealing to me. And that is human nature! IMHO! | |||
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"And if you do think there is a clique its because you feel you are'nt a part of it and the whole thing goes round in a circle forever and ever amen Exactly, it's human nature to either a) feel like part of a select group or b) to feel like an outsider. " Oh I left a post for you on the "excited" thread in swingers chat about that club in Cambridge,you may be interested..........or not | |||
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"Oh I left a post for you on the "excited" thread in swingers chat about that club in Cambridge,you may be interested..........or not" Oh, thank you, will nip over and read it. | |||
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"To throw a little spanner in the works, wouldn't the forums be boring if everyone agreed with everyone else. The diversity and differing opinions of people make the forums " . Well said! | |||
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"The forums are no different to any social groups in real life. Some members gel better with others, and those who do not gel well will feel they are outsiders. Those who do not gel well and claim it is due to cliques on here are usually those who do not have much of a online personality to speak of. Always negative, argumentative, opinionated, condecending, etc., and at worst, downright rude!!! Always the victum without any hint of irony. Quick to dish out the dirt, yet all hell breaks loose when the table is turned. If one cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen I'd say! " Just playing Devils Advocate here, but the original OP was asking why dont people use the forums... the issue of Cliques has obviously been raised before (see previous threads) so that alone would indicate that there must be a strong perception out there in 'FAB land' that the chat rooms and forums are indeed cliquey.... There is also evidence that when someone who does not post on a regular basis actually does post a valid and sensible question they are sometimes dismissed as irrelevant and the thread is then 'hi-jacked' by the regular posters. Could there also the perception that the people who deny there is a clique are the ones whos Avatar are always appearing on the threads?. also the perception that those who dare to raise the issue of cliques are socially inadequate can be percieved as somewhat condecening and opinionated in itself | |||
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" also the perception that those who dare to raise the issue of cliques are socially inadequate can be percieved as somewhat condecening and opinionated in itself " Well there's certainly not a lack of *that* in the regulars around here! | |||
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" also the perception that those who dare to raise the issue of cliques are socially inadequate can be percieved as somewhat condecening and opinionated in itself " . I would go as far as to say it is the division of introverts and extroverts, and the extroverts are naturally more socially adequate than the introverts. Condecending and opinionated? No, just stating what I believe are facts that extroverts are more socially adequate, and that they are also more likely to be happy sunny people who do not moan as much when things do not go their way! | |||
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"Ooo, I forgot to mention, there are people who hide behind their online persona and appear to be bigger than they really are in real life. They may be gobby, opinionated and argumentative on forums, yet they are really mousey in real life. It is easier to hide one's social inadequacy before an online persona IMHO. " On the internet noone knows you are a dog. Unless you've got photos and verifications. | |||
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"Is it safe to come out yet? Or is it Thursday? . Come out and play! Or are you sunning it down at Eureka's? " LOL Was working all weekend But we all go together and worked through to gone midnight last night and now I have a day free! Missed half the morning though :S Was looking to have lunch with a friend but she seems to be out so planing my free day from here. And see all, I have not posted for ages, just been lurking, and immediate responses! Or does that prove the point? LOL | |||
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"LOL Was working all weekend But we all go together and worked through to gone midnight last night and now I have a day free! Missed half the morning though :S Was looking to have lunch with a friend but she seems to be out so planing my free day from here. And see all, I have not posted for ages, just been lurking, and immediate responses! Or does that prove the point? LOL " . It proves you are held with high regards by some of us on here, that's all! | |||
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"All the regs stop posting then and let all the newbies become the regs,and see how long it takes for newer newbies to come in and start moaning about cliques and criticism and anything else that gets up their nose about the forums " . As you said early, who goes round, comes around, very true!!! | |||
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" also the perception that those who dare to raise the issue of cliques are socially inadequate can be percieved as somewhat condecening and opinionated in itself . I would go as far as to say it is the division of introverts and extroverts, and the extroverts are naturally more socially adequate than the introverts. Condecending and opinionated? No, just stating what I believe are facts that extroverts are more socially adequate, and that they are also more likely to be happy sunny people who do not moan as much when things do not go their way! " I think that finally the original OP has been answered... you either run with the pack or you are left behind and that is why the take up in the forums can be minimal as it is very much survival of the fittest and no-one likes to fail, so why try. | |||
