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"I think it is utter nonsense. How about they try to do something productive like find the ********* who smashed my car in the middle of the night while I was in the house argh. ..... (" So the people who enforce the smoking ban should come out and sort out your car problems lol. I think smoking in open places should be banned in more places, especially in doorways, we have to walk through a fog of smoke everytime we want to go to the supermarket, cinema, pibs and the like. | |||
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"I smoke but I don't smoke whilst by the swings " What about the seesaw ? | |||
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"I'm a nom smoker, I don't mind those that do, it's there choice...... However I do find it crass of the government and health officials to bleet on about cutting the numbers of smokers when the tax revenue generated is such that if all smokers suddenly have up the country would be insolvent!!!!" Is the tax on cigarettes more or less than the cost to the NHS treating smoking related diseases? I'm a non smoker and think this is too far, people should be able to smoke outdoors if they wish but do agree the ends should be disposed of correctly | |||
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"As a non smoker it can't come any sooner its your choice to smoke and it should be my choice not to breath in all the toxins which is really hard if someone lights up in a busy bus station for example. If you choose to smoke then you should respect other people around you. " Do you really think that second hand cigarette smoke is the worst thing you'll fill your lungs with in a "busy bus station"? | |||
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"Can we also ban Red Bull from pubs as it stinks and makes me want to vomit? Can we ban KFC and McDonalds because the smell is disgusting and it's "a bad example to the kiddies" and it creates litter? Can we ban all forms of petrol and diesel combustion because they create far more nasties than cigarettes.....it might help the poor kiddies.... Can we ban swimming in the sea as people regularly get swept out and drown and it costs other people time and money to monitor the coast. Can we stop people doing DIY and sawing their fingers off? Can we ban all nude statues in case it embarrasses the prudish in society? Can we ban Michael McIntyre because he is shit?" Back off the KFC!! | |||
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"Can we also ban Red Bull from pubs as it stinks and makes me want to vomit? Can we ban KFC and McDonalds because the smell is disgusting and it's "a bad example to the kiddies" and it creates litter? Can we ban all forms of petrol and diesel combustion because they create far more nasties than cigarettes.....it might help the poor kiddies.... Can we ban swimming in the sea as people regularly get swept out and drown and it costs other people time and money to monitor the coast. Can we stop people doing DIY and sawing their fingers off? Can we ban all nude statues in case it embarrasses the prudish in society? Can we ban Michael McIntyre because he is shit? Back off the KFC!! " And Michael Mcintyre!! :O | |||
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"As a non smoker it can't come any sooner its your choice to smoke and it should be my choice not to breath in all the toxins which is really hard if someone lights up in a busy bus station for example. If you choose to smoke then you should respect other people around you. " | |||
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"I'm a nom smoker, I don't mind those that do, it's there choice...... However I do find it crass of the government and health officials to bleet on about cutting the numbers of smokers when the tax revenue generated is such that if all smokers suddenly have up the country would be insolvent!!!! Is the tax on cigarettes more or less than the cost to the NHS treating smoking related diseases? I'm a non smoker and think this is too far, people should be able to smoke outdoors if they wish but do agree the ends should be disposed of correctly " No. Smokers contribute something like ten times in tax what it costs to treat smoking related diseases | |||
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"I was on a swing a coupla weeks ago while havin' a fag!! What you lot got to say about that, huh?? HUH?? ''fuck it all and no regrets...'' " Hold up..... We've got a badass in here..... | |||
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"I'm a nom smoker, I don't mind those that do, it's there choice...... However I do find it crass of the government and health officials to bleet on about cutting the numbers of smokers when the tax revenue generated is such that if all smokers suddenly have up the country would be insolvent!!!! Is the tax on cigarettes more or less than the cost to the NHS treating smoking related diseases? I'm a non smoker and think this is too far, people should be able to smoke outdoors if they wish but do agree the ends should be disposed of correctly No. Smokers contribute something like ten times in tax what it costs to treat smoking related diseases" But they are trying to stop people smoking, The taxes will just be moved onto something else to generate money | |||
