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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just been on bbc news, Theresa may saying Uk terror threat level raised to severe- attack highly likely.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

be vigilant and safe everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Worrying taking the grandchildren to London when these warnings come out

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings

"Worrying taking the grandchildren to London when these warnings come out "

Yes very worrying again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Worrying taking the grandchildren to London when these warnings come out "

I know what you mean. I do wonder why these warnings are made public.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Worrying taking the grandchildren to London when these warnings come out

I know what you mean. I do wonder why these warnings are made public."

to keep us all scared

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

What a load of rubbish.

'Be afraid people, be very afraid!'

'Of what?'

'Oh, er, something or other, mumble mumble Isis mumble terrorists blah blah Middle East...er...look, don't ask questions, just be scared, alright! Please?'

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

there is a statement at 2:45

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was thinking the other day..... Ouch!

If Scotland go it alone where will they get their intelligence from re terrorists? Will it be an open border between us and Scotland? It could be an open gateway for anyone to come in the country!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These are made public to reassure people and make them aware. So when they are travelling they might see more of a police presence and to keep people vigilant.

Nothing to be worried about.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Worrying taking the grandchildren to London when these warnings come out

Yes very worrying again"

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Stay safe but I'm trying not to worry as I'm flying to Denmark Tuesday...and I'm not a keen flyer as it is and probably have mad thoughts that there is a terrorist on my flight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

If... Some one was gonna do something... Whatever that may be... Would they not randomly do it when all are not on alert to them doing it? ie when people NOT expecting it?

In which case we should all be vigilant of what going on arond us all the time? Just a thought

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By *oxy lady 1Couple
over a year ago

oxford

It makes us all aware of possible threats, so we can all do our bit by being aware and carefull. It does scare me though ! Xxx

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Wonder what Hermann Goering would say about all this?

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?

Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood.

But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Something like that, probably.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It keeps the general public from asking any questions they find embarrassing.

Good for hiding bad news as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My husband and son missed being blown up on a train by minutes. If there was a warning beforehand could anything have been done? Would we have been stopping every suspicious looking Asian man with a back pack and demanding he show us the contents? Maybe the police would have but I wouldn't

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I was in London during 7/7 it's not a day I want to relive anytime soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm way more worried about the plans and continued action of the current and previous government than any terrorist organisation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was in London during 7/7 it's not a day I want to relive anytime soon "

So was I. I was staying in a hotel in Kensington on business. it was a worrying time.

I pray that this is juat vigilance and noone is going to be harmed in another terrorist tragedy

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS
over a year ago

Epsom

Please people. I like so many commute to and work in London. Yes we need to keep our eyes open. But we need to live too or they win anyway. Remember we are protected by some of the best people in the world and for every hit we incur there has been many attacks foiled in the planning. At the end of the day we could just as easily get hit by a bus x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's just scare mongering i think to be honest and it's just making everyone paranoid.

If they have intelligence of an imminent attack or individuals planning to carry out certain attacks. They should just deal with it there and then.

That's what the main thing is. He authorities can't just wait for something happen. Why not nip it in the bud?

Anyway, at least i get more seats to myself on the trains. Does get a bit lonely when i'm the only bugger in the carriage and everyone else is in the corner or the next one lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All it means is that there has been increased 'chatter' about an attack.

Possible attacks are foiled every day without many of them getting in the news.

The threat of an attack hangs over us everyday, people just don't think about it until a politician decides to mention it.

The reality there are those that will seek to attack the UK/US/the majority of european countries.

The UK had it years ago with the IRA, its just a different group now.

It isn't good living under the spectre of a potential terrorist incident, but as a previous poster has said, if you thought about the risks involved in a number of things, you'd never leave the house.

Terrorist attacks are a said reality, thats not to say we shouldn't be concerned, but i do take issue with way the government approaches them in what can often just be scaremongering.

perhaps if they actually addressed the cause of such attacks and dealt with the issues internationally rather than political rhetoric things may be a little easier.

