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"The terrorist job is to create fear and panic first, kill maim and injure second. People who perpetrate crimes such as these are effectively disruptive. So as far as I can see the job is done. What is going on in London et al is nothing compared to the crimes our own government are doing elsewhere. Two wrongs never make a right, communication has been proven in our history to be the key to peace. Put yourself in someone's shoes in Baghdad or Helmand or West Bank to name a few, then maybe we will understand motive. Don't listen to the lie!!" What lie? | |||
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"The terrorist job is to create fear and panic first, kill maim and injure second. People who perpetrate crimes such as these are effectively disruptive. So as far as I can see the job is done. What is going on in London et al is nothing compared to the crimes our own government are doing elsewhere. Two wrongs never make a right, communication has been proven in our history to be the key to peace. Put yourself in someone's shoes in Baghdad or Helmand or West Bank to name a few, then maybe we will understand motive. Don't listen to the lie!!What lie?" One mans terrorist is another mans hero. Comparatively how many bombs go off in London with say Baghdad? We should count our blessings is what im saying, we as a nation march quite readily into the backyards of other nations yet we feel shocked and hurt when they come here. Perspective please it helps us understand motive. | |||
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"It may be easy for me to say this sat up here in a place that terrorists probably couldn't even point to on a map, but life has to go on. High alert or not, people can't stop living their life. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The terrorist job is to create fear and panic first, kill maim and injure second. People who perpetrate crimes such as these are effectively disruptive. So as far as I can see the job is done. What is going on in London et al is nothing compared to the crimes our own government are doing elsewhere. Two wrongs never make a right, communication has been proven in our history to be the key to peace. Put yourself in someone's shoes in Baghdad or Helmand or West Bank to name a few, then maybe we will understand motive. Don't listen to the lie!!What lie? One mans terrorist is another mans hero. Comparatively how many bombs go off in London with say Baghdad? We should count our blessings is what im saying, we as a nation march quite readily into the backyards of other nations yet we feel shocked and hurt when they come here. Perspective please it helps us understand motive." Seriously in the context of the thread does all that matter? Not really, its about being vigilant, not about why, be real. I for one am not counting my fucking blessings when these twats can and will and do disrupt the way we live our lives. | |||
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"The terrorist job is to create fear and panic first, kill maim and injure second. People who perpetrate crimes such as these are effectively disruptive. So as far as I can see the job is done. What is going on in London et al is nothing compared to the crimes our own government are doing elsewhere. Two wrongs never make a right, communication has been proven in our history to be the key to peace. Put yourself in someone's shoes in Baghdad or Helmand or West Bank to name a few, then maybe we will understand motive. Don't listen to the lie!!What lie? One mans terrorist is another mans hero. Comparatively how many bombs go off in London with say Baghdad? We should count our blessings is what im saying, we as a nation march quite readily into the backyards of other nations yet we feel shocked and hurt when they come here. Perspective please it helps us understand motive." ? | |||
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"The terrorist job is to create fear and panic first, kill maim and injure second. People who perpetrate crimes such as these are effectively disruptive. So as far as I can see the job is done. What is going on in London et al is nothing compared to the crimes our own government are doing elsewhere. Two wrongs never make a right, communication has been proven in our history to be the key to peace. Put yourself in someone's shoes in Baghdad or Helmand or West Bank to name a few, then maybe we will understand motive. Don't listen to the lie!!" West Bank!!!!!!!! Prey tell how that's the fault of our Government Helmand So chasing the Taliban and Alqueeda out of Afghanistan was a bad thing then Baghdad You'd better see Tony Blair about that one, and he ain't in Government now. Thank god | |||
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"The terrorist job is to create fear and panic first, kill maim and injure second. People who perpetrate crimes such as these are effectively disruptive. So as far as I can see the job is done. What is going on in London et al is nothing compared to the crimes our own government are doing elsewhere. Two wrongs never make a right, communication has been proven in our history to be the key to peace. Put yourself in someone's shoes in Baghdad or Helmand or West Bank to name a few, then maybe we will understand motive. Don't listen to the lie!!What lie? One mans terrorist is another mans hero. Comparatively how many bombs go off in London with say Baghdad? We should count our blessings is what im saying, we as a nation march quite readily into the backyards of other nations yet we feel shocked and hurt when they come here. Perspective please it helps us understand motive.Seriously in the context of the thread does all that matter? Not really, its about being vigilant, not about why, be real. I for one am not counting my fucking blessings when these twats can and will and do disrupt the way we live our lives. " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Bluezulu: The British government armed and supported the Israelis to oust the already incumbent Palestine regime. Its historical fact, we consistently ignore terror in this region. I can't be arsed giving you a history lesson. Afghanistan, ha, don't get me started on our righteous moral indignation on that one ffs. Terrorist???? Really???? Just because we have a bigger army doesn't make us any less of a terrorist organisation. Not worried about the why??? Omg I cannot believe people say that. Ignorance is not a defense, just ask any criminal defense lawyer. Good debate ![]() Typical leftie response . What about the Muslims running amok in Africa? What part of that is our fault. | |||
