FabSwingers.com forum: The Referendum Thread Part 3

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hopefully approved by Jez!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thought Tommy Sheridan was going to kick off in the studio!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, part 2 probably reaching it's size limit.

Glasgow declares

169,347 'No' votes

194,779 'Yes'votes

47% 'No' 53% 'Yes'split

Turnout 75%

Total votes so far

1,031,472 'No' votes

833,031 'Yes' votes

Split

55% 'No' 45% 'Yes'

21/32 Declared

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

London

Did you see the sky reporter being effectively manhandled by Nic Sturgeons Yes minders..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No didn't see that, saw the pic of Eck looking glum on twitter tho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

North Ayrshire declares

49,016 'No' votes

47.072 'Yes'votes

51% 'No' 49% 'Yes'split

Turnout %

Total votes so far

1,305,388 'No' votes

1,102,788 'Yes' votes

Split

54% 'No' 46% 'Yes'

24/32 Declared

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over a year ago

South Ayrshire declares

47,247 'No' votes

34,402 'Yes'votes

58% 'No' 42% 'Yes'split

Turnout 86.1%

Total votes so far

1,352,635 'No' votes

1,137,190 'Yes' votes

'No' leads by 215,445 votes

Split

54% 'No' 46% 'Yes'

25/32 Declared

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Thought Tommy Sheridan was going to kick off in the studio!"

Yes he was bitting his tounge big time but then started spouting rather than discussing.

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

London

East ayrshire.

Yes: 39762

No: 44442

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Shit, looks like I'm out £30 on consolation bacon butties this morning.

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By *corpio BrowneMan
over a year ago

London

Now this is not the end .It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps , the beginning of the end . Winston Churchill .

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over a year ago

East Ayrshire declares

44,442 'No' votes

39,762 'Yes'votes

53% 'No' 47% 'Yes'split

Turnout 84.5%

Total votes so far

1,397,077 'No' votes

1,176,952 'Yes' votes

'No' leads by 220,125 votes

Split

54% 'No' 46% 'Yes'

26/32 Declared

6 more to go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now this is not the end .It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps , the beginning of the end . Winston Churchill ."

'end of the beginning'?

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

London

"Shit, looks like I'm out £30 on consolation bacon butties this morning."

Get your own back.. get em some tea n coffee with laxative sugar.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Is it over yet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it over yet?

Nearly. Just waiting on 6 more results

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

London

"Is it over yet?

Not definitely, but the trend is to No and the Yes campaign need to get 220000 more votes to overhaul the No campaign

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Is it over yet?

Nearly. Just waiting on 6 more results"

Hurrah... maybe the people at work will take those ridiculous posters down now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No not over yet, however the Losers are having there say, the word delusion comes into mind, bad losers what they dont realize is there is now a divided Scotland and that's trouble.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

My TV is under a mountain of stuff cause I'm having a new floor put in. I couldn't have hoped for a better week with no TV.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Still waiting on the big highland and moray results which I think will be Yes.

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

London

God I'm going to be tired at work

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Thought Tommy Sheridan was going to kick off in the studio!

Yes he was bitting his tounge big time but then started spouting rather than discussing."

Tommy's heart is in the right place but his brain is up his arse.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Thought Tommy Sheridan was going to kick off in the studio!

Yes he was bitting his tounge big time but then started spouting rather than discussing.

Tommy's heart is in the right place but his brain is up his arse."

I particularly enjoyed him blaming the BBC, while on the BBC.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

He usually thinks he's in the Bernabau.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Been a while since the last declaration.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Been a while since the last declaration."

Maybe those doing the counting are feeling tired, bless 'em

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

"Been a while since the last declaration."

Yep and the tv channels are struggling - lot of rubbish being spoken

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Been a while since the last declaration.

Yep and the tv channels are struggling - lot of rubbish being spoken

I think Huw Edwards has got a tough job.

Can't be easy to waffle on not knowing how long you've got to fill in for till the next result.

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By *corpio BrowneMan
over a year ago

London

" Meet the new boss , Same as the old boss " ( Won't Get Fooled Again ? )

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Been a while since the last declaration.

Yep and the tv channels are struggling - lot of rubbish being spoken

I think Huw Edwards has got a tough job.