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"I'm a nom smoker, I don't mind those that do, it's there choice...... However I do find it crass of the government and health officials to bleet on about cutting the numbers of smokers when the tax revenue generated is such that if all smokers suddenly have up the country would be insolvent!!!! Is the tax on cigarettes more or less than the cost to the NHS treating smoking related diseases? I'm a non smoker and think this is too far, people should be able to smoke outdoors if they wish but do agree the ends should be disposed of correctly No. Smokers contribute something like ten times in tax what it costs to treat smoking related diseases But they are trying to stop people smoking, The taxes will just be moved onto something else to generate money" If they really wanted to stop people smoking then they would ban the manufacture and sale of cigarettes in the UK. As our borders are pretty porous, people will be able to buy illegal cigarettes and the tax revenue would drop dramatically. Clearly it would be moved to something else & in about 30 years we would see the benefit in reduced lung cancer and its impact on our health system! I don't advocate smoking, but I have smoked (until it was legal!) and I think banning it in public and open spaces is totally ludicrous. The nanny state needs to step back from always trying to control people & allow for personal responsibilty - not a rant, just shaking my head in incredulity | |||
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"I don't think that smoking should be banned in public open air spaces. I do think that smokers should be considerate of others and their litter. " Agree with this. | |||
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"I would ban them smoking but it would be very hard to control it, A old work mate of mine used to flick the ash out of the van window and throw his cigarette butt out as well, I would say why don't you use the ashtray, He would reply with I didn't like the smell of ash in my van " Its banned in some parks in america and they enforce it, £30 on the spot fine. I saw it on the news earlier. Also in Hong Kong a whopping £120 fine! | |||
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"I smoke but I don't smoke whilst by the swings What about the seesaw ?" . on occassion but don't tell anyone | |||
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"I am a smoker and I bloody hate seeing adults smoking in kids parks/play areas. Yes, it should be banned in those places in my opinion. Also think it should be banned in cars when kids are in it too. " totally this!!!! Walked into a soft play center with my baby earlier and walked through a cloud of smoke in front of the door.. No good blowing it the other way when it's windy | |||
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"I am a smoker and I bloody hate seeing adults smoking in kids parks/play areas. Yes, it should be banned in those places in my opinion. Also think it should be banned in cars when kids are in it too. " | |||
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"I don't get it, the tax contribution from smokers helps to fund an over stretched system AND takes years off of lives saving NHS and Pension contributions... are these people trying to bankrupt the country? " It is actually costs much more to treat smokers, and it is not cancer only, but whole collection of other diseases and health problems, than tax collected from tobacco products. | |||
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" Is the tax on cigarettes more or less than the cost to the NHS treating smoking related diseases? I'm a non smoker and think this is too far, people should be able to smoke outdoors if they wish but do agree the ends should be disposed of correctly " Taxes raised on cigarettes range from between £15.3bn and £18.3bn per year. Taxes spent on smoking related illnesses via the NHS range from between £2.7bn to £5.2bn. | |||
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"Taxes raised on cigarettes range from between £15.3bn and £18.3bn per year. Taxes spent on smoking related illnesses via the NHS range from between £2.7bn to £5.2bn. " £5.2bn was in 2009 and England and Wales only. This figure rises about 10-15% each year. As well, it covers issues that smoking was major (75%=) factor. There are lots of other problems, like hearth diseases were smoking is one of main contributing factors, but are not included in mentioned £5bn. On top of that you should add incapacity benefits paid to smokers. Costs to their families and so on. Overall sum is much higher than taxes collected. | |||
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"I am a smoker and I bloody hate seeing adults smoking in kids parks/play areas. Yes, it should be banned in those places in my opinion. Also think it should be banned in cars when kids are in it too. " this but a total public ban is bollocks.. if they wish to improve air quality sort out the poorly efficient vehicles perhaps and other things.. | |||
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"£5.2bn was in 2009 and England and Wales only. This figure rises about 10-15% each year. As well, it covers issues that smoking was major (75%=) factor. There are lots of other problems, like hearth diseases were smoking is one of main contributing factors, but are not included in mentioned £5bn. On top of that you should add incapacity benefits paid to smokers. Costs to their families and so on. Overall sum is much higher than taxes collected. " In 2010 Policy Exchange put the overall cost to society at £13.74bn. I only included NHS figures because that's what the poster asked for. As you say, the costs will have increased by now and I think the number of smokers is decreasing (which I think is why there's talk of taxing electronic cigarettes). If the government want to stop people smoking I don't know why they don't regulate how much nicotine can be added to cigarettes. I.e. phase nicotine out of cigarettes over a large number of years. | |||
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"If the government want to stop people smoking I don't know why they don't regulate how much nicotine can be added to cigarettes. I.e. phase nicotine out of cigarettes over a large number of years. " This would lead to more smoking. Smokers are addicts and need their fix. | |||