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"Bluezulu: The British government armed and supported the Israelis to oust the already incumbent Palestine regime. Its historical fact, we consistently ignore terror in this region. I can't be arsed giving you a history lesson. Afghanistan, ha, don't get me started on our righteous moral indignation on that one ffs. Terrorist???? Really???? Just because we have a bigger army doesn't make us any less of a terrorist organisation. Not worried about the why??? Omg I cannot believe people say that. Ignorance is not a defense, just ask any criminal defense lawyer. Good debate ![]() Leftie ??? Pmsl, I almost took that as an insult, from a racist no less | |||
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"Bluezulu: The British government armed and supported the Israelis to oust the already incumbent Palestine regime. Its historical fact, we consistently ignore terror in this region. I can't be arsed giving you a history lesson. Afghanistan, ha, don't get me started on our righteous moral indignation on that one ffs. Terrorist???? Really???? Just because we have a bigger army doesn't make us any less of a terrorist organisation. Not worried about the why??? Omg I cannot believe people say that. Ignorance is not a defense, just ask any criminal defense lawyer. Good debate ![]() You never mentioned Baghdad !!!!!!! We also armed most of Israel's neighbours too, supported Iraq during their war with Iran. London as the OP points out has been put on a state of high alert because of a possible terrorist attack, which I might add isn't coming from any Israeli or Jewish organisation. To be quite frank, I find your comments about Afghanistan laughable. Or would you prefer for the world to sit back and watch while girls are beaten raped and killed because they go to school, and women are forced back into the dark ages. You can read my posts on the George Galloway thread to view my views on why I support Israel. Oh and FYI I happen to know the OP personally and I know the job she does, Take care Londongirl, stay lucky, and above all stay safe | |||
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"Bluezulu: The British government armed and supported the Israelis to oust the already incumbent Palestine regime. Its historical fact, we consistently ignore terror in this region. I can't be arsed giving you a history lesson. Afghanistan, ha, don't get me started on our righteous moral indignation on that one ffs. Terrorist???? Really???? Just because we have a bigger army doesn't make us any less of a terrorist organisation. Not worried about the why??? Omg I cannot believe people say that. Ignorance is not a defense, just ask any criminal defense lawyer. Good debate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It may be easy for me to say this sat up here in a place that terrorists probably couldn't even point to on a map, but life has to go on. High alert or not, people can't stop living their life. " ![]() | |||
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"It may be easy for me to say this sat up here in a place that terrorists probably couldn't even point to on a map, but life has to go on. High alert or not, people can't stop living their life. ![]() Well let's all hope it's neither then hey. As for paranoia, I don't think one post on here from someone who lives in London and has seen first hand at the devastation terrorism causes equates to that | |||
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"It may be easy for me to say this sat up here in a place that terrorists probably couldn't even point to on a map, but life has to go on. High alert or not, people can't stop living their life. ![]() I am not paranoid and do get on with my life as it is a case of having to but people who live in areas that don't get Attacks because it would achieve nothing should actually keep their gobs shut!!! People in Warrington never thought it would happen to them whereas us Londoners are used to it. | |||
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"WOW get that stick out of your arse. This was not a political rant it was one of do you think we have too much media coverage. I love London and bombings were a part of growing up. " Oh, sorry I cant remove my posts. ![]() | |||
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"Whatever the rights or wrongs of the situation, I just hope we all stay safe. Untill you see the wrecked lives and bodies it doesn't hit home. ![]() Bravo bravo ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Whatever the rights or wrongs of the situation, I just hope we all stay safe. Untill you see the wrecked lives and bodies it doesn't hit home. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I grew up and live in a war zone ![]() Hopefully getting independence shortly and we won't be paying for everything there | |||
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"if you as an individual or we as a country choose to live in fear with all the knock on effects of that then 'they' have part achieved their aim.. not saying don't be aware or vigilant but that should be just a bit of common sense if something looks iffy.. actually be alert, we need more lerts.. " Did I say I was living in fear? I don't think so !!!!! | |||
