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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Am I alone in thinking this is a Racist Award ?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

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I don't believe so...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eminem has won Mobo's last time I checked he was white, so it can't be racist, I don't think race plays any part in it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

But why ? If it was the Mowo Awards people would go crazy ? I'm not Racist ! But hate the double standards !

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

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"But why ? If it was the Mowo Awards people would go crazy ? I'm not Racist ! But hate the double standards !"

This comes around at least twice a year on here.

Black awards were created because the only things being awarded were white.

MOBO is not limited to black people winning it. It recognises the origin of the music. So the Classical Music awards recognise classical music. Or is that wrong too?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

that young musician of the year winds me up no end, its positively err well for the young innit..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Fine ! I get all that ! So let's have a Mowo awards and alow Black artists to compete ! But better still just have a Music Award !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think the awards themselves are racist, but I find the title "MOBO" a little insensitive. The backgrounds of the categories are not all specifically of Afro/Caribbean origin - the mixtures of music originating from Asia, and even Arabic nations are not included in the "Black" part of the title.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Fine ! I get all that ! So let's have a Mowo awards and alow Black artists to compete ! But better still just have a Music Award !"

We have the Brit awards we have the MTV awards there are awards for ALL type of music. I'm not sure why you have such an issue with the MOBO awards...it's not the race they are awarding it's the type of music....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But why ? If it was the Mowo Awards people would go crazy ? I'm not Racist ! But hate the double standards !

This comes around at least twice a year on here.

Black awards were created because the only things being awarded were white.

MOBO is not limited to black people winning it. It recognises the origin of the music. So the Classical Music awards recognise classical music. Or is that wrong too?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Fine ! I get all that ! So let's have a Mowo awards and alow Black artists to compete ! But better still just have a Music Award !"

We do - they just have other names. It's only racist when you/we make is a racial point. But that may just be the whole point of this thread for all I know.

By the way, here's another thing to get wound up about - it's Black History Month too.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Music of black origin"

And given that most 'popular music stemmed either from folk blues, rock n' roll and/or Jazz.....

Thats pretty much all of it.

Disgraceful!

I'm off to listen to some Wagner.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"that young musician of the year winds me up no end, its positively err well for the young innit..

Let's have the really ancient musician of the year awards. Oh wait, that happens already when The Stones win things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think the awards themselves are racist, but I find the title "MOBO" a little insensitive. The backgrounds of the categories are not all specifically of Afro/Caribbean origin - the mixtures of music originating from Asia, and even Arabic nations are not included in the "Black" part of the title."

Originally they were, it's now that it's reached a bigger audience that they've included more categories.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"that young musician of the year winds me up no end, its positively err well for the young innit..

Let's have the really ancient musician of the year awards. Oh wait, that happens already when The Stones win things. "

when I were a lad we had the singles chart and the LP chart..

now there are dozens of different genres with their own specific charts and its all good..

OP why is it just this one award you have highlighted, why not C&W or any of the others..?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

OP, any messages you want to send me about this do it on the thread.

White History Month is every month.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"that young musician of the year winds me up no end, its positively err well for the young innit..

Let's have the really ancient musician of the year awards. Oh wait, that happens already when The Stones win things.

when I were a lad we had the singles chart and the LP chart..

now there are dozens of different genres with their own specific charts and its all good..

OP why is it just this one award you have highlighted, why not C&W or any of the others..?

Because C&W is prodomdly white style of music and I don't think the OP has an issue with that...reading between the lines

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"OP, any messages you want to send me about this do it on the thread.

White History Month is every month.

You are not the only one to receive a message...lol

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

Wow ok!

MOBO is a specific musical genre that is celebrated with, by, and on behalf of anyone who sings it, writes it, performs it etc etc...

Do the Classical Music Awards discriminate?

Are the BRIT awards xenophobic?

When so many awards are in honour of a specific genre I wonder why you only choose to mention the MOBO awards?

The only possible equivalent I can think of in terms of 'Music of White Origin' is white skinhead music and if they don't already have an awards show then get crackin'!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Black History Month ! No problem

please can some one tell me when it's White History Month ! Please let's just have a History Month and end Racism !

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Black History Month ! No problem

please can some one tell me when it's White History Month ! Please let's just have a History Month and end Racism !"

White history month is on for 11 months of the year...for someone who says they are not racist...you are not doing a good job of portraying that

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Black History Month ! No problem

please can some one tell me when it's White History Month ! Please let's just have a History Month and end Racism !"

THe point is, for the slightly hard of thinking, that every month is white history month. I cannot remember learning anything until I got to sixth form that wasn't specifically britain-centric (apart from one very fascinating module on the plains indians...which had a lot of white people in it, to be fair)...

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Black History Month ! No problem

please can some one tell me when it's White History Month ! Please let's just have a History Month and end Racism !"

Just look at the majority of history programmes and you will find that the black ones tend to happen in October, if then.

This year has been a great exception with a series on the contribution of people of colour (from the colonies) to the First World War.

Ending racism is much easier when people don't make racist points where they are not needed.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Black History Month ! No problem

please can some one tell me when it's White History Month ! Please let's just have a History Month and end Racism !"

and your highlighting the MOBO awards in the way you have helps how..?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Black History Month ! No problem

please can some one tell me when it's White History Month ! Please let's just have a History Month and end Racism !

Those Plains Indians were nothing until the white people came along.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Black History Month ! No problem

please can some one tell me when it's White History Month ! Please let's just have a History Month and end Racism !