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"£5.2bn was in 2009 and England and Wales only. This figure rises about 10-15% each year. As well, it covers issues that smoking was major (75%=) factor. There are lots of other problems, like hearth diseases were smoking is one of main contributing factors, but are not included in mentioned £5bn. On top of that you should add incapacity benefits paid to smokers. Costs to their families and so on. Overall sum is much higher than taxes collected. In 2010 Policy Exchange put the overall cost to society at £13.74bn. I only included NHS figures because that's what the poster asked for. As you say, the costs will have increased by now and I think the number of smokers is decreasing (which I think is why there's talk of taxing electronic cigarettes). If the government want to stop people smoking I don't know why they don't regulate how much nicotine can be added to cigarettes. I.e. phase nicotine out of cigarettes over a large number of years. " What the nhs says are smoking related diseases is a questionable definition. If someone suffers a heart attack, and they smoke it is listed as a smoking reated disease, even though they might have a congenital heart condition or a long family history of heart disease. The nhs and ash is too quick at pointing the finger at smoking as being the cause of some smokers illnesses, when it could be a completely different cause. They have a interest in bkaming smoking and do not report causes accurately. | |||
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"I am a smoker and I bloody hate seeing adults smoking in kids parks/play areas. Yes, it should be banned in those places in my opinion. Also think it should be banned in cars when kids are in it too. totally this!!!! Walked into a soft play center with my baby earlier and walked through a cloud of smoke in front of the door.. No good blowing it the other way when it's windy " | |||
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"I am a smoker and I bloody hate seeing adults smoking in kids parks/play areas. Yes, it should be banned in those places in my opinion. Also think it should be banned in cars when kids are in it too. totally this!!!! Walked into a soft play center with my baby earlier and walked through a cloud of smoke in front of the door.. No good blowing it the other way when it's windy " soft play center with a baby , thats so taboo | |||
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"No banning it just means someone has to police it just put the prices up by £5 a packet. " All that will do is get more customers for black market fags, nobody round here buys fags or baccy from shops, everyone knows someone who sells them cheap | |||
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"As a non smoker it can't come any sooner its your choice to smoke and it should be my choice not to breath in all the toxins which is really hard if someone lights up in a busy bus station for example. If you choose to smoke then you should respect other people around you. Do you really think that second hand cigarette smoke is the worst thing you'll fill your lungs with in a "busy bus station"? " As a non smoker i would say it is just as bad if not worse than the toxins coming from the buses.Also some people have no consideration if your walking towards them with a pram and the are walking the other way. Some put the fag besides them until we finished passing but others carrying on smoking. | |||
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"If i cant smoke then nobody should be allowed to wear perfume or cologne its smells just as bad to me " You keep kidding yourself | |||
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"hate smokers! plenty of times ive had arguements with people for blowing smoke in my face, or holding a cig next to my childs face. The upmost pointless money wasteful habbit alongside drugs.. might as well just roll up at 10 n smoke it lol" rephrase *hate smoking* lol | |||
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"hate smokers! plenty of times ive had arguements with people for blowing smoke in my face, or holding a cig next to my childs face. The upmost pointless money wasteful habbit alongside drugs.. might as well just roll up at 10 n smoke it lol" Everyone loves to comment about cost of smoking to NHS and that its a wasteful habit. Well what about drinking and its cost to the emergency services? The families ruined by alcohol whether it be a d*unk abusive father or some child hit by d*unk driver and killed? Smokers are made out to be worshippers of Satan yet there are tv programs which make binge drinking a source of entertainment. | |||
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"I think it's a good idea but probably unworkable. If your sat in the middle of a field having a smoke with no one about who really cares. But smoking near the swings and slides then maybe you should be pulled up on it. " In Singapore there are painted areas where people can smoke | |||
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"hate smokers! plenty of times ive had arguements with people for blowing smoke in my face, or holding a cig next to my childs face. The upmost pointless money wasteful habbit alongside drugs.. might as well just roll up at 10 n smoke it lol" If it was pointless, people wouldn't do it. They enjoy it. People enjoy drugs, bacon sandwiches, creme de menthe....all pointless, if we use your logic. Have a fag....go on....you might like it!!! | |||
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"?" Playgrounds yes, for sure! Parents smoking over their children and then chucking the cigarrette butt on the ground results in me asking them politely to pick it up, usually they're rude and abusive... | |||
