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"Or so at least two newspapers exclaim today. But despise all the rhetoric about what should be done ,and given the many scandals over our farcical immigration control does it fill you with confidence. Not me !!" I am not really sure why people are making a fuss about this now, you only have to keep your eyes and ears open on the streets of our country to know this has been a threat for years. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. " | |||
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"Saw something about a law which can strip any jihadists of their citizenship. I fully support this, anyone who goes off to fight so called jihad with these barbarians is welcome to stay there " I support it too, but is it true.We hear so often from those with their hands on the levers of power what should and what will happen but it often fails to materialise ? | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. " | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. " There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where Black Men cannot walk down in civilian clothes, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a Black Bastard and had a group of youths harrass me in the street whilst in in a suit and tie (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where Black Men are treated with suspicion when being served in shops when in civilian clothes. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. We British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live....that said we British must understand that we are a very diverse society and we do a lot of different things in a lot of different ways which reflect a lot of background cultures in our society that are now British. We are either tolerant and inclusive or we are not! Politicians already know that extremism has existed in this country for as long as can be remembered, it's simply about whose on the recieving end and how we choose to deal with it. The Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular are no more to blame for the reporters death than you or me. Education and de-radicalisation of the young in our society is everyones job, before its too late. | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. " They must have bloody good eyesight | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. They must have bloody good eyesight" lol what i was meant too say was there watching there familys aswell. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. "This | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where Black Men cannot walk down in civilian clothes, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a Black Bastard and had a group of youths harrass me in the street whilst in in a suit and tie (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where Black Men are treated with suspicion when being served in shops when in civilian clothes. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. We British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live....that said we British must understand that we are a very diverse society and we do a lot of different things in a lot of different ways which reflect a lot of background cultures in our society that are now British. We are either tolerant and inclusive or we are not! Politicians already know that extremism has existed in this country for as long as can be remembered, it's simply about whose on the recieving end and how we choose to deal with it. The Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular are no more to blame for the reporters death than you or me. Education and de-radicalisation of the young in our society is everyones job, before its too late." | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too " Could not of put it better Myself Perhaps we ought to adapt the Australian government stance ? | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. " Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. " | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later." And lets not forget the 72 virgins that await them for their martyrdom ? | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where Black Men cannot walk down in civilian clothes, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a Black Bastard and had a group of youths harrass me in the street whilst in in a suit and tie (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where Black Men are treated with suspicion when being served in shops when in civilian clothes. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. We British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live....that said we British must understand that we are a very diverse society and we do a lot of different things in a lot of different ways which reflect a lot of background cultures in our society that are now British. We are either tolerant and inclusive or we are not! Politicians already know that extremism has existed in this country for as long as can be remembered, it's simply about whose on the recieving end and how we choose to deal with it. The Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular are no more to blame for the reporters death than you or me. Education and de-radicalisation of the young in our society is everyones job, before its too late." | |||
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"How come so many go to there restaurants eat there takeaways support Gasa {not the d*unk}. I work in Bradford, I know what happens to your food."
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"How come so many go to there restaurants eat there takeaways support Gasa {not the d*unk}. I work in Bradford, I know what happens to your food." I like their food, I like them and I like their family values... | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later. And lets not forget the 72 virgins that await them for their martyrdom ?" Due to cutbacks and international recession, it's been cut to 2 virgins and a goat  | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. ". | |||
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"How come so many go to there restaurants eat there takeaways support Gasa {not the d*unk}. I work in Bradford, I know what happens to your food." You cannot honestly expect anyone to take your comment seriously | |||
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"How come so many go to there restaurants eat there takeaways support Gasa {not the d*unk}. I work in Bradford, I know what happens to your food." Did I catch you on Question Time recently ? | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later. And lets not forget the 72 virgins that await them for their martyrdom ? Due to cutbacks and international recession, it's been cut to 2 virgins and a goat "Martyrdom for virgins! I think virgins are overated, give me someone who's had a few cocks and knows what she's doing any day | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later. And lets not forget the 72 virgins that await them for their martyrdom ? Due to cutbacks and international recession, it's been cut to 2 virgins and a goat
Martyrdom for virgins!
I think virgins are overated, give me someone who's had a few cocks and knows what she's doing any day"But that would make the women more knowledgeable than the men, and being more knowledgeable than a man is, I believe, a stoning offence. I mean, honestly, who would want to get stoned and fucked? | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too Could not of put it better Myself Perhaps we ought to adapt the Australian government stance ? " Too right, we could learn a lot from the way Australia do things, following their immigration system would be a damn good start! ....and if someone does'nt wish to sell alcohol at a check out till because of their religious beliefs, then they really should not be working in that shop, or they should find an alternative form of employment! | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later. And lets not forget the 72 virgins that await them for their martyrdom ? Due to cutbacks and international recession, it's been cut to 2 virgins and a goat
Martyrdom for virgins!
I think virgins are overated, give me someone who's had a few cocks and knows what she's doing any day
But that would make the women more knowledgeable than the men, and being more knowledgeable than a man is, I believe, a stoning offence. I mean, honestly, who would want to get stoned and fucked? "As a matter of fact I did...last night.  | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later. And lets not forget the 72 virgins that await them for their martyrdom ? Due to cutbacks and international recession, it's been cut to 2 virgins and a goat
Martyrdom for virgins!
I think virgins are overated, give me someone who's had a few cocks and knows what she's doing any day
But that would make the women more knowledgeable than the men, and being more knowledgeable than a man is, I believe, a stoning offence. I mean, honestly, who would want to get stoned and fucked?
As a matter of fact I did...last night.
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later. And lets not forget the 72 virgins that await them for their martyrdom ? Due to cutbacks and international recession, it's been cut to 2 virgins and a goat
Martyrdom for virgins!
I think virgins are overated, give me someone who's had a few cocks and knows what she's doing any day
But that would make the women more knowledgeable than the men, and being more knowledgeable than a man is, I believe, a stoning offence. I mean, honestly, who would want to get stoned and fucked?
