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By *eavenNhell OP   Couple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

See Katie Hopkins has now waded into the maddy McCann debate on twitter claiming that negligence is behind all their grief after this weeks events thoughts ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

KH is a horrible piece of work with her head well & truly up her own arse.

That's my thoughts, - what a snob!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Leave the family alone - they have suffered enough x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Leave the family alone - they have suffered enough x"

This.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Katie Hopkins is so desperate for media exposure she deliberately looks for things to say and cause controversy yo get that exposure. Vile woman

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By *eerobCouple
over a year ago

solihull

The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really feel the McCanns should be left alone now, and KH shouldn't be given the airtime, her entire 'career' is just based on saying vile things about people, why do we fall for it every time?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened."

I completely agree. What I found despicable about their conduct was that , given their professions, they should have known better.

Is this something they did on a regular basis when at home in England?

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By *reasyontheeyesMan
over a year ago

out in the sticks


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She hasn't said anything that half the population have already said in the past few yrs

Yaawwwwwmnnnnn

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened."

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By *lttattoocoupleCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

I can't stand her either but it's true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

love her or hate her she has an opinion that invariably gets people talking and for that reason she will always get airtime. On this topic, while the outcome was horrendous, I'm afraid she is right, leaving your kids unattended at that age in any circumstance is not right.

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

What for telling the truth

However if its abuse you want it can be arranged 30mins £5 60 mins £10

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

Absolutely CORRECT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

I completely agree. What I found despicable about their conduct was that , given their professions, they should have known better.

Is this something they did on a regular basis when at home in England?

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They were left all the time on that holiday, wondered why they bothered to take them away

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

I'm not going to give you or anyone abuse for holding an opinion but it isn't just the parents there are nine year old twins who deserve as normal a life as possible and all the time their parents are hounded wont get it.

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never thought I would agree with KH but she's speaking sence for once

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By *attooed bitchCouple
over a year ago

belfast

When working class people make mistakes it is neglect but when the upper classes do the same its sympathy they receive. Wrong is wrong, period even for two doctors.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

No public figure gets 'left alone' these days. It's the way of the media world.

The reason why the McCanns are public figures is highly unusual but they can't expect to get different treatment (scrutiny) to everyone else.

It would be preferential for their twins to live a normal private life but when the parents are putting themselves front and centre of the media then they are not choosing a normal private life (no matter what the reasons are).

People don't care about nuance. If you're in the papers, people will talk about you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened."

Do you honestly believe that they need telling that?

I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!!

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By *eerobCouple
over a year ago

solihull


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

I'm not going to give you or anyone abuse for holding an opinion but it isn't just the parents there are nine year old twins who deserve as normal a life as possible and all the time their parents are hounded wont get it. "

If the Mcanns version of events is to be believed then it is understandable to keep hunting for Daddy. However it is them that are constantly keeping the affair in the public areana. Perhaps they should stop litigation against everyone they can sue, and think of their remaining kids and now keep out of the news and get on with their lives?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

Do you honestly believe that they need telling that?

I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!! "

What they did was hardly slightly neglectful....but for curiosity, what is your definition of " slightly neglectful"

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By *eerobCouple
over a year ago

solihull


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

Do you honestly believe that they need telling that?

I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!! "

I understand your point and I am not saying they have never apologised for letting Maddy down but I have never seen or heard them reproach themselves at all. They are always blaming others for not sorting out the mess they caused. Everyone has probably done irresponsible actions in life and with their children, the sad fact is that when it goes wrong in the first instance it is your own fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

Do you honestly believe that they need telling that?

I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!!

What they did was hardly slightly neglectful....but for curiosity, what is your definition of " slightly neglectful""
what's yours?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

Do you honestly believe that they need telling that?

I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!!

What they did was hardly slightly neglectful....but for curiosity, what is your definition of " slightly neglectful" what's yours?"

I am asking you because you brought it up...

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By *layfull pairingCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Who is katie Hopkins ? i must be getting old... ive never even heard of her..... Prob a good thing tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What they done was wrong and selfish. They put their social life before the safety and well being of their children.

If it was in this country and they tucked them up in bed and walked to the local pub surely this would be classed as neglect?

In saying that they have suffered more than I hope anyone else would ever have to so what's the point in some minor celebrity troll adding her two pence worth now.

That's all she is a troll in a designer dress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

Do you honestly believe that they need telling that?

I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!!

What they did was hardly slightly neglectful....but for curiosity, what is your definition of " slightly neglectful""

This~they were left all the time! Hardly slightly neglectful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I never thought I would agree with KH but she's speaking sence for once "

Agreed..she usually talks shit but she's only saying what probably a lot of people are thinking.

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"What they done was wrong and selfish. They put their social life before the safety and well being of their children.

If it was in this country and they tucked them up in bed and walked to the local pub surely this would be classed as neglect?

In saying that they have suffered more than I hope anyone else would ever have to so what's the point in some minor celebrity troll adding her two pence worth now.

That's all she is a troll in a designer dress "

They have suffered but if they choose to keep such a high profile with the story what else can they expect!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What they done was wrong and selfish. They put their social life before the safety and well being of their children.

If it was in this country and they tucked them up in bed and walked to the local pub surely this would be classed as neglect?

In saying that they have suffered more than I hope anyone else would ever have to so what's the point in some minor celebrity troll adding her two pence worth now.

That's all she is a troll in a designer dress

They have suffered but if they choose to keep such a high profile with the story what else can they expect! "

They kept it in the media for the simple fact that they want their child found. Not for five minutes of fame

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would be preferential for their twins to live a normal private life but when the parents are putting themselves front and centre of the media then they are not choosing a normal private life (no matter what the reasons are)."

Precisely.


"I understand your point and I am not saying they have never apologised for letting Maddy down but I have never seen or heard them reproach themselves at all. They are always blaming others for not sorting out the mess they caused. Everyone has probably done irresponsible actions in life and with their children, the sad fact is that when it goes wrong in the first instance it is your own fault."

I agree. I have never once seen them show any remorse for leaving their children unattended. If anything, they have defended themselves for doing so.

Personally, and speaking as a parent myself, I can't imagine what possessed them to do such a thing. I'm not even comfortable with popping into my garage to get a screwdriver when my kids are with me - and it's joined to the side of the house!


"What they done was wrong and selfish. They put their social life before the safety and well being of their children.

If it was in this country and they tucked them up in bed and walked to the local pub surely this would be classed as neglect?"