Im sorry, rant over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's just scare mongering i think to be honest and it's just making everyone paranoid.

If they have intelligence of an imminent attack or individuals planning to carry out certain attacks. They should just deal with it there and then.

That's what the main thing is. He authorities can't just wait for something happen. Why not nip it in the bud?

Anyway, at least i get more seats to myself on the trains. Does get a bit lonely when i'm the only bugger in the carriage and everyone else is in the corner or the next one lol.

Oh dear Pops. Is it really as bad as that. I haven't been down the pipe for ages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wonder what Hermann Goering would say about all this?

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?

Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood.

Something like that, probably."

I love people who speak and quote sense rather than believe everything that's drip fed to them.

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By *himanMan
over a year ago

chichester

Defcon 1 !!!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

more people will die today and tomorrow and every foreseeable day from heart attacks, cancer, rtc's etc than from terrorism in this country..

being vigilant is not life changing and it need not be a worry..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In which case we should all be vigilant of what going on arond us all the time? Just a thought

Now that the threat level is raised to the point where politicians believe someone may want to do something I can at last relax, it's good to know that everyone else is now being vigilant. After all nobody takes any notice when the threat is merely substantial!

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I never worry about this. Little I can do so no point being concerned about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The daft part is Cameron has said that there is no specific intelligence about a specific attack. So, scaremongering as usual.

What he means is, we fucked up in Iraq and in Syria, consequently ISIS/IS have been allowed to take hold, who we know hate us, and are likely to try and attack us at some point.

So, we'd like to scare you.

We have fucked up in Iraq and Syria and at some point we are going to have to bomb them so by raising the threat level and scaring people, we may get a bit more public support when we bomb them.

(if we hadn't helped to install that lunatic Maliki in Iraq and actually done something about Assad at the time, we may not be in this position)

again, sorry about the rant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As others have said, attacks are foiled all the time, they just don't broadcast it. They don't give specific details of a threat so that-

a) people aren't only vigilant about one specific type of threat- they need to be aware of anything/ everything out of the ordinary.

b) the terrorists aren't alerted to the fact it is THEM in particular that are being watched.

It is likely to be something they can't track reliably yet have a high level of confidence that something will happen. Millions of eyes watching (the public) is better than hundreds of eyes watching (police agencies) for any issues.

Anyone that thinks the government/ crime agencies don't know what is going on... you're clueless.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

dammed if you give a warning, dammed if you don't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I defo need to see who is around the corner next time I am walking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's just scare mongering i think to be honest and it's just making everyone paranoid.

If they have intelligence of an imminent attack or individuals planning to carry out certain attacks. They should just deal with it there and then.

That's what the main thing is. He authorities can't just wait for something happen. Why not nip it in the bud?

Anyway, at least i get more seats to myself on the trains. Does get a bit lonely when i'm the only bugger in the carriage and everyone else is in the corner or the next one lol.

so funny!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The security threat is because of the NATO conference on the 4th and 5th in Gwent. Our schools have been closed those days, roads closed over the period and police everywhere. 9000 police officers draughted in!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"dammed if you give a warning, dammed if you don't"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My daughter lives near london and always spends her free time in london. I worry about her being there at the best of times but this situation has my stomach in knots and so woshing she was back home

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I was here on 7/7. I was also here during the 70s and 80s.

London has always been a potential attack point and being vigilant is a normal state of affairs. We're watching out for pickpockets, trip hazards, suspicious people and many other things.

7/7 was a shock because so many people were affected (and I know two of them) but the threat from the IRA in the 70s and 80s felt more dangerous to me. Maybe because I was younger and less cynical then.