Can't be easy to waffle on not knowing how long you've got to fill in for till the next result.

And then they arrive like buses, 4 at a time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And then they arrive like buses, 4 at a time.

I know, I've been struggling to keep up at times, lol

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

"Been a while since the last declaration.

Yep and the tv channels are struggling - lot of rubbish being spoken

I think Huw Edwards has got a tough job.

Can't be easy to waffle on not knowing how long you've got to fill in for till the next result.

And then they arrive like buses, 4 at a time.

Ohh i dont hope ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well there appears to be a clear majority for No, but it's not one too crow about. There needs to be significant change now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

3 more in

Aberdeenshire declares

Turnout %

108,606 'No' votes (60%)

71,337 'Yes'votes ( %)

Edinburgh declares

Turnout 84%

194,638 'No' votes (61%)

123,927 'Yes'votes (39%)

Argyll & Bute declares

Turnout %

37,143 'No' votes (59%)

26,324 'Yes'votes (41%)

Total votes so far

1,737,464 'No' votes (55%)

1,398,540 'Yes' votes (45%)

'No' leads by 338,924 votes

29/32 Declared

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Am wondering why the Glasgow turnout was so low by comparison?

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By *hortieWoman
over a year ago

Northampton

I can see sales of Buckfast reaching an all time high tomorrow!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Oh dear, BBC anchor just dropped a clanger. Said that it was first time Scots had been asked!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fife declares

Turnout 84.1%

139,788 'No' votes (55%)

114,148 'Yes'votes (45%)

Total votes so far

1,877,252 'No' votes (55%)

1,512,688 'Yes' votes (45%)

'No' leads by 364,564 votes

30/32 Declared

Tips the total over the amount required to decide final outcome.

Scotland has voted 'No'

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Brilliant!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Started to see the first insult memes from the Yes camp on twitter and facebook now.

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

I'm happy the union isn't going to be broken up, but I do think there'll still be some stormy waters ahead as there will be a lot of resentment over the funding formula from some of the English...I have to admit that it left a nasty taste in my mouth - not just the fact that Scots will receive more money per head, but that the politicos had to resort to what seems like bribery. However, I'm glad you Jocks are still with us

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over a year ago

Moray declares

Turnout 85.4%

36,935 'No' votes (58%)

27,232 'Yes'votes (42%)

Total votes so far

1,914,187 'No' votes (55%)

1,539,920 'Yes' votes (45%)

'No' leads by 374,267 votes

31/32 Declared

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Is this the end for Salmand?

He came out with some pretty harsh stuff during the campaigning.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

And it's over I take it....I wonder how much is whole affair cost the tax payer?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No, he'll hang on. He's increased their vote from when they started by over 10%.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"And it's over I take it....I wonder how much is whole affair cost the tax payer?

This on is

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

So does 'no' mean 'no'?

Or just 'not right now - let's try again in a few years'?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"So does 'no' mean 'no'?

Or just 'not right now - let's try again in a few years'?

Lol give it a few more years they will be asking again lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And it's over I take it....I wonder how much is whole affair cost the tax payer?

Probably less than its now going to cost ffs. Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So does 'no' mean 'no'?

Or just 'not right now - let's try again in a few years'?

From what Eck said it sounds like they'll keep pressing for years to come. Probably wait for the next economic and social downturn, which is the only reason there was one now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So does 'no' mean 'no'?

Or just 'not right now - let's try again in a few years'?

I think it's already been mentioned in the coverage that this is a decision that will stand for the next 15 years.

So, expect this to all kick off again around 2027

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh come on Highlands, declare so I can post the final result and go get a couple of hours sleep, lol

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By *uppy ConquerorMan
over a year ago

dundee

"And it's over I take it....I wonder how much is whole affair cost the tax payer?

This on is "
What's the price of democracy? Look around the world cheeky, where people pay for it with there lives.

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Well, I think it's safe to say it's done now.

I think the turnout has shown people everywhere that it's important to get out and vote whatever the result.

So now it's all been and done, it's time for people to hug each other and put aside their political differences without recriminations as we all have to live and work together

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh come on Highlands, declare so I can post the final result and go get a couple of hours sleep, lol

You're hardcore!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OOh, Good morning Carol Kirkwood

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh come on Highlands, declare so I can post the final result and go get a couple of hours sleep, lol

You're hardcore!"