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"I think it's a good idea but probably unworkable. If your sat in the middle of a field having a smoke with no one about who really cares. But smoking near the swings and slides then maybe you should be pulled up on it. In Singapore there are painted areas where people can smoke" I like this idea. Put all the addicts in a designated area to indulge in there habit. Then hopefully all the litter would be consigned to one place as well. | |||
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"hate smokers! plenty of times ive had arguements with people for blowing smoke in my face, or holding a cig next to my childs face. The upmost pointless money wasteful habbit alongside drugs.. might as well just roll up at 10 n smoke it lol Everyone loves to comment about cost of smoking to NHS and that its a wasteful habit. Well what about drinking and its cost to the emergency services? The families ruined by alcohol whether it be a d*unk abusive father or some child hit by d*unk driver and killed? Smokers are made out to be worshippers of Satan yet there are tv programs which make binge drinking a source of entertainment. " I think most people accept that alcohol is also a huge burden on the NHS. I'm not sure of the logic of the point you are trying to make | |||
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"The logic is clear. At what point do we say the state has interfered too much? Alcohol, diy, sports, crossing the road....all dangerous and costly to the NHS. " But its against the law to drink and drive and drinking alcohol outside is banned in many city centres and parks. Banning smoking in parks will just bring that into line with the alcohol ban. Both are anti social habits so why is just one of them banned ? | |||
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"I think it's a good idea but probably unworkable. If your sat in the middle of a field having a smoke with no one about who really cares. But smoking near the swings and slides then maybe you should be pulled up on it. In Singapore there are painted areas where people can smoke I like this idea. Put all the addicts in a designated area to indulge in there habit. Then hopefully all the litter would be consigned to one place as well. " this is the answer.. the smokers should have a sealed compartment where they gather. Of course an inbuilt air filter to protect none smokers would be required.. they could puff away in content and enjoy with a clear social conscience.. | |||
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"hate smokers! plenty of times ive had arguements with people for blowing smoke in my face, or holding a cig next to my childs face. The upmost pointless money wasteful habbit alongside drugs.. might as well just roll up at 10 n smoke it lol Everyone loves to comment about cost of smoking to NHS and that its a wasteful habit. Well what about drinking and its cost to the emergency services? The families ruined by alcohol whether it be a d*unk abusive father or some child hit by d*unk driver and killed? Smokers are made out to be worshippers of Satan yet there are tv programs which make binge drinking a source of entertainment. " Never once mentioned NHS! I was talking about how many people chose a fag over a packet of nappies!!Or if they have no children a fag over having paid the bills | |||
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"Miss j I know you hadnt mentioned NHS yours was shorter to quote about how it was a wasteful habit. Crystal the point I was trying to raise is how smoking has seemed to have had a witch hunt against it for many years while drinking has continued to remain acceptable. If the goverment is looking to reduce money spent on the effects of a drug then alcohol should be higher on their list." The post is to do with smoking. Everyone knows the implications of both and people still indulge in both lol. I simply find it wasteful money as so many people seem to find the time to moan about not making ends meet yet can still afford to smoke which happens to be a very expensive habit. | |||
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"The logic is clear. At what point do we say the state has interfered too much? Alcohol, diy, sports, crossing the road....all dangerous and costly to the NHS. But its against the law to drink and drive and drinking alcohol outside is banned in many city centres and parks. Banning smoking in parks will just bring that into line with the alcohol ban. Both are anti social habits so why is just one of them banned ? " Because, realistically, smoking outside is not antisocial. There is plenty of room and plenty of air. If I take a picnic into a park, I can't have an alcoholic drink. Because pissheads spoilt it. Why not, and this might sound left of field, arrest the people who are d*unk and disorderly and allow others to enjoy themselves? This is nothing to do with public health. This is about further and further control of the population. It will be illegal to fart outdoors next. That's "antisocial" to. | |||
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"Ban them, dirty fuckers." Please explain why smoking is dirty. Just because you don't like it? | |||
