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"He didnt even win the vote in his own constituancy ( ok so i cant spell) Dont like to kick a man when he's down,,well in this case ,, he's cost us a fortune so his sell by date is surely up." Salmond will be like a bad penny keep coming back and flogging a now dead horse | |||
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"I think it was well worth the money. And I'm an English No voter. I think the political shake up to come in the next few months will be good, and hopefully at the next general election more people across the UK will be engaged enough follow the Scots example and vote. Rather than sit on their fat arses moaning about how it makes no difference like 40% of them usually do. " Erm ? Up to 90 % voted and the result ? No difference lol (muttered tongue in cheek) I think the vote worth while , the high percentage yes vote should count for something ? | |||
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"I think it was well worth the money. And I'm an English No voter. I think the political shake up to come in the next few months will be good, and hopefully at the next general election more people across the UK will be engaged enough follow the Scots example and vote. Rather than sit on their fat arses moaning about how it makes no difference like 40% of them usually do. Erm ? Up to 90 % voted and the result ? No difference lol (muttered tongue in cheek) I think the vote worth while , the high percentage yes vote should count for something ?" Yeah i think that's the point they were making, that in just elections at least 40 percent of those who could vote choose not to yet still moan when the status quo is maintained to the detriment of everyone. This vote showed what happens when people stand up and use their voice. No matter what the end outcome was, westminster definitely noticed. And the high result of yes votes was definitely marked. | |||
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"think you will notice it cost u nothing as the no camp where back by rich tory backers,also the yes movement of 1and a half million is only going to get bigger and stronger over the next few yrs ,we will lick our wound for now but will be fighting harder than ever until we get our independence." Will agree , it's made people polictically aware, and hopefully some progress will be made in england to equal things out abit. But the above post is like europe said to ireland 'you will keep voteing untill we get the answer we want ' We all need to get on with life now | |||
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"Democracy at it's best, worth every penny. " this.. the engagement by the young and that 400,000 ish folks registered to vote who were eligible and took part is worth every penny.. hats off to the people in Scotland for setting a high standard of participation that I sincerely hope 'us lot' south of the border follow to some extent.. its the apathy that drives us down and lets the system flourish often for the benefit of the minority.. | |||
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"Actually Salmond did manage to succeed in one thing......He split the Scottish people almost in half so he can watch then fight amongst theirselves... " which is what politicians have done for decades.. | |||
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"Actually Salmond did manage to succeed in one thing......He split the Scottish people almost in half so he can watch then fight amongst theirselves... which is what politicians have done for decades.. " | |||
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"Actually Salmond did manage to succeed in one thing......He split the Scottish people almost in half so he can watch then fight amongst theirselves... " There's a crowd of TV cameras/reporters outside his official residence today... waiting. I think they'll be waiting a while. I hope you're wrong though, I'd like to think that people can put politics aside and remain civil and dignified. I'd also like to think that everyone remains passionate about it but channel it in a worthy direction. | |||
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"Actually Salmond did manage to succeed in one thing......He split the Scottish people almost in half so he can watch then fight amongst theirselves... There's a crowd of TV cameras/reporters outside his official residence today... waiting. I think they'll be waiting a while. I hope you're wrong though, I'd like to think that people can put politics aside and remain civil and dignified. I'd also like to think that everyone remains passionate about it but channel it in a worthy direction. " I do hope so too but some may feel that the vote was too close ....what I do really admire was the turnout to vote it showed just how passionately the scots felt about the whole process... | |||
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"Good old Alex and Nicola,, cost the whole of the uk a bundel of money because of your ego's You failed in what you set out to do ,, was rejected, so time to go. How can you stay,, prehaps claim victory getting more powers? No think the salary , benifits and nice pension might stop you. Didnt you say at one point Cameron wouldnt be able to justify staying as priminster if it was a yes ? Salmond should go and so should Cameron for giving so many concessions" Hang on a minute, whilst I dislike our parasitic politicians of ALL parties, I seem to recollect it was the muppet Brown that came out first spouting what we would the Scots whilst Cameron, Clegg and Millipeed followed on!...once parliament get back after recess things will be discussed then very little will change. The main thing I want to see is some way that Scottish MP's are stopped from voting and debating issues mainly effecting south of the border...without another tier of expensive governtment. | |||
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"Does anyone notice the vast majority of people moaning about cost on this thread are from south of the border? Plenty of decisions are made from Westminster that cost millions and are a complete waste of time...??" My thoughts exactly - don't bother building a British nation - I can't see it holding for too much longer - look at the demographics the young want independence the elderly will soon be gone | |||
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"Does anyone notice the vast majority of people moaning about cost on this thread are from south of the border? Plenty of decisions are made from Westminster that cost millions and are a complete waste of time...?? My thoughts exactly - don't bother building a British nation - I can't see it holding for too much longer - look at the demographics the young want independence the elderly will soon be gone " And the young will soon be the elderly. | |||
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"Actually Salmond did manage to succeed in one thing......He split the Scottish people almost in half so he can watch then fight amongst theirselves... There's a crowd of TV cameras/reporters outside his official residence today... waiting. I think they'll be waiting a while. ..... " They're waiting on a statement from the Bute House cat who is fed up getting his arse kicked every time Eck fucks up. | |||
