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"Once again, they are proving their religious philosophy of "peace and love" - let us drop some "cuddle bombs" on them, send some troops to give them some "peace and love" too. We used to have a death cult like theirs. They were called The Vikings. But we all grew up and put away such childish things." Every religion has its extremists and shouldn't be judged by their standards! Condemn the person,not the religion. | |||
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"Once again, they are proving their religious philosophy of "peace and love" - let us drop some "cuddle bombs" on them, send some troops to give them some "peace and love" too. We used to have a death cult like theirs. They were called The Vikings. But we all grew up and put away such childish things. Every religion has its extremists and shouldn't be judged by their standards! Condemn the person,not the religion. " True - I wasn't condemning the religion - I was condemning ISIS. Not all Vikings were axe wielding psychopaths either - they were skilled trades people and excellent mariners... Argue with them over semantics, however, and you might just lose your head... | |||
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"Sick fuckers But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date " That's what I think as well! | |||
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"Sick fuckers But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date That's what I think as well! " Something I wondered also | |||
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"Sick fuckers But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date That's what I think as well! Something I wondered also " so, IF this is the case, why not risk some collateral damage and show them we are prepared to make a few sacrifices of our own and obliterate ALL their known positions?? this is a question, not saying do it | |||
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"Sick fuckers But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date " Yeah I think that too | |||
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"Europe was no different a few hundred years ago and fueding goes on today. It is only when religion no longer exists will we have peace,and religion will allways exist!" Amen - you don't even need religion to fight - people will fight about *anything* | |||
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"Europe was no different a few hundred years ago and fueding goes on today. It is only when religion no longer exists will we have peace,and religion will allways exist! Amen - you don't even need religion to fight - people will fight about *anything*" Religion is a great decoy and recruiting sergeant. | |||
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"Each and every one is a despicable event. Yet, Obama and Hague still want to arm, seriously arm, rebels and bring down Governments they don't like. ps no thanks to Bush and Blair either. " Aren't Isis using weapons supplied by the west already! | |||
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"Each and every one is a despicable event. Yet, Obama and Hague still want to arm, seriously arm, rebels and bring down Governments they don't like. ps no thanks to Bush and Blair either. " Yet so called 'intelligent' governments and indeed their populations still believe the propaganda put out and don't learn from history. The only 'winner's' are arms companies. | |||
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"wish they would stop using religion as an excuse" | |||
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"oh no this is absolutely shocking his poor wife and family been asking for his release so recent what bastards they are" Yes i hope when they get these vile individuals that they give them no burial there not worthy of That infact there not worthy of anything Show the world for what they are and Treat any followers just the same or dump them in the pig swill for the Pigs to eat. | |||
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"Sick fuckers But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date Yeah I think that too " Apparently references in the video prove it to be no more than a week old at most. A | |||
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"Sick fuckers But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date Yeah I think that too Apparently references in the video prove it to be no more than a week old at most. A " Well in my opinion they should stop fucking about and put 1000s of boots on the ground and wipe the bastards out | |||
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"Slaughter of an innocent aid worker. I'm not sure how that can rally support for their cause but the sad thing is though that the fanatics and followers will rejoice. The world is fucked. Truly." they do not want to rally support to their cause they want to provoke us ( the western powers ) into a ground war with the intent of starting a muslim v christian war that can only end in our annihilation and their victory these people cannot be reasoned with and cannot be appeased they have one ideal and that is the total annihilation of anyone who does not adhere to there way of life the only thing they respect is strength and then they will continue to fight against it until they are dead or victorious . collateral damage is a cost worth taking for them as its costs them nothing in fighting strength and serves only as a propaganda tool against us and our sensitivity's the only way to defeat them will be all out total war and untill the people in charge realise this they will continue to prevail | |||
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"This stuff really makes me cry...I cannot comprehend what these guys who have got murdered went through...they are now saying that there are going to be more Lee Rigby style killings.." This is why i try my hardest not to think too much about it | |||
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"Sick fuckers But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date " Videos like that tend to have a point of reference in order to show the people they're threatening that it is a current video. The UK and the U.S. have a strict policy not to negotiate with terrorists under any costs. If IS weren't able to show they had hostages alive at a certain point in time, they would simply bomb the shit out of them, which is was IS are trying to stop by holding hostages in the first place. It makes no sense from their point of _iew to just kill them all. | |||
