FabSwingers.com forum: homeopathy - genuine cure or placebo?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

or a bit of both?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people would swear by it!

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By *northernsoulMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Placebo in my opinion, there's no proof that it actually works, and the British Medical Association have even recommended the NHS should stop all funding for it.

Always trust your Doctor

(Unless his surname is Shipman, of course).

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"Placebo in my opinion, there's no proof that it actually works, and the British Medical Association have even recommended the NHS should stop all funding for it.

Always trust your Doctor

(Unless his surname is Shipman, of course)."

bullshit alternative medicine should be looked at much more seriously.when it comes to healht,discount nothing.they use maggots now.

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By *northernsoulMan
over a year ago

Manchester

bullshit alternative medicine should be looked at much more seriously.when it comes to healht,discount nothing.they use maggots now."

Don't shoot the messenger - who has the more valid opinion here, you, me, or the BMA? Some alternative medicines may well have benefits, but I'm assuming homoeopathy isn't one of them.

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

Voodoo!

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

bullshit alternative medicine should be looked at much more seriously.when it comes to healht,discount nothing.they use maggots now.

Don't shoot the messenger - who has the more valid opinion here, you, me, or the BMA? Some alternative medicines may well have benefits, but I'm assuming homoeopathy isn't one of them."

money drives health care,not cures.if it works,it works.discount nothing.dont be so naive.i would have said stupid,but im to nice.

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By *northernsoulMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"money drives health care,not cures.if it works,it works.discount nothing.dont be so naive.i would have said stupid,but im to nice."

Is there any need to be so rude? If the NHS ever gets privatised, you can make such a claim, in the meantime you have no grounds to say what works and what doesn't. Are you a Doctor? No. I rest my case.

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By *osiephillCouple
over a year ago

The High Peak

We know it works as we use it regularly.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Personally Im wouldnt think about using homeopathy treatments, but lots of folks do and swear by them.

Id say if it works for you, go for it. Plenty of cultures have been using them for years so there must be something in it Id guess.

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By *northernsoulMan
over a year ago

Manchester

I agree, if it works for you, then fill your boots. However as far as 'alternative therapies' go, hypnosis helped me to quit smoking however - as it doesn't work for everyone - I wouldn't expect the NHS to start providing.

It's all subjective... but it seems the BMA have made their decision, like it or lump it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"money drives health care,not cures.if it works,it works.discount nothing.dont be so naive.i would have said stupid,but im to nice.

Your later post seems to contradict this one!

As has been said, there is a lot of big money with vested interests in medical matters and that applies to both the NHS and the BMA.

You seem to be saying that the NHS can be questioned but not the BMA? In some respects, there's not a lot of difference between the two!!

The simple facts are that some things work for some, and other things work for others.

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By *northernsoulMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Your later post seems to contradict this one!

As has been said, there is a lot of big money with vested interests in medical matters and that applies to both the NHS and the BMA.

You seem to be saying that the NHS can be questioned but not the BMA? In some respects, there's not a lot of difference between the two!!

The simple facts are that some things work for some, and other things work for others."

To clarify, I'm saying the BMA have suggested the NHS should stop providing funding for this treatment... whether I agree with it or not is by-the-by, why should we question either the NHS or the BMA? I'm sure they have valid reasons and research to back it up, either way.

The NHS doesn't have a bottomless pit of funding, so treatments that aren't considered 'effective' (whether you agree with it or not) will almost certainly get the chop. It's a fact.

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By *averiMan
over a year ago

Swindon to bristol

bullshit alternative medicine should be looked at much more seriously.when it comes to healht,discount nothing.they use maggots now.

Don't shoot the messenger - who has the more valid opinion here, you, me, or the BMA? Some alternative medicines may well have benefits, but I'm assuming homoeopathy isn't one of them."

Dont get into arguments when you know nothing about the subject Pal.

If it works for some people, and it does, who cares why. Fuck the BMA... they have an axe to grind!

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By *northernsoulMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Dont get into arguments when you know nothing about the subject Pal.

If it works for some people, and it does, who cares why. Fuck the BMA... they have an axe to grind!"

Read the subject of this thread... is it not a question? Questions lead to opinions. Deal with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm on the Fence on this one, a Friends Wife swears by it and reckons she's had more improvement from it than Tablets, I dont care really as long as she gets better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's an NHS homeopathic hospital in Glasgow. It's just moved to a fab new site. What more proof of the value and worth of homeopathy does one need?

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By *averiMan
over a year ago

Swindon to bristol

"Dont get into arguments when you know nothing about the subject Pal.

If it works for some people, and it does, who cares why. Fuck the BMA... they have an axe to grind!

Read the subject of this thread... is it not a question? Questions lead to opinions. Deal with it."

I have no Problem with that....but I think you do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dont get into arguments when you know nothing about the subject Pal.

If it works for some people, and it does, who cares why. Fuck the BMA... they have an axe to grind!

Read the subject of this thread... is it not a question? Questions lead to opinions. Deal with it.

I have no Problem with that....but I think you do.

well said that man!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it works, why is it not curing tb, dengue fever, cholera, malaria etc. the important stuff? its sole use is in 'curing' chills, agues, and other imaginary 'illnesses'. you might as well use wishing well water.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Holy thread resurrection, Batman!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well somebody had to!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If it works, why is it not curing tb, dengue fever, cholera, malaria etc. the important stuff? its sole use is in 'curing' chills, agues, and other imaginary 'illnesses'. you might as well use wishing well water."

