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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

there are other terms that may be attributed however..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or a polite way of saying someone is bonkers.

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"there are other terms that may be attributed however.."
go on then...enlighten us and i'll enlighten you to my theory that dolphins are really ruling the world

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not derogatory. Nothing wrong with questioning the truth but people will put a name to it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there are other terms that may be attributed however..go on then...enlighten us and i'll enlighten you to my theory that dolphins are really ruling the world"

They play mind games with us but they are controlled by the whales

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"there are other terms that may be attributed however..go on then...enlighten us and i'll enlighten you to my theory that dolphins are really ruling the world"

that's spooky..

was just thinking the same thing..

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"there are other terms that may be attributed however..go on then...enlighten us and i'll enlighten you to my theory that dolphins are really ruling the world

that's spooky..

was just thinking the same thing..

"

great minds think alike

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"there are other terms that may be attributed however..go on then...enlighten us and i'll enlighten you to my theory that dolphins are really ruling the world

They play mind games with us but they are controlled by the whales "

aye they're no called killer whales for nothing you know!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there are other terms that may be attributed however..go on then...enlighten us and i'll enlighten you to my theory that dolphins are really ruling the world

that's spooky..

was just thinking the same thing..

great minds think alike"

especially if you are an aquatic mammal it would seem...

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker "

Although as derogatory titles go,

It's quite good.

.

Even as I read the words

"critical thinker"

my first thought was,

Another Fucking conspiracy theorists.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely everything the government and media tells us is true and factual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there are other terms that may be attributed however..go on then...enlighten us and i'll enlighten you to my theory that dolphins are really ruling the world

They play mind games with us but they are controlled by the whales aye they're no called killer whales for nothing you know!"

Orcas are a type of dolphin not whale.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You silly fucks. . WALES rules the world. . Christ !

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Surely everything the government and media tells us is true and factual."
do you work for the government or did they just send you here to tell us that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely everything the government and media tells us is true and factual.do you work for the government or did they just send you here to tell us that?"

Was a piss take lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The thing is though, conspiracy theorists don't think critically, they ignore evidence that doesn't suit their world veiw and make massive leaps in logic all without providing any credible evidence themselves.

And just like religious zealots, they're never wrong and dismiss anyone who thinks different to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The thing is though, conspiracy theorists don't think critically, they ignore evidence that doesn't suit their world veiw and make massive leaps in logic all without providing any credible evidence themselves.

And just like religious zealots, they're never wrong and dismiss anyone who thinks different to them.

"

Wrong wrong wrong. You are brainwashed by the Government to think that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The thing is though, conspiracy theorists don't think critically, they ignore evidence that doesn't suit their world veiw and make massive leaps in logic all without providing any credible evidence themselves.

And just like religious zealots, they're never wrong and dismiss anyone who thinks different to them.

"

I tend to agree but do love a conspiracy theory regardless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The thing is though, conspiracy theorists don't think critically, they ignore evidence that doesn't suit their world veiw and make massive leaps in logic all without providing any credible evidence themselves.

And just like religious zealots, they're never wrong and dismiss anyone who thinks different to them.

Wrong wrong wrong. You are brainwashed by the Government to think that! "

No vigilant citizen, I am an ordinary swonger, just like you, please go about your business as if you weren't being monitored

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Are you trying to tell us that the dolphins are responsible for everything?

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By *om Tom 1969Man
over a year ago

liverpool

Most conspiracy theory is based on fact,,,for example, why did George Dubya say that he had watched an aeroplane fly into WTC 1 'live' when there is no actual footage, until a documentary team pointed their cameras upwards after hearing the noise and recorded it??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am wearing my Tina Titz approved tin foil hat so immune from your mind probes. I am also accessing the site from the past so technically I havent had these thoughts yet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The miami dolphins ? Set. . Blue 23. . Blue 23 . . HUT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The thing is though, conspiracy theorists don't think critically, they ignore evidence that doesn't suit their world veiw and make massive leaps in logic all without providing any credible evidence themselves.

And just like religious zealots, they're never wrong and dismiss anyone who thinks different to them.

Wrong wrong wrong. You are brainwashed by the Government to think that!