I've just travelled through London by bus, tube and on foot and we're just getting on with the business of living.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If Little Britain stopped poking its nose into others business we wouldn't be a target.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The announcement, as others have mentioned, often aids in policing because people are more vigilant. It also is thought by some to act as a deterrant to an attack, i.e. 'oh, everyone's watching now so we can't do it'. The threat levels, the announcements of the situation, the vigilance of the public, the normal operations of security forces and police.... all are tools that the state uses. It's also partially propaganda that the government is watching, aware, and addressing the threats.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My daughter lives near london and always spends her free time in london. I worry about her being there at the best of times but this situation has my stomach in knots and so woshing she was back home

I would be the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well... it means there will probably be another war soon and this is a way to garner public support.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I went to London yesterday - trust me, the order had already gone out, the heavy police presence in and around the Capital yesterday.

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool

All I know is this..... if they are doing a drill somwhere in my city ie bomb drill, terrorist drill of some sort... then im getting as far away as possible.

9/11

7/7

Boston bombing

one thing all in common is they was doing drills the exact same day for the exact same things.

coincidence nahhhhh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Used to work in port security and alot of time ...the security levels can be raised due to threats in other countries...eg if there had been alot of terrorist activity in a country and the uk was expecting flights in from there ....the whole of uk airports or ports security would have highten security levels

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"I was here on 7/7. I was also here during the 70s and 80s.

London has always been a potential attack point and being vigilant is a normal state of affairs. We're watching out for pickpockets, trip hazards, suspicious people and many other things.

I've just travelled through London by bus, tube and on foot and we're just getting on with the business of living.

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exactly this, i remember the pub bombings in Woolwich and know people who were victims of this...( was alot younger but knew what was going on) This isn't new at all, was becoming a regular thing back then. It's been already said , we need carry on as usual as possible the alternative don't bare thinking about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am I the only one who thinks it's ironic all this? We've known we are at high risk for decades.. suddenly a mp joins Ukip so how do we beat that headline and divert public interest? Let's fire a security alert... hey presto..

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"Am I the only one who thinks it's ironic all this? We've known we are at high risk for decades.. suddenly a mp joins Ukip so how do we beat that headline and divert public interest? Let's fire a security alert... hey presto..

exactly

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By *angzMan
over a year ago

Manchester, London & sometimes Newcastle

"The daft part is Cameron has said that there is no specific intelligence about a specific attack. So, scaremongering as usual.

What he means is, we fucked up in Iraq and in Syria, consequently ISIS/IS have been allowed to take hold, who we know hate us, and are likely to try and attack us at some point.

So, we'd like to scare you.

We have fucked up in Iraq and Syria and at some point we are going to have to bomb them so by raising the threat level and scaring people, we may get a bit more public support when we bomb them.

(if we hadn't helped to install that lunatic Maliki in Iraq and actually done something about Assad at the time, we may not be in this position)

again, sorry about the rant"

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By *angzMan
over a year ago

Manchester, London & sometimes Newcastle

It must work as the threat of terror has been on my mind more than MP defecting to Ukip.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

saints preserve us ..so some people are truly manipulated by the media !

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By *hechairman18Man
over a year ago

Salford Quays , Manchester

I wonder if they will be taking extra precautions to keep Tony Blair safe.

As the guy who started this all off, he must be No1 prime target.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a fake threat just for government propaganda, just so they can create the new terror laws that was in the media last week..we dont need new laws,we just need to enforce the laws we already have......

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

ex prime minsters are protected for life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a load of rubbish.

'Be afraid people, be very afraid!'

'Of what?'

'Oh, er, something or other, mumble mumble Isis mumble terrorists blah blah Middle East...er...look, don't ask questions, just be scared, alright!

Please?'"

My thoughts entirely!!

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By *exsex2Couple
over a year ago

county

"I wonder if they will be taking extra precautions to keep Tony Blair safe.

As the guy who started this all off, he must be No1 prime target."
as much as I dispise Blair I think you'll find the British hankering for empire was where this all started - reap what you sow and all

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

is this David Copperfield ..hang on ..no no no

..Coverdale ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll be in London this weekend - I won't be concerned that my risk of death is higher than it was last time I was there. What's the point of living in fear of things you can neither control nor influence. If I sound flippant I don't mean too, I have a friend that was on one of the tubes on 7/7, he was fine, but a different carriage and a very different story. The liklihood of being in a terror attack is so small, I'll not worry about it. Living in a state of fear means that terrorism wins.