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"I also read that British IS fighters are asking the British government if they can come home as they believe that IS is too extreme...from what I understand wasn't something passed that these fighters had their British passport taken off them? " i believe that is true | |||
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"Talk about playing into right wing shit like the BNP too. I would feel very uncomfortable being a Muslim now in this country with so many loons ready to do their cowardly attacks too. I was just listening to R5 Live and a couple of Muslims who spoke where absolutely horrified as they also mentioned that the fact Mr Hemming was delivering aid, was a more Muslim behaviour than the cowards who kidnapped and beheaded him. " I'm not religious in any way, but I'm half Pakistani and grew up in a relatively Islamic family... I get more and more terrified by the day. Although I was relatively young at the time, I genuinely feel that it's worse now than it was post 9/11. | |||
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"Talk about playing into right wing shit like the BNP too. I would feel very uncomfortable being a Muslim now in this country with so many loons ready to do their cowardly attacks too. I was just listening to R5 Live and a couple of Muslims who spoke where absolutely horrified as they also mentioned that the fact Mr Hemming was delivering aid, was a more Muslim behaviour than the cowards who kidnapped and beheaded him. I'm not religious in any way, but I'm half Pakistani and grew up in a relatively Islamic family... I get more and more terrified by the day. Although I was relatively young at the time, I genuinely feel that it's worse now than it was post 9/11." Fair point. But move to somewhere like Bradford and see how your other half feels. | |||
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"Remember that IS released two videos today... The one of Alan henning and another one of a British jahadi goading western allies to put forces on the ground.... They want people to feel vengeful enough to say "fuck it!" And want people to go in... Where all the other people had some tie to government...Alan Henning didn't, he just went out to help people... When you get the like of Al-quieda saying he should have been released tells you how extreme IS is.. This one will be felt in the uk, the U.S.greatly... The next one shown is an American again...I don have much faith for him as he was a former soldier in Iraq Pressure is going to increase on Saudi, turkey, Qatar and others in the region to do more... It looks like they want us to fight their war... Whereas we want them to fight our war... " Great post Fabio. RIP Alan | |||
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"Talk about playing into right wing shit like the BNP too. I would feel very uncomfortable being a Muslim now in this country with so many loons ready to do their cowardly attacks too. I was just listening to R5 Live and a couple of Muslims who spoke where absolutely horrified as they also mentioned that the fact Mr Hemming was delivering aid, was a more Muslim behaviour than the cowards who kidnapped and beheaded him. I'm not religious in any way, but I'm half Pakistani and grew up in a relatively Islamic family... I get more and more terrified by the day. Although I was relatively young at the time, I genuinely feel that it's worse now than it was post 9/11. Fair point. But move to somewhere like Bradford and see how your other half feels. " Don't really know what you mean by that... But I lived in Tower Hamlets (London) for a good long while and it has a higher density of South Asians than Bradford does. Second in England and Wales, only to Leicester... | |||
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"Unconfirmed news of Mr Alan Hemming. Went to deliver aid in Syria when kidnapped by IS. Cowardly bastards...... R.I.P. Mr Hemming. " Was he the 70 year old man on the news today? | |||
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"Once again, they are proving their religious philosophy of "peace and love" - let us drop some "cuddle bombs" on them, send some troops to give them some "peace and love" too. We used to have a death cult like theirs. They were called The Vikings. But we all grew up and put away such childish things. Every religion has its extremists and shouldn't be judged by their standards! Condemn the person,not the religion. " Well said. | |||
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"The more I hear about Alan henning the more I see the word "hero" is one that should be given to him... The extra raising of money for aid for Syria by washing cars in his spare time, the fact this was his 4th trip, volunteer, aid worker, Good Samaritan... The fact that he was actually found innocent of spying in a shariah court, and they acknowledged he was there was humanitarian reasons... Doing good and trying to help the people of Syria, he even had "help for syria" tattooed on his arm... This is one that has gotten worldwide attention.. Watching the American news channels and it is wall to wall... And glowing obituaries about him... If anyone deserves a big celebration of his life it is him... This one may backfire... Rip a good man.... An individual who instead of sitting on his backside went out and did as much good as he could" | |||
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"The more I hear about Alan henning the more I see the word "hero" is one that should be given to him... The extra raising of money for aid for Syria by washing cars in his spare time, the fact this was his 4th trip, volunteer, aid worker, Good Samaritan... The fact that he was actually found innocent of spying in a shariah court, and they acknowledged he was there was humanitarian reasons... Doing good and trying to help the people of Syria, he even had "help for syria" tattooed on his arm... This is one that has gotten worldwide attention.. Watching the American news channels and it is wall to wall... And glowing obituaries about him... If anyone deserves a big celebration of his life it is him... This one may backfire... Rip a good man.... An individual who instead of sitting on his backside went out and did as much good as he could" you have my respect for that post ....a fitting tribute to a hero ... | |||
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"A small nuke and jurn them into glass" What about all the innocent children and babies? | |||