No vigilant citizen, I am an ordinary swonger, just like you, please go about your business as if you weren't being monitored "

Swonger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most conspiracy theory is based on fact,,,for example, why did George Dubya say that he had watched an aeroplane fly into WTC 1 'live' when there is no actual footage, until a documentary team pointed their cameras upwards after hearing the noise and recorded it?? "

An interesting one is also the plane that hit the Pentagon. There's CCTV forage showing an explosion/impact but no plane.

This part of 9/11 seems to have just "gone away"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most conspiracy theory is based on fact,,,for example, why did George Dubya say that he had watched an aeroplane fly into WTC 1 'live' when there is no actual footage, until a documentary team pointed their cameras upwards after hearing the noise and recorded it??

An interesting one is also the plane that hit the Pentagon. There's CCTV forage showing an explosion/impact but no plane.

This part of 9/11 seems to have just "gone away" "

I think they edited the plane out in the video.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ask 100 unrelated people to keep a secret, for ever . See how that works out ! End of theory

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Ask 100 unrelated people to keep a secret, for ever . See how that works out ! End of theory "
i dont know about unrelated....but there are alot of related people out there keeping secret's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most conspiracy theory is based on fact,,,for example, why did George Dubya say that he had watched an aeroplane fly into WTC 1 'live' when there is no actual footage, until a documentary team pointed their cameras upwards after hearing the noise and recorded it??

An interesting one is also the plane that hit the Pentagon. There's CCTV forage showing an explosion/impact but no plane.

This part of 9/11 seems to have just "gone away" I think they edited the plane out in the video."

Ah is that how they did it?

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"You silly fucks. . WALES rules the world. . Christ ! "

At last, someone voices what we have known for years, but were too polite to say lol

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By *om Tom 1969Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"Most conspiracy theory is based on fact,,,for example, why did George Dubya say that he had watched an aeroplane fly into WTC 1 'live' when there is no actual footage, until a documentary team pointed their cameras upwards after hearing the noise and recorded it??

An interesting one is also the plane that hit the Pentagon. There's CCTV forage showing an explosion/impact but no plane.

This part of 9/11 seems to have just "gone away" I think they edited the plane out in the video."

Did they also edit the wreckage out, and the lack of damage that a 40ft tail plane did to a 30ft roof? Oh, yes, of course they di,,,who are they??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most conspiracy theory is based on fact,,,for example, why did George Dubya say that he had watched an aeroplane fly into WTC 1 'live' when there is no actual footage, until a documentary team pointed their cameras upwards after hearing the noise and recorded it??

An interesting one is also the plane that hit the Pentagon. There's CCTV forage showing an explosion/impact but no plane.

This part of 9/11 seems to have just "gone away" I think they edited the plane out in the video.

Ah is that how they did it? "

Yes they cleaned up the evidence first and it took hours to remove the plane so in the video it appears as it never was there, like magic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most conspiracy theory is based on fact,,,for example, why did George Dubya say that he had watched an aeroplane fly into WTC 1 'live' when there is no actual footage, until a documentary team pointed their cameras upwards after hearing the noise and recorded it?? "

As theories go this is probably the worst. George Dubya gets his words muddle, who'd have thought eh ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ask 100 unrelated people to keep a secret, for ever . See how that works out ! End of theory i dont know about unrelated....but there are alot of related people out there keeping secret's"
not a secret that is huge and involves a ton of people all with different reasons to be involved. Human nature leads people to fail or dominate or cheat for their own gains . So no matter how strong the motives for being involved in a cover up . The will always be folks that change tack and tell someone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

watched a documentary on the conspiricy of the 9/11 events

it was estimated that if it was a goverment cover up there would be 5000,000 people in the know now how would they all keep shtum for the rest of their lives

now the 2 malaysian flights im prepared to believe theres something dodgy going on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's why they got area 51, like they hid the moon landing stuff and all the 9/11 plans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago

London / Herts

It's not a matter of who knows...it's who's going to do anything about it.

What would you do if you found concrete evidence that your government was lying to you? Nothing, because they'd make sure you disappear, one way or another.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What like Stalin did ? Yeah because that was never exposed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?"

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not a matter of who knows...it's who's going to do anything about it.

What would you do if you found concrete evidence that your government was lying to you? Nothing, because they'd make sure you disappear, one way or another.

"

So if the estimate of five million people would have to know about 9/11 are correct where would the government hide all of these ? And then their subsequent family and friends

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

"

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I watched Jurrasic park and went into the woods hunting dinosaurs for a month . . !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion."

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines."

Thats that one sorted

Now what about the yetis?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines."