That said the cynic in me thinks that these announcements are not always linked to intelligence. They too often coincide with bad news needing burying. Or in this case perhaps conveniently timed to put the fear up those pesky 'yes' voting Scots who will need our government and army to defend them.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I'm 54 next month, Londoner born and bred. I have never left the capital for longer than three weeks. I've never lived or worked more than eight miles of where I was born.

I was more "nervous" when the IRA were active. I honestly don't see the boogie man on every street corner or worry about terror threats: I refuse to live my life in fear!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I was here on 7/7. I was also here during the 70s and 80s.

London has always been a potential attack point and being vigilant is a normal state of affairs. We're watching out for pickpockets, trip hazards, suspicious people and many other things.

I've just travelled through London by bus, tube and on foot and we're just getting on with the business of living.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I'll be in London this weekend - I won't be concerned that my risk of death is higher than it was last time I was there. What's the point of living in fear of things you can neither control nor influence. If I sound flippant I don't mean too, I have a friend that was on one of the tubes on 7/7, he was fine, but a different carriage and a very different story. The liklihood of being in a terror attack is so small, I'll not worry about it. Living in a state of fear means that terrorism wins.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do we really have much confidence in Britain's security services, hundreds of Iraqis' Iranians, Afghans are gathered at Calais on a daily basis and many get into the country, and this is only one route, the government report we have 1000;s of illegals in this country and they don't know where they are or the activities they are doing, but it's been that way for a very long time, personally I'm not to worried if it happens it does whether I worry or not

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"I'm 54 next month, Londoner born and bred. I have never left the capital for longer than three weeks. I've never lived or worked more than eight miles of where I was born.

I was more "nervous" when the IRA were active. I honestly don't see the boogie man on every street corner or worry about terror threats: I refuse to live my life in fear!"
same here! Plus born, live and work in London and intend to carry on regardless

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"I'm 54 next month, Londoner born and bred. I have never left the capital for longer than three weeks. I've never lived or worked more than eight miles of where I was born.

I was more "nervous" when the IRA were active. I honestly don't see the boogie man on every street corner or worry about terror threats: I refuse to live my life in fear! same here! Plus born, live and work in London and intend to carry on regardless

S "

Ditto but in Manchester. Had a few IRA bombs here over the years. Can't say it's stopped the locals just getting on with their lives.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"I'm 54 next month, Londoner born and bred. I have never left the capital for longer than three weeks. I've never lived or worked more than eight miles of where I was born.

Ditto but in Manchester. Had a few IRA bombs here over the years. Can't say it's stopped the locals just getting on with their lives. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was in London during 7/7 it's not a day I want to relive anytime soon "

The people saying that the threat level is rubbish & just scaremongering have very short memories.

Why do some people only get serious AFTER someone has been killed. It's too late after an atrocity to be thinking "wish id taken more notice of warnings".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a lode of poo they are just trying to stir things up

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Whether it is scaremongering or genuine is fairly irrelevant. What could any of us do, except be vigilant?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whether it is scaremongering or genuine is fairly irrelevant. What could any of us do, except be vigilant? "

If you worry about it you'd never leave the house!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We eere out in florida the xmas following 9/1. We were in disneyland on a monorail taking us into epcott i think. Unsurprisingly disneyland was very quiet and luckily we didnt have to queue for rides.

There was a few people in the carriage with us along with an American family. Now the dad had arms like arnie but he was hyper he was walking up and down the carriage looking at every passenger in turn trying to find a terrorist. Not much luck for him as it was december and the majority were pale white europeans.

The guys wife said to her hubby oh john will you relax and sit down and then john junior piped up dont worry mom if theres a terrorist on this train dad will get him.