Just want to be thorough that's all

I bet they don't declare for hours, lol

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"So does 'no' mean 'no'?

Or just 'not right now - let's try again in a few years'?

I think it's already been mentioned in the coverage that this is a decision that will stand for the next 15 years.

So, expect this to all kick off again around 2027"

Eck said "Well, that's my view. In my view this is a once in a generation, perhaps even once in a lifetime opportunity for Scotland. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh come on Highlands, declare so I can post the final result and go get a couple of hours sleep, lol

You're hardcore!

Just want to be thorough that's all

I bet they don't declare for hours, lol"

I'd like to know as it's my area! If it's a yes win it may be the only thing that gets me out of buying butties at tea break!

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By *hrissie1961Woman
over a year ago

dumfries and galloway

Whoooooooo hooooooooo

always been a unionist

Happy happy happy here

Credit where's it due...YeSNP got people engaged in politics......transform that into productive actions...to make Scotland better...to the rest of the Uk......let's hope this mean electrol reform for all.....so we have a fairer country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well, I think it's safe to say it's done now.

I think the turnout has shown people everywhere that it's important to get out and vote whatever the result.

So now it's all been and done, it's time for people to hug each other and put aside their political differences without recriminations as we all have to live and work together

Well said. I was amazed listening to people in their 50's saying they'd never voted until yesterday. I'm glad we are all still together.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Whoooooooo hooooooooo

always been a unionist

Happy happy happy here

I hope for this too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh come on Highlands, declare so I can post the final result and go get a couple of hours sleep, lol

You're hardcore!

Just want to be thorough that's all

I bet they don't declare for hours, lol

I'd like to know as it's my area! If it's a yes win it may be the only thing that gets me out of buying butties at tea break!"

Apparently the result has been delayed due to an earlier accident on the A9

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are staying

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh come on Highlands, declare so I can post the final result and go get a couple of hours sleep, lol

You're hardcore!

Just want to be thorough that's all

I bet they don't declare for hours, lol

I'd like to know as it's my area! If it's a yes win it may be the only thing that gets me out of buying butties at tea break!

Apparently the result has been delayed due to an earlier accident on the A9"

Yeah was really foggy last night. About par for the course round here unfortunately.

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Unlucky scotland. You had a great oppurtunity but unfortunitly decides to stick with the status quo.

people are scared of change and stick within their comfort zones.

Feel for the yes voters, if I was living in scotland id certainly have voted yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A victory for all methinks, except perhaps a few bigwigs at Westminster...

Salmond, I feel, will be delighted with securing 'devo-max-plus' (and 2 years ago, probably would have bitten Cameron's hand off to take it), lots of people engaged with politics.... I hope the yes campaign aren't too disappointed and savour the gains all of Scotland has made together.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fantastic turnout.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you all don't mind, I need to go take a nap.

Looks like the Highlands result might take a while anyway, as they've only recently announced the turnout.

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Absoultey delighted at the result. It's been a horrible, horrible campaign and I' glad it's over.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Amazing turnout and I'm glad there Union isn't being broken up but this is so close it will be back.

Inverclyde's 13% who didn't vote and 86 votes giving it to No shows a place split apart.

I really hope people can heal and stop the pain of turning on each other.

The news story is about England and that is wrong today. Nige will see his dreams come true.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"If you all don't mind, I need to go take a nap.

Looks like the Highlands result might take a while anyway, as they've only recently announced the turnout.

You did a grand job. Sleep well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Final result :

Highland declares

Turnout 87%

87,739 'No' votes (53%)

78.069 'Yes'votes (47%)

Total votes so far

2,001,926 'No' votes (55%)

1,617,989 'Yes' votes (45%)

'No' has it by 383,937 votes

Total Votes cast 3,619,915.

32/32 Declared

Nap time

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

One very happy bunny here!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Some unhappy people in work today unfortunately, it's hardly a total failure is it?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

After all the arguing, I hope there is a lot of make up sex taking place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a, Scotsman. living in, England. Scotland. in my humble opinion, has voted the right way.

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

I suppose this means we will have to put up with the noisy neighbours for another 400 years

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Sadly people have lost friendships and families have been split by this.