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact there isn't a plane.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact there isn't a plane."

Ive seen talking cats on YouTube.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is just a front to out dangerous non-conformists. Don't fall for it. They are watching.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact there isn't a plane.

Ive seen talking cats on YouTube. "

On CCTV footage with no sound?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact there isn't a plane.

Ive seen talking cats on YouTube. "

I've heard quite a few talking arseholes in the houses of Parliament

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact there isn't a plane.

Ive seen talking cats on YouTube.

On CCTV footage with no sound?"

No , there is sound.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact theres isn't a plane."

The Pentagon - probably in the top 5 most important buildings in the USA. CCTV'd up to its armpits. There is no footage showing a plane hitting the Pentagon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact theres isn't a plane.

The Pentagon - probably in the top 5 most important buildings in the USA. CCTV'd up to its armpits. There is no footage showing a plane hitting the Pentagon.

"

They'd surely be able to release some "real" footage showing that the other footage showing the impact to be fake/altered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!"

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Sometimes being the person who asks the awkward questions or queries the accepted wisdom of certain actions prompts accusations of negativity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact theres isn't a plane.

The Pentagon - probably in the top 5 most important buildings in the USA. CCTV'd up to its armpits. There is no footage showing a plane hitting the Pentagon.

They'd surely be able to release some "real" footage showing that the other footage showing the impact to be fake/altered.

"

There is footage of a plane hitting the pentagon. Read my above post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most conspiracy theory is based on fact,,,for example, why did George Dubya say that he had watched an aeroplane fly into WTC 1 'live' when there is no actual footage, until a documentary team pointed their cameras upwards after hearing the noise and recorded it?? "

Because he's a div and probably thought he was watching it live

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread. "

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact theres isn't a plane.

The Pentagon - probably in the top 5 most important buildings in the USA. CCTV'd up to its armpits. There is no footage showing a plane hitting the Pentagon.

They'd surely be able to release some "real" footage showing that the other footage showing the impact to be fake/altered.

There is footage of a plane hitting the pentagon. Read my above post. "

And photos of plane wreckage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?"

They could be controlled remotely maibe I think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?"

If America could plan and facilitate this surely they could stop this kind of information being published

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?They could be controlled remotely maibe I think."

What theory are we going with here , non combustible material or remote controlled planes ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?They could be controlled remotely maibe I think.

What theory are we going with here , non combustible material or remote controlled planes ? "

I recon the remote controlled plane designed cheaply as convincing boeing or whatever the make was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are all wrong. It was I!!!

I SHOT JR!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact theres isn't a plane.

The Pentagon - probably in the top 5 most important buildings in the USA. CCTV'd up to its armpits. There is no footage showing a plane hitting the Pentagon.

They'd surely be able to release some "real" footage showing that the other footage showing the impact to be fake/altered.

There is footage of a plane hitting the pentagon. Read my above post. "

Do you have the link? Would be interested to watch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?

If America could plan and facilitate this surely they could stop this kind of information being published "

They tried. But any competent engineer can calculate it so they burried it with masses of other data.

Basically you need a certain amount of heat to heat steel to a point where it loses 2/3 of its strength and collapses. They said there was insufficient combustible material to generate that heat. Thermite however would have done just fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do people generally believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? Even tho there's footage of the impact and there's clearly no plane?

Or am I missing it?

ok, I'll bite.

If there is no footage of the impact, and no footage of the plane....

But there is CCTV footage of the impact and resulting explosion.

Some of which show the nose cone of a 757 impacting the pentagon.

Rescue workers also said they clearly identified wreckage from a passenger jet in and around the building. And photographs taken in the immediate aftermath of the explosion identify parts of a Boeing 757 including a piece of fuselage with the distinctive livery of American Airlines.

What my point is if you go on you tube and other places that show the CCTV footage of the pentagon impact theres isn't a plane.

The Pentagon - probably in the top 5 most important buildings in the USA. CCTV'd up to its armpits. There is no footage showing a plane hitting the Pentagon.

They'd surely be able to release some "real" footage showing that the other footage showing the impact to be fake/altered.

There is footage of a plane hitting the pentagon. Read my above post.

Do you have the link? Would be interested to watch. "

Watch the documentary conspiracy files, you can see the nose cone of a plane impacting on the pentagon and the subsequent plane wreckage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?