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"The logic is clear. At what point do we say the state has interfered too much? Alcohol, diy, sports, crossing the road....all dangerous and costly to the NHS. But its against the law to drink and drive and drinking alcohol outside is banned in many city centres and parks. Banning smoking in parks will just bring that into line with the alcohol ban. Both are anti social habits so why is just one of them banned ? Because, realistically, smoking outside is not antisocial. There is plenty of room and plenty of air. If I take a picnic into a park, I can't have an alcoholic drink. Because pissheads spoilt it. Why not, and this might sound left of field, arrest the people who are d*unk and disorderly and allow others to enjoy themselves? This is nothing to do with public health. This is about further and further control of the population. It will be illegal to fart outdoors next. That's "antisocial" to." Smoking outside is anti social Some pub gardens in the summer can be packed solid with smokers This summer,gorgeous day,garden full of all ages,every single table except 2 had smokers on them,the first table was next to a bloke smoking a stinking cigar which was blowing right towards me so I moved Next table they were all smoking rollies,I can deal with that,then someone lit up a spliff,we left and went elsewhere......granted it was a wetherspoons we were in | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple " Why are you so aggressive | |||
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"The logic is clear. At what point do we say the state has interfered too much? Alcohol, diy, sports, crossing the road....all dangerous and costly to the NHS. But its against the law to drink and drive and drinking alcohol outside is banned in many city centres and parks. Banning smoking in parks will just bring that into line with the alcohol ban. Both are anti social habits so why is just one of them banned ? Because, realistically, smoking outside is not antisocial. There is plenty of room and plenty of air. If I take a picnic into a park, I can't have an alcoholic drink. Because pissheads spoilt it. Why not, and this might sound left of field, arrest the people who are d*unk and disorderly and allow others to enjoy themselves? This is nothing to do with public health. This is about further and further control of the population. It will be illegal to fart outdoors next. That's "antisocial" to. Smoking outside is anti social Some pub gardens in the summer can be packed solid with smokers This summer,gorgeous day,garden full of all ages,every single table except 2 had smokers on them,the first table was next to a bloke smoking a stinking cigar which was blowing right towards me so I moved Next table they were all smoking rollies,I can deal with that,then someone lit up a spliff,we left and went elsewhere......granted it was a wetherspoons we were in " you should know that if you don't smoke any smoke seems to come your way well it does to me | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive " Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it " I agree if you choose to smoke so be it. but you should have respect for someone that chooses not to smoke and not annoy them | |||
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"as a non smoker, I think it is nonsense. " us too its nanny state gone bananas lol | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it I agree if you choose to smoke so be it. but you should have respect for someone that chooses not to smoke and not annoy them " So then them people bitching about my smoking isn't annoying? ???? | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it " Now that just shows you up for being a pratt because some complains you are potentially risking their health and you intentionally would do it more pathetic | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it " You might not be aggressive but somewhere along the line you are full of shit as your profile says you are a non smoker | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it You might not be aggressive but somewhere along the line you are full of shit as your profile says you are a non smoker " My bad i set this profile up on my cell phone i honestly dont remember seeing a a section for smoking that explains why i see profiles that say wont meet smokers i will fix that for you i am not full of bullshit i say what is on my mind its might right freedom of speech | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it You might not be aggressive but somewhere along the line you are full of shit as your profile says you are a non smoker " Ha ha ha ha! | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it " So...you're not only aggressive you're confrontational as well What a pleasant man | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it So...you're not only aggressive you're confrontational as well What a pleasant man " I aim to please | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it You might not be aggressive but somewhere along the line you are full of shit as your profile says you are a non smoker My bad i set this profile up on my cell phone i honestly dont remember seeing a a section for smoking that explains why i see profiles that say wont meet smokers i will fix that for you i am not full of bullshit i say what is on my mind its might right freedom of speech " No such thing as freedom of speech lol | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it You might not be aggressive but somewhere along the line you are full of shit as your profile says you are a non smoker My bad i set this profile up on my cell phone i honestly dont remember seeing a a section for smoking that explains why i see profiles that say wont meet smokers i will fix that for you i am not full of bullshit i say what is on my mind its might right freedom of speech " i agree with freedom of speech but if you have something wrong on your profile the forum will pick up on it have fun | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it You might not be aggressive but somewhere along the line you are full of shit as your profile says you are a non smoker My bad i set this profile up on my cell phone i honestly dont remember seeing a a section for smoking that explains why i see profiles that say wont meet smokers i will fix that for you i am not full of bullshit i say what is on my mind its might right freedom of speech i agree with freedom of speech but if you have something wrong on your profile the forum will pick up on it have fun " It was a honest mistake i am a very proud smoker | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple " Clearly you are a pleasant considerate guy and having rwad your profile a very health conscious individual. Lol. | |||