We were all smiling at one another over this but the sad thing is making statements like the one released does cause this type of behaviour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whether it is scaremongering or genuine is fairly irrelevant. What could any of us do, except be vigilant? "

Maybe if this country got its head out of America's arse, we wouldn't have these threats.

IF there is a threat then either

a) There is gonna be a big bang in London again

b) The police will find them first.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I was in London during 7/7 it's not a day I want to relive anytime soon

The people saying that the threat level is rubbish & just scaremongering have very short memories.

Why do some people only get serious AFTER someone has been killed. It's too late after an atrocity to be thinking "wish id taken more notice of warnings". "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us."
best i go hide in the bunker in the garden then .... ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just think if something will happen terrorists will do it. They won't think oh their all scared we will leave them alone. All people can do is continue with their everyday lives but be careful.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us."

Er...how do you know he was a Muslim?

The only thing that is certain is that he was a madman. He was killing cats before he murdered this woman.

The government will never be able protect you from random mad people. What they will do, on the other hand, is prey on your fears and prejudices to make you less likely to question their actions.

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over a year ago

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us."

Has there been anything reported about his religion?

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us.

Has there been anything reported about his religion? "

The Sun put 'Muslim convert' on their front page. Using the inverted commas that mean 'we are pretending someone told us this'.

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over a year ago

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us.

Has there been anything reported about his religion? "

If you do a google search it is clear which websites the poster got their information from.

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By *hoursMan
over a year ago

manchester

miss may.....wouldnt piss in her if she was on fire

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

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"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us.

Er...how do you know he was a Muslim?

The only thing that is certain is that he was a madman. He was killing cats before he murdered this woman.

The government will never be able protect you from random mad people. What they will do, on the other hand, is prey on your fears and prejudices to make you less likely to question their actions."

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over a year ago

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us.

Has there been anything reported about his religion?

If you do a google search it is clear which websites the poster got their information from. "

Ok. No worries. I'm just a complete gullible fucking moron. It's all a complete load of lies. Don't believe 1 word of it. It's all totally made up. Plucked out of the air. Pie in the sky. Photos are fake & photoshopped. He didn't really convert to Islam in April. One of his parents is not really a Muslim & never has been. He didn't really copy the IS videos. It never happened. No ones mother/grandmother has been brutally murdered. Forget I ever mentioned it. I forgot there was more truth in the Beano or in a DC comic than in a news paper. Never fear, Iron Man & The Avengers will keep us safe. I forgot we all live in peace & harmony with good will to all men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us.

Has there been anything reported about his religion?

If you do a google search it is clear which websites the poster got their information from.

The murderer may have been muslim but is that the motive of the murder ? He was shouting about cats and he had decapitated a cat. He was obviously a madman. It may turn out it was he thought he was on a mission but I don't think it's an Islamist policy to rid Britain of pensioners and cats.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us.

Has there been anything reported about his religion?

If you do a google search it is clear which websites the poster got their information from.

See no evil, hear no evil speak no evil.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us."
dont think anyone was saying that we are" totaly safe on our little island" think the point was more yes these things are happening( and this is not the first time over the years) however what choice do we all have but to carry on as usual and be as vigilant as possible? If we all hide in the corner, never venturing out due to fear, have these people then not acheived their goals?

I for one will live my life , in London and carry on ... Regardless of the shit some papers sprout to sell papers.

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over a year ago

What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

..and to be honest. From this site i've lost the patience to just sit back and hear people chat shit (not directed to anyone). But, recently all my messages have been aimed at me - i got people messaging me, blaming me for what's happened in Rotherham, all the crap with Isis and a few other things.

If it wasn't for all this brain washing. I'd be seen on the same wavelength as the rest. Now, you can say what you want about me - but, i thought i'd share what's been happening lately.