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"A small nuke and jurn them into glass What about all the innocent children and babies?" Haven't they all been sold or married away? It would be better to crop spray isis with hallucinogenic love drugs - perhaps cut with a little oestrogen and Viagra... Get them to spread the love and maybe their buttocks for each other - then wake up after the orgy and take each other to the Sharia courts, or back to bed. | |||
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"A small nuke and jurn them into glass What about all the innocent children and babies?" | |||
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"A small nuke and jurn them into glass What about all the innocent children and babies?" do they care about them | |||
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"A small nuke and jurn them into glass What about all the innocent children and babies? do they care about them" Its you suggesting the destruction of all the question was to you so? | |||
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"My only fear now is some idiot knuckle dragger will go out and do something equally idiotic against the Muslim community in this country as a "reprisal" " I would say this is more than likely: the Lee Rigby killing, the Rochdale scandal and now the recent murders of the two British aid workers will give fuel to many extremist groups. Muslims in Britain must feel quite nervous at the moment. The stronger Muslim groups come out against IS, the better, I would suggest. That is a message that can only help | |||
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"A small nuke and jurn them into glass What about all the innocent children and babies? Haven't they all been sold or married away? It would be better to crop spray isis with hallucinogenic love drugs - perhaps cut with a little oestrogen and Viagra... Get them to spread the love and maybe their buttocks for each other - then wake up after the orgy and take each other to the Sharia courts, or back to bed. " Actually what a very good idea, why do so called intelligent societies feel that gun powder and killing is the only method of conflict ? I'd suggest the west are idiotic for jumping through the hoop and retaliating War is no solution | |||
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"Expect so see a lot more of it too, as long as it gets publicity they will keep at it." Its a circle they still do it as they will be left to there own accord | |||
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"Go grab a handful of Ebola riddled Africans, ship them over there and let them do gods (not mohammed or allahs) work. Shouldn't take too long." You should hang your head in shame. You probably won't though. | |||
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"Go grab a handful of Ebola riddled Africans, ship them over there and let them do gods (not mohammed or allahs) work. Shouldn't take too long. You should hang your head in shame. You probably won't though. " No comments on here surprise or shock me any more...it just highlights ignorance.. | |||
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"Go grab a handful of Ebola riddled Africans, ship them over there and let them do gods (not mohammed or allahs) work. Shouldn't take too long. You should hang your head in shame. You probably won't though. " agreed, whatever the solution that is staggeringly stupid but sadly not a surprise.. | |||
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"I've seen 3 comments on Facebook saying they should spread Ebola over there and guess what 3 people are now off my friends list....I don't understand how by stopping down to the IS level will solve any of this "bloody" mess. " it's just the way people forget about the innocent over there that gets me, I'm shocked how people see nothing wrong with bombing a village full of kids to get a few IS members scattered amongst them, does ebola have a homing device to only target IS members I wonder? | |||
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"I've seen 3 comments on Facebook saying they should spread Ebola over there and guess what 3 people are now off my friends list....I don't understand how by stopping down to the IS level will solve any of this "bloody" mess. " thing is whilst I share your dismay at some who think along those lines I wouldn't be surprised that in some 'think tank' in some countries such thoughts are commonplace as a means to 'resolve' a situation.. | |||
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help " i guess that just goes to show that some people are better than us and some will put helping others before their own safety | |||
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"They are well funded and organised the longer we leave them the stronger they will get, But am sure the people at the top are working on how to stop them" yep one would think so but the recent evidence for the West's solution to issue's in that region don't exactly give confidence.. | |||
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"I've seen 3 comments on Facebook saying they should spread Ebola over there and guess what 3 people are now off my friends list....I don't understand how by stopping down to the IS level will solve any of this "bloody" mess. thing is whilst I share your dismay at some who think along those lines I wouldn't be surprised that in some 'think tank' in some countries such thoughts are commonplace as a means to 'resolve' a situation.. " I totally agree with you I'm sure it's been spoken about while a few whiskey have been poured. I don't know what the solution is but I can only hope that some bright spark will think of one soon. | |||
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help " He was warned but I guess he thought with his heart first....he put other's need in front of his own safety | |||
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help i guess that just goes to show that some people are better than us and some will put helping others before their own safety" I guess others put people they don't know above their own family. .. i don't think that makes him a better person | |||