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" . It proves you are held with high regards by some of us on here, that's all! " Thank you in the post. xx I think most people understand it, just not all people think about it. Go to a pub for the first time on your own and you know no-one. If you are female and dressed up you will get attention, if you are male you are a wall flower until you get up and make the effort. Different people have different results and its about personality/looks/timing/luck/attitude. If people at the 'pub' have had shared experiences its easy for it to be seen as clique, as we all like to group with friends. It seems here we are arguing in agreement today LOL. | |||
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" If you are female and dressed up you will get attention..." . I stand out without making much effort, especially when I walk up to the bar and ask for a pint of bitter, usually the strongest on offer too! And peeps at the bar would start talking to me! | |||
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" also the perception that those who dare to raise the issue of cliques are socially inadequate can be percieved as somewhat condecening and opinionated in itself . I would go as far as to say it is the division of introverts and extroverts, and the extroverts are naturally more socially adequate than the introverts. Condecending and opinionated? No, just stating what I believe are facts that extroverts are more socially adequate, and that they are also more likely to be happy sunny people who do not moan as much when things do not go their way! I think that finally the original OP has been answered... you either run with the pack or you are left behind and that is why the take up in the forums can be minimal as it is very much survival of the fittest and no-one likes to fail, so why try. " Utter rubbish. The forum use on this site is pretty much the norm for swinging sites. People can only feel like they have failed if they have come along with an agenda and a goal. If your only aim is to post an honest answer then you have achieved your goal as soon as you hit the submit button. | |||
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" Just playing Devils Advocate here, but the original OP was asking why dont people use the forums... the issue of Cliques has obviously been raised before (see previous threads) so that alone would indicate that there must be a strong perception out there in 'FAB land' that the chat rooms and forums are indeed cliquey.... There is also evidence that when someone who does not post on a regular basis actually does post a valid and sensible question they are sometimes dismissed as irrelevant and the thread is then 'hi-jacked' by the regular posters. Could there also the perception that the people who deny there is a clique are the ones whos Avatar are always appearing on the threads?. also the perception that those who dare to raise the issue of cliques are socially inadequate can be percieved as somewhat condecening and opinionated in itself " I agree to a certain degree on a couple of points. Not every newbie gets a good reaction when posting a question that is valid to them... BUT having said that, it used to be much worse than an odd piss take. I don't agree with saying that the people who complain about about cliques are socially inadequate, BUT the impression I get is.....they think someone owes them chat on the forums or in chat. The amount of times I have seen people say "hello" in chat and then nothing else for ten minutes not even to say hello back to the people who spoke to them and then the next sentance they write is " it is cliquey in here" The same goes for the forums, if no one answers someones post they say the same thing. When I first started using chat rooms, I quickly learnt that if I didn't butt into peoples conversations and join in then I wouldn't be noticed , so thats what I did. Sitting on the sidelines saying nothing or just an odd hello and then complaining no one speaks to you just gets you noticed as a whinger. Who wants to mix with moaners? The same goes for the forums, unless you butt in and join in then others won't notice you as much as the people who post a lot. No one can force anyone to post, but if they don't post no one will know they are there. All the regulars were new once, but they have managed to join in and have fun, I really don't know why other people can't if they want to. | |||
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" The same goes for the forums, unless you butt in and join in then others won't notice you as much as the people who post a lot. No one can force anyone to post, but if they don't post no one will know they are there. All the regulars were new once, but they have managed to join in and have fun, I really don't know why other people can't if they want to. " . Well said! | |||
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"All the regs stop posting then and let all the newbies become the regs,and see how long it takes for newer newbies to come in and start moaning about cliques and criticism and anything else that gets up their nose about the forums " I would do this if everyone else did for lets say a week.. just to prove a point.... what people then to forget at times is that you need a certain amount of regulars to keep a forum ticking over... otherwise it is the same questions and whinges that happen again and again and again..... like being a regular is a bad thing..... look... if I have an opinion on a subject I'll answer it, not because I am regular, because I feel passionate enough to reply, or I feel that I can add to a topic, or disagree and can bring some reasoning to that........ the clique card gets played too often.... the victim card gets played too often.... and just because someone disagrees with a position you have too many people are quick to hit the block button as well.... if this place was full of sheep agreeing and following people.... and if it because fluffy for want of a better word i would walk..... | |||