If America could plan and facilitate this surely they could stop this kind of information being published

They tried. But any competent engineer can calculate it so they burried it with masses of other data.

Basically you need a certain amount of heat to heat steel to a point where it loses 2/3 of its strength and collapses. They said there was insufficient combustible material to generate that heat. Thermite however would have done just fine. "

In a building that was in full use 24 hours a day did no one spot people planting thermite all over the place. Nor were they disguised as cleaners ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry to repeat.

There is absolutely no footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon.

An explosion from round the corner yes, but nothing showing the 757 hitting the Pentagon.

Its the major problem with the Pentagon story for that day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry to repeat.

There is absolutely no footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon.

An explosion from round the corner yes, but nothing showing the 757 hitting the Pentagon.

Its the major problem with the Pentagon story for that day.

"

Sorry to repeat but there is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just watched a video while looking for the footage of the plane hitting the pentagon. Where Donald Rumsfeld says he didn't see plane wreckage at the pentagon.

And a news report where a reporter was on the street and says there is no way this is an incident involving a plane.

It's all very interesting lol

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By *adgodCouple
over a year ago

Greensburg


"The thing is though, conspiracy theorists don't think critically, they ignore evidence that doesn't suit their world veiw and make massive leaps in logic all without providing any credible evidence themselves.

And just like religious zealots, they're never wrong and dismiss anyone who thinks different to them.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry to repeat.

There is absolutely no footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon.

An explosion from round the corner yes, but nothing showing the 757 hitting the Pentagon.

Its the major problem with the Pentagon story for that day.

Sorry to repeat but there is. "

prove it

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By *ranthamThroatMan
over a year ago

Grantham.


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We only know what we are told or shown ,unless our own ears heard it or our own eyes saw it. And even then it's debateable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry to repeat.

There is absolutely no footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon.

An explosion from round the corner yes, but nothing showing the 757 hitting the Pentagon.

Its the major problem with the Pentagon story for that day.

Sorry to repeat but there is.

prove it"

What a silly thing to say. You prove otherwise. Do you want me to pop round with the evidence. I have already pointed in the direction where the cctv can be viewed.

Frames taken from two cameras at a car park in front of the Pentagon show the silver nose cone and tail fin of a Boeing 757 moments before the explosion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just watched a video while looking for the footage of the plane hitting the pentagon. Where Donald Rumsfeld says he didn't see plane wreckage at the pentagon.

And a news report where a reporter was on the street and says there is no way this is an incident involving a plane.

It's all very interesting lol "

And I've read news reports where eye witnesses say they saw a plane hit the pentagon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just watched a video while looking for the footage of the plane hitting the pentagon. Where Donald Rumsfeld says he didn't see plane wreckage at the pentagon.

And a news report where a reporter was on the street and says there is no way this is an incident involving a plane.

It's all very interesting lol

And I've read news reports where eye witnesses say they saw a plane hit the pentagon. "

It's interesting because people can clearly have different recollections of an event and how they recall it

But totally different versions on such a major event as a large plane hitting a building or not odd.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just watched a video while looking for the footage of the plane hitting the pentagon. Where Donald Rumsfeld says he didn't see plane wreckage at the pentagon.

And a news report where a reporter was on the street and says there is no way this is an incident involving a plane.

It's all very interesting lol

And I've read news reports where eye witnesses say they saw a plane hit the pentagon.

It's interesting because people can clearly have different recollections of an event and how they recall it

But totally different versions on such a major event as a large plane hitting a building or not odd."

The one thing that convinces me , apart from the eyewitness and the cctv, is where are the people who were on the plane and who are the people who attended the funerals and the memorial services for these people ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?

If America could plan and facilitate this surely they could stop this kind of information being published

They tried. But any competent engineer can calculate it so they burried it with masses of other data.

Basically you need a certain amount of heat to heat steel to a point where it loses 2/3 of its strength and collapses. They said there was insufficient combustible material to generate that heat. Thermite however would have done just fine.

In a building that was in full use 24 hours a day did no one spot people planting thermite all over the place. Nor were they disguised as cleaners ? "

You may recall that 6 months or so before the terrorist attack several floors of the building were closed for maintenance. That would have provided an opportunity.

The other question was why did they find steel that had been molten in the rubble bearing in mind the heat required to melt steel?

See, conspiracy theories abound.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?