Has "Regular" Medicine cured these, Because as far as im aware they still exist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

LMAO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Makes me laugh - one of the posters suggested 'trust your GP' ; when he must know that a GP is just a Jack of all trades (no disrespect intended ) !!!

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By *lassygilf60Woman
over a year ago

MANCHESTER

Hi to all,

well ive been taking part in medical research for 12yrs now. and yes some things work and maybe not others. wot I can say is! I trial medicens for peep with c o p d. and this last drug. will make a bloody good diuretic. but thats wot research is about.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Makes me laugh - one of the posters suggested 'trust your GP' ; when he must know that a GP is just a Jack of all trades (no disrespect intended ) !!!

Bingo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Makes me laugh - one of the posters suggested 'trust your GP' ; when he must know that a GP is just a Jack of all trades (no disrespect intended ) !!!

Bingo

So, what have I won?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it is good enough for the Royal family....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We know it works as we use it regularly."

What does it work for?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When you think some of homeopethy is natural remedies, which is where some of our drugs are made from. Some of it will work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our son has eczema and I try to use anything natural first before going and seeing the docs ie porridge oats bath soothes and calm the skin down, black tea is another one it is a natural antibiotic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has "Regular" Medicine cured these, Because as far as im aware they still exist"

You are confusing curing with eradicating.

Conventional medicine can of course cure these conditions depending on severity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is 100% placebo

it has been proven lots of times.

the only thing homeopathy cures is thirst.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If it is good enough for the Royal family...."

History has told us. ........ it's out of us blebs' reach!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If it is good enough for the Royal family....

History has told us. ........ it's out of us blebs' reach!!!

They didn't try homeopathy when Prince Phillip was unwell did they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Homeopathic a&e :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pure placebo, of it worked then tap water would be a lethal concoction by now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Makes me laugh - one of the posters suggested 'trust your GP' ; when he must know that a GP is just a Jack of all trades (no disrespect intended ) !!!

Yeah, jack of all trades, or more accurately specialist diagnostician

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does Aloe Vera count ? If it does then it helped me a lot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does Aloe Vera count ? If it does then it helped me a lot. "

Did you dilute the aloe Vera to a point where it's statistically unlikely to even be in the water anymore?

Or have you confused homeopathy with something else?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I d*unk it with juice to hide the taste. Not that it worked, could still taste it.

However what I can say is after having steroids for the same condition that did nothing, within 2-3 weeks of taking aloe juice my condition changed dramatically.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I d*unk it with juice to hide the taste. Not that it worked, could still taste it.

However what I can say is after having steroids for the same condition that did nothing, within 2-3 weeks of taking aloe juice my condition changed dramatically. "

That's not homeopathy, in homeopathy it's diluted to the point where it's basically not even there and the magical water faires cure you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I d*unk it with juice to hide the taste. Not that it worked, could still taste it.

However what I can say is after having steroids for the same condition that did nothing, within 2-3 weeks of taking aloe juice my condition changed dramatically. "

aloe vera is a herbal remedy not homeopathic. It is fantastic for burns, skin conditions and digestive problems because of its soothing anti inflammatory properties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hard to say. St Johns Wort, a mood lifter, is not allowed with some blood pressure medication as it will cause you alsorts of dangerous outcomes. ... So if the homeopathy affects main stream medicine then perhaps it does do something.

Green tea is certainly a detox, try it with a hangover and Marmite on toast ... Fastest cure in the west!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe if you were concerned with toxins in your body from alcohol.not drinking it in the first place is a better idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aspirin is derived from the Willow tree

And many other medicines are from plants !

However there is a lot of hogwash around the whole homeopathic industry

Some might actually try and sell you extract of Hogwash as a cure for bullshititis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hi all, please can we not confuse homeopathy with herbal medicine. there is a lot to be said for alternative medicine.

homeopathy does not stand up to proper testing, such as trials using blind control groups - it is a placebo. think about how the concept works...

to cure a headache, you find a compound (seemingly at random) that would cause a headache, dilute it a million times in water, till there is none left, and sprinkle it on a sugar pill. somehow the magic water remembers what the compound looked like, which then goes to the brain and cures the headache. makes perfect sense - not!

fair do's, if people want a placebo, and want to believe in it - great. some people argue that if a placebo is more expensive and comes with a good story it will be more effective. what really bugs me is that firstly i have to pay for other people to have it (ie paying taxes to NHS), and secondly, people use it inappropriately, choosing it above treatments that will work, resulting in suffering and in some cases death.

Ps - homeopathy in Greek translates to - cause harm in humans

but hey ho

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Homeopathy is quackery of the highest order.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Aspirin is derived from the Willow tree

And many other medicines are from plants !

However there is a lot of hogwash around the whole homeopathic industry

Some might actually try and sell you extract of Hogwash as a cure for bullshititis

Errrrrm, almost all medicines derive from plants, dude!!

But otherwise, just go & see your mega-rich, pharmaceutical multinational championing GP ; they'll put you

straight!!!

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