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over a year ago

"What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

I said exactly this yesterday to crystal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

keeping sh!t on topic. I pray any terror cells get busted before they can carry out another 7/7 job or worse

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

If it wasn't for all this brain washing. I'd be seen on the same wavelength as the rest. Now, you can say what you want about me - but, i thought i'd share what's been happening lately.

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just shows the petty , pathetic minds if those who would send you such shit Pops .... Rest assured there are people who dont think like the ignorant sheep who have no opinions of their own , and are happy to be manipulated by the media... sarah ( no 1 stalker! Lol )

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

If it wasn't for all this brain washing. I'd be seen on the same wavelength as the rest. Now, you can say what you want about me - but, i thought i'd share what's been happening lately.

Idiots. Hope you have been reporting these messages to admin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

If it wasn't for all this brain washing. I'd be seen on the same wavelength as the rest. Now, you can say what you want about me - but, i thought i'd share what's been happening lately.

Fucking hell Pops.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

If it wasn't for all this brain washing. I'd be seen on the same wavelength as the rest. Now, you can say what you want about me - but, i thought i'd share what's been happening lately.

Hang in there, Popeye, - go & grab some spinach or something..

But I totally agree with you, dude!

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

in this day and age we should be vigilant at all times

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"in this day and age we should be vigilant at all times"

Indeed! Increased traffic on our roads, the poor state of repair of pavements thanks to council cuts, etc...the world is a dangerous place!

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over a year ago

"What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

I said exactly this yesterday to crystal"

And then they ask why is there a threat of terrorism. The mind boggles.

Don't they realise all they're doing is instilling hatred in those who are feeling victimised. Especially the young ones. They're all thinking the media hates them and everyone is out to get them. Not realising it's just a way for them to sell their stories and make money - it's not like the young ones are going to understand the politics behind all this.

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By *randmrsminxyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Fuck me , are we all sheep on this thread . Read the hidden news stories that this fucking lack lustre government are trying to hide today ,Yes it might happen then they say that the sas will have a forward base in London , so what are they saying , we don't give a shit about other major cities in the UK

oh the hidden news stories , uk passport office staff given big bonus this week and government get the arse kicked on benefits reforms

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over a year ago

The reality? Today, tomorrow,next week, anywhere anytime , a terrorist attack can occur, from all sorts of groups,

I could hire a white van, fill it with 2 tons of rubble and drive it into a on coming train, killing a dozen people injuring many more, maybe lose two men doing it, cost? Less than 300 pounds

Terrorism is easy to do, its a miracle that more haven't occurred, and shows how well are anti terror guys are (I hope to join),

On the middle east, its not imperialism , its simple need, america in particular who leads the wests alliance needs oil to run, iraq has lots of easy to get cheap oil, and the money invested in getting it is in the trillions, america will go to war with the whole middle east to guarantee its own energy security, hopefully we won't drag ourselves in with them, besides I think we should take greenland and iceland, have the whole north atlantic to ourselves. Its not like the danes can refuse us!!! Modern nations have huge needs oil is just one but is essential

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over a year ago

if britian stayed out of peoples business half way across the world then they would be ok. notice how theres never terror attacks in places that dont try play world police

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over a year ago

Most people are missing the point I was trying to get across & taken out of context by taking more understanding from the sarcy comments & not from what I was saying.

Any comments I made on this thread the other day & today were for the people that said upping the terror threat was just scaremongering & we shouldn't really take any notice. I never said or even implied we should hide away & never come out. That was others' sarcastic comments that mentioned that. To take a threat / warning seriously does not mean you have to run & hide. Just being vigilant like others have said, & keeping an eye out for suspicious people & packages, keeping in mind that anything can happen anywhere, that IS taking it seriously. My idea of someone NOT taking any threat seriously is someone that says it's all bullshit scaremongering & passing it off as the ramblings of an idiot. Only the naive think nothing can or will ever happen to them. I bet the poor people who died on 7/7 never thought anything would happen to them. People have short memories & forget we live in a sick world with some god damn evil sick people.