...and Social Services would no doubt have gotten involved and may have brought care proceedings against them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

I would imagine those thoughts have gone through their own heads a million times on many a sleepless night, does it need a self serving mouthpiece like KH to point it out to them again? These are two people who are in the public eye because they've lost their daughter and they're trying everything to get her back, they're not celebrities who are to be used to raise someone else's profile.

PS I'm not having a go at you, I just think it's a little sick that people feel they can abuse this couple via twitter or or use them to get their name trending like KH.

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By *erbyshire BobMan
over a year ago

derby

Who's Katie Hopkins???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Really feel the McCanns should be left alone now, and KH shouldn't be given the airtime, her entire 'career' is just based on saying vile things about people, why do we fall for it every time?!"

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By *erbyshire BobMan
over a year ago

derby


"Who is katie Hopkins ? i must be getting old... ive never even heard of her..... Prob a good thing tho "

Glad I'm not the only one ignorant of this person!

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By *erbyshire BobMan
over a year ago

derby


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened."

Agreed, but how many parents look back and think "there but for the grace of God, go I?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Negligent and irresponsible parents who get given an opinion by a fame-whore? Both don't deserve any media time.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

She's a nasty piece of work and seems to have the need for publicity. She's like an internet troll but gets invited onto This Morning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the parents were off some council estate wearing chavy clothes they would have been treated totally different "Fact"

They are two Doctors and that seems to change everything

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

The simple fact is that they left their children alone to go out and as a consequence one of their children went missing. I've seen the book thrown at parents who did the same thing (note their children did not go missing). I don't like what KH stands for never have never will but as stated there are many people who have said the same thing..the only difference is they said it behind closed doors.

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"What they done was wrong and selfish. They put their social life before the safety and well being of their children.

If it was in this country and they tucked them up in bed and walked to the local pub surely this would be classed as neglect?

In saying that they have suffered more than I hope anyone else would ever have to so what's the point in some minor celebrity troll adding her two pence worth now.

That's all she is a troll in a designer dress

They have suffered but if they choose to keep such a high profile with the story what else can they expect!

They kept it in the media for the simple fact that they want their child found. Not for five minutes of fame"

Unfortunately they seem to have profited from such a bad thing that

they originally had control over .

That is why so many people dislike them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

True but I would imagine that would be hard to do. When you don't know where your daughter is and if she is alive or dead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Minor celebrity from the apprentice who has since made a living from being controversial won't let her children play with other children with a common name etc she is putting four stones on just now to show fat people how easy it is to lose weight horrid woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never thought I would agree with anything she said!

I can't imagine what the McCanns are going through but I have little sympathy for them! Its their children I feel sorry for. They no doubt have lots of questions they'll never have answers to.

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By *hrissie1961Woman
over a year ago

dumfries and galloway


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

Do you honestly believe that they need telling that?

I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!! "

There is nothing slight about leaving three under 5 year olds in a room/apartment whilst you go off having dinner with friends.

I feel sorry for them, because they will have to live with that fact for the rest of their lives.

I do believe they have been treated differently than some other parents who don't have such a high social standing tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

Do you honestly believe that they need telling that?

I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!!

What they did was hardly slightly neglectful....but for curiosity, what is your definition of " slightly neglectful" what's yours?

I am asking you because you brought it up... "

my idea of slightly neglectful is the time my ex took our daughter who was then 5/6 ish into index (yes this was a while ago lol) and walked out after leaving her watching some cartoon on the display a TV

putting your pre school kids to bed and walking out and leaving them for a night out is simply niglect

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By *eerobCouple
over a year ago

solihull


"True but I would imagine that would be hard to do. When you don't know where your daughter is and if she is alive or dead "

If or when Maddy is found is the only way we will find out whether they do or don't know where she is? Tin hat firmly on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I never thought I would agree with anything she said!

I can't imagine what the McCanns are going through but I have little sympathy for them! Its their children I feel sorry for. They no doubt have lots of questions they'll never have answers to."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im sure nobody will have gone over those events more than the parents. I'm pretty sure they will feel negligent - like we all would have . All those " if only we'd just..." Moments . Don't think they need anyone else discussing this . Just opening up wounds for personal PR . The woman is an absolute abomination of a human being . If only we were able to trade her to get maddy back !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As unpleasant as it is to consider, I sadly suspect that anything that keeps the McCanns in the public eye and also let's them play the victim card is not viewed as an entirely negative thing by them

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By *atasha_DavidCouple
over a year ago

Slough


"They were left all the time on that holiday, wondered why they bothered to take them away "

As were the children of their friends they were holidaying with.

As did numerous other couples at the same resort with the same tour operator.

But their kids didn't disappear and nobody remembers their names.

Lucky them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now. "

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester

What they did was of there own act's but when someone as a opinion they get hunted down to where they commit suicide that's two people that have died under the mccans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What they did was of there own act's but when someone as a opinion they get hunted down to where they commit suicide that's two people that have died under the mccans"

One person

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What they did was of there own act's but when someone as a opinion they get hunted down to where they commit suicide that's two people that have died under the mccans"

Is Maddie dead? Do you know this? Wow how come no one else knows?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont like her either but on this occassion shes right those children (at the time all under the age of 3) should not have been left alone, any parent in their right mind knows that and they have only themselves to blame!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well the apprentice is due to start soon so she's getting her (ugly) face out there.

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester

Some people on here its my opinion how many on this forum think she is still alive or dead

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By *.nottsbloke..Man
over a year ago

the vale

Had to Google who she is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Had to Google who she is"

Did you google the words vile media whore? That should bring her name up

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"Some people on here its my opinion how many on this forum think she is still alive or dead"

As much as I would hope she is alive sadly the reality of it that she has been dead for a long time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They failed their child, sure they're living to regret it. Don't know who this 'celeb' is but I'm sure this thread is like many more publicity angles, making more fame and offers of z list come to her table, so to speak!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They failed their child, sure they're living to regret it. Don't know who this 'celeb' is but I'm sure this thread is like many more publicity angles, making more fame and offers of z list come to her table, so to speak! "

The z listers do it all the time not for the subject matter just to get their name in the press.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people on here its my opinion how many on this forum think she is still alive or dead"

I think she died in the hotel room.

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over a year ago

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By *ratty_DamselWoman
over a year ago

Greater London


"Really feel the McCanns should be left alone now, and KH shouldn't be given the airtime, her entire 'career' is just based on saying vile things about people, why do we fall for it every time?!"

Agree 100%.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I never thought I would agree with anything she said!