As a matter of fact I did...last night.
Shock, horror!! Good girl
Maybe if these jihadists were allowed by their faith to have a wank and a J, they wouldn't be so uptight "Oh I'm sure they wank themselves to infinity...they are male...surely they don't ignore an erection? | |||
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"How come so many go to there restaurants eat there takeaways support Gasa {not the d*unk}. I work in Bradford, I know what happens to your food." Who is their? 
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where women cannot walk down in nice new shoes, not for fear of offending people... but in case some twat has gobbed out chewing gum or discarded half a kebab drenched in chilli sauce!!! I myself was branded a "mumble mumble bitch" and had a group of youths look at me in the street because I told them to stoop spitting (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity... though they were all born locally).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British teenagers, regardless of their colour, cannot get served in shops when in a hoodie. There are shops where white adult customers can, and have, refused to pay for the bottle they have stuffed in their jacket whilst their mate spits at the shop owner and calls them a 'Pakkie bastard'. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live... preferably Croydon. " Going to live in Croydon is a bit harsh!  | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later. And lets not forget the 72 virgins that await them for their martyrdom ? Due to cutbacks and international recession, it's been cut to 2 virgins and a goat
Martyrdom for virgins!
I think virgins are overated, give me someone who's had a few cocks and knows what she's doing any day
But that would make the women more knowledgeable than the men, and being more knowledgeable than a man is, I believe, a stoning offence. I mean, honestly, who would want to get stoned and fucked?
As a matter of fact I did...last night.
Shock, horror!! Good girl
Maybe if these jihadists were allowed by their faith to have a wank and a J, they wouldn't be so uptight
Oh I'm sure they wank themselves to infinity...they are male...surely they don't ignore an erection?"I'm fairly sure that wanking is forbidden to muslims, but not sure how much they adhere to it. Some more than others, probably. | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later. And lets not forget the 72 virgins that await them for their martyrdom ? Due to cutbacks and international recession, it's been cut to 2 virgins and a goat
Martyrdom for virgins!
I think virgins are overated, give me someone who's had a few cocks and knows what she's doing any day
But that would make the women more knowledgeable than the men, and being more knowledgeable than a man is, I believe, a stoning offence. I mean, honestly, who would want to get stoned and fucked?
As a matter of fact I did...last night.
Shock, horror!! Good girl
Maybe if these jihadists were allowed by their faith to have a wank and a J, they wouldn't be so uptight
Oh I'm sure they wank themselves to infinity...they are male...surely they don't ignore an erection?
I'm fairly sure that wanking is forbidden to muslims, but not sure how much they adhere to it. Some more than others, probably."Ah okay...they got cctv in their houses linked up to jihad head office? | |||
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"We are having it here in ireland police are watching 40 irsh muslims who have gone to fight in syria. Best of luck to the 40 - I hope that their wish to gain entry into paradise is granted sooner rather than later. And lets not forget the 72 virgins that await them for their martyrdom ? Due to cutbacks and international recession, it's been cut to 2 virgins and a goat
Martyrdom for virgins!
I think virgins are overated, give me someone who's had a few cocks and knows what she's doing any day
But that would make the women more knowledgeable than the men, and being more knowledgeable than a man is, I believe, a stoning offence. I mean, honestly, who would want to get stoned and fucked?
As a matter of fact I did...last night.
Shock, horror!! Good girl
Maybe if these jihadists were allowed by their faith to have a wank and a J, they wouldn't be so uptight
Oh I'm sure they wank themselves to infinity...they are male...surely they don't ignore an erection?
I'm fairly sure that wanking is forbidden to muslims, but not sure how much they adhere to it. Some more than others, probably.
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Isn't it wrong to tar all concerned over this issue with the same brush also many know its fundamentalists not broad stream Muslims?"well you would hope so , but bet many law abiding, decent living Muslims would beg to differ re that .... | |||
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Isn't it wrong to tar all concerned over this issue with the same brush also many know its fundamentalists not broad stream Muslims? well you would hope so , but bet many law abiding, decent living Muslims would beg to differ re that ...."And I would wager a lot would think differently I wouldn't think all muslims would tar concerned people assuming they thought all Muslims were fundamentalists. I just think its a little ironic you castigating people for doing exactly what you have done on this thread thats all.  | |||
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"I may be off the mark I don't know but how I see it is We opened our doors welcomed these people of different religion into our country permitted them to build their places of worship and the majority were happy with this to live along side us. They a few decided to throw it back in our faces by telling us how we have to live and worship! Is this not the ultimate in kicking us in the teeth for our hospitality?? But the majority don't and a large number were born here so its their country too. There are fundamental Christians too you know who have similar _iews with Christianity the reality is these groups are a very small minority. "I did say different religions wasn't narrowing it down and I also did say majority live here alongside everyone happily | |||
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Isn't it wrong to tar all concerned over this issue with the same brush also many know its fundamentalists not broad stream Muslims? well you would hope so , but bet many law abiding, decent living Muslims would beg to differ re that ....
And I would wager a lot would think differently I wouldn't think all muslims would tar concerned people assuming they thought all Muslims were fundamentalists. I just think its a little ironic you castigating people for doing exactly what you have done on this thread thats all. "clearly You and I live in different Worlds. | |||
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Isn't it wrong to tar all concerned over this issue with the same brush also many know its fundamentalists not broad stream Muslims? well you would hope so , but bet many law abiding, decent living Muslims would beg to differ re that ....