White history month is on for 11 months of the year...for someone who says they are not racist...you are not doing a good job of portraying that "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder what black people think of the MOBOs....

Seems fine to me - why is it racist?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Black History Month ! No problem

please can some one tell me when it's White History Month ! Please let's just have a History Month and end Racism !

White history month is on for 11 months of the year...for someone who says they are not racist...you are not doing a good job of portraying that "
But it isn't !

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Black History Month ! No problem

please can some one tell me when it's White History Month ! Please let's just have a History Month and end Racism !

White history month is on for 11 months of the year...for someone who says they are not racist...you are not doing a good job of portraying that But it isn't ! "

Find the poll of the 100 best whatever category in history and find the black winners. It's usually Churchill and possibly one black person listed.

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By *eedelightsWoman
over a year ago

London

Love all the awards. MTV, Brit, world ,bet , classical. It's about the music and seeing what's out there

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm on my own ! Not a problem ! But would anyone have a problem if Thier Were a Mowo Awards and answer honestly ! My last post ! Ps if any one thinks I'm Rascist they have the problem not me ! As I really am Not ! nothing could be Further from the Truth !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Black History Month ! No problem

please can some one tell me when it's White History Month ! Please let's just have a History Month and end Racism !

White history month is on for 11 months of the year...for someone who says they are not racist...you are not doing a good job of portraying that But it isn't !

Find the poll of the 100 best whatever category in history and find the black winners. It's usually Churchill and possibly one black person listed.

Thats because white people choose the categories!

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"I'm on my own ! Not a problem ! But would anyone have a problem if Thier Were a Mowo Awards and answer honestly ! My last post ! Ps if any one thinks I'm Rascist they have the problem not me ! As I really am Not ! nothing could be Further from the Truth !"

What is music of white origin?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fine ! I get all that ! So let's have a Mowo awards and alow Black artists to compete ! But better still just have a Music Award !"

There is, it's called the Brits, Mercury music prize or whatever else there is in the UK and Grammies and plenty of others in the US!!!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

You keep missing the point - completely! Which category of MOWO would it cover? All of them?

As for thinking you are racist, we only have what you put before us to make that assumption. Just as you will make assumptions about me and everyone else you haven't met that posts.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

What is music of white origin? "

Ummmmm

Elgar? Wagner? Vaughan Williams?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You keep missing the point - completely! Which category of MOWO would it cover? All of them?

As for thinking you are racist, we only have what you put before us to make that assumption. Just as you will make assumptions about me and everyone else you haven't met that posts.

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well as you have Blocked Me ! You have already made your mind up ! I think that Says a lot !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is music of white origin?

Ummmmm

Elgar? Wagner? Vaughan Williams?

Eurovision?

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

What is music of white origin?

Ummmmm

Elgar? Wagner? Vaughan Williams?

As a genre that's known as music of white origin?

Ok!

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

What is music of white origin?

Ummmmm

Elgar? Wagner? Vaughan Williams?

As a genre that's known as music of white origin?

Ok! "

My point is that almost all contemporary music is in some respect "of black origin".

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

You keep missing the point - completely! Which category of MOWO would it cover? All of them?

As for thinking you are racist, we only have what you put before us to make that assumption. Just as you will make assumptions about me and everyone else you haven't met that posts.

well as you have Blocked Me ! You have already made your mind up ! I think that Says a lot !"

We're not supposed to talk about blocks on the forum.

I block anyone I don't want carrying on a forum discussion in private messages to me. I still discuss the issues with them ON the forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even if it was only for black people (which it's not) I don't see how it's racist. Why shouldn't minorities have representation? There are an abundance of awards for which white people are eligible, no one is being oppressed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I still say that the title of the ceremony is insensitive and should be changed. It's an exclusive rather than inclusive title and not representative of all of the genres of music in its award categories.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure Simply Red once got a MOBO award....

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I still say that the title of the ceremony is insensitive and should be changed. It's an exclusive rather than inclusive title and not representative of all of the genres of music in its award categories."

There is already a World Music Awards too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Women of the year award. So unfair to men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Spectacle wearer of the year too

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I'm sure Simply Red once got a MOBO award.... "

Jessie J won four, Professor Green won 1, Amy Winehouse, Jamie Cullum came close. The list goes on.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

There is already a World Music Awards too.

Paul Simon,

So much to answer for.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Bugger it

can't resist ! No it isn't ! As I'm sure Thier is a Man of the year award aswell ! And that is my Point !

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

There is already a World Music Awards too.

Paul Simon,

So much to answer for....."

Fifty ways to leave your lover?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I alone in thinking this is a Racist Award ?"

And the SPORO (stupid post of racist origin) goes to the gentleman above

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bugger it

can't resist ! No it isn't ! As I'm sure Thier is a Man of the year award aswell ! And that is my Point !"

But a woman won't ever win,unlike the MOBOS where non black people win

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I alone in thinking this is a Racist Award ?

And the SPORO (stupid post of racist origin) goes to the gentleman above"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reading all the interesting points, So when is the music of white origin awards?? Had no idea there was such a thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Awards ceremonies are all shit.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Reading all the interesting points, So when is the music of white origin awards?? Had no idea there was such a thing. "
Thier isn't ! But if Thier was it would get condemned as a racist !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Awards ceremonies are all shit."

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

"Love all the awards. MTV, Brit, world ,bet , classical. It's about the music and seeing what's out there"

This...simple really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I couldn't agree with you more it's like having the MOWO-music of white origin

Wtf

It's the same with some newspapers like the voice and the nation-wtf

Why would you start something based on someone's race,surely this creates more segregation

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