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"if you as an individual or we as a country choose to live in fear with all the knock on effects of that then 'they' have part achieved their aim.. not saying don't be aware or vigilant but that should be just a bit of common sense if something looks iffy.. actually be alert, we need more lerts.. Did I say I was living in fear? I don't think so !!!!!" it wasn't aimed at anyone in particular.. | |||
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"WOW get that stick out of your arse. This was not a political rant it was one of do you think we have too much media coverage. I love London and bombings were a part of growing up. " Who is that comment about? Which post? | |||
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"WOW get that stick out of your arse. This was not a political rant it was one of do you think we have too much media coverage. I love London and bombings were a part of growing up. Oh, sorry I cant remove my posts. ![]() Nothing wrong with your posts. | |||
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"WOW get that stick out of your arse. This was not a political rant it was one of do you think we have too much media coverage. I love London and bombings were a part of growing up. Oh, sorry I cant remove my posts. ![]() It wasn't aimed at you | |||
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"WOW get that stick out of your arse. This was not a political rant it was one of do you think we have too much media coverage. I love London and bombings were a part of growing up. Who is that comment about? Which post?" The person it is aimed at should be aware and if not tough | |||
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"I'm being no more vigilant today in London than I am any other time I am here. To be honest, I am more on the look out for pick pockets than terrorists. I don't know what a terrorist looks like so I wouldn't know what to look out for anyway... crystal" How would you know what a pick pocket looks like either | |||
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"WOW get that stick out of your arse. This was not a political rant it was one of do you think we have too much media coverage. I love London and bombings were a part of growing up. Who is that comment about? Which post? The person it is aimed at should be aware and if not tough" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'm being no more vigilant today in London than I am any other time I am here. To be honest, I am more on the look out for pick pockets than terrorists. I don't know what a terrorist looks like so I wouldn't know what to look out for anyway... crystal How would you know what a pick pocket looks like either " Only when their hands are reaching into my hand bag! But you're right, you can't assume what pickpockets look like either. crystal | |||
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"I'm being no more vigilant today in London than I am any other time I am here. To be honest, I am more on the look out for pick pockets than terrorists. I don't know what a terrorist looks like so I wouldn't know what to look out for anyway... crystal How would you know what a pick pocket looks like either Only when their hands are reaching into my hand bag! But you're right, you can't assume what pickpockets look like either. crystal" Oh!, aren't they delightful urchins run by a Jewish geezer?. | |||
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"I would love to know what we are looking for when people say be more vigilant . We are not looking for a man with a black ball with bomb on it and a fizzling fuse. I wonder when the 'majority' of Muslims will be protesting in the streets over these terrorist and not just over some cartoon. " the latest threat level could also be linked to the continuity ira or some other bunch of nutters.. also what do you think the response of the right wing fuckwits (bnp/edl)would be to such a protest..? | |||
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"I would love to know what we are looking for when people say be more vigilant . We are not looking for a man with a black ball with bomb on it and a fizzling fuse. " Abandoned luggage is one thing to look out for. Anything that doesn't seem quite right. Humans are quite sensitive to such things, when we give ourselves time to listen to our instincts. | |||
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"I'm being no more vigilant today in London than I am any other time I am here. To be honest, I am more on the look out for pick pockets than terrorists. I don't know what a terrorist looks like so I wouldn't know what to look out for anyway... crystal How would you know what a pick pocket looks like either Only when their hands are reaching into my hand bag! But you're right, you can't assume what pickpockets look like either. crystal Oh!, aren't they delightful urchins run by a Jewish geezer?. " That's quite funny ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I would love to know what we are looking for when people say be more vigilant . We are not looking for a man with a black ball with bomb on it and a fizzling fuse. Abandoned luggage is one thing to look out for. Anything that doesn't seem quite right. Humans are quite sensitive to such things, when we give ourselves time to listen to our instincts." These people strap bombs to themselves . We have moved on from bombs in bins and the like. | |||
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"I would love to know what we are looking for when people say be more vigilant . We are not looking for a man with a black ball with bomb on it and a fizzling fuse. I wonder when the 'majority' of Muslims will be protesting in the streets over these terrorist and not just over some cartoon. the latest threat level could also be linked to the continuity ira or some other bunch of nutters.. also what do you think the response of the right wing fuckwits (bnp/edl)would be to such a protest..? " EDL fuckwits ha ha ha do you mean the people who have been telling us what these racist murdering terrorist are all about. | |||