And I would wager a lot would think differently I wouldn't think all muslims would tar concerned people assuming they thought all Muslims were fundamentalists. I just think its a little ironic you castigating people for doing exactly what you have done on this thread thats all. clearly You and I live in different Worlds."Clearly we do as I have an open mind and don't tar everyone with the same brush it wouldn't harm to open your mind a little. | |||
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"Saw this from a friend so I've borrowed it, made me laugh: London cab driver's answer to a request from a Muslim to turn off the radio. (You just got to love the Brits.) A devout Arab Muslim entered a black cab in London. He curtly asked the cabbie to turn off the radio because as decreed by his religious teaching, he must not listen to music because in the time of the prophet there was no music, esp ecially Western music which is the music of the infidel. The cab driver politely switched off the radio, stopped the cab and opened the door. The Arab Muslim asked him, "What are you doing?" The cabbie answered, "In the time of the prophet there were no taxis, so piss off and wait for a camel.."" | |||
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"Saw this from a friend so I've borrowed it, made me laugh: London cab driver's answer to a request from a Muslim to turn off the radio. (You just got to love the Brits.) A devout Arab Muslim entered a black cab in London. He curtly asked the cabbie to turn off the radio because as decreed by his religious teaching, he must not listen to music because in the time of the prophet there was no music, esp ecially Western music which is the music of the infidel. The cab driver politely switched off the radio, stopped the cab and opened the door. The Arab Muslim asked him, "What are you doing?" The cabbie answered, "In the time of the prophet there were no taxis, so piss off and wait for a camel.."" | |||
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"Saw this from a friend so I've borrowed it, made me laugh: London cab driver's answer to a request from a Muslim to turn off the radio. (You just got to love the Brits.) A devout Arab Muslim entered a black cab in London. He curtly asked the cabbie to turn off the radio because as decreed by his religious teaching, he must not listen to music because in the time of the prophet there was no music, esp ecially Western music which is the music of the infidel. The cab driver politely switched off the radio, stopped the cab and opened the door. The Arab Muslim asked him, "What are you doing?" The cabbie answered, "In the time of the prophet there were no taxis, so piss off and wait for a camel.."" | |||
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"Saw this from a friend so I've borrowed it, made me laugh: London cab driver's answer to a request from a Muslim to turn off the radio. (You just got to love the Brits.) A devout Arab Muslim entered a black cab in London. He curtly asked the cabbie to turn off the radio because as decreed by his religious teaching, he must not listen to music because in the time of the prophet there was no music, esp ecially Western music which is the music of the infidel. The cab driver politely switched off the radio, stopped the cab and opened the door. The Arab Muslim asked him, "What are you doing?" The cabbie answered, "In the time of the prophet there were no taxis, so piss off and wait for a camel.."" I find these jokes in the style of 70's old style racism...jaded and completely unfunny. | |||
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Isn't it wrong to tar all concerned over this issue with the same brush also many know its fundamentalists not broad stream Muslims? well you would hope so , but bet many law abiding, decent living Muslims would beg to differ re that ....
And I would wager a lot would think differently I wouldn't think all muslims would tar concerned people assuming they thought all Muslims were fundamentalists. I just think its a little ironic you castigating people for doing exactly what you have done on this thread thats all. clearly You and I live in different Worlds.
Clearly we do as I have an open mind and don't tar everyone with the same brush it wouldn't harm to open your mind a little. "lmfao! Yeap i know fuck all at all! | |||
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"Saw this from a friend so I've borrowed it, made me laugh: London cab driver's answer to a request from a Muslim to turn off the radio. (You just got to love the Brits.) A devout Arab Muslim entered a black cab in London. He curtly asked the cabbie to turn off the radio because as decreed by his religious teaching, he must not listen to music because in the time of the prophet there was no music, esp ecially Western music which is the music of the infidel. The cab driver politely switched off the radio, stopped the cab and opened the door. The Arab Muslim asked him, "What are you doing?" The cabbie answered, "In the time of the prophet there were no taxis, so piss off and wait for a camel.."" I'm assuming you know this is a joke. I got told this one while on the knowledge eighteen or so years ago. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. "I have never had a practising muslim refuse to sell me alcohol. I live in an area of London where there are a high percentage of Muslims and I have never, ever experienced any aggro or any misunderstandings. I smile and laugh and talk and greet...most people have a heart and soul and just want to get on with their lives! | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. "
It is odd that the people jumping on the politically correct fence have refused to answer the question if they would complain to the manager in a supermarket if a muslim checkout worker refused to sell them alcohol at the till? | |||
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"Saw this from a friend so I've borrowed it, made me laugh: London cab driver's answer to a request from a Muslim to turn off the radio. (You just got to love the Brits.) A devout Arab Muslim entered a black cab in London. He curtly asked the cabbie to turn off the radio because as decreed by his religious teaching, he must not listen to music because in the time of the prophet there was no music, esp ecially Western music which is the music of the infidel. The cab driver politely switched off the radio, stopped the cab and opened the door. The Arab Muslim asked him, "What are you doing?" The cabbie answered, "In the time of the prophet there were no taxis, so piss off and wait for a camel.." I find these jokes in the style of 70's old style racism...jaded and completely unfunny." I thought it was hilarious. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold.
It is odd that the people jumping on the politically correct fence have refused to answer the question if they would complain to the manager in a supermarket if a muslim checkout worker refused to sell them alcohol at the till?"If a representative of a supermarket chain (ie a cashier) refused to take my money for a product, then I would assume that they, on behalf of their company, are giving me the product for free. If I was stopped by security for doing this, I would complain very loudly in front of the member of staff responsible for encouraging me to steal. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold.
I have never had a practising muslim refuse to sell me alcohol. I live in an area of London where there are a high percentage of Muslims and I have never, ever experienced any aggro or any misunderstandings.
I smile and laugh and talk and greet...most people have a heart and soul and just want to get on with their lives!"You must have missed the newspaper article then where this did happen to someone who was trying to buy alcohol in a supermarket. | |||
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It is odd that the people jumping on the politically correct fence have refused to answer the question if they would complain to the manager in a supermarket if a muslim checkout worker refused to sell them alcohol at the till?"I wouldn't complain to the manager. I'm assuming another checkout person would be along shortly to serve me. Once I had been made aware of such policy I would pay more attention as to which queue I was joining next time I visited the shop. | |||
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So the muslim lady who refused to sell alcohol at the check out till she was on, (in a supermarket which sells alcohol) because of her religious beliefs should not be in for any criticism then? Would you have complained to the manager in that supermarket if it was you who was trying to buy the bottle of wine or the cans of Lager? "Would you be complaining if it was a white Christian woman who refused to sell it on religious grounds? A lot of Christians don't believe in alcohol. Whilst some would complain, a good many more would nod and say 'good for you for taking a stand and upholding your beliefs' I'm American. I don't hate muslims. I don't hate anyone. This thread, and a few if the attitudes displayed, make me very very sad, indeed. | |||
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So the muslim lady who refused to sell alcohol at the check out till she was on, (in a supermarket which sells alcohol) because of her religious beliefs should not be in for any criticism then? Would you have complained to the manager in that supermarket if it was you who was trying to buy the bottle of wine or the cans of Lager?