If America could plan and facilitate this surely they could stop this kind of information being published

They tried. But any competent engineer can calculate it so they burried it with masses of other data.

Basically you need a certain amount of heat to heat steel to a point where it loses 2/3 of its strength and collapses. They said there was insufficient combustible material to generate that heat. Thermite however would have done just fine.

In a building that was in full use 24 hours a day did no one spot people planting thermite all over the place. Nor were they disguised as cleaners ?

You may recall that 6 months or so before the terrorist attack several floors of the building were closed for maintenance. That would have provided an opportunity.

The other question was why did they find steel that had been molten in the rubble bearing in mind the heat required to melt steel?

See, conspiracy theories abound. "

So the maintenance crew did it ? The theories just get sillier and sillier.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or where did the plane go? No seats not even parts of the huge engines.

A Boeing 757 is 155 feet in length and has wing span of 124 feet and it vanished.

The damage doesn't look substantial enough if we're to believe the huge plane incinerated away to nothing.

There was also very few passengers for country that's round for over booking flights.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Or where did the plane go? No seats not even parts of the huge engines.

A Boeing 757 is 155 feet in length and has wing span of 124 feet and it vanished.

The damage doesn't look substantial enough if we're to believe the huge plane incinerated away to nothing.

There was also very few passengers for country that's round for over booking flights."

I've been on empty flights in America. I've used a pay phone on board a flight in America. Remember the theories about phones not working on planes.

Their was sufficient wreckage for the plane to be identified as an American Airlines 757.

But most of all who are the people mourning the so called fake passengers ? Please explain that one, and where are the supposed passengers ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker "

Only when wrongly applied to a critical thinker. I can think of FAR worse things to call someone rather than a conspiracy theorist after reading some of the disrespectful crap I've seen posted. I had to bite my tongue earlier today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The thing is though, conspiracy theorists don't think critically, they ignore evidence that doesn't suit their world veiw and make massive leaps in logic all without providing any credible evidence themselves.

And just like religious zealots, they're never wrong and dismiss anyone who thinks different to them.

"

Not always the case. Take Jimmy Saville for example. Plenty of evidence about him whilst his offences were taking place. People in authority and well known people in the media knew and all of them said and did nothing. He hid his crimes in plain view, protected by his charity work and other people who were in positions to be able to protect him. If anyone would have brought this up in a public forum in the past,m they would have been pilloried and even called a conspiracy theorist. Sometimes the theories ARE true.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?

If America could plan and facilitate this surely they could stop this kind of information being published

They tried. But any competent engineer can calculate it so they burried it with masses of other data.

Basically you need a certain amount of heat to heat steel to a point where it loses 2/3 of its strength and collapses. They said there was insufficient combustible material to generate that heat. Thermite however would have done just fine.

In a building that was in full use 24 hours a day did no one spot people planting thermite all over the place. Nor were they disguised as cleaners ?

You may recall that 6 months or so before the terrorist attack several floors of the building were closed for maintenance. That would have provided an opportunity.

The other question was why did they find steel that had been molten in the rubble bearing in mind the heat required to melt steel?

See, conspiracy theories abound. "

structural steel will start to lose its integrity at about 650 degrees c, and yes whilst the steel used in that building would have had a fire resistant coating when built the impact of a plane with x amount of fuel on board would have set in motion what was required to start the collapse process..

pop down to your local fire station and they will have knowledge of what happens when steel expands in a fire, also your average room fire will kick out abut a 1000 degrees in heat..

massive kinetic energy with the damage that caused to the buildings structural integrity, add in aviation fuel to any 'compartment fire' and the weight of the floors above and it was coming down unless that fire was tackled pretty fast..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did usa plan the twin tower plot to justify war? They might have!!

The American Corps of Engineers found there was insufficient combustible materials in the twin towers to generate the heat required to weaken them sufficiently to bring them down. Fact.

But hey ho, bunch of conspiracy theorists....... but that will have to be another thread.

I'm just guessing but could the combustible material have been the fuel on the plane ?

If America could plan and facilitate this surely they could stop this kind of information being published

They tried. But any competent engineer can calculate it so they burried it with masses of other data.

Basically you need a certain amount of heat to heat steel to a point where it loses 2/3 of its strength and collapses. They said there was insufficient combustible material to generate that heat. Thermite however would have done just fine.

In a building that was in full use 24 hours a day did no one spot people planting thermite all over the place. Nor were they disguised as cleaners ?