I can't imagine what the McCanns are going through but I have little sympathy for them! Its their children I feel sorry for. They no doubt have lots of questions they'll never have answers to.

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The parents are getting what they deserve, is Maddies enjoying a normal life if shes still alive!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

Not from me you wont

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hate the woman, I mean hate her with a passion, but on this occasion she is completely 100% correct. If the parents hadn't left 3 children alone in a hotel room, in a foreign country so they could go for dinner or whatever this would not have happened. There is more than meets the eye to this case. Complete negligence on they're part anyway!! They should have had the twins taken off of them I think!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate the woman, I mean hate her with a passion, but on this occasion she is completely 100% correct. If the parents hadn't left 3 children alone in a hotel room, in a foreign country so they could go for dinner or whatever this would not have happened. There is more than meets the eye to this case. Complete negligence on they're part anyway!! They should have had the twins taken off of them I think!"

Exactly my thoughts on the matter theres are people out there that have had their children taken.away for far less! It was sheer neglect brought on by their own selfishness, I know that my kids come first and foremost id never dream of leaving my kids alone like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people on here its my opinion how many on this forum think she is still alive or dead

I think she died in the hotel room."

I agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate the woman, I mean hate her with a passion, but on this occasion she is completely 100% correct. If the parents hadn't left 3 children alone in a hotel room, in a foreign country so they could go for dinner or whatever this would not have happened. There is more than meets the eye to this case. Complete negligence on they're part anyway!! They should have had the twins taken off of them I think!

Exactly my thoughts on the matter theres are people out there that have had their children taken.away for far less! It was sheer neglect brought on by their own selfishness, I know that my kids come first and foremost id never dream of leaving my kids alone like that"

Theres also people such as Baby Ps mother who beat their child to death practically in front of social services and they still left him with her

I don't think anyone in the world has torn themselves apart because of a bad decision more than the McCanns,I think they probably realise they have paid the ultimate price and I doubt they have a days peace for the rest of their lives anyway

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By *eaverfeverCouple
over a year ago

nr Manchester

Actually agree, and I also agree with most of what KH says, although she does make me cringe sometimes with what she says, she's just publicly saying what most are thinking, made me laugh when she goes on about kids names (but that's another thread)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate the woman, I mean hate her with a passion, but on this occasion she is completely 100% correct. If the parents hadn't left 3 children alone in a hotel room, in a foreign country so they could go for dinner or whatever this would not have happened. There is more than meets the eye to this case. Complete negligence on they're part anyway!! They should have had the twins taken off of them I think!

Exactly my thoughts on the matter theres are people out there that have had their children taken.away for far less! It was sheer neglect brought on by their own selfishness, I know that my kids come first and foremost id never dream of leaving my kids alone like that

Theres also people such as Baby Ps mother who beat their child to death practically in front of social services and they still left him with her

I don't think anyone in the world has torn themselves apart because of a bad decision more than the McCanns,I think they probably realise they have paid the ultimate price and I doubt they have a days peace for the rest of their lives anyway"

Anyone who shows any sign of harming a child, be it through physical violence, mental bullying or neglect or any other way for that matter deserve to have they're children taken awayfrom them. Just happens to be that the McCanns case has been highly publicised.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im bored of our saturation media.

I wonder what stories are being buried under this?

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By *eaverfeverCouple
over a year ago

nr Manchester

Oh yes definitely, yes they have had it very very tough but I'm absolutely sure that if it was a single parent jobless mother she would have probably had the twins taken from her, doesn't matter what background people are from, we all feel same love for our kids.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now. "

It is true, and they deserved some extra notoriety for exploiting Max Clifford's publicity machine but they have paid a very heavy price and enough is enough. The media should now leave them alone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The subject of the McCanns is an emotive one and I'm not surprised that the publicity hungry Katie Hopkins giving her public opinion on this. It is nothing new that hasn't been said before.

Whilst I feel that the McCanns' judgement to leave their children without a babysitter in the same room was flawed, many holiday companies abroad offered a similar babysitting monitoring service and hundreds of families took advantage of this. Abductions are rare and unfortunately the McCanns have paid the highest price ever.

Its all down to perception of risk, some people would take a dim view of inviting strangers off the internet over to the house for sex whilst the kids are in bed, a very high risk activity, after all you don't know the history of that person, could be a paedophile or a seriel killer, others think its an unlikely scenario and want to put their own fun first. I expect the McCanns never thought an abduction was very likely either.

Leaving children alone in the evening on holiday was a risk I personally couldnt take, but there were many others who thought it acceptable and it wasn't unusual. Its only when a tragedy like this happens, and it is a rarity, that we rethink our actions.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

It is true, and they deserved some extra notoriety for exploiting Max Clifford's publicity machine but they have paid a very heavy price and enough is enough. The media should now leave them alone."

There's a good rule of thumb that says anyone hiring Max Clifford is almost certainly guilty.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

When I was 9 we went to Pontins where they offered a child listening service, you left your child in the chalet and a blue coat walked round listening to hear if they were crying. Loads of parents used this so that they could attend the evening entertainment although my parents didn't.

I don't need to point out the dangers inherent in this system but what the McCanns did is nothing new and they are not alone in having done it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I was 9 we went to Pontins where they offered a child listening service, you left your child in the chalet and a blue coat walked round listening to hear if they were crying. Loads of parents used this so that they could attend the evening entertainment although my parents didn't.

I don't need to point out the dangers inherent in this system but what the McCanns did is nothing new and they are not alone in having done it."

But they didnt use the babysitting service did they. They just left their kids in a room while they enjoyed themselves. Ok, they took it in turns to check on them but that isn't good enough in my opinion. Going on holiday with your children is that, you go on holiday to spend time with your children. If they had wanted some kid free time, there was enough of them to take it in turns each night to let one couple have time to themselves while the others had the kids.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"When I was 9 we went to Pontins where they offered a child listening service, you left your child in the chalet and a blue coat walked round listening to hear if they were crying. Loads of parents used this so that they could attend the evening entertainment although my parents didn't.

I don't need to point out the dangers inherent in this system but what the McCanns did is nothing new and they are not alone in having done it.

But they didnt use the babysitting service did they. They just left their kids in a room while they enjoyed themselves. Ok, they took it in turns to check on them but that isn't good enough in my opinion. Going on holiday with your children is that, you go on holiday to spend time with your children. If they had wanted some kid free time, there was enough of them to take it in turns each night to let one couple have time to themselves while the others had the kids. "

I don't think a blue coat walking round an entire holiday camp is any safer than your mum or dad nipping back to check on you really.