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"Good old Alex and Nicola,, cost the whole of the uk a bundel of money because of your ego's You failed in what you set out to do ,, was rejected, so time to go. How can you stay,, prehaps claim victory getting more powers? No think the salary , benifits and nice pension might stop you. Didnt you say at one point Cameron wouldnt be able to justify staying as priminster if it was a yes ? " He must have read your post cos Sky News reports that he's just 'stood down' The power of Fab eh...? | |||
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" He must have read your post cos Sky News reports that he's just 'stood down' The power of Fab eh...? " | |||
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"think you will notice it cost u nothing as the no camp where back by rich tory backers,also the yes movement of 1and a half million is only going to get bigger and stronger over the next few yrs ,we will lick our wound for now but will be fighting harder than ever until we get our independence." What a load of total garbage. Who back both campaigns is a matter of public record. I think you should really get your facts correct for a change please. This has been the issue with a lot of the YES supporters you just did not 1. Read the SNP WhitePaper 2. Do your own reseach and find out the truth. Sad day indeed. | |||
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"Does anyone notice the vast majority of people moaning about cost on this thread are from south of the border? Plenty of decisions are made from Westminster that cost millions and are a complete waste of time...??" Plenty of decisions are made from Edinburgh that cost millions, and thanks to the Barnett formula those of us south of the border pay for them too. | |||
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"Good old Alex and Nicola,, cost the whole of the uk a bundel of money because of your ego's You failed in what you set out to do ,, was rejected, so time to go. How can you stay,, prehaps claim victory getting more powers? No think the salary , benifits and nice pension might stop you. Didnt you say at one point Cameron wouldnt be able to justify staying as priminster if it was a yes ? " You can always rely on Fab posters to come out with some sub 'sPeaK yor bRaneS' nonsense on almost any political issue, but this is one of the best ever. Well done you! | |||
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"Does anyone notice the vast majority of people moaning about cost on this thread are from south of the border? Plenty of decisions are made from Westminster that cost millions and are a complete waste of time...?? Plenty of decisions are made from Edinburgh that cost millions, and thanks to the Barnett formula those of us south of the border pay for them too. " Barnett isn't just about proportional population share. It reflects the increased costs of providing such things as NHS services to remote areas and the islands etc. Not everyone lives within half an hour of the Freeman or the Golden Jubilee. | |||
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"Does anyone notice the vast majority of people moaning about cost on this thread are from south of the border? Plenty of decisions are made from Westminster that cost millions and are a complete waste of time...?? Plenty of decisions are made from Edinburgh that cost millions, and thanks to the Barnett formula those of us south of the border pay for them too. Barnett isn't just about proportional population share. It reflects the increased costs of providing such things as NHS services to remote areas and the islands etc. Not everyone lives within half an hour of the Freeman or the Golden Jubilee." Completely understand that, the point I was making is you can't separate decisions being made north and south of the border and say it's 'them' making 'us' pay for it and so forth. Also if you research Barnett you'll understand how much Wales gets totally shafted by the existing formula in comparison to Scotland. | |||
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"Why were we not asked if we wanted to Keep Scotland in the UK!!" or now asked if we've all had enough of them and boot them out! Nicola Sturgeon could come join FAB | |||
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"I think it was well worth the money. And I'm an English No voter. I think the political shake up to come in the next few months will be good, and hopefully at the next general election more people across the UK will be engaged enough follow the Scots example and vote. Rather than sit on their fat arses moaning about how it makes no difference like 40% of them usually do. " well said | |||
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"Does anyone notice the vast majority of people moaning about cost on this thread are from south of the border? Plenty of decisions are made from Westminster that cost millions and are a complete waste of time...?? Plenty of decisions are made from Edinburgh that cost millions, and thanks to the Barnett formula those of us south of the border pay for them too. Barnett isn't just about proportional population share. It reflects the increased costs of providing such things as NHS services to remote areas and the islands etc. Not everyone lives within half an hour of the Freeman or the Golden Jubilee. Completely understand that, the point I was making is you can't separate decisions being made north and south of the border and say it's 'them' making 'us' pay for it and so forth. Also if you research Barnett you'll understand how much Wales gets totally shafted by the existing formula in comparison to Scotland. " Read this just now - quite surprising numbers!! And does show how independence could cause some major financial headaches for any nation looking to split from England! A | |||
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"Does anyone notice the vast majority of people moaning about cost on this thread are from south of the border? Plenty of decisions are made from Westminster that cost millions and are a complete waste of time...??" | |||
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"think you will notice it cost u nothing as the no camp where back by rich tory backers,also the yes movement of 1and a half million is only going to get bigger and stronger over the next few yrs ,we will lick our wound for now but will be fighting harder than ever until we get our independence." The campaign costs are small. The costs of preparing for the referendum and the costs of running the election, hiring polling stations, paying the staff etc. (this is the one bit I think is a swizz and could be handled better to reduce the costs). The UK AV referendum cost £58m and would was reported that it would have cost £90m if it was a standalone election. I haven't seen the costs for the Scottish referendum. Campaign costs are completely separate. When people don't use their vote that is a waste of public money. | |||
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