Due to the 'vociferous' nature of the 'Yes" campaign - it would appear that a great many of the no voters were indeed the silent 'no' voters.

Some of the 'Yes' voters are referring to the 'No" voters as traitors and non-Scots. You should be shamed of yourselves.

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings

I knew they would bottle it at the last moment !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"After all the arguing, I hope there is a lot of make up sex taking place.

Every cloud has a silver lining!!!

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I knew they would bottle it at the last moment !"

That's such a stupid thing to say.

A democratic vote took place and the results are fair. There's no need to be insulting. It's got nothing to do with bottle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

all those votes cast and nothing has changed , westminster will decide if we are to get any new powers , westminster will decide what piss poor new powers we get , westminster will decide when we might possably get any new powers , wonder how thats going to go with a westminster election not too far off ?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Penny to a pound that we will be back here in 5 to 10 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

next year would be better

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"all those votes cast and nothing has changed , westminster will decide if we are to get any new powers , westminster will decide what piss poor new powers we get , westminster will decide when we might possably get any new powers , wonder how thats going to go with a westminster election not too far off ?"

the vote however it went was always going to mean a few changes in the country and whilst that's not happened yet I think in 5 to 10 yrs we will all look back and say it was the Scottish referendum that was the catalyst..

its not about where the power is held, be that Westminster, Holyrood, Stormont or Cardiff its about how we allow ourselves to be governed and how we try and become a more equal and fair society..

that I thought was partly where the SNP got it wrong in making it a 'the Westminster lot against us', most people saw through it and realised it was a smoke screen from the facts that many in the no camp wanted answered..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well there appears to be a clear majority for No, but it's not one too crow about. There needs to be significant change now. "
You a;lready get more per head and great deals on NHS prescriptions Free uni for your young adults...What the fuck is your gripe?

Do you think your any different to anyone else from a big northern city? or do you think its Scotlands god given right to put in less and take out more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I knew they would bottle it at the last moment !"
Only a complete moron could come out with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some unhappy people in work today unfortunately, it's hardly a total failure is it? "
In a nutshell its 7/1 really results wise which put into football terms is a hammering

28 to 4 and with 3 of the 4 being large secretarian areas really does say it all,thank god sense prevailed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well there appears to be a clear majority for No, but it's not one too crow about. There needs to be significant change now. You a;lready get more per head and great deals on NHS prescriptions Free uni for your young adults...What the fuck is your gripe?

Do you think your any different to anyone else from a big northern city? or do you think its Scotlands god given right to put in less and take out more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you think your any different to anyone else from a big northern city? or do you think its Scotlands god given right to put in less and take out more

That is interesting. The No campaign did keep referring to the greater spending per Scottish head. I wondered if there were any specific figures compared with revenue raised per head. The good old BBC has them here - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24866266 - and if they are correct it appears that they generate much more than we do when oil and gas revenue is taken into account. The difference in per head spending should be much more to even it up. So it does seem that Scotland is losing out."
Oil companies generate the money,All the renewable energy program in Scotland has been set up by the uk government,The uk waters hold the oil,I pay more in taxes than the bloke across the road who is on benefits,am i losing out or is it a union.

Were Scotland not getting a fair deal before the oil boom(Which will be gone in our lifetime)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you think your any different to anyone else from a big northern city? or do you think its Scotlands god given right to put in less and take out more

That is interesting. The No campaign did keep referring to the greater spending per Scottish head. I wondered if there were any specific figures compared with revenue raised per head. The good old BBC has them here - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24866266 - and if they are correct it appears that they generate much more than we do when oil and gas revenue is taken into account. The difference in per head spending should be much more to even it up. So it does seem that Scotland is losing out.Oil companies generate the money,All the renewable energy program in Scotland has been set up by the uk government,The uk waters hold the oil,I pay more in taxes than the bloke across the road who is on benefits,am i losing out or is it a union.

Were Scotland not getting a fair deal before the oil boom(Which will be gone in our lifetime)"

I have no vested interest. I am happy that Scotland voted No.