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By *arehamMan
over a year ago

handforth

I've said from day one you would not go out a leave your wallet,on the table and leave the door unlocked.you have three of the most things you love in the world and you leave the door unlocked,what if they woke up crying and they got up and no one was there how would they feel.like some one else had said if they had been from a council estate there would have been drawn across the coals,but I hope to god she is alive somewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I was 9 we went to Pontins where they offered a child listening service, you left your child in the chalet and a blue coat walked round listening to hear if they were crying. Loads of parents used this so that they could attend the evening entertainment although my parents didn't.

I don't need to point out the dangers inherent in this system but what the McCanns did is nothing new and they are not alone in having done it.

But they didnt use the babysitting service did they. They just left their kids in a room while they enjoyed themselves. Ok, they took it in turns to check on them but that isn't good enough in my opinion. Going on holiday with your children is that, you go on holiday to spend time with your children. If they had wanted some kid free time, there was enough of them to take it in turns each night to let one couple have time to themselves while the others had the kids.

I don't think a blue coat walking round an entire holiday camp is any safer than your mum or dad nipping back to check on you really.

"

Neither do I which is why I would never hire hotel babysitters.

Those children must have been used to being left alone. My son would be petrified being left alone in his own house let alone an apartment on holiday, he would have screamed the place down!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"When I was 9 we went to Pontins where they offered a child listening service, you left your child in the chalet and a blue coat walked round listening to hear if they were crying. Loads of parents used this so that they could attend the evening entertainment although my parents didn't.

I don't need to point out the dangers inherent in this system but what the McCanns did is nothing new and they are not alone in having done it.

But they didnt use the babysitting service did they. They just left their kids in a room while they enjoyed themselves. Ok, they took it in turns to check on them but that isn't good enough in my opinion. Going on holiday with your children is that, you go on holiday to spend time with your children. If they had wanted some kid free time, there was enough of them to take it in turns each night to let one couple have time to themselves while the others had the kids.

I don't think a blue coat walking round an entire holiday camp is any safer than your mum or dad nipping back to check on you really.

Neither do I which is why I would never hire hotel babysitters.

Those children must have been used to being left alone. My son would be petrified being left alone in his own house let alone an apartment on holiday, he would have screamed the place down! "

I wouldn't leave my kids alone or with strangers....EVER........but plenty did and still do, from all walks of life. Loads of parents allow young kids out of sight to play, to run to the corner shop or leave them in bed while they drop a partner at work or the station. It happens happens all the time because no one thinks it will ever happen to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

I completely agree. What I found despicable about their conduct was that , given their professions, they should have known better.

Is this something they did on a regular basis when at home in England?

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Exactly, and had they not been in their chosen professions I feel it would be a whole different story regarding their twins

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Ffs. All these fecking holier than though feckers.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Ffs. All these fecking holier than though feckers. "

I asked this on another thread but no one answered....is your comment aimed at the OP or the comments about a couple leaving their 3 young children in an open apartment while they went on the piss?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ffs. All these fecking holier than though feckers.

I asked this on another thread but no one answered....is your comment aimed at the OP or the comments about a couple leaving their 3 young children in an open apartment while they went on the piss?"

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Changing the subject slightly...did anyone see her on Celebrity Juice? A comedian and James Jorden ran rings round her....so maybe she is only any good with her rantings when she is behind a keyboard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"See Katie Hopkins has now waded into the maddy McCann debate on twitter claiming that negligence is behind all their grief after this weeks events thoughts ? "

My thought is that if they had not left the children alone while they were whooping it up with their friends, that we would not be having threads like this.

There is only one victim, and thats Maddy. Her parents were instrumental in her not being here.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Changing the subject slightly...did anyone see her on Celebrity Juice? A comedian and James Jorden ran rings round her....so maybe she is only any good with her rantings when she is behind a keyboard."

I heard about that, they pretty much put her in her place

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Ffs. All these fecking holier than though feckers.

I asked this on another thread but no one answered....is your comment aimed at the OP or the comments about a couple leaving their 3 young children in an open apartment while they went on the piss?"

It's directed at the likes of people like Katie Hopkins as mentioned in the original post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Changing the subject slightly...did anyone see her on Celebrity Juice? A comedian and James Jorden ran rings round her....so maybe she is only any good with her rantings when she is behind a keyboard."

I think she has possibly created a monster that she feels she has to maintain now because without the controversy no one would take any notice of her at all,she would be unmarketable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Changing the subject slightly...did anyone see her on Celebrity Juice? A comedian and James Jorden ran rings round her....so maybe she is only any good with her rantings when she is behind a keyboard.

I think she has possibly created a monster that she feels she has to maintain now because without the controversy no one would take any notice of her at all,she would be unmarketable"

Nice arse and funbags

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Changing the subject slightly...did anyone see her on Celebrity Juice? A comedian and James Jorden ran rings round her....so maybe she is only any good with her rantings when she is behind a keyboard.

I think she has possibly created a monster that she feels she has to maintain now because without the controversy no one would take any notice of her at all,she would be unmarketable

Nice arse and funbags "

Im sure katie hopkins will be glad you think that highly of her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Really feel the McCanns should be left alone now, and KH shouldn't be given the airtime, her entire 'career' is just based on saying vile things about people, why do we fall for it every time?!"
she's so unaware that she's only given media coverage because she's like a real life Borat. . She actually thinks her opinions cause people to change their views ! God i'd love to be that deluded !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Changing the subject slightly...did anyone see her on Celebrity Juice? A comedian and James Jorden ran rings round her....so maybe she is only any good with her rantings when she is behind a keyboard.

I think she has possibly created a monster that she feels she has to maintain now because without the controversy no one would take any notice of her at all,she would be unmarketable

Nice arse and funbags

Im sure katie hopkins will be glad you think that highly of her "

Yuk. She lives around here and looks worse in the flesh than she does on TV.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Really feel the McCanns should be left alone now, and KH shouldn't be given the airtime, her entire 'career' is just based on saying vile things about people, why do we fall for it every time?! she's so unaware that she's only given media coverage because she's like a real life Borat. . She actually thinks her opinions cause people to change their views ! God i'd love to be that deluded ! "

Maybe. But she certainly gets people talking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Really feel the McCanns should be left alone now, and KH shouldn't be given the airtime, her entire 'career' is just based on saying vile things about people, why do we fall for it every time?! she's so unaware that she's only given media coverage because she's like a real life Borat. . She actually thinks her opinions cause people to change their views ! God i'd love to be that deluded !