Would you be complaining if it was a white Christian woman who refused to sell it on religious grounds? A lot of Christians don't believe in alcohol. Whilst some would complain, a good many more would nod and say 'good for you for taking a stand and upholding your beliefs'
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So the muslim lady who refused to sell alcohol at the check out till she was on, (in a supermarket which sells alcohol) because of her religious beliefs should not be in for any criticism then? Would you have complained to the manager in that supermarket if it was you who was trying to buy the bottle of wine or the cans of Lager?
Would you be complaining if it was a white Christian woman who refused to sell it on religious grounds? A lot of Christians don't believe in alcohol. Whilst some would complain, a good many more would nod and say 'good for you for taking a stand and upholding your beliefs'
I'm American. I don't hate muslims. I don't hate anyone. This thread, and a few if the attitudes displayed, make me very very sad, indeed. "Your position is a red herring, as its not a christian belief to abstain from alcohol, Jesus himself drank wine and the blood of christ in many christian rituals is represented by wine. I'm not aware of any cases of any other religion refusing to sell items in a shop on religious grounds other than 2 muslims in 2 different shops that refused to sell alcohol to custmers based on their religious beliefs. The question has to be asked.....what on earth are they doing working in those positions in the 1st place if that is their personal stance? If it did happen to me from somone of another faith then yes i would still complain to the manager. | |||
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Isn't it wrong to tar all concerned over this issue with the same brush also many know its fundamentalists not broad stream Muslims? well you would hope so , but bet many law abiding, decent living Muslims would beg to differ re that ....
And I would wager a lot would think differently I wouldn't think all muslims would tar concerned people assuming they thought all Muslims were fundamentalists. I just think its a little ironic you castigating people for doing exactly what you have done on this thread thats all. clearly You and I live in different Worlds.
Clearly we do as I have an open mind and don't tar everyone with the same brush it wouldn't harm to open your mind a little. lmfao! Yeap i know fuck all at all! "Thats not what I said though I said open your mind that would start with not making blanket assumptions while telling others not to its too faced nothing to do with not knowing fuck all. Try opening your mind understanding all points of _iew it would be a revelation to you. | |||
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It is odd that the people jumping on the politically correct fence have refused to answer the question if they would complain to the manager in a supermarket if a muslim checkout worker refused to sell them alcohol at the till?
I wouldn't complain to the manager. I'm assuming another checkout person would be along shortly to serve me. Once I had been made aware of such policy I would pay more attention as to which queue I was joining next time I visited the shop. "When going into somewhere like Tesco or ASDA you should not have to do that as a customer. Its perfectly reasonable to expect to buy anything in that shop without being questioned at the check out till or told by the cashier when you get there "I'm sorry i can't serve you that because of my religious beliefs". These people are taking the piss, and its not acceptable. If that is their religious belief then they should go find an alternative form of employment. | |||
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So the muslim lady who refused to sell alcohol at the check out till she was on, (in a supermarket which sells alcohol) because of her religious beliefs should not be in for any criticism then? Would you have complained to the manager in that supermarket if it was you who was trying to buy the bottle of wine or the cans of Lager?
Would you be complaining if it was a white Christian woman who refused to sell it on religious grounds? A lot of Christians don't believe in alcohol. Whilst some would complain, a good many more would nod and say 'good for you for taking a stand and upholding your beliefs'
I'm American. I don't hate muslims. I don't hate anyone. This thread, and a few if the attitudes displayed, make me very very sad, indeed.
Your position is a red herring, as its not a christian belief to abstain from alcohol, Jesus himself drank wine and the blood of christ in many christian rituals is represented by wine. I'm not aware of any cases of any other religion refusing to sell items in a shop on religious grounds other than 2 muslims in 2 different shops that refused to sell alcohol to custmers based on their religious beliefs.
The question has to be asked.....what on earth are they doing working in those positions in the 1st place if that is their personal stance?
If it did happen to me from somone of another faith then yes i would still complain to the manager."It's not a red herring at all, actually. I know members of several Christian churches where alcohol is frowned upon and against the beliefs of that church. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. If u bomb n invade another countries, India Palestine Eygpt Iraq Libya r u so naive as to think there would be no consequences. Let the usa get on with their double standards war. We dint need to ne involved. Im Muslim.British and know many ex force personnel through my job. Many I call friend. ." To be fair the British just followed the Americans into Iraq and Libya and even so with the rest does that really warrant butchering a journalist on camera? | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold.
It is odd that the people jumping on the politically correct fence have refused to answer the question if they would complain to the manager in a supermarket if a muslim checkout worker refused to sell them alcohol at the till?"I would go to another till Simple... but more to the point I don't actually believe all i read in papers! The "them and us" attitude is far from adult like ... Why is it deemed to be on a "PC fence " by simply _xpressing that everyone should be given the same respect as we ourselves expect, disregarding, race, religion, sex or sexual orientation ( pointed out in my original postings) ? And that there is ignorance,and hate etc still , in 2014 . Im my opinion | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold.
It is odd that the people jumping on the politically correct fence have refused to answer the question if they would complain to the manager in a supermarket if a muslim checkout worker refused to sell them alcohol at the till?
I wouldn't complain to the manager. I'm assuming another checkout person would be along shortly to serve me. Once I had been made aware of such policy I would pay more attention as to which queue I was joining next time I visited the shop.