I do not really understand the point you are making.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you think your any different to anyone else from a big northern city? or do you think its Scotlands god given right to put in less and take out more

That is interesting. The No campaign did keep referring to the greater spending per Scottish head. I wondered if there were any specific figures compared with revenue raised per head. The good old BBC has them here - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24866266 - and if they are correct it appears that they generate much more than we do when oil and gas revenue is taken into account. The difference in per head spending should be much more to even it up. So it does seem that Scotland is losing out.Oil companies generate the money,All the renewable energy program in Scotland has been set up by the uk government,The uk waters hold the oil,I pay more in taxes than the bloke across the road who is on benefits,am i losing out or is it a union.

Were Scotland not getting a fair deal before the oil boom(Which will be gone in our lifetime)

I have no vested interest. I am happy that Scotland voted No.

I do not really understand the point you are making.

I was just interested in the figures behind the argument that Scotland is effectively subsidised. If the figures on the BBC site are true (and assuming that there are no other significant factors involved), it seems that Scotland is the one subsidising the UK."
My point is its a Union,Scotland is England and vice versa , in this Uk union everyone subsidises someone else one way or another.If for example England took Oil out of her waters would it be good reason to ditch Scotland and Wales/NI Only the greedy thinking of themselves and the secretarian areas voted yes,now if they dont like being under Westminster rule there is plenty of room in Ireland for you as most of the Irish are in England with Half the Scots!

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings

"I knew they would bottle it at the last moment !Only a complete moron could come out with that"

So why was the yes vote so strong until the actual vote. They realized it was better to stay

i did post my original comment a few days before the poll

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings

"I knew they would bottle it at the last moment !Only a complete moron could come out with that"

and could you please use my proper title

Mr moron

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Salmond to resign...

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By *hrissie1961Woman
over a year ago

dumfries and galloway

Salmond resigns......yes result

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

He took the leap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes and have you all seen the bloke who did part of the counting outing in his vote yes on you tube in Edinburgh sneaky cheating twats vote fixing

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Yes and have you all seen the bloke who did part of the counting outing in his vote yes on you tube in Edinburgh sneaky cheating twats vote fixing "

and he wasn't stopped by whomever filmed it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is this the end for Salmand?

He came out with some pretty harsh stuff during the campaigning."

His party are not to happy with him see him retiring from politics " bitter and twisted man" like all politicians he promised and never delivered..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And mr salmond steps down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh good, he can now become a Eurocrat and earn lots of money in Brussels like a good little socialist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's all kicking off in Glasgow right now. Two stabbings. One in George square one in Buchanan street. Thugs disguised as no voters clad in Union jacks are making nazi salutes and singing rule britianna while at attacking people with scottish flags. It's really sad it's ended like this. The police seem to have lost control.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"It's all kicking off in Glasgow right now. Two stabbings. One in George square one in Buchanan street. Thugs disguised as no voters clad in Union jacks are making nazi salutes and singing rule britianna while at attacking people with scottish flags. It's really sad it's ended like this. The police seem to have lost control. "

That's awful! I feared the divisions would be difficult to heal but I didn't expect thuggish violence.

So democracy and the right to determine a future as long as it goes the way you want it to go?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really hope people don't believe these idiots kicking off trouble represent majority of no voters. No was known as the silent majority for a reason. As for attacking anyone with a soltire they forget it's Scotland flag not the yes campaigns so anyone Scottish is entitled to display it. What I don't understand Is the yes voters who went knowing no would be there and thought nothing would go wrong. Nieve but then that describes many uninformed yes voters

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

Really? How sad for both sides

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did you see the sky reporter being effectively manhandled by Nic Sturgeons Yes minders.."

The yes mob we're present in large numbers bullying everyone they could....didn't work tho.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Unrest in Glasgow, yes voters demanding recounts and claiming widespread electoral fraud based on heavily out of context mobile phone videos. It's all going wrong as many predicted.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Not sure what the true story is here - the BBC website says the stabbing a were reported on social media sites (no doubt twatter and bookface) - but police have no knowledge and nothing has been reported to them or other emergency services.

Could just be shit stirring by both sides online.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's awful! I feared the divisions would be difficult to heal but I didn't expect thuggish violence.

So democracy and the right to determine a future as long as it goes the way you want it to go?

it did go their way, imagine the reaction if hadnt !!

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By *uppy ConquerorMan
over a year ago

dundee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a damn shame its come down to mindless violence on both sides!! Hope all this unrests calms down!

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

"One very happy bunny here!!!