Maybe. But she certainly gets people talking "
so did joseph fritzal !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love her or loather her - she's right - the McCanns were negligent end of story.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love her or loather her - she's right - the McCanns were negligent end of story.

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Exactly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they are innocent of what happened, why havent there friends who was with them said anything but kept there mouths shut.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Really feel the McCanns should be left alone now, and KH shouldn't be given the airtime, her entire 'career' is just based on saying vile things about people, why do we fall for it every time?! she's so unaware that she's only given media coverage because she's like a real life Borat. . She actually thinks her opinions cause people to change their views ! God i'd love to be that deluded !

Maybe. But she certainly gets people talking so did joseph fritzal ! "

Yeah, but his only 2 subjects were DIY and incest. Katie has a plethora of things to wind people up about

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

innocent till proven guilty huh?

the police were also to blame in Portugal

Katie Hopkins is a vile woman anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She's a cunt but I like her ,I would love to hate fuck her ,slap her ass till it's red raw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've said from day one you would not go out a leave your wallet,on the table and leave the door unlocked.you have three of the most things you love in the world and you leave the door unlocked,what if they woke up crying and they got up and no one was there how would they feel.like some one else had said if they had been from a council estate there would have been drawn across the coals,but I hope to god she is alive somewhere. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"innocent till proven guilty huh?

the police were also to blame in Portugal

Katie Hopkins is a vile woman anyway"

The police left Maddy alone or kidnapped her?

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"innocent till proven guilty huh?

the police were also to blame in Portugal

Katie Hopkins is a vile woman anyway

The police left Maddy alone or kidnapped her? "

the police didn't take up on leads

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"innocent till proven guilty huh?

the police were also to blame in Portugal

Katie Hopkins is a vile woman anyway

The police left Maddy alone or kidnapped her?

the police didn't take up on leads"

So the McCanns are not at fault at all?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"innocent till proven guilty huh?

the police were also to blame in Portugal

Katie Hopkins is a vile woman anyway

The police left Maddy alone or kidnapped her?

the police didn't take up on leads"

The police tried to play the incident down cos they knew the effect it would have on tourism.

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"innocent till proven guilty huh?

the police were also to blame in Portugal

Katie Hopkins is a vile woman anyway

The police left Maddy alone or kidnapped her?

of course the mcanns are at fault too stupidity and selfishness putting their enjoyment before their children

the police didn't take up on leads

So the McCanns are not at fault at all?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

Do you honestly believe that they need telling that?

I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!!

What they did was hardly slightly neglectful....but for curiosity, what is your definition of " slightly neglectful" what's yours?

I am asking you because you brought it up... "
really? Read the above!

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

They are lucky they still have their twins in their lives that fateful night all of the children could've been taken!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

Do you honestly believe that they need telling that?

I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!!

What they did was hardly slightly neglectful....but for curiosity, what is your definition of " slightly neglectful" what's yours?

I am asking you because you brought it up... really? Read the above! "

I did, you said "I wonder if there's any parents out there who have never for one minute been slightly neglectful? No, of course not!!! " and why I asked the question.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now. "

When you make a mistake in life you either get away with it or you get caught and punished. They did not get away with it, they lost their daughter and people like you and thousandsw of others are prolonging their agony and damaging the two children left behind. They have suffered enough. let them and the surviving children live the rest of their life with their own demons. There is no need at all for all the "perfect model citizens" of this world to keep ramming it down their throat that it is their own fault - they are patently acutely aware of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

When you make a mistake in life you either get away with it or you get caught and punished. They did not get away with it, they lost their daughter and people like you and thousandsw of others are prolonging their agony and damaging the two children left behind. They have suffered enough. let them and the surviving children live the rest of their life with their own demons. There is no need at all for all the "perfect model citizens" of this world to keep ramming it down their throat that it is their own fault - they are patently acutely aware of it."

Are they? When have they ever been heard to acknowledge their neglect of their children on that night?

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

When you make a mistake in life you either get away with it or you get caught and punished. They did not get away with it, they lost their daughter and people like you and thousandsw of others are prolonging their agony and damaging the two children left behind. They have suffered enough. let them and the surviving children live the rest of their life with their own demons. There is no need at all for all the "perfect model citizens" of this world to keep ramming it down their throat that it is their own fault - they are patently acutely aware of it."

Hardly think they ate gonna know they are being discussed on a swingers forum so does it matter if people want to air there views on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

When you make a mistake in life you either get away with it or you get caught and punished. They did not get away with it, they lost their daughter and people like you and thousandsw of others are prolonging their agony and damaging the two children left behind. They have suffered enough. let them and the surviving children live the rest of their life with their own demons. There is no need at all for all the "perfect model citizens" of this world to keep ramming it down their throat that it is their own fault - they are patently acutely aware of it.

Are they? When have they ever been heard to acknowledge their neglect of their children on that night? "

I think this is what causes so much resentment. The lack of any public acknowledgement as to their own shortcomings in this tragic affair. They expect sympathy but only on their terms

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If only it hadn't happened I'd have been spared hearing of that loathsome creature KH.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If only it hadn't happened I'd have been spared hearing of that loathsome creature KH. "
indeed. . I never write anything that i wouldn't say in person . Would the folks in this thread stand in front of jerry and kate and tell them they were neglectful ? I'd happily say what i thought of medusa hopkins and tell her what she is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If only it hadn't happened I'd have been spared hearing of that loathsome creature KH. indeed. . I never write anything that i wouldn't say in person . Would the folks in this thread stand in front of jerry and kate and tell them they were neglectful ? I'd happily say what i thought of medusa hopkins and tell her what she is "

I'd happily tell them. But they only want to hear from people who will give them sympathy.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"If only it hadn't happened I'd have been spared hearing of that loathsome creature KH. indeed. . I never write anything that i wouldn't say in person . Would the folks in this thread stand in front of jerry and kate and tell them they were neglectful ? I'd happily say what i thought of medusa hopkins and tell her what she is

I'd happily tell them. But they only want to hear from people who will give them sympathy. "

......... or money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If only it hadn't happened I'd have been spared hearing of that loathsome creature KH. indeed. . I never write anything that i wouldn't say in person . Would the folks in this thread stand in front of jerry and kate and tell them they were neglectful ? I'd happily say what i thought of medusa hopkins and tell her what she is

I'd happily tell them. But they only want to hear from people who will give them sympathy.

......... or money."