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" I think that finally the original OP has been answered... you either run with the pack or you are left behind and that is why the take up in the forums can be minimal as it is very much survival of the fittest and no-one likes to fail, so why try. " No. Its, run with the pack, get left behind if you cant keep up and want (but would you be a lemming?), OR fuck of and do your own thing as you don't want to follow the pack! If I want to go my own way, I do; If the pack comes to me, fine; If the pack is going a way and I am interested, I may follow on my own, I may join for a while. Its never in or out, never black and white. And what appears to be a pack is actually a lot of smaller groups in one place, you can even form your own pack. (this it turning into a ramble so am stopping here! LOL) | |||
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" If you are female and dressed up you will get attention... . I stand out without making much effort, especially when I walk up to the bar and ask for a pint of bitter, usually the strongest on offer too! And peeps at the bar would start talking to me! " Thats true even without the beer! LOL | |||
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"The one thing I have noticed, chat or forum, it helps if you can type quickly! Thats a skill to practice. LOL" Yes I need lots of practise.lol. And I am not scarey ,Laine. | |||
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" Just playing Devils Advocate here, but the original OP was asking why dont people use the forums... the issue of Cliques has obviously been raised before (see previous threads) so that alone would indicate that there must be a strong perception out there in 'FAB land' that the chat rooms and forums are indeed cliquey.... There is also evidence that when someone who does not post on a regular basis actually does post a valid and sensible question they are sometimes dismissed as irrelevant and the thread is then 'hi-jacked' by the regular posters. Could there also the perception that the people who deny there is a clique are the ones whos Avatar are always appearing on the threads?. also the perception that those who dare to raise the issue of cliques are socially inadequate can be percieved as somewhat condecening and opinionated in itself I agree to a certain degree on a couple of points. Not every newbie gets a good reaction when posting a question that is valid to them... BUT having said that, it used to be much worse than an odd piss take. I don't agree with saying that the people who complain about about cliques are socially inadequate, BUT the impression I get is.....they think someone owes them chat on the forums or in chat. The amount of times I have seen people say "hello" in chat and then nothing else for ten minutes not even to say hello back to the people who spoke to them and then the next sentance they write is " it is cliquey in here" The same goes for the forums, if no one answers someones post they say the same thing. When I first started using chat rooms, I quickly learnt that if I didn't butt into peoples conversations and join in then I wouldn't be noticed , so thats what I did. Sitting on the sidelines saying nothing or just an odd hello and then complaining no one speaks to you just gets you noticed as a whinger. Who wants to mix with moaners? The same goes for the forums, unless you butt in and join in then others won't notice you as much as the people who post a lot. No one can force anyone to post, but if they don't post no one will know they are there. All the regulars were new once, but they have managed to join in and have fun, I really don't know why other people can't if they want to. " Who said that ? | |||
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"I have to say that i for one welcome new posters to the forums ....but i would like to add that i cant help notice the latest trend of "regular forum poster bashing" lately. If its becoming regular then does that not indicate an element of truth? not a criticism, just an observation!" i now understand from what you have said the type of person you are the type that assumes because the nazis bashed the jews on a regular basis , there must have been "truth" in what they said about them by your own admission you seem to take great relish in winding people up congratulations to you for winding us up to the point we have both been in tears , it will take us a long time to remove the pain your wicked tounge lashing has left on us but the scars will remain for an eternity | |||
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" Just playing Devils Advocate here, but the original OP was asking why dont people use the forums... the issue of Cliques has obviously been raised before (see previous threads) so that alone would indicate that there must be a strong perception out there in 'FAB land' that the chat rooms and forums are indeed cliquey.... There is also evidence that when someone who does not post on a regular basis actually does post a valid and sensible question they are sometimes dismissed as irrelevant and the thread is then 'hi-jacked' by the regular posters. Could there also the perception that the people who deny there is a clique are the ones whos Avatar are always appearing on the threads?. also the perception that those who dare to raise the issue of cliques are socially inadequate can be percieved as somewhat condecening and opinionated in itself I agree to a certain degree on a couple of points. Not every newbie gets a good reaction when posting a question that is valid to them... BUT having said that, it used to be much worse than an odd piss take. I don't agree with saying that the people who complain about about cliques are socially inadequate, BUT the impression I get is.....they think someone owes them chat on the forums or in chat. The amount of times I have seen people say "hello" in chat and then nothing else for ten minutes not even to say hello back to the people who spoke to them and then the next sentance they write is " it is cliquey in here" The same goes for the forums, if no one answers someones post they say the same thing. When I first started using chat rooms, I quickly learnt that if I didn't butt into peoples conversations and join in then I wouldn't be noticed , so thats what I did. Sitting on the sidelines saying nothing or just an odd hello and then complaining no one speaks to you just gets you noticed as a whinger. Who wants to mix with moaners? The same goes for the forums, unless you butt in and join in then others won't notice you as much as the people who post a lot. No one can force anyone to post, but if they don't post no one will know they are there. All the regulars were new once, but they have managed to join in and have fun, I really don't know why other people can't if they want to. Who said that ?" The voice of reason? | |||