You may recall that 6 months or so before the terrorist attack several floors of the building were closed for maintenance. That would have provided an opportunity.

The other question was why did they find steel that had been molten in the rubble bearing in mind the heat required to melt steel?

See, conspiracy theories abound.

structural steel will start to lose its integrity at about 650 degrees c, and yes whilst the steel used in that building would have had a fire resistant coating when built the impact of a plane with x amount of fuel on board would have set in motion what was required to start the collapse process..

pop down to your local fire station and they will have knowledge of what happens when steel expands in a fire, also your average room fire will kick out abut a 1000 degrees in heat..

massive kinetic energy with the damage that caused to the buildings structural integrity, add in aviation fuel to any 'compartment fire' and the weight of the floors above and it was coming down unless that fire was tackled pretty fast.. "

Conspiracy theorists can dispute all known laws of physics and construction. In fact theyhave their own laws, completely at odds with known science just so they can continue to ignore reality and common sense.

It also enables them to call people with real world knowledge nasty names...;-)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If man is still struggling to get to mars, why do people believe that our solar system looks like how you see them in a science book... In fact man has never been outside our galaxy but yet they have the same picture and claim that's what our galaxy look like... Then it makes you also wonder... Have they actually been outside our galaxy and are still lying to us n saying Mars is hard to get to... Like they are trolling us.

Another theory is that the cure for AIDS, is sound. Look up Credo Mutuwa

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Another theory is that the cure for AIDS, is sound. Look up Credo Mutuwa"

There's many theories, there's been one person cured but they're not quite sure how they did it as he was also being treated for cancer. Google search 'The Berlin Patient'..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The real laws of physics are stranger than fiction.

A 757 slammed into an object WILL effectively vapourise except for forged steel landing gear and engine parts.

Have a look for something like F4 Phantom slammed into concrete on youtube, or where mythbusters shoot a pool with various bullets. The bigger the round, the less it penetrates water!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I agre, it is a dismissive term used, often for those who realize there are many shades of grey to many subjects, whilst a simple black and white view does not explain many things.

It can be naive or stupid to cast such labels about and is often done lazily.

Governments frequently create conspiracy theories that will be ridiculed, as a method of distraction and to discredit people who could otherwise be view seriously.

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By *ranthamThroatMan
over a year ago

Grantham.


"If man is still struggling to get to mars, why do people believe that our solar system looks like how you see them in a science book... In fact man has never been outside our galaxy but yet they have the same picture and claim that's what our galaxy look like... Then it makes you also wonder... Have they actually been outside our galaxy and are still lying to us n saying Mars is hard to get to... Like they are trolling us.

Another theory is that the cure for AIDS, is sound. Look up Credo Mutuwa"

The plant could be useful, as are lots in medicine but am afraid that when I saw the reference to David Icke, who claimed to be the "Son of the Godhead" & espouser of "Reptiline Blood" I lost interest.

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By *ranthamThroatMan
over a year ago

Grantham.


"I agre, it is a dismissive term used, often for those who realize there are many shades of grey to many subjects, whilst a simple black and white view does not explain many things.

It can be naive or stupid to cast such labels about and is often done lazily.

Governments frequently create conspiracy theories that will be ridiculed, as a method of distraction and to discredit people who could otherwise be view seriously."

Governments frequently create conspiracy theories that will be ridiculed, as a method of distraction and to discredit people who could otherwise be view seriously.

Good any proof?

Whilst I accept they manipulate news releases to suit themselves, do you actually believe your statement?

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By *inCity BluesMan
over a year ago

London


"If man is still struggling to get to mars, why do people believe that our solar system looks like how you see them in a science book... In fact man has never been outside our galaxy but yet they have the same picture and claim that's what our galaxy look like... Then it makes you also wonder... Have they actually been outside our galaxy and are still lying to us n saying Mars is hard to get to... Like they are trolling us."

Well, let's see. The Voyager 1 space probe, the only man made object to leave our Solar system, would take around 17,400 years to travel 1 light year. We are roughly 70,000 light years from the edge of our galaxy. Which means just to reach that edge, a probe would have to have been launched from Earth around 1.2 billion years ago.

Alternatively, the images of our galaxy are hypothetical and are based on our observation of neighbouring galaxies.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I can't bear conspiracy theorists, mainly because they expect me to listen to their theories but refuse to listen to dissenting ones.

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