I was going to say that, but thought it might be a little incendiary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a vile woman KH is.

They made a mistake, a huge mistake, probably the biggest mistake anyone could ever make. But they are human, we make mistakes. We get complacent, feel safe where perhaps we are not.

Either way, the have suffered more than I ever want to over anything. They needed to use the media to try and find her, we all would.

So why be so spiteful, hateful and nasty, just be thankful the mistakes you've made do far have been minor in comparison. Let them be, perhaps consider feeling empathy for them, but at least stop the vitriolic attacks.

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"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

When you make a mistake in life you either get away with it or you get caught and punished. They did not get away with it, they lost their daughter and people like you and thousandsw of others are prolonging their agony and damaging the two children left behind. They have suffered enough. let them and the surviving children live the rest of their life with their own demons. There is no need at all for all the "perfect model citizens" of this world to keep ramming it down their throat that it is their own fault - they are patently acutely aware of it.

Are they? When have they ever been heard to acknowledge their neglect of their children on that night?

I think this is what causes so much resentment. The lack of any public acknowledgement as to their own shortcomings in this tragic affair. They expect sympathy but only on their terms"

I am sure they have only ever said that they were naieve! If they had said from the start that they were stupid abd what they did was wrong then they might have more sympathy

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By *icecouple561Couple
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"

I think this is what causes so much resentment. The lack of any public acknowledgement as to their own shortcomings in this tragic affair. They expect sympathy but only on their terms"

If they were different people with different personalities or were prepared to rend their garments and don sackcloth and ashes they would have the publics sympathy? I doubt it, they aren't likeable people, they have no recognisable frailty or vulnerability, they aren't prepared to blame themselves publicly and people think they should and one of their worst crimes as far as the media and general public is concerned is that they are educated, professional people who should have known better and if it can happen to them it can happen to anybody and that is an unbearable thing to face so it's much easier to hate them, blame them and even accuse them of murder.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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Also we are using words like."resentment" towards people who have lost a child......resentment for goodness sake!

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

When you make a mistake in life you either get away with it or you get caught and punished. They did not get away with it, they lost their daughter and people like you and thousandsw of others are prolonging their agony and damaging the two children left behind. They have suffered enough. let them and the surviving children live the rest of their life with their own demons. There is no need at all for all the "perfect model citizens" of this world to keep ramming it down their throat that it is their own fault - they are patently acutely aware of it.

Are they? When have they ever been heard to acknowledge their neglect of their children on that night?

I think this is what causes so much resentment. The lack of any public acknowledgement as to their own shortcomings in this tragic affair. They expect sympathy but only on their terms

I am sure they have only ever said that they were naieve! If they had said from the start that they were stupid abd what they did was wrong then they might have more sympathy "

What got me was the way they strutted down the road every day in front of the cameras and their whole demeanour !

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By *icecouple561Couple
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"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

When you make a mistake in life you either get away with it or you get caught and punished. They did not get away with it, they lost their daughter and people like you and thousandsw of others are prolonging their agony and damaging the two children left behind. They have suffered enough. let them and the surviving children live the rest of their life with their own demons. There is no need at all for all the "perfect model citizens" of this world to keep ramming it down their throat that it is their own fault - they are patently acutely aware of it.

Are they? When have they ever been heard to acknowledge their neglect of their children on that night?

I think this is what causes so much resentment. The lack of any public acknowledgement as to their own shortcomings in this tragic affair. They expect sympathy but only on their terms

I am sure they have only ever said that they were naieve! If they had said from the start that they were stupid abd what they did was wrong then they might have more sympathy

What got me was the way they strutted down the road every day in front of the cameras and their whole demeanour !"

How would you have liked them to act? Is there anything they could have said or done that would have met with your approval?

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

When you make a mistake in life you either get away with it or you get caught and punished. They did not get away with it, they lost their daughter and people like you and thousandsw of others are prolonging their agony and damaging the two children left behind. They have suffered enough. let them and the surviving children live the rest of their life with their own demons. There is no need at all for all the "perfect model citizens" of this world to keep ramming it down their throat that it is their own fault - they are patently acutely aware of it.

Are they? When have they ever been heard to acknowledge their neglect of their children on that night?

I think this is what causes so much resentment. The lack of any public acknowledgement as to their own shortcomings in this tragic affair. They expect sympathy but only on their terms

I am sure they have only ever said that they were naieve! If they had said from the start that they were stupid abd what they did was wrong then they might have more sympathy

What got me was the way they strutted down the road every day in front of the cameras and their whole demeanour !

How would you have liked them to act? Is there anything they could have said or done that would have met with your approval?"

For how they let their child down probably not .

But I think most people would have gone

by car to keep away from the press

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over a year ago


"Also we are using words like."resentment" towards people who have lost a child......resentment for goodness sake! "

I must say there's not a lot in these comments to acknowledge there is still a missing child at the heart of all this.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

When you make a mistake in life you either get away with it or you get caught and punished. They did not get away with it, they lost their daughter and people like you and thousandsw of others are prolonging their agony and damaging the two children left behind. They have suffered enough. let them and the surviving children live the rest of their life with their own demons. There is no need at all for all the "perfect model citizens" of this world to keep ramming it down their throat that it is their own fault - they are patently acutely aware of it.

Are they? When have they ever been heard to acknowledge their neglect of their children on that night?

I think this is what causes so much resentment. The lack of any public acknowledgement as to their own shortcomings in this tragic affair. They expect sympathy but only on their terms

I am sure they have only ever said that they were naieve! If they had said from the start that they were stupid abd what they did was wrong then they might have more sympathy

What got me was the way they strutted down the road every day in front of the cameras and their whole demeanour !

How would you have liked them to act? Is there anything they could have said or done that would have met with your approval?

For how they let their child down probably not .

But I think most people would have gone

by car to keep away from the press "

The fact is that "most people" will thank god, never be in that situation and leaving blame to one side, if you were do you honestly think that how you appeared to the press would even enter your head in the first days after your four year old disappeared?

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over a year ago

It's on twitter eh?

That's good enough reason on its own for me not to give a shit about what she has to say.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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"It's on twitter eh?

That's good enough reason on its own for me not to give a shit about what she has to say."

Agreed. During discussion elsewhere on this subject I have encountered people who otherwise decry media evidence as flawed quote it as gospel in this case.....because it suits them to believe it. I have also come across otherwise intelligent people who look me in the eye and tell me they know exactly what went on because they have seen all the "evidence" on YouTube

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over a year ago

I've always thought there was a huge amount of inverse snobbery attached to the media's attitude to the McCanns.