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"I would love to know what we are looking for when people say be more vigilant . We are not looking for a man with a black ball with bomb on it and a fizzling fuse. I wonder when the 'majority' of Muslims will be protesting in the streets over these terrorist and not just over some cartoon. " Do the majority of Muslims protest against cartoons then? | |||
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"I would love to know what we are looking for when people say be more vigilant . We are not looking for a man with a black ball with bomb on it and a fizzling fuse. Abandoned luggage is one thing to look out for. Anything that doesn't seem quite right. Humans are quite sensitive to such things, when we give ourselves time to listen to our instincts. These people strap bombs to themselves . We have moved on from bombs in bins and the like." Yes I was thinking that as well. | |||
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"I would love to know what we are looking for when people say be more vigilant . We are not looking for a man with a black ball with bomb on it and a fizzling fuse. Abandoned luggage is one thing to look out for. Anything that doesn't seem quite right. Humans are quite sensitive to such things, when we give ourselves time to listen to our instincts. These people strap bombs to themselves . We have moved on from bombs in bins and the like." Not entirely we haven't. | |||
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"They have been on the streets more for salmon Rushdie and the Danish cartoons then the 7/7 bombings and the beheading of a British soldier" I suspect that 'tiny minority' is a more accurate description than 'majority' for the numbers involved in those demonstrations. 7/7 and the murder of Lee Rigby were met with widespread condemnation by the Muslim community. I'm struggling to see the point that you are making | |||
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"I would love to know what we are looking for when people say be more vigilant . We are not looking for a man with a black ball with bomb on it and a fizzling fuse. Abandoned luggage is one thing to look out for. Anything that doesn't seem quite right. Humans are quite sensitive to such things, when we give ourselves time to listen to our instincts. These people strap bombs to themselves . We have moved on from bombs in bins and the like." If people are intent to cause loss of life, they will do it by whatever means they can. | |||
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"I grew up and live in a war zone ![]() Woah, who's straying off topic now? Showing some true colours there I think! | |||
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"I grew up and live in a war zone ![]() What on earth do you mean lol get real | |||
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"I grew up and live in a war zone ![]() Actually I agree with him, I hope you are more rational in your job! ![]() | |||
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"I grew up and live in a war zone ![]() ![]() So you want to be another person who Sponges off the England Wales and Northern Ireland why would I want to pay for my kids uni and scots have it free !! That is a whole other thread not this one | |||
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"Bluezulu: The British government armed and supported the Israelis to oust the already incumbent Palestine regime. Its historical fact, we consistently ignore terror in this region. I can't be arsed giving you a history lesson. Afghanistan, ha, don't get me started on our righteous moral indignation on that one ffs. Terrorist???? Really???? Just because we have a bigger army doesn't make us any less of a terrorist organisation. Not worried about the why??? Omg I cannot believe people say that. Ignorance is not a defense, just ask any criminal defense lawyer. Good debate ![]() I think maybe you need to read some modern history rather than the imaginings of those who make money out of selling stories. To help you get started read about the Stern Gangs and the British fight to stop the Zionists occupying Palestine, that is a matter of historical record. | |||
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"Bluezulu: The British government armed and supported the Israelis to oust the already incumbent Palestine regime. Its historical fact, we consistently ignore terror in this region. I can't be arsed giving you a history lesson. Afghanistan, ha, don't get me started on our righteous moral indignation on that one ffs. Terrorist???? Really???? Just because we have a bigger army doesn't make us any less of a terrorist organisation. Not worried about the why??? Omg I cannot believe people say that. Ignorance is not a defense, just ask any criminal defense lawyer. Good debate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Speaking of Paranoia, I've just been watching some of the Edinburgh festival coverage and one of the comedians is of mixed Arab/Indian/Jewish descent and he was pointing out that he always gets stopped in customs and looks like he is a person of interest to every security service in the world.... " Your absolutely right, how dare the worlds security services use the past experience and the intelligence they spend millions collecting to develop profiles of those lightly to be of interest to them and then have their border security look for and check those that fit the profile! Its outrageous! Its nearly as bad as police doing the same and targeting areas of high crime! How dare they! ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"How would you know what a pick pocket looks like either " They are the ones that have their hand in someone elses pocket or bag! Quite easy to spot if you know what to look for! ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I lived in central London in the early 90's when bomb scares were common. I was evacuated from stations, buildings and various places numerous times because of bomb scares. It was get on with it or hide indoors and never go out. " Yup snap | |||
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