When going into somewhere like Tesco or ASDA you should not have to do that as a customer. Its perfectly reasonable to expect to buy anything in that shop without being questioned at the check out till or told by the cashier when you get there "I'm sorry i can't serve you that because of my religious beliefs".
These people are taking the piss, and its not acceptable. If that is their religious belief then they should go find an alternative form of employment. "so from one story from one of the daily comics ... Now its assumed this is happening all over the uk? No it is NOT .... At all | |||
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" Your position is a red herring, as its not a christian belief to abstain from alcohol, Jesus himself drank wine and the blood of christ in many christian rituals is represented by wine. I'm not aware of any cases of any other religion refusing to sell items in a shop on religious grounds other than 2 muslims in 2 different shops that refused to sell alcohol to custmers based on their religious beliefs. The question has to be asked.....what on earth are they doing working in those positions in the 1st place if that is their personal stance? If it did happen to me from somone of another faith then yes i would still complain to the manager. A catholic chemist has refused to sell the morning after pill to a woman on religous grounds. A Christian baker refused to bake a cake for a homesexual on religous grounds. A Christian B&B owner refused to sell a room for the night to a homosexual couple on religous grounds. " The christian B and B owners were actually the owners of that business so its perfectly acceptable in that case for them to do what they did and make their own company policy. Again it would be perfectly acceptable if they were Muslim B and B owners. However Tescos, ASDA and Marks and Spencer i think the cases were where muslims refused to sell alcohol on religious beliefs, it is not company policy to refuse alcohol to customers so the check out till assistant should have served them no questions asked. Same goes for the Baker and the Chemist you highlighted if they were working for a big chain like Lloyds or Boots they should serve the customer no questions, unless it was a privately owned baker or chemist then yes they can make their own policy on who they serve and what they serve. | |||
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" When going into somewhere like Tesco or ASDA you should not have to do that as a customer. Its perfectly reasonable to expect to buy anything in that shop without being questioned at the check out till or told by the cashier when you get there "I'm sorry i can't serve you that because of my religious beliefs". These people are taking the piss, and its not acceptable. If that is their religious belief then they should go find an alternative form of employment. so from one story from one of the daily comics ... Now its assumed this is happening all over the uk? No it is NOT .... At all "I think it happened once in M&S. They apologised and it was dealt with. | |||
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" Your position is a red herring, as its not a christian belief to abstain from alcohol, Jesus himself drank wine and the blood of christ in many christian rituals is represented by wine. I'm not aware of any cases of any other religion refusing to sell items in a shop on religious grounds other than 2 muslims in 2 different shops that refused to sell alcohol to custmers based on their religious beliefs. The question has to be asked.....what on earth are they doing working in those positions in the 1st place if that is their personal stance? If it did happen to me from somone of another faith then yes i would still complain to the manager. A catholic chemist has refused to sell the morning after pill to a woman on religous grounds. A Christian baker refused to bake a cake for a homesexual on religous grounds. A Christian B&B owner refused to sell a room for the night to a homosexual couple on religous grounds. The christian B and B owners were actually the owners of that business so its perfectly acceptable in that case for them to do what they did and make their own company policy. Again it would be perfectly acceptable if they were Muslim B and B owners. However Tescos, ASDA and Marks and Spencer i think the cases were where muslims refused to sell alcohol on religious beliefs, it is not company policy to refuse alcohol to customers so the check out till assistant should have served them no questions asked. Same goes for the Baker and the Chemist you highlighted if they were working for a big chain like Lloyds or Boots they should serve the customer no questions, unless it was a privately owned baker or chemist then yes they can make their own policy on who they serve and what they serve. " The catholic was working in lloyds pharmacy. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. If u bomb n invade another countries, India Palestine Eygpt Iraq Libya r u so naive as to think there would be no consequences. Let the usa get on with their double standards war. We dint need to ne involved. Im Muslim.British and know many ex force personnel through my job. Many I call friend. ." Got news for you, the British military don't decide who they go to war with, it is the politicians in westminster. If you want someone to blame then blame them, not our armed services. The military are just doing their jobs, and following orders, its the politicians in westminster who call the shots. | |||
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"'The muslim' "The Black person" "The Woman" The Tranny" The list is endless ........ Some good , some bad as in all sections of any catatagory in our society ... Such a shame that , prejudice, ignorance, and hate , still exsists in 2014... Have we progressed? Clearly not .... Is it wrong to tar all bad with the same brush? Yes it is.... Will it ever change? Lets live in hope! .........
Isn't it wrong to tar all concerned over this issue with the same brush also many know its fundamentalists not broad stream Muslims? well you would hope so , but bet many law abiding, decent living Muslims would beg to differ re that ....
And I would wager a lot would think differently I wouldn't think all muslims would tar concerned people assuming they thought all Muslims were fundamentalists. I just think its a little ironic you castigating people for doing exactly what you have done on this thread thats all. clearly You and I live in different Worlds.
Clearly we do as I have an open mind and don't tar everyone with the same brush it wouldn't harm to open your mind a little. lmfao! Yeap i know fuck all at all!