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"Why does every fuckin post end up like this for fuck sake just got home from work and checked my post and oh look rowdiness why is everyone so mardy on here " and you're not! Smoking threads always end up heated.....no pun intended | |||
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"Why does every fuckin post end up like this for fuck sake just got home from work and checked my post and oh look rowdiness why is everyone so mardy on here " We think you opened a very good thread, why are you so clearly upset and useing aggressive language when everyone has entered into the debate with such passion? | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Clearly you are a pleasant considerate guy and having rwad your profile a very health conscious individual. Lol. " I do 12 Ounce curls daily,eat a lot of red meat , and smoke two packs a day i live a very happy life | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Clearly you are a pleasant considerate guy and having rwad your profile a very health conscious individual. Lol. I do 12 Ounce curls daily,eat a lot of red meat , and smoke two packs a day i live a very happy life " | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Clearly you are a pleasant considerate guy and having rwad your profile a very health conscious individual. Lol. I do 12 Ounce curls daily,eat a lot of red meat , and smoke two packs a day i live a very happy life " Guessong that a 12 ounce curl is something healthy that you eat? | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Clearly you are a pleasant considerate guy and having rwad your profile a very health conscious individual. Lol. I do 12 Ounce curls daily,eat a lot of red meat , and smoke two packs a day i live a very happy life Guessong that a 12 ounce curl is something healthy that you eat? " Yeah busch light beer. We have jacked this thread enough puff puff pass enjoy | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Clearly you are a pleasant considerate guy and having rwad your profile a very health conscious individual. Lol. I do 12 Ounce curls daily,eat a lot of red meat , and smoke two packs a day i live a very happy life Guessong that a 12 ounce curl is something healthy that you eat? Yeah busch light beer. We have jacked this thread enough puff puff pass enjoy " Is the puff puff your breathing?? | |||
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"Light it up puff puff pass pass if you dont like it kiss my ass that simple Why are you so aggressive Not aggressive just speaking my mind on this subject. If someone starts complaining about me smoking i make every point to get as close to them as i can i dint complain about their choices in life leave my choices out of it You might not be aggressive but somewhere along the line you are full of shit as your profile says you are a non smoker My bad i set this profile up on my cell phone i honestly dont remember seeing a a section for smoking that explains why i see profiles that say wont meet smokers i will fix that for you i am not full of bullshit i say what is on my mind its might right freedom of speech i agree with freedom of speech but if you have something wrong on your profile the forum will pick up on it have fun It was a honest mistake i am a very proud smoker " A proud smoker? | |||
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"The logic is clear. At what point do we say the state has interfered too much? Alcohol, diy, sports, crossing the road....all dangerous and costly to the NHS. But its against the law to drink and drive and drinking alcohol outside is banned in many city centres and parks. Banning smoking in parks will just bring that into line with the alcohol ban. Both are anti social habits so why is just one of them banned ? Because, realistically, smoking outside is not antisocial. There is plenty of room and plenty of air. If I take a picnic into a park, I can't have an alcoholic drink. Because pissheads spoilt it. Why not, and this might sound left of field, arrest the people who are d*unk and disorderly and allow others to enjoy themselves? This is nothing to do with public health. This is about further and further control of the population. It will be illegal to fart outdoors next. That's "antisocial" to. Smoking outside is anti social Some pub gardens in the summer can be packed solid with smokers This summer,gorgeous day,garden full of all ages,every single table except 2 had smokers on them,the first table was next to a bloke smoking a stinking cigar which was blowing right towards me so I moved Next table they were all smoking rollies,I can deal with that,then someone lit up a spliff,we left and went elsewhere......granted it was a wetherspoons we were in " I'm sorry but I cannot have any sympathy with anyone who uses a Wetherspoons. I think the beer, food and violence that occurs in them is far more dangerous to your health! Seriously though, a lot of this could have been avoided by simply having a smoking room in pubs. I have been in airports that had indoor smoking rooms. Bloody big ones with tall ceilings and decent air extraction units, and you wouldnt have known it was a smoking room. | |||
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" Slightly off topic, but if the Government or powers that be wish to stop smoking in public parks, will they also have a word with the Council who annually build a big fuck off bonfire each year? " And can they stop the use of ALL vehicles in city centres that use diesel or petrol. If they are so concerned about our health, then they should really be attacking the main culprit in spewing out carcinogens, carbon monoxide and nanoparticulates. | |||