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"I think the piss takers got bullied at school. Are you taking the piss?" Yep..even met this blooming scary one... xxxxx | |||
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" If you are female and dressed up you will get attention... . I stand out without making much effort, especially when I walk up to the bar and ask for a pint of bitter, usually the strongest on offer too! And peeps at the bar would start talking to me! Thats true even without the beer! LOL " . I take that as a compliment! | |||
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" Just playing Devils Advocate here, but the original OP was asking why dont people use the forums... the issue of Cliques has obviously been raised before (see previous threads) so that alone would indicate that there must be a strong perception out there in 'FAB land' that the chat rooms and forums are indeed cliquey.... There is also evidence that when someone who does not post on a regular basis actually does post a valid and sensible question they are sometimes dismissed as irrelevant and the thread is then 'hi-jacked' by the regular posters. Could there also the perception that the people who deny there is a clique are the ones whos Avatar are always appearing on the threads?. also the perception that those who dare to raise the issue of cliques are socially inadequate can be percieved as somewhat condecening and opinionated in itself I agree to a certain degree on a couple of points. Not every newbie gets a good reaction when posting a question that is valid to them... BUT having said that, it used to be much worse than an odd piss take. I don't agree with saying that the people who complain about about cliques are socially inadequate, BUT the impression I get is.....they think someone owes them chat on the forums or in chat. The amount of times I have seen people say "hello" in chat and then nothing else for ten minutes not even to say hello back to the people who spoke to them and then the next sentance they write is " it is cliquey in here" The same goes for the forums, if no one answers someones post they say the same thing. When I first started using chat rooms, I quickly learnt that if I didn't butt into peoples conversations and join in then I wouldn't be noticed , so thats what I did. Sitting on the sidelines saying nothing or just an odd hello and then complaining no one speaks to you just gets you noticed as a whinger. Who wants to mix with moaners? The same goes for the forums, unless you butt in and join in then others won't notice you as much as the people who post a lot. No one can force anyone to post, but if they don't post no one will know they are there. All the regulars were new once, but they have managed to join in and have fun, I really don't know why other people can't if they want to. Who said that ?" Me the newbie everyone ignores. I am going to stalk you now for not ignoring me | |||
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"I used to be a regular in the Scottish chatroom and I do mean regular, every night until the early hours of the morning. It started to go downhill with all the newbies coming in and moaning that it was just a clique and no one talked to them; but they never made the effort to chat to anyone either, they just moaned that everyone had missed them saying “hi”. If you walk into a crowded Pub and folk are deep in their own conversations they will miss you saying “hi” too, but would you go up to people you don’t know and moan at them for not hearing it? I think not! To get everyone involved and to make them feel welcome there was a Quiz that used to take place every Wednesday at 10pm for an hour or so in the Scotland room (it took hours of my spare time to make up the 30 questions) and it was a great laugh and everyone was invited to join in but you still got some of the newbies coming in and moaning that they felt left out because they couldn’t answer in time or that the regulars were quicker at typing! Some folk will just have to moan about anything! But some of the then newbies are now the regulars in there, so at least it worked to a certain degree. I stopped doing it when I had less time to get the question prepared for the next week and felt I didn’t want to go in just to be criticised by the newbies for leaving them out; it was started to get them involved, but hey you can’t please everyone, just like in the forums! Some are asking for the Quiz to be brought back, but we will see if, to be honest, I can be arsed to do it just to start to be criticised by the “new” newbies again! I have more fun now going into the chatroom and having a laugh with folk I have got to know, although some may need their ears cleaned out when they criticise my great singing! But then again singing along to old TV theme tunes is maybe wrong in itself, especially Thomas the Tank Engine (a friend’s favourite - honest Guv lol). The whole point of my “War & Peace” post above is to point out that even although the regulars do try to involve folk in the forums and chatrooms you are always going to get people who just don’t want to join in and have fun and would rather spend their time moaning! Right that’s my ramblings done for today! Who wants to have some fun? " Me please | |||
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"oooooo great ....hang on while I take the door off the latch and a cake crumb trail up to the bathroom !!!! I've e mailed you my home addy to save you time searching and the taxi money is under the coconut mat by the door..... READYYYYYYYYY !" Thats no fun, you are not meant to make it easy for me ! | |||