Who on here can say for definite that there are no extremist nutters in their town ready to kill like the despicable pair who killed poor Lee Rigby. No one can.

Being vigilant & taking it seriously is someone who, when out, notices a glimpse of shiny blade or handle just poking out of someone's pocket or coat or noticing a tiny glimpse of a wire poking from someone's bag or over hearing people talking about harming someone & calling the authorities. Someone who doesn't take it seriously is the person who doesn't notice anything because they are blind from their own thoughts of being safe until they hear a huge bang or hear someone has been killed by a TV news flash. By which time, it's too late. There have been members of the public that have noticed things over the last few years & stopped terrorist atrocities. They took it seriously & saved peoples lives.

Am I really that bad for hating to see innocent peoples' lives wasted by homegrown madmen who have publicly threatened us on social media. So sorry for being passionate & caring about life. Maybe I should be cold hearted & carefree like some others on here & jump on the "Bullshit Wagon" saying it's all a conspiracy by the establishment to oppress, intimidate & frighten the masses.

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over a year ago

"Fuck me , are we all sheep on this thread . Read the hidden news stories that this fucking lack lustre government are trying to hide today ,Yes it might happen then they say that the sas will have a forward base in London , so what are they saying , we don't give a shit about other major cities in the UK

oh the hidden news stories , uk passport office staff given big bonus this week and government get the arse kicked on benefits reforms "

why do you say lack lustre this government (unelected) is pathetic but we will probably have another 5 yrs of this terrible bunch ( minus the hopeless liar clegg) as the labour party with the equally hopeless millipead are unelectable

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

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over a year ago

"if britian stayed out of peoples business half way across the world then they would be ok. notice how theres never terror attacks in places that dont try play world police "

What about Africa then? When did they ever play at being "World Police" to deserve the atrocities being commited today by Boko Haram Muslims & when did they play at "World Police" to deserve a few Hundred school girls kidnapped & terrorised?

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over a year ago

There's a lot of chaos and a lot of bad people out there, personally I think we should restore order no matter the cost, on paper if killing 1 out of 10 people got you that order you would do it without a second thought, however in practise that's a lot of dead people, freedom can only be enjoyed in an ordered environment, but people will disagree, the beauty being they can in the uk, elsewhere in the world they can't

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over a year ago

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us.

Has there been anything reported about his religion?

If you do a google search it is clear which websites the poster got their information from.

Huffington post are reporting that The Sun are being widely condemned for it's 'deliberately inflammatory' front page.

Scotland Yard are still stressing that there is no terrorist link.

The suspect's name is in the public domain and is not islamic

All witness reports in all papers other tgan The Sun suggest that this was an indiscriminate attack likely by a man in a highly disturbed/deranged state of mindset

The Sun have a proven track record of fabricating stories to the point of fiction

Need I go on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure we will be fine, how many times have we had warnings an nothings happened? Not being funny but I've survived like 6 end of the world warnings maybe more so I'm sure we will be ok lol

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

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"if britian stayed out of peoples business half way across the world then they would be ok. notice how theres never terror attacks in places that dont try play world police "

Spain?

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over a year ago

"if britian stayed out of peoples business half way across the world then they would be ok. notice how theres never terror attacks in places that dont try play world police

Spain?"

Bali ?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"if britian stayed out of peoples business half way across the world then they would be ok. notice how theres never terror attacks in places that dont try play world police

Spain?

Bali ?"

Guess the attacks on Germany, Netherlands, France, India, Pakistan, (I'm sure I could think of others) dont count.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

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If it wasn't for all this brain washing. I'd be seen on the same wavelength as the rest. Now, you can say what you want about me - but, i thought i'd share what's been happening lately.

That is appalling.

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By *randmrsminxyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"So......

Now a Muslim has beheaded an 82 year old grandmother in her back garden, in Edmonton, North London.....

Is it still scaremongering???

He was a coward for attacking a pensioner in the 1st place, but he is not the only one who lives here that wants to hurt us.

