FabSwingers.com forum: The Pope

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It seems that the draft proposals put forward by the pontiff to inject a degree of understanding on homosexuality, contraception and divorce have been rejected by rhe Cardinal council. The draft, in my opinion were a half arsed attempt to bring the Catholic Church out of the dark ages; they did not go far enough.

It struck me that Cardinal council which is composed mostly of white middle class men need to get real and start preaching the mantra of their specific God. How these men, a number of which have been implicated in child abuse cover ups, can sleep at night is beyond me.

Looks like this Pope will not last the course!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It seems that the draft proposals put forward by the pontiff to inject a degree of understanding on homosexuality, contraception and divorce have been rejected by rhe Cardinal council. The draft, in my opinion were a half arsed attempt to bring the Catholic Church out of the dark ages; they did not go far enough.

Looks like this Pope will not last the course!"

Can they sack him?

Catholicism is an evil religion

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No he cannot be sacked he is inflatable in the eyes of 1.3b Catholics

I agree with your comment on the religion.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

I'm not a big fan of the Catholic faith.

Their stance on birth control has caused massive problems for millions of people. Atrocious policy

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Unless they knock him off like they did John Paul I, he won't be got rid of.

What will happen is what always happens - they will make noises about reform but delay and delay, until things stay exactly the same. Its no wonder every Catholic I meet are well and truly lapsed.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"No he cannot be sacked he is inflatable in the eyes of 1.3b Catholics

I agree with your comment on the religion."

Infallible I think you meant to type? Or do they actually want to blow him up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This forum has some truly interesting topics, it's interesting that it seems ok to criticise certain "groups" of people but others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No he cannot be sacked he is inflatable in the eyes of 1.3b Catholics

I agree with your comment on the religion.

Infallible I think you meant to type? Or do the y actually want to blow him up?"
. yes infalibble predictive I pad and poor eyes too much masturbation as a catholic school boy!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This forum has some truly interesting topics, it's interesting that it seems ok to criticise certain "groups" of people but others.

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I do not understand your post?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same problem with the iPad lol.

It's interesting that it seems ok to criticise/dislike some groups of people but not others.

Mind you the fact I'm on here and what I get upto I'm not the most religious person lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i had a giggle at a blow up pope if im honest

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"i had a giggle at a blow up pope if im honest"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Same problem with the iPad lol.

It's interesting that it seems ok to criticise/dislike some groups of people but not others.

Mind you the fact I'm on here and what I get upto I'm not the most religious person lol. "
I think you have answered your own question? Why would you preclude yourself from being a religious person simply because you enjoy a healthy sex life? Do you consider recreational sex to be wrong or dare I say sinful?

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

Surely the more the church 'adapts' to modernity the further it gets from it's doctrinal roots.

I'm not surprised it was rejected.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I don't because I'm not religious, but if thats what certain religions believe or teach and you follow the religion then that's their way of life.

What I don't understand is people who are religious but like/ believe in the "parts" that suit them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No he cannot be sacked he is inflatable in the eyes of 1.3b Catholics

I agree with your comment on the religion.

Infallible I think you meant to type? Or do the y actually want to blow him up?. yes infalibble predictive I pad and poor eyes too much masturbation as a catholic school boy!"

You should have joined the Choir, a priest would have done it for you

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I think this Pope has pushed harder and faster for reforms, including holding the Church's hands up to past and present abuse.

The fact that he gets the discussion going is progress - however slow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just think if you started a thread stating that Islam or Judaism was an evil religion. The responses would be interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looks like this Pope will not last the course!"

Stopped being a practising catholic a long, long time ago. Witnessed too much hypocrisy amongst so called good catholics while growing up in Ireland.

Families with 7 or 8 children without a pot to pee in being preached at about contraception (taking the pill) being akin to murder.

Madness.

Sad to see not a lot has changed.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I just think if you started a thread stating that Islam or Judaism was an evil religion. The responses would be interesting. "

I agree. Of course all three come from the same Abrahamic roots and cover much of the same ground. I don't think faith and religion is evil but that they can be used for evil.

I will defend any religion against the sweeping statements that lead to tarring everyone with an evil tag.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Religion is the opium of the masses. Chosen any main stream religion and those on the fringe and they will manipulate their God to suit their own devices.