Who is to say how grief-stricken people "should" behave? So much of the early criticism was focused on the way they seemed quite cold on camera. To me they just seemed numb, which is completely understandable.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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"Also we are using words like."resentment" towards people who have lost a child......resentment for goodness sake!

I must say there's not a lot in these comments to acknowledge there is still a missing child at the heart of all this. "

Yep because people are so focused on blaming her parents and critiquing their media image.

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now.

When you make a mistake in life you either get away with it or you get caught and punished. They did not get away with it, they lost their daughter and people like you and thousandsw of others are prolonging their agony and damaging the two children left behind. They have suffered enough. let them and the surviving children live the rest of their life with their own demons. There is no need at all for all the "perfect model citizens" of this world to keep ramming it down their throat that it is their own fault - they are patently acutely aware of it.

Are they? When have they ever been heard to acknowledge their neglect of their children on that night?

I think this is what causes so much resentment. The lack of any public acknowledgement as to their own shortcomings in this tragic affair. They expect sympathy but only on their terms

I am sure they have only ever said that they were naieve! If they had said from the start that they were stupid abd what they did was wrong then they might have more sympathy

What got me was the way they strutted down the road every day in front of the cameras and their whole demeanour !

How would you have liked them to act? Is there anything they could have said or done that would have met with your approval?

For how they let their child down probably not .

But I think most people would have gone

by car to keep away from the press

The fact is that "most people" will thank god, never be in that situation and leaving blame to one side, if you were do you honestly think that how you appeared to the press would even enter your head in the first days after your four year old disappeared? "

Personally if I had been in that situation (thank god I am not) I would have wanted the earth to swallow me up and would have kept a very low profile

fearing responsible parents wanting to

take revenge.

That to me makes this case a very strange one that however many comments

are made we will never truly know what happened .

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over a year ago

Fact: Leaving any underage child alone in a house/villa/apartment whilst out drinking or going for meal etc is negligent in the extreme especially leaving one as young as 4. They are living and suffering with the consequences of the negligence however the biggest blame lies with whoever snatched her. I hope she returns soonest and that McCanns can move on with their life. No one is perfect and that we must make mistakes to learn from them. Hard hat on

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"Fact: Leaving any underage child alone in a house/villa/apartment whilst out drinking or going for meal etc is negligent in the extreme especially leaving one as young as 4. They are living and suffering with the consequences of the negligence however the biggest blame lies with whoever snatched her. I hope she returns soonest and that McCanns can move on with their life. No one is perfect and that we must make mistakes to learn from them. Hard hat on "

Thats if she was snatched !

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By *icecouple561Couple
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"Fact: Leaving any underage child alone in a house/villa/apartment whilst out drinking or going for meal etc is negligent in the extreme especially leaving one as young as 4. They are living and suffering with the consequences of the negligence however the biggest blame lies with whoever snatched her. I hope she returns soonest and that McCanns can move on with their life. No one is perfect and that we must make mistakes to learn from them. Hard hat on

Thats if she was snatched !"

What us your theory on what happened and evidence to back it up?

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over a year ago

The only victim in this is that poor girl. The parents haven't suffered anything the vile cunts. They make me even more sick than KH does and that's saying something. Would love to see KH verbally slaughter them

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"Also we are using words like."resentment" towards people who have lost a child......resentment for goodness sake!

I must say there's not a lot in these comments to acknowledge there is still a missing child at the heart of all this.

Yep because people are so focused on blaming her parents and critiquing their media image."

someone gave me the book that Kate wrote,it answered a lot of questions and now years later I just feel really sorry for them and what they have to live with on a daily basis,even if what they did was the worst decision they ever made,for that they have paid the ultimate price,I hope they get as much support to counteract the vitriol and hate thats directed at them and I hope the twins that so many people wanted ripped from their parents even though they were coming to terms with losing a sister have lives that are relatively normal and not intruded by hate

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"Fact: Leaving any underage child alone in a house/villa/apartment whilst out drinking or going for meal etc is negligent in the extreme especially leaving one as young as 4. They are living and suffering with the consequences of the negligence however the biggest blame lies with whoever snatched her. I hope she returns soonest and that McCanns can move on with their life. No one is perfect and that we must make mistakes to learn from them. Hard hat on

Thats if she was snatched !

What us your theory on what happened and evidence to back it up?"

What a stupid question what evidence do I have.

I don't think the police seem have much evidence.

I just made a point.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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"Fact: Leaving any underage child alone in a house/villa/apartment whilst out drinking or going for meal etc is negligent in the extreme especially leaving one as young as 4. They are living and suffering with the consequences of the negligence however the biggest blame lies with whoever snatched her. I hope she returns soonest and that McCanns can move on with their life. No one is perfect and that we must make mistakes to learn from them. Hard hat on

Thats if she was snatched !

What us your theory on what happened and evidence to back it up?

What a stupid question what evidence do I have.

I don't think the police seem have much evidence.

I just made a point."

You made the statement if you think my question is stupid it's only because you have no plausible answer.

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"Fact: Leaving any underage child alone in a house/villa/apartment whilst out drinking or going for meal etc is negligent in the extreme especially leaving one as young as 4. They are living and suffering with the consequences of the negligence however the biggest blame lies with whoever snatched her. I hope she returns soonest and that McCanns can move on with their life. No one is perfect and that we must make mistakes to learn from them. Hard hat on

Thats if she was snatched !

What us your theory on what happened and evidence to back it up?

What a stupid question what evidence do I have.

I don't think the police seem have much evidence.

I just made a point.

You made the statement if you think my question is stupid it's only because you have no plausible answer. "

Unfortunately as yet no one has any answers.

But we are all entitled to our opinions at the end of the day its a very sad case

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"What a vile woman KH is.

They made a mistake, a huge mistake, probably the biggest mistake anyone could ever make. But they are human, we make mistakes. We get complacent, feel safe where perhaps we are not.

Either way, the have suffered more than I ever want to over anything. They needed to use the media to try and find her, we all would.

So why be so spiteful, hateful and nasty, just be thankful the mistakes you've made do far have been minor in comparison. Let them be, perhaps consider feeling empathy for them, but at least stop the vitriolic attacks.

"
that's it right there . Well said . Anyone who has children will know that no matter how much at fault we think them. . They have lost a daughter . Any additional hurt thrown their way is pointless and the person that hurls it only makes themself look smug or cold hearted.

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"What a vile woman KH is.