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"Right that’s my ramblings done for today! Who wants to have some fun? Me please " Right that's me sorted! The rest of you will just have to find your own fun now! | |||
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" .......although some may need their ears cleaned out when they criticise my great singing! " Bring back the quiz night. (and yer singing is shite) | |||
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"I think the piss takers got bullied at school. " Id have to disagree with that one, i was bullied in school and been all my life but id never ever dream of bullying someone on here or outside as i know how soul destroying it is and my low self esteem and lack of confidence are caused by these vile obnoxious people. The only thing i do now is avoid these people, I work part time shifts in a pub where ive been ridiculed which has been difficult at times but i need the money too much to give it up. | |||
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" .......although some may need their ears cleaned out when they criticise my great singing! Bring back the quiz night. (and yer singing is shite) " You Luv it really, it has its own unique style that even my own dog has to leave the room to appreciate! | |||
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"I think the piss takers got bullied at school. Id have to disagree with that one, i was bullied in school and been all my life but id never ever dream of bullying someone on here or outside as i know how soul destroying it is and my low self esteem and lack of confidence are caused by these vile obnoxious people. The only thing i do now is avoid these people, I work part time shifts in a pub where ive been ridiculed which has been difficult at times but i need the money too much to give it up. " I agree, I don't think that follows either. Piss taking is fine if you know it is going to be well recieved. Most people would call it banter when they give it out plus take it back. I think were it becomes a problem is when people use "banter /piss taking" on the people they either don't like or that you know can't take it. A good piss taker who is doing it for light hearted teasing will know when to stop. | |||
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"I think the piss takers got bullied at school. Id have to disagree with that one, i was bullied in school and been all my life but id never ever dream of bullying someone on here or outside as i know how soul destroying it is and my low self esteem and lack of confidence are caused by these vile obnoxious people. The only thing i do now is avoid these people, I work part time shifts in a pub where ive been ridiculed which has been difficult at times but i need the money too much to give it up. I agree, I don't think that follows either. Piss taking is fine if you know it is going to be well recieved. Most people would call it banter when they give it out plus take it back. I think were it becomes a problem is when people use "banter /piss taking" on the people they either don't like or that you know can't take it. A good piss taker who is doing it for light hearted teasing will know when to stop." . I don't either. I am lucky in that I have never been bullied ever since I arrived in this country as a foreigner back in 1979. I survived 4 years in a boarding school and 3 years in uni without any negativity towards me due to my race, sex, religious believes or whatever. There ia saying that one either comes out of boarding school as a total wreck or an egomaniac. I guess I am the latter!!! I have never liked bullies or people who like to jam their opinions down my throat. They can try, however, the result will not be pretty! I piss-take from time to time, however, I would like to believe I have the good grace and sense to know when to stop without causing offence. I am a good girl I am! | |||
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"I really enjoy the forums and have made some great acquaintances from here. I do find that some regular posters seem to shoot newbies down when they ask questions or state points that go against the norm or unwritten code or practice. Like when a person, mostly single gents like myself, speak of lack of meets. I just feel that maybe regular posters may offer advice as opposed to harsh replies. I would hate to see regular posters boycott the forums (some have been real honeypots to me!), but that is an individual choice. No denying the regular guys and girls have a good rapport with each other, instead of moaning we newbies (am I still one) should create the same with other" There is NO NORM or UNWRITTEN CODE of PRACTICE. People are in their own homes not board rooms. | |||
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"I really enjoy the forums and have made some great acquaintances from here. I do find that some regular posters seem to shoot newbies down when they ask questions or state points that go against the norm or unwritten code or practice. Like when a person, mostly single gents like myself, speak of lack of meets. I just feel that maybe regular posters may offer advice as opposed to harsh replies. I would hate to see regular posters boycott the forums (some have been real honeypots to me!), but that is an individual choice. No denying the regular guys and girls have a good rapport with each other, instead of moaning we newbies (am I still one) should create the same with other There is NO NORM or UNWRITTEN CODE of PRACTICE. People are in their own homes not board rooms. " Just my opinion and thank you for yours. This what makes forums entertaining | |||
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"the newbies seem to be at war with the regular posters and the occasional posters are stuck in the middle like pacifists there seems to be a need for some kind of rebel rouser or dictator to bind one or other of the factions into a credible fighting force a force that can generate propoganda and win over the majority of the pacifists only then can that more organised force attack and crush the enemy i shall sit back and watch it unfold as a concientious objector " Best way me thinks!! | |||
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