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" Slightly off topic, but if the Government or powers that be wish to stop smoking in public parks, will they also have a word with the Council who annually build a big fuck off bonfire each year? And can they stop the use of ALL vehicles in city centres that use diesel or petrol. If they are so concerned about our health, then they should really be attacking the main culprit in spewing out carcinogens, carbon monoxide and nanoparticulates." Give em some credit though, they have arranged for all their personal vehicles to be parked in exceedingly cheap and enclosed car parks right besides their workplace ( i say that loosely)in order to reduce the damage to the rest of us who have to park a mile from town and walk in. | |||
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" Slightly off topic, but if the Government or powers that be wish to stop smoking in public parks, will they also have a word with the Council who annually build a big fuck off bonfire each year? And can they stop the use of ALL vehicles in city centres that use diesel or petrol. If they are so concerned about our health, then they should really be attacking the main culprit in spewing out carcinogens, carbon monoxide and nanoparticulates. Give em some credit though, they have arranged for all their personal vehicles to be parked in exceedingly cheap and enclosed car parks right besides their workplace ( i say that loosely)in order to reduce the damage to the rest of us who have to park a mile from town and walk in. " Now now....its for your own good! | |||
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"Im an ex smoker so apparently im the worst of the worst I can't see how banning smoking in parks is going to be enforceable though,who wants the job of getting abuse all day for telling people to stop smoking? " Similar to So called at (the time)when smokeing laws Came in in 2007 cicarette wardens were so Supposed to patrol the out doors to Issue Fines to folks dropping the stub ends on The floor £50 fine for each one I can Imagine plenty of abuse there " Its no good guv I,ve got you on web cam" The Outcry from that and the revinue made but I believe anyone who clears there rubbish Up Is trying to behave In a lawful way and Out doors ban Is going to far even thou I don,t smoke myself. | |||
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"As a non smoker it can't come any sooner its your choice to smoke and it should be my choice not to breath in all the toxins which is really hard if someone lights up in a busy bus station for example. If you choose to smoke then you should respect other people around you. " surely any toxins disapate into the atmosphere or rise quickly From ground level In enclosed area,s it Can,t Escape passive smokeing almost it used to be where non smokers were. | |||
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"I'm a nom smoker, I don't mind those that do, it's there choice...... However I do find it crass of the government and health officials to bleet on about cutting the numbers of smokers when the tax revenue generated is such that if all smokers suddenly have up the country would be insolvent!!!! Is the tax on cigarettes more or less than the cost to the NHS treating smoking related diseases? I'm a non smoker and think this is too far, people should be able to smoke outdoors if they wish but do agree the ends should be disposed of correctly No. Smokers contribute something like ten times in tax what it costs to treat smoking related diseases But they are trying to stop people smoking, The taxes will just be moved onto something else to generate money If they really wanted to stop people smoking then they would ban the manufacture and sale of cigarettes in the UK. As our borders are pretty porous, people will be able to buy illegal cigarettes and the tax revenue would drop dramatically. Clearly it would be moved to something else & in about 30 years we would see the benefit in reduced lung cancer and its impact on our health system! I don't advocate smoking, but I have smoked (until it was legal!) and I think banning it in public and open spaces is totally ludicrous. The nanny state needs to step back from always trying to control people & allow for personal responsibilty - not a rant, just shaking my head in incredulity " Well that is exactly what is happening now they are struggling with the manufacture against outdoor overseas production in cicarettes here in the uk one of the biggest filter tip manufacturers closed down 2 years ago next month november 2012 In their heyday they made enormous capital but now that comes from turkey, mexico, china, usa, from the top to the bottom of the site different Industrys have dissapeared over the years where there was 100% just 10% still working unrelated to Cicarettes. | |||
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"Population = about 60,000,000 (60 million). About 25% of the population smoke. Taxation on tobacco products about 90% 30 cigarettes per day = about £300 per month. So... £270 * 12 = £3240 * 15,000,000 = £48,600,000,000 = 48 BILLION 600 Million quid tax revenue from smokers. The NHS service costs (apparently) about £110 BILLION. So it could be suggested that just one quarter of the population is paying almost half of the total NHS bill but that is also in addition to the normal NHS contributions that non-smokers pay. Now it gets interesting... Stop smoking totally and totally cut off the tax revenue from it and... everyone of the 60 million population will have to pay an extra £810 each per year to make up the short fall " I feel better now Now where's me bloody cigs | |||
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