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By *rixiesw OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

S.Westerly

A thread was started asking who would bareback etc. The response was wide and vast but a clear majority saying that you would have to be mad.

I for one agree with safe sex, however, in all the time we have been scared shitless about std's and in particular hiv, the one thing that has always surprised me is the fact that there is little written about exactly how it is transmitted. It is simply broad brushed with don't have unprotected sex.

It would be nice to have some factual info about it rather than just being scared shitless.

1. Oral sex, risky?

2. Anal sex, how risky if withdrawn prior?

3. Virginal sex, same as above?

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By *ratty_DamselWoman
over a year ago

New Cross

Sod HIV.

More worrying is Hep B and thats extremely easy to catch.

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By *rixiesw OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

S.Westerly


"Sod HIV.

More worrying is Hep B and thats extremely easy to catch. "

Can you not be vaccinated against Hep B?

When you say it's easier to catch, what do you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont know the exact statistics but oral is low risk... Still a risk... Anal is highest risk bare of the three mentioned due to the increased risk of cuts or bleeding... And vaginal is obviously a risk.

Many won't even do anal bare with a partner.

Oral to be fair I have to say I've sucked my fair share of Cocks bare... And touch wood never caught anything x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's always surprising how many people have unprotected oral and don't test regularly. It's a risk most take and most are oblivious to the risk.... No matter how safe you think you are, everyone that plays should get regular screening x

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By *rixiesw OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

S.Westerly


"It's always surprising how many people have unprotected oral and don't test regularly. It's a risk most take and most are oblivious to the risk.... No matter how safe you think you are, everyone that plays should get regular screening x"

I agree but the reason why not as many get screened is the fact that the UK is still leap years behind the rest of Europe in making it easy to get screened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hopefully this thread won't degenerate into bareback bashing.

We don't practice bare-back, but we would genuinely appreciate some input from those that do.

How is it that those that practice this resolve the issues around STI's and what are those that do this thoughts on it.

We are not asking for justifications for doing it, just an insight into what it is all about.

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By *rixiesw OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

S.Westerly


"Hopefully this thread won't degenerate into bareback bashing.

We don't practice bare-back, but we would genuinely appreciate some input from those that do.

How is it that those that practice this resolve the issues around STI's and what are those that do this thoughts on it.

We are not asking for justifications for doing it, just an insight into what it is all about.

I agree in as much as it is clear that the bareback brigade are not a small number and yet it doesn't appear that they are all catching sti's or std's?

I am not looking to justify it either, simply to know how worried we should all be. Facts are still in short supply

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope this helps.

Risk-per-exposure

Vaginal sex, female-to-male, studies in high-income countries - 0.04% (1:2380)

Vaginal sex, male-to-female, studies in high-income countries - 0.08% (1:1234)

Vaginal sex, female-to-male, studies in low-income countries - 0.38% (1:263)

Vaginal sex, male-to-female, studies in low-income countries - 0.30% (1:333)

Vaginal sex, source partner is asymptomatic - 0.07% (1:1428)

Vaginal sex, source partner has late-stage disease - 0.55% (1:180)

Receptive anal sex amongst gay men, partner unknown status - 0.27% (1:370)

Receptive anal sex amongst gay men, partner HIV positive - 0.82% (1:123)

Receptive anal sex with condom, gay men, partner unknown status - 0.18% (1:555)

Insertive anal sex, gay men, partner unknown status - 0.06% (1:1666)

Insertive anal sex with condom, gay men, partner unknown status - 0.04% (1:2500)

Receptive fellatio - Estimates range from 0.00% to 0.04% (1:2500)

Mother-to-child, mother takes at least two weeks antiretroviral therapy - 0.8% (1:125)

Mother-to-child, mother takes combination therapy, viral load below 50 - 0.1% (1:1000)

Injecting drug use - Estimates range from 0.63% (1:158) to 2.4% (1:41)

Needlestick injury, no other risk factors- 0.13% (1:769)

Blood transfusion with contaminated blood - 92.5% (9:10)

Sources: vaginal sex;1 anal sex;2 fellatio;3 2 mother-to-child;4 other activities.

References

1 Boily MC et al. Heterosexual risk of HIV-1 infection per sexual act: systematic review and meta-analysis of observational studies. Lancet Infect Dis 9(2): 118-129, 2009

2 Vittinghoff E et al. Per-contact risk of human immunodeficiency virus transmission between male sexual partners. American Journal of Epidemiology 150: 306-311, 1999

3 Del Romero J et al. Evaluating the risk of HIV transmission through unprotected orogenital sex. AIDS 16(9): 1296-1297, 2002

4 Townsend C et al. Low rates of mother-to-child transmission of HIV following effective pregnancy interventions in the United Kingdom and Ireland, 2000-2006. AIDS 22: 973-981, 2008

5 Baggaley RF et al. Risk of HIV-1 transmission for parenteral exposure and blood transfusion. AIDS 20: 805-812, 2006

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A thread was started asking who would bareback etc. The response was wide and vast but a clear majority saying that you would have to be mad.

I for one agree with safe sex, however, in all the time we have been scared shitless about std's and in particular hiv, the one thing that has always surprised me is the fact that there is little written about exactly how it is transmitted. It is simply broad brushed with don't have unprotected sex.

It would be nice to have some factual info about it rather than just being scared shitless.

1. Oral sex, risky?

2. Anal sex, how risky if withdrawn prior?

3. Virginal sex, same as above?

"

Forgot to say, it doesn't matter if ejaculation takes place. It's more about the abrasions that occur during sex - this leads to blood to blood exposure.

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By *rixiesw OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

S.Westerly

Wow 21pions, that is the most informed writing I have ever seen, thank you.

Makes for interesting reading indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not just how you play its who you play with and their ideas on what safe sex is too and how often they get checked etc.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Sod HIV.

More worrying is Hep B and thats extremely easy to catch.

Can you not be vaccinated against Hep B?

When you say it's easier to catch, what do you mean?"

Funny how many people one would expect to know the truth about STI's and HIV are still virtually totally ignorant of the facts.

By the way the virus that should scare people is Hep C, it can be caught from all body fluids (that includes sweat) and has quite a poor prognosis (although improving all the time).

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

I'm vaccinated against Hep A and B due to once working in a prison...however the NHS website says Hep B is available to those who are sexually active with many partners so I would have asked for it at the clap clinic if I weren't already covered...according to NHS Hep C can be transmitted sexually, but it's rare

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I'm vaccinated against Hep A and B due to once working in a prison...however the NHS website says Hep B is available to those who are sexually active with many partners so I would have asked for it at the clap clinic if I weren't already covered...according to NHS Hep C can be transmitted sexually, but it's rare"

Up till very recently HIV was called a STI on that same site. However because of people like me pointing out that actually it is a hemovirus (blood virus) with only 1 vector blood. Hep A,B and C are also classed as hemoviruses, but my doctor and my local GUM clinic tell me Hep C can be contracted from all body fluids and unless Hep C is diagnosed by blood test screening it is lightly that a prognosis will be contra indicated (terminal) by the time damage to the liver is so severe that a GP will order screening. Early diagnosis = 85%+ chance of survival (so I have been advised).

I get myself checked every 3 months. I also ask intelligent questions of healthcare professionals, it gets me more honest information.

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