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By *ntheswingCouple
over a year ago

middlesbrough

"That is interesting. The No campaign did keep referring to the greater spending per Scottish head. I wondered if there were any specific figures compared with revenue raised per head. The good old BBC has them here - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24866266 - and if they are correct it appears that they generate much more than we do when oil and gas revenue is taken into account. The difference in per head spending should be much more to even it up. So it does seem that Scotland is losing out."

The persistence of average per capita public expenditure is lower in England than elsewhere•

Northern Ireland £9,385

•Scotland £8,623

•Wales £8,139

•England £7,121

Have a look online the figures are there to be seen.

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Its a damn shame its come down to mindless violence on both sides!! Hope all this unrests calms down! "

Its very limited and a small group. Its not like its right acorss the country (thank god).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The persistence of average per capita public expenditure is lower in England than elsewhere•

Northern Ireland £9,385

•Scotland £8,623

•Wales £8,139

•England £7,121

Have a look online the figures are there to be seen.

As much as i appreciate that many people in England get upset at seeing figures like this there are many factors which affect the costs of providing public services.

one way in which England benefits is having a higher population which leads to the overheads of providing services being spread among more people giving greater economies of scale, this has the effect of reducing the average expenditure per person.

There are many ways to interpret and explain figures/stats and it often suits people in positions of power to keep us focussed on being angry at each other to take focus away from them, divide and conquer its been effective throughout history.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

The persistence of average per capita public expenditure is lower in England than elsewhere•

Northern Ireland £9,385

•Scotland £8,623

•Wales £8,139

•England £7,121

Have a look online the figures are there to be seen.

As much as i appreciate that many people in England get upset at seeing figures like this there are many factors which affect the costs of providing public services.

Looking a straight set of numbers tells you very little.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

We are so glad the voting is over, it has led to a clear unambiguous result and we can get back to taking the piss out of each other! I'm a Scot in England with a Welsh gf in England and I was dreading losing part of my history (all of our history). We are so much better together and need to stop being parochial and get on with enjoying the Rugby, Football, etc and be proud of where we come from without trying to be narrowly nationalistic. I'm proud to be Scottish first, British second and European third. If asked in Europe, i'm British, if asked in Britain, I'm Scottish. But my nationality is British and I'm proud of it.

I just hope after a few days people calm down and recognise a decision was made and it should be honoured..., i'm hopeful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The next vote will be in 30yrs plus, the oil will be gone and I am sure the conservatives will do their best to help you leave then.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

If Conservatives, Labour, and Lib dems don't deliver now on the promises they made to scotland i think there will be public uproar in scotland from all sides of the yes and no vote. Maybe in England, Wales and Northern Ireland too?

I'm sick of seeing broken promises from the Tories, Labour and the Lib dems over the years, i think that is why there has been such low turn out in european and general elections, people are disillusioned with politics. This may now change with the referendum if they stick to the promises they made...but if they don't then i hope the good people of all the United Kingdom will give the Conservative/Labour/Lib dem mainstream a good kicking at the general election by voting Green party if you're on the left or UKIP if you are on the right. No more lies or broken promises from westminster, people won't stand for it anymore!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The next vote will be in 30yrs plus, the oil will be gone and I am sure the conservatives will do their best to help you leave then. "

The oil will be gone and so will I.

If I may I'd offer this advice to the proponents of independence before the next referendum.

Promise to dump the Monarchy.

Forget the 'keeping the £' nonsense.

Set a date for a Scottish Parliament election within 3 months of the referendum and a Presidential election a year after.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck scotland n their poxy independence!!! I say the rest of the union has a vote on if we want to allow scotland to be part of great britain now!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fuck scotland n their poxy independence!!! I say the rest of the union has a vote on if we want to allow scotland to be part of great britain now!!!!!"

Do they actually let you vote?

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By *arnaclebillMan
over a year ago

Robin Hood County

"Hopefully approved by Jez!