Thats not what I said though I said open your mind that would start with not making blanket assumptions while telling others not to its too faced nothing to do with not knowing fuck all. Try opening your mind understanding all points of _iew it would be a revelation to you. "oh It's open fully! Fully! | |||
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"I may be off the mark I don't know but how I see it is We opened our doors welcomed these people of different religion into our country permitted them to build their places of worship and the majority were happy with this to live along side us. They a few decided to throw it back in our faces by telling us how we have to live and worship! Is this not the ultimate in kicking us in the teeth for our hospitality?? " would that be the same people whose relatives fought fascism in ww2, who helped to defeat the axis powers and live in a democracy rather than under oppression which also enables us the free speech we have today..? | |||
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"In rome do as the Romans do!!! We go over seas the majority live within the laws and beliefs of that country. Do some religions in the uk also do that???. The gentleman who posted here from the brum area who said we brought it on ourselfs etc. I find your comments rude and insulting, you are allowed to practise the religion you choose and do the job you want thanks to the British forces of ww1 and ww2. They fought to give us what we have now!!!. Extremeists such as Isis have no place in this society, the blatant and vile murder of the America chap proved that and if you condone the behaviour of such militants then you need your head testing. Anyone that has a British citizenship or passport that goes to fight for Isis or any other group such as them should face the firmest laws or not be allowed to come back to the uk. If they have such strong feeling to fight for the country let them take the whole family and live there. " No one in their right mind would condone such an atrocity. With respect however, you and many more posters need to understand that there are no simple solutions to very complex issues. Killing everyone associated with the perceived problem is an archaic attitude but is one that has existed in the Middle East for thousands of years. I don't agree with your simplistic _iew but by the same token, I do not agree with an attitude of such extreme tolerance that our very liberty is put at risk. The reality is that Islamic extremism is no different to any other kind of religious extremism in as much as those extremists want to enforce their version of their religion on the rest of the world. It is expansionist by its very nature and is no different aside from 2,000 years, from the Crusades. One very fortunate thing for the West is that in the hotbed of extreme Middle East politics there are two versions of this religion who equally despise each other and the geography means that there will be a day of reckoning within that religion long before there is a day of reckoning with everyone else. Having said all of this... I would not want to be a politician in any western country and have to make decisions about military action in the Middle East. There are no right responses and the consequences of all decisions could prove very costly... In blood. | |||
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"In rome do as the Romans do!!! We go over seas the majority live within the laws and beliefs of that country. Do some religions in the uk also do that???. The gentleman who posted here from the brum area who said we brought it on ourselfs etc. I find your comments rude and insulting, you are allowed to practise the religion you choose and do the job you want thanks to the British forces of ww1 and ww2. They fought to give us what we have now!!!. Extremeists such as Isis have no place in this society, the blatant and vile murder of the America chap proved that and if you condone the behaviour of such militants then you need your head testing. Anyone that has a British citizenship or passport that goes to fight for Isis or any other group such as them should face the firmest laws or not be allowed to come back to the uk. If they have such strong feeling to fight for the country let them take the whole family and live there. " We kind of don't though you only have to go to Benidorm to see the 'English Pub' and all the other things we don't do to blend in or even India with what the British did when we went there last century. Extremists well they exist all over the place be it Isis, the KKK or even our own BMP the problem is some people intent on power will migrate to extremist groups to try and get it. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. If u bomb n invade another countries, India Palestine Eygpt Iraq Libya r u so naive as to think there would be no consequences. Let the usa get on with their double standards war. We dint need to ne involved. Im Muslim.British and know many ex force personnel through my job. Many I call friend. ." | |||
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" Your position is a red herring, as its not a christian belief to abstain from alcohol, Jesus himself drank wine and the blood of christ in many christian rituals is represented by wine. I'm not aware of any cases of any other religion refusing to sell items in a shop on religious grounds other than 2 muslims in 2 different shops that refused to sell alcohol to custmers based on their religious beliefs. The question has to be asked.....what on earth are they doing working in those positions in the 1st place if that is their personal stance? If it did happen to me from somone of another faith then yes i would still complain to the manager. A catholic chemist has refused to sell the morning after pill to a woman on religous grounds. A Christian baker refused to bake a cake for a homesexual on religous grounds. A Christian B&B owner refused to sell a room for the night to a homosexual couple on religous grounds. " Precisely. And at least two out of the three are being prosecuted, and persecuted, for doing so. So WTF weren't Tesco's? | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where women cannot walk down in nice new shoes, not for fear of offending people... but in case some twat has gobbed out chewing gum or discarded half a kebab drenched in chilli sauce!!! I myself was branded a "mumble mumble bitch" and had a group of youths look at me in the street because I told them to stoop spitting (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity... though they were all born locally).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British teenagers, regardless of their colour, cannot get served in shops when in a hoodie. There are shops where white adult customers can, and have, refused to pay for the bottle they have stuffed in their jacket whilst their mate spits at the shop owner and calls them a 'Pakkie bastard'. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live... preferably Croydon. " | |||
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" Your position is a red herring, as its not a christian belief to abstain from alcohol, Jesus himself drank wine and the blood of christ in many christian rituals is represented by wine. I'm not aware of any cases of any other religion refusing to sell items in a shop on religious grounds other than 2 muslims in 2 different shops that refused to sell alcohol to custmers based on their religious beliefs. The question has to be asked.....what on earth are they doing working in those positions in the 1st place if that is their personal stance? If it did happen to me from somone of another faith then yes i would still complain to the manager. A catholic chemist has refused to sell the morning after pill to a woman on religous grounds. A Christian baker refused to bake a cake for a homesexual on religous grounds. A Christian B&B owner refused to sell a room for the night to a homosexual couple on religous grounds. Precisely. And at least two out of the three are being prosecuted, and persecuted, for doing so. So WTF weren't Tesco's? " Because the person got their alcohol perhaps. | |||