They made a mistake, a huge mistake, probably the biggest mistake anyone could ever make. But they are human, we make mistakes. We get complacent, feel safe where perhaps we are not.

Either way, the have suffered more than I ever want to over anything. They needed to use the media to try and find her, we all would.

So why be so spiteful, hateful and nasty, just be thankful the mistakes you've made do far have been minor in comparison. Let them be, perhaps consider feeling empathy for them, but at least stop the vitriolic attacks.

that's it right there . Well said . Anyone who has children will know that no matter how much at fault we think them. . They have lost a daughter . Any additional hurt thrown their way is pointless and the person that hurls it only makes themself look smug or cold hearted. "

At last ! Some compassion

No-one talks about Ben Needhams parents in the same light. I suppose for that little boy to have gone missing all those years ago, his parents clearly did have a close eye on him either.....

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"The only victim in this is that poor girl. The parents haven't suffered anything the vile cunts. They make me even more sick than KH does and that's saying something. Would love to see KH verbally slaughter them"

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"The only victim in this is that poor girl. The parents haven't suffered anything the vile cunts. They make me even more sick than KH does and that's saying something. Would love to see KH verbally slaughter them

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Yeah I think this was one of the main comments prompting my responses

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By *icecouple561Couple
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"The only victim in this is that poor girl. The parents haven't suffered anything the vile cunts. They make me even more sick than KH does and that's saying something. Would love to see KH verbally slaughter them

Yeah I think this was one of the main comments prompting my responses

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I'm saddened by a lot of what I've read in this thread. It seems that hate is much easier than compassion and I think we're all a bit poorer for it.

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"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened."

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

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Let him without sin cast the first stone.

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"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened. "

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

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"The only victim in this is that poor girl. The parents haven't suffered anything the vile cunts. They make me even more sick than KH does and that's saying something. Would love to see KH verbally slaughter them

Yeah I think this was one of the main comments prompting my responses

I'm saddened by a lot of what I've read in this thread. It seems that hate is much easier than compassion and I think we're all a bit poorer for it."

Life is to short to hate anyone .

I have a son who is currently fighting serious cancer for a second time he has a 4 month old baby he is desperate to see grow up.

And then you see people commit suicide .

Its very hard to understand

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"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

I completely agree. What I found despicable about their conduct was that , given their professions, they should have known better.

Is this something they did on a regular basis when at home in England?

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given their professions they should have known better

what a load of crock. So a joiner would be excused?

As for all the self righteous accusing the mccanns of, at best, bad parenting skills - have a really hard look at your own kids and your own parenting skills

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"

I'm saddened by a lot of what I've read in this thread. It seems that hate is much easier than compassion and I think we're all a bit poorer for it."

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"The only victim in this is that poor girl. The parents haven't suffered anything the vile cunts. They make me even more sick than KH does and that's saying something. Would love to see KH verbally slaughter them"
what a lovely person you sound . . So the parents are not bothered about losing a daughter ? You overestimate KH. . Maybe you suffer from the same delusional arrogance that she does . Whenever she's on tv or radio. . She's the one verbally slaughtered . . She has no grace or intelligent debating skills at all. May as well get john Mcrirrick to host question time ?

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"love her or hate her she has an opinion that invariably gets people talking and for that reason she will always get airtime. On this topic, while the outcome was horrendous, I'm afraid she is right, leaving your kids unattended at that age in any circumstance is not right. "
Yes I

Agree and the mc canns have had to pay the Emotional price for the loss of their Daughter and always will do In their lives

I only wish something good could come out Of all this as its always been a sad story.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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"What a vile woman KH is.

They made a mistake, a huge mistake, probably the biggest mistake anyone could ever make. But they are human, we make mistakes. We get complacent, feel safe where perhaps we are not.

Either way, the have suffered more than I ever want to over anything. They needed to use the media to try and find her, we all would.

So why be so spiteful, hateful and nasty, just be thankful the mistakes you've made do far have been minor in comparison. Let them be, perhaps consider feeling empathy for them, but at least stop the vitriolic attacks.

that's it right there . Well said . Anyone who has children will know that no matter how much at fault we think them. . They have lost a daughter . Any additional hurt thrown their way is pointless and the person that hurls it only makes themself look smug or cold hearted.

At last ! Some compassion

No-one talks about Ben Needhams parents in the same light. I suppose for that little boy to have gone missing all those years ago, his parents clearly did have a close eye on him either....."

He was being looked after by his grandparents playing in and out of their farmhouse.

He wasn't left in an apartment with two siblings younger than him while the parents were not near.

I think they are two totally different cases but equally as sad for the children involved.

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"The only victim in this is that poor girl. The parents haven't suffered anything the vile cunts. They make me even more sick than KH does and that's saying something. Would love to see KH verbally slaughter them"

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

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Odds bodkins, there are some uncharitable comments here.

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"The indisputable fact is that had the Mcanns not left their daughter and and twins alone that dreadful night, or been more responsible, then none of the resulting furore would have happened.

I completely agree. What I found despicable about their conduct was that , given their professions, they should have known better.

Is this something they did on a regular basis when at home in England?

given their professions they should have known better

what a load of crock. So a joiner would be excused?

As for all the self righteous accusing the mccanns of, at best, bad parenting skills - have a really hard look at your own kids and your own parenting skills"

You see this I don't get....I don't know any parent who is perfect at what they do , we all make mistakes...but some of us don't and wouldn't have put our children in danger so we could eat or drink...and leaving children in this way is not something a lot of us would do.

I don't think it was a " mistake" on their part as they said themselves that Maddy had said her and the twins had woken up and cried for their parents the night before when they were out, so they spoke about it and went out again the next night anyway which had tragic consequences.

Maybe we all just have different definitions of bad parenting

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"The only victim in this is that poor girl. The parents haven't suffered anything the vile cunts. They make me even more sick than KH does and that's saying something. Would love to see KH verbally slaughter them what a lovely person you sound . . So the parents are not bothered about losing a daughter ? You overestimate KH. . Maybe you suffer from the same delusional arrogance that she does . Whenever she's on tv or radio. . She's the one verbally slaughtered . . She has no grace or intelligent debating skills at all. May as well get john Mcrirrick to host question time ? "

If they were that bothered they'd not have left the children alone it really is that simple

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"Odds bodkins, there are some uncharitable comments here. "

Yep, I think you should refuse insurance on this thread!

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"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

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"As much as I loathe KH, I have to agree with her. They were negligent and they are guilty for leaving their children alone. I'm prepared for a barage of abuse now."

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