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help i guess that just goes to show that some people are better than us and some will put helping others before their own safety I guess others put people they don't know above their own family. .. i don't think that makes him a better person " not sure I agree, he had been there 3 times and had come home safe after helping others in a situation thankfully beyond most of our comprehension.. and something went wrong on his last trip clearly which his family will be haunted by but you could equally apply your logic to thousands of other folks who work everyday in professions where there is risk to themselves for the benefit of others.. someone has to do those jobs and they also have families and loved ones.. | |||
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"I've seen 3 comments on Facebook saying they should spread Ebola over there and guess what 3 people are now off my friends list....I don't understand how by stopping down to the IS level will solve any of this "bloody" mess. " I would argue that it's below the IS level. It does though highlight that extremism exists on both sides. Extremists are the problem here. We need to take the lead on dealing with ours even when it comes to ridiculing extreme _iews on a swingers forum. The Arab world must be seen to take the lead on ridiculing it's extremists. IS are winning the prooganda war for far too many in the Arabian peninsular. The tragic slaughter of Alan Henning cannot be justified by any authentic Muslim teaching. It is specifically un Islamic. Jordan, UAE, Iran and others need to be seen as leading the fight against their own extremists and IS in both word and deed. Until the average man living in Jordan who just happens to be an IS sympathiser is personally apalled by what has happened to an innocent aid worker and starts to stand up to 'his extremists' and ridicule them, IS will prosper. My challenge to all of you, is to guard against 'our extremism', stand up to and challenge it wherever it raises it's head. Whether that be Fab, facebook or down the pub. | |||
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help i guess that just goes to show that some people are better than us and some will put helping others before their own safety I guess others put people they don't know above their own family. .. i don't think that makes him a better person not sure I agree, he had been there 3 times and had come home safe after helping others in a situation thankfully beyond most of our comprehension.. and something went wrong on his last trip clearly which his family will be haunted by but you could equally apply your logic to thousands of other folks who work everyday in professions where there is risk to themselves for the benefit of others.. someone has to do those jobs and they also have families and loved ones.. " i agree, on that logic you could say every firefighter who go into a burning building knows the risks and are putting others before their family he did something I would never have the balls to do and I think that makes him a better person than me | |||
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"Just rethought my post and whilst it was stupi/tongue in cheek, an extreme answer is required to deAl with the IS. How's about we go over there, install the fastest fibre broadband and let em have fabs to play on? They'd be too disrupted to do anything else. " I respect you for rethinking your post and having the decency to say so. | |||
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"Extremism both sides?? Nor sure the last time I watched a christian blow up a plane or cut someone's head off..." The passenger plane recently shot down over the Ukraine was most likely not shot down by Muslims. Are you suggesting Christians have never committed beheadings? I have never seen a Muslim drop a nuke on a populated city. We really need to work towards not seeing this as Muslim v Christianity, the problem here is extremism and extremism needs to be eventually beaten by it's own side. There are extremists on both sides. We are doing a better job of controlling ours, but we need to remain vigilant. | |||
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"Just rethought my post and whilst it was stupi/tongue in cheek, an extreme answer is required to deAl with the IS. How's about we go over there, install the fastest fibre broadband and let em have fabs to play on? They'd be too disrupted to do anything else. I respect you for rethinking your post and having the decency to say so. " | |||
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help i guess that just goes to show that some people are better than us and some will put helping others before their own safety I guess others put people they don't know above their own family. .. i don't think that makes him a better person " I heard that he was targeted and captured less than an hour into his arriving there....... they are watching constantly for whom they can capture next it would seem.. | |||
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"Extremism both sides?? Nor sure the last time I watched a christian blow up a plane or cut someone's head off... The passenger plane recently shot down over the Ukraine was most likely not shot down by Muslims. Are you suggesting Christians have never committed beheadings? I have never seen a Muslim drop a nuke on a populated city. We really need to work towards not seeing this as Muslim v Christianity, the problem here is extremism and extremism needs to be eventually beaten by it's own side. There are extremists on both sides. We are doing a better job of controlling ours, but we need to remain vigilant. " Of course there are extremists on both sides as there are in any society, religion or colour. Let me know when your local vicar starts preaching hatred and tries to introduce a law that puts women as 2nd class citizens. .. There is absolutely no comparison | |||
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" Of course there are extremists on both sides as there are in any society, religion or colour. Let me know when your local vicar starts preaching hatred and tries to introduce a law that puts women as 2nd class citizens. .. There is absolutely no comparison " Have you heard of Reverend Robert West? Member of the BNP. Just ask any women who aspires to being a cardinal whether or not she feels like a second class citizen, that church law is already in place. There can be comparisons, the key for both sides is to manage their extremists. We have more control of ours, but we still have them. I am in no way trying to play down the horror that is IS, but this is more complicated than the old Christian v Muslim saga. | |||
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