I was trying to applaud the current pope and his propensity to try and change doctorinal teachings that are archic.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

It's not religion that's evil per se in my opinion.

But religious people are no more immune to being wicked than anyone else.

There is a great deal of hypocrisy though, but that exists in all walks of life and especially in institutional settings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religion is the opium of the masses. Chosen any main stream religion and those on the fringe and they will manipulate their God to suit their own devices.

I was trying to applaud the current pope and his propensity to try and change doctorinal teachings that are archic."

I agree and he is a breath of air into the murky dusty shadows of the Vatican but you said it yourself.

He won't last.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just think if you started a thread stating that Islam or Judaism was an evil religion. The responses would be interesting. "

Maybe its because Islam and Judaism are peaceful religions with a few zealots giving them a bad name.

Catholicism is rotten from the core. I like the new Pope, at least he's trying to change it. Sadly the power brokers and paedos that really run it will never allow change to bring it in to the 21st century.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Religion is the opium of the masses. Chosen any main stream religion and those on the fringe and they will manipulate their God to suit their own devices.

I was trying to applaud the current pope and his propensity to try and change doctorinal teachings that are archic.

I agree and he is a breath of air into the murky dusty shadows of the Vatican but you said it yourself.

He won't last. "
no he will be sidelined

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just think if you started a thread stating that Islam or Judaism was an evil religion. The responses would be interesting.

Maybe its because Islam and Judaism are peaceful religions with a few zealots giving them a bad name.

I think cutting innocent people's heads off on camera, or people being stoned to death is pretty evil. But your probably right it's just a few zealots, as you put it.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"I just think if you started a thread stating that Islam or Judaism was an evil religion. The responses would be interesting.

Maybe its because Islam and Judaism are peaceful religions with a few zealots giving them a bad name.

I think all three share the same bigoted doctrine

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I just think if you started a thread stating that Islam or Judaism was an evil religion. The responses would be interesting. "

I think that there is good within all religions, some more so than others..

the lessons of the past have yet to be addressed in the catholic faith but its not alone in that..

demonising all of one group or faith is a bit naïve imho but its an easy thing to do..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just think if you started a thread stating that Islam or Judaism was an evil religion. The responses would be interesting.

Maybe its because Islam and Judaism are peaceful religions with a few zealots giving them a bad name.

I think cutting innocent people's heads off on camera, or people being stoned to death is pretty evil. But your probably right it's just a few zealots, as you put it. "

Yes and shelling Gaza is just a few zealots too....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religion is the opium of the masses. Chosen any main stream religion and those on the fringe and they will manipulate their God to suit their own devices.

I was trying to applaud the current pope and his propensity to try and change doctorinal teachings that are archic.

I agree and he is a breath of air into the murky dusty shadows of the Vatican but you said it yourself.

He won't last. no he will be sidelined "

Taken for a long walk......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just think if you started a thread stating that Islam or Judaism was an evil religion. The responses would be interesting.

I think that there is good within all religions, some more so than others..

the lessons of the past have yet to be addressed in the catholic faith but its not alone in that..

demonising all of one group or faith is a bit naïve imho but its an easy thing to do.. "

Totally agree, there's good and bad in every group of people whether that's a religious group or any other group.

But it does seem it's more "acceptable" to demonise some groups over others.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"I just think if you started a thread stating that Islam or Judaism was an evil religion. The responses would be interesting.

I think that there is good within all religions, some more so than others..

the lessons of the past have yet to be addressed in the catholic faith but its not alone in that..

demonising all of one group or faith is a bit naïve imho but its an easy thing to do..

Totally agree, there's good and bad in every group of people whether that's a religious group or any other group.

But it does seem it's more "acceptable" to demonise some groups over others. "

Of course it's correct to highlight and question the bigotry of some groups of course many find it difficult to do calmly and objectively

You will find very often inhumane acts and opinions are covered up and defended by so called good

You judge a religion or a doctrine by its specific bad not by its pretend adoption of good

Jimmy savell and Hitler both did work of apparent good sometimes x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Catholic religion still wants to do what they have always wanted to do and breed themselves into superior numbers. Homosexuality and contraception are not compatible with those aims.

Other religions seem to want to obtain numerical superiority by killing those of other religions or alternatively converting them at gun point.

God or Gods will exist, or not as the case may be, whether or not there is a religion to support them.