Some people need to wake up from thinking we are safe on our little island & no one can hurt us.

Has there been anything reported about his religion?

If you do a google search it is clear which websites the poster got their information from.

Huffington post are reporting that The Sun are being widely condemned for it's 'deliberately inflammatory' front page.

Scotland Yard are still stressing that there is no terrorist link.

The suspect's name is in the public domain and is not islamic

All witness reports in all papers other tgan The Sun suggest that this was an indiscriminate attack likely by a man in a highly disturbed/deranged state of mindset

The Sun have a proven track record of fabricating stories to the point of fiction

Need I go on?

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your so on the money on this , and this is the paper that tries to hack phones and then tell us we did not do it gov

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

If it wasn't for all this brain washing. I'd be seen on the same wavelength as the rest. Now, you can say what you want about me - but, i thought i'd share what's been happening lately.

Pops, I am sorry to hear this but not entirely surprised.

The story, when I heard it this morning, about Palmira Silva didn't make me think about radical Muslims. I thought about a poor woman in the wrong place at the wrong time when someone with severe mental health problems went mad with a knife. He apparently killed a cat before killing her. Now, I am sure someone will find a way of telling me that cats are anti-Islamic but put the two things together and this is not about terrorists.

I think there was a grandmother beheaded in China by her grandson last year. I'm fairly certain that Muslim extremists weren't involved there either.

It's a horrible thing that has happened but jumping to alarmist headlines helps no one.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

If it wasn't for all this brain washing. I'd be seen on the same wavelength as the rest. Now, you can say what you want about me - but, i thought i'd share what's been happening lately.

Pops, I am sorry to hear this but not entirely surprised.

I think there was a grandmother beheaded in China by her grandson last year. I'm fairly certain that Muslim extremists weren't involved there either.

It's a horrible thing that has happened but jumping to alarmist headlines helps no one.

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over a year ago

"What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

If it wasn't for all this brain washing. I'd be seen on the same wavelength as the rest. Now, you can say what you want about me - but, i thought i'd share what's been happening lately.

Report abusive messages. Hugs xxxx

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over a year ago

"Do we really have much confidence in Britain's security services, hundreds of Iraqis' Iranians, Afghans are gathered at Calais on a daily basis and many get into the country, and this is only one route, the government report we have 1000;s of illegals in this country and they don't know where they are or the activities they are doing, but it's been that way for a very long time, personally I'm not to worried if it happens it does whether I worry or not"
Everyone seems to love Comeing here how many nationalities I Wonder live here now a damn site more

Than ever before probably afghan for

Next prime minister alongside boris ..

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over a year ago

"The reality? Today, tomorrow,next week, anywhere anytime , a terrorist attack can occur, from all sorts of groups,

I could hire a white van, fill it with 2 tons of rubble and drive it into a on coming train, killing a dozen people injuring many more, maybe lose two men doing it, cost? Less than 300 pounds

Terrorism is easy to do, its a miracle that more haven't occurred, and shows how well are anti terror guys are (I hope to join),

'Take' Greenland or Iceland?

........ I'm sorry but you started by talking against terrorism & then you're promoting it!!

Confused.com

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"if britian stayed out of peoples business half way across the world then they would be ok. notice how theres never terror attacks in places that dont try play world police

Spain?

Bali ?

Guess the attacks on Germany, Netherlands, France, India, Pakistan, (I'm sure I could think of others) dont count. "

Yes, you beat me too it.

The common myth that Britain is only a target because we are best friends with the Americans.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"What a load of bollocks. You see how BBC News posted the news on their website?

Using the word beheaded and then pictures of a couple of muslim women standing. Now. You tell me. Are they not putting ideas in people's head?

If it wasn't for all this brain washing. I'd be seen on the same wavelength as the rest. Now, you can say what you want about me - but, i thought i'd share what's been happening lately.

agree with what you say and on the abuse your getting it just shows that some racists are ignorant fuckwits..

report them Pop..

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