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" Your position is a red herring, as its not a christian belief to abstain from alcohol, Jesus himself drank wine and the blood of christ in many christian rituals is represented by wine. I'm not aware of any cases of any other religion refusing to sell items in a shop on religious grounds other than 2 muslims in 2 different shops that refused to sell alcohol to custmers based on their religious beliefs. The question has to be asked.....what on earth are they doing working in those positions in the 1st place if that is their personal stance? If it did happen to me from somone of another faith then yes i would still complain to the manager. A catholic chemist has refused to sell the morning after pill to a woman on religous grounds. A Christian baker refused to bake a cake for a homesexual on religous grounds. A Christian B&B owner refused to sell a room for the night to a homosexual couple on religous grounds. Precisely. And at least two out of the three are being prosecuted, and persecuted, for doing so. So WTF weren't Tesco's? Because the person got their alcohol perhaps. " Other cakes, guest/boarding houses are available. | |||
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" I'm not an Historian but wasn't Enoch Powell considered to be a very intelligent, intellectual man? He was! He had some strange _iews too mind!" Possibly, in and amongst. People probably said that about such as Copernicus and Einstein in their day too. Pope to Leonardo : "WTF is a helicopter" | |||
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" I'm not an Historian but wasn't Enoch Powell considered to be a very intelligent, intellectual man? He was! He had some strange _iews too mind! Possibly, in and amongst. People probably said that about such as Copernicus and Einstein in their day too. Pope to Leonardo : "WTF is a helicopter" " It was a different era then education was different and attitudes however deportation wasn't or isn't the answer. Just imaging if the Spanish got fed up of the London mob in Marbella and shipped them back here it would be a right mess down Essex way. | |||
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" Your position is a red herring, as its not a christian belief to abstain from alcohol, Jesus himself drank wine and the blood of christ in many christian rituals is represented by wine. I'm not aware of any cases of any other religion refusing to sell items in a shop on religious grounds other than 2 muslims in 2 different shops that refused to sell alcohol to custmers based on their religious beliefs. The question has to be asked.....what on earth are they doing working in those positions in the 1st place if that is their personal stance? If it did happen to me from somone of another faith then yes i would still complain to the manager. A catholic chemist has refused to sell the morning after pill to a woman on religous grounds. A Christian baker refused to bake a cake for a homesexual on religous grounds. A Christian B&B owner refused to sell a room for the night to a homosexual couple on religous grounds. Precisely. And at least two out of the three are being prosecuted, and persecuted, for doing so. So WTF weren't Tesco's? Because the person got their alcohol perhaps. Other cakes, guest/boarding houses are available. " But I was answering the question "I'm not aware of any cases of any other religion refusing to sell items in a shop on religious grounds other than 2 muslims in 2 different shops that refused to sell alcohol to custmers based on their religious beliefs. " I gave three examples of this happening just off the top of my head. I'm sure there is many more. | |||
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"Any swinger or women in particular is regarded as adulterers by any Muslim with basic not even extreme beliefs. The punishment for adultery is usually prison and flogging for the man and prison then stoning to death for the woman. The women get blamed even if they get raped because she made him do it by luring him. I'm not Islamophobic this is Sharia law and a fact." Do all Muslims follow sharia law then? | |||
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"Folks I say enjoy this life u have now and things like fab because in 20/30 years instead of enjoying a great social life and having great sex the ppl of England will be praying 5 times a day to Allah Islam will be the rule of law in England in the near future and that's sad to think but it's unstoppable I think "What an absolute load of bollocks!! We are a christian country now yet I dont go to church and pray every Sunday. No one can tell me to follow a religion!! | |||
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"Any swinger or women in particular is regarded as adulterers by any Muslim with basic not even extreme beliefs. The punishment for adultery is usually prison and flogging for the man and prison then stoning to death for the woman. The women get blamed even if they get raped because she made him do it by luring him. I'm not Islamophobic this is Sharia law and a fact. Do all Muslims follow sharia law then? " And at one time, in Britain, Christian women were beheaded for adultery. Some famous cases of it, actually. 2 of them were cousins. Doesn't the Bible talk about women being stoned to death for adultery? Just because western society no longer allows these, doesn't mean it never did. This site itself goes against fundamental Christian beliefs, as well. The likes of westboro Baptist would condemn us all to the deepest level of hell without second thought. Yet we deem ourselves worthy of living or lives as our conscience dictates as a right, not the privilege that it truly is. We also apparently seem to deem it our right to sit in judgement on others that we don't truly understand just because their conscience tells them something different to ours. That! That is the real threat to 'British society'. It ain't religious. It's the 'I'm entitled. I can. It's my right.' mentality. | |||
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It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where Black Men cannot walk down in civilian clothes, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a Black Bastard and had a group of youths harrass me in the street whilst in in a suit and tie (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where Black Men are treated with suspicion when being served in shops when in civilian clothes. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. We British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live....that said we British must understand that we are a very diverse society and we do a lot of different things in a lot of different ways which reflect a lot of background cultures in our society that are now British. We are either tolerant and inclusive or we are not! Politicians already know that extremism has existed in this country for as long as can be remembered, it's simply about whose on the recieving end and how we choose to deal with it. The Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular are no more to blame for the reporters death than you or me. Education and de-radicalisation of the young in our society is everyones job, before its too late. There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where disabled people cannot accesss in the same way as the majority of people, not for fear of offending people... but because someone has decided to construct barriers!!! I myself are forever being branded a Blind Bastard and have had groups of youths taunt, insult , and spit at me in the street whilst in a suit and tie going about my business. My friend who is also Blind was thrown into a canal by a similar group of youths (I'll leave it to you to guess their collective IQ and ethnicity!).... There are employers where Blind Men, and women come to that are treated with suspicion when being inter_iewed for jobs in companies when doing nothing more than the next person. There are shops where the inaccessibility of the built environment and staff can, and have, refused to allow access or to sell certain items due to their biggoted beliefs. We British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live....that said we British must understand that we are a very diverse society and we do a lot of different things in a lot of different ways which reflect a lot of background cultures in our society that are now British. We are either tolerant and inclusive or we are not! The sobering truth is that we are about inclusive across all cultures and diversities as is the moon is made of cream cheese. Politicians already know that discrimination has existed in this country for as long as can be remembered, it's simply about whose on the recieving end and whether that has a huge impact on society as a whole, or whether by fobbing that minority off with a tokenistic piece of statute, all bundled in within a weightier piece of legislation and given the grand title of the Equality Act 2010 how we choose to deal with it is going to be subject to so much scrutiny and differances in interpretation that true change will remain beyond all Disabled people. The non disabled community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular are to blame for the lack of access to the built environment, barrier free access to literature and the written word, blatant discrimination and outright hatred towards disabled people as much as is those biggoted attitudes of people who cheer and applaud at the disabled communities paralympian achievements, yet continue to patronise and treat those same disabled people less favourably. " | |||