So the Jockinese are staying with us then

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By *arnaclebillMan
over a year ago

Robin Hood County

Why would anyone except for a loonie vote for the green party

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Why would anyone except for a loonie vote for the green party"

Vote for anyone you like as long as its not Conservative/Labour/Lib dem if they don't keep their promises.....Green party, UKIP, Plaid Cymru, SNP, Respect, Monster raving looney party, .... take your pick?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why would anyone except for a loonie vote for the green party

i want to stand for parliament, under the banner: billy barty's arty farty smarty party

can i count on your vote

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Why would anyone except for a loonie vote for the green party

i want to stand for parliament, under the banner: billy barty's arty farty smarty party

can i count on your vote

No, i'll be voting UKIP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why would anyone except for a loonie vote for the green party

i want to stand for parliament, under the banner: billy barty's arty farty smarty party

can i count on your vote

No, i'll be voting UKIP.

fuck it then, im going after independence, welcome to the peoples republic of Binorovia

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By *arnaclebillMan
over a year ago

Robin Hood County

Why would anyone except for a loonie vote for the green party

So the Green Party, UKIP, Plaid Cymru, SNP, Respect, etc etc all keep their promises do they? How do you know when they have never been and are never likely to get any power

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ever since the result was finalised yesterday morning, my FB and Twitter timelines have been awash with Yes propaganda about vote rigging based on a couple of short dodgy videos, and online petitions calling for a re-run. Not to mention one meme saying they've already voted to not give the Scots anything. Given that it's a Saturday quite how that could have happened I don't know, but the fact that it's been shared shows that the morons are prepared to believe anything on social media.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure I read somewhere that if Scotland got the "Yes" vote, then the Shetland Islands were going to break away on their own. They say the oil fields are in their waters.

Might have dreamed this though

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"I'm sure I read somewhere that if Scotland got the "Yes" vote, then the Shetland Islands were going to break away on their own. They say the oil fields are in their waters.

Might have dreamed this though

No you didnt dream, I saw it too. Also saw their MSP being interviewed during Results night - he said something along the lines of 'they would be entitled to consider the option for self-determination if it was a Yes result' or something like that....

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The motion to be laid before Parliament reads

“That this House welcomes the result of the Scottish independence referendum and the decision of the people of Scotland to remain part of the United Kingdom; recognises that people across Scotland voted? for a Union based on the pooling and sharing of resources and for the? continuation of devolution inside the United Kingdom; notes the statement by the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition regarding the guarantee of and timetable for further devolution to Scotland; calls on the Government to lay before Parliament a Command Paper including the proposals of all three UK political parties by 30th October and to consult widely with the Scottish people, civic Scotland and the Scottish Parliament on these proposals; further calls on the Government to publish heads of agreement by the end of November and draft clauses for the new Scotland Bill by the end of January 2015."

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The motion to be laid before Parliament reads

It would appear that the disgruntled Yes campaign feels this isn't fast enough.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The particle accelerator at CERN wouldn't be fast enough for some of them.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I said it would all start up again on 20th and I see now that Salmond is saying "no" voters were tricked by the vow.

With Sturgeon in the running as the new SNP leader we're in for more talk of independence.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

They're a one trick pony and independence is their trick.

The Edinburgh Agreement says there won't be another referendum for a generation.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

I think the promises made by both sides were wilder than my best fantasies - but actually the referendum result is going to lead to change. I would rather we did the right thing slightly slower than the wrong thing rapidly...

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I think the promises made by both sides were wilder than my best fantasies - but actually the referendum result is going to lead to change. I would rather we did the right thing slightly slower than the wrong thing rapidly..."

I agree with that.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

i already hear the chanting at the next rally ....

What do we want?

Gradual change

When do we want it?

In due course

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

i already hear the chanting at the next rally ....

What do we want?

Gradual change

When do we want it?

In due course"

Brilliant!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

To be saying, not 2 days after the result, that they've been tricked and nothing is going to happen is just the Yes's very own brand of scaremongering and shows just how unrealistic they were being in their expectations.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

I agree with that.

ditto..

in the grand scheme of things getting it as near right as one can to satisfy the majority is better than knee jerk get it sorted before the election legislation..

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"To be saying, not 2 days after the result, that they've been tricked and nothing is going to happen is just the Yes's very own brand of scaremongering and shows just how unrealistic they were being in their expectations. "

And to be demanding a recount now and a rerun in 3 years demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of the Edinburgh Agreement.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

i already hear the chanting at the next rally ....

What do we want?

Gradual change

When do we want it?

In due course"

That made me laugh

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Where have all the Cybernats gone?

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