Religions are man made social control mechanisms that give power to their unelected leaders.

Ps. The power in the Vatican comes from the Holy Seed, which is in fact a chair, a piece of furniture.

There is also a King of the Vatican which is a separate country to Italy thanks to Mussolini. The King is also the Pope, who is elected, so the Vatican has the only elected monarchy in the world.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think it's known for its ignorance so I'm not surprised.

I guess they're not losing enough members and money yet, so the fatted calves of the council won't care to budge.

Shame God can't appear in person to them and shame then for their sins and lack of compassion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think it's known for its ignorance so I'm not surprised.

I guess they're not losing enough members and money yet, so the fatted calves of the council won't care to budge.

Shame God can't appear in person to them and shame then for their sins and lack of compassion."
well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think there's a very good reason why God won't appear....

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"I think it's known for its ignorance so I'm not surprised.

I guess they're not losing enough members and money yet, so the fatted calves of the council won't care to budge.

Shame God can't appear in person to them and shame then for their sins and lack of compassion."

I think it is a shame that all of the data that illustrates all of the human invented god concepts are wildly implausible imaginations of manipulative deluded , stone and bronze age humans cannot be clearly and articulately presented in such a way that less people would feel it is reasonable to take a strong stance of belief x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think it's known for its ignorance so I'm not surprised.

I guess they're not losing enough members and money yet, so the fatted calves of the council won't care to budge.

Shame God can't appear in person to them and shame then for their sins and lack of compassion.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"I think it's known for its ignorance so I'm not surprised.

I guess they're not losing enough members and money yet, so the fatted calves of the council won't care to budge.

Shame God can't appear in person to them and shame then for their sins and lack of compassion.

Lol there is one of the many million indicators that creator gods are non existent

Viewed from an evolutionary perspective bio engineering makes sense. from an omniscient eternal designer concept it would have to be malicious or inept or possibly both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does the pope still shit in the woods???

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does the pope still shit in the woods???

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I think that would bears?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think there's a very good reason why God won't appear...."

Is it because he's a time waster?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think there's a very good reason why God won't appear....

Is it because he's a time waster?

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could be a she?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think there's a very good reason why God won't appear....

Is it because he's a time waster?

could be a she?"

No it can't because woman are never time wasters

lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think there's a very good reason why God won't appear....

Is it because he's a time waster?

could be a she?

No it can't because woman are never time wasters

lol "
you are joking?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does the pope still shit in the woods???

I think that would bears?"

I thought Bears were Catholic?

Had often wondered about the strange looks!

Sometimes this forum really does open your eyes...

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By *orthLincsIronCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"The Catholic religion still wants to do what they have always wanted to do and breed themselves into superior numbers. Homosexuality and contraception are not compatible with those aims.

Other religions seem to want to obtain numerical superiority by killing those of other religions or alternatively converting them at gun point.

God or Gods will exist, or not as the case may be, whether or not there is a religion to support them.

Religions are man made social control mechanisms that give power to their unelected leaders.

Ps. The power in the Vatican comes from the Holy Seed, which is in fact a chair, a piece of furniture.

There is also a King of the Vatican which is a separate country to Italy thanks to Mussolini. The King is also the Pope, who is elected, so the Vatican has the only elected monarchy in the world.

Andorra has an elected monarch, voted in by the French, the current president of France is also the monarch of Andorra

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think god is unlos

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By *orthLincsIronCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Personally I think god is unlos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Catholic religion still wants to do what they have always wanted to do and breed themselves into superior numbers. Homosexuality and contraception are not compatible with those aims.

Other religions seem to want to obtain numerical superiority by killing those of other religions or alternatively converting them at gun point.

God or Gods will exist, or not as the case may be, whether or not there is a religion to support them.

Religions are man made social control mechanisms that give power to their unelected leaders.

Ps. The power in the Vatican comes from the Holy Seed, which is in fact a chair, a piece of furniture.

There is also a King of the Vatican which is a separate country to Italy thanks to Mussolini. The King is also the Pope, who is elected, so the Vatican has the only elected monarchy in the world.

Andorra has an elected monarch, voted in by the French, the current president of France is also the monarch of Andorra

Strictly speaking Andorra is a Principality so the French president is not a King but a Prince. It is close enough though.