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"In rome do as the Romans do!!! We go over seas the majority live within the laws and beliefs of that country. Do some religions in the uk also do that???. The gentleman who posted here from the brum area who said we brought it on ourselfs etc. I find your comments rude and insulting, you are allowed to practise the religion you choose and do the job you want thanks to the British forces of ww1 and ww2. They fought to give us what we have now!!!. Extremeists such as Isis have no place in this society, the blatant and vile murder of the America chap proved that and if you condone the behaviour of such militants then you need your head testing. Anyone that has a British citizenship or passport that goes to fight for Isis or any other group such as them should face the firmest laws or not be allowed to come back to the uk. If they have such strong feeling to fight for the country let them take the whole family and live there. " It was in the news yesterday that new laws are being drawn up in westminster to deal with jihadis who go off to fight in foreign conflicts. They could have their passports removed or their british citizenship taken away, so not be allowed back in the country. I think this is the right way to go, last thing we want are these British ISIS fighters coming back here and doing another 7/7 bombing or Lee Rigby killing. Hopefully an american warplane will drop a bomb on these jihadis heads before they get chance to come back to the uk anyway. As for the guy (who the authorities think is british) who beheaded the american journalist, it was also in the news that MI5 and other intelligence agencies now have a good idea who he is. Hope he is brought to justice soon, and if he is not killed fighting over there, and tries to come back into the UK he should face the full force of the law when he gets here. | |||
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"How come so many go to there restaurants eat there takeaways support Gasa {not the d*unk}. I work in Bradford, I know what happens to your food. I haven't eaten a "Indian" since about 1990 a local curry shop was inspected in ONE. Curry sauce they found traces of... Cat meat (not kittycat.. just cat) Urine Fecies Rat/mouse droppings And last but no means least semen Obviously it got closed down but reopens month or two later" And you think this doesn't happen in any other food outlet? Pop cans are well known for having rat urine on them so think of that every time you quench your thirst by drinking out of them without wiping the top first! | |||
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"In rome do as the Romans do!!! We go over seas the majority live within the laws and beliefs of that country. Do some religions in the uk also do that???. The gentleman who posted here from the brum area who said we brought it on ourselfs etc. I find your comments rude and insulting, you are allowed to practise the religion you choose and do the job you want thanks to the British forces of ww1 and ww2. They fought to give us what we have now!!!. Extremeists such as Isis have no place in this society, the blatant and vile murder of the America chap proved that and if you condone the behaviour of such militants then you need your head testing. Anyone that has a British citizenship or passport that goes to fight for Isis or any other group such as them should face the firmest laws or not be allowed to come back to the uk. If they have such strong feeling to fight for the country let them take the whole family and live there. It was in the news yesterday that new laws are being drawn up in westminster to deal with jihadis who go off to fight in foreign conflicts. They could have their passports removed or their british citizenship taken away, so not be allowed back in the country. I think this is the right way to go, last thing we want are these British ISIS fighters coming back here and doing another 7/7 bombing or Lee Rigby killing. Hopefully an american warplane will drop a bomb on these jihadis heads before they get chance to come back to the uk anyway. As for the guy (who the authorities think is british) who beheaded the american journalist, it was also in the news that MI5 and other intelligence agencies now have a good idea who he is. Hope he is brought to justice soon, and if he is not killed fighting over there, and tries to come back into the UK he should face the full force of the law when he gets here." Up till 1998 it was an act of treason punishable by death to 'Incite Disaffection of members of HM Armed Forces, or to bare arms against the same. However Mr Blair and Co (with the help of the Tories) quietly got rid of all the laws that would now protect us from these jihadists. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where Black Men cannot walk down in civilian clothes, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a Black Bastard and had a group of youths harrass me in the street whilst in in a suit and tie (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where Black Men are treated with suspicion when being served in shops when in civilian clothes. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. We British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live....that said we British must understand that we are a very diverse society and we do a lot of different things in a lot of different ways which reflect a lot of background cultures in our society that are now British. We are either tolerant and inclusive or we are not! Politicians already know that extremism has existed in this country for as long as can be remembered, it's simply about whose on the recieving end and how we choose to deal with it. The Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular are no more to blame for the reporters death than you or me. Education and de-radicalisation of the young in our society is everyones job, before its too late." | |||
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"How come so many go to there restaurants eat there takeaways support Gasa {not the d*unk}. I work in Bradford, I know what happens to your food. I haven't eaten a "Indian" since about 1990 a local curry shop was inspected in ONE. Curry sauce they found traces of... Cat meat (not kittycat.. just cat) Urine Fecies Rat/mouse droppings And last but no means least semen Obviously it got closed down but reopens month or two later And you think this doesn't happen in any other food outlet? Pop cans are well known for having rat urine on them so think of that every time you quench your thirst by drinking out of them without wiping the top first! " Wiping the top of a can does fuck all just makes it look clean the actual stuff that makes you Ill or even can kill you is unseen and unaffected by wiping it.... | |||
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"well well are we not all very tolerent folks!!! yes there may be jihadis on our street but fortunately not all muslims are extremists but as per usual the papers say it and we believe it and before long retribution will be taking place and probably again many innocent law abiding citizens!!!!sorry but our opinion and we expect to bee shot down about it!!!!! " Not everyone will shoot you down. A lot of forumites agree wholeheartedly with you. | |||
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"In rome do as the Romans do!!! We go over seas the majority live within the laws and beliefs of that country. Really? Do the British really do that? From the days of the empire to the present day the British are an embarrassment abroad. Even now many ex pats in countries like Spain fail to integrate with the locals or learn the language. Or do anything other than read the British papers while eating British food. " The difference is Expats don't try and overthrow schools or force religion on to the country they live. Mainly live by the rules and laws of said country expats don't force our women to wear clothes that restrict them as human beings. Expats as a whole don't go to another. Country and look for the benefits office Expats will either be financialy solvent or be working.. yes I know a lot of Expats family friends etc from Canada, France, Germany, China, Hong Kong,Turkey , Denmark, USA, New Zealand, Australia, etc etc | |||
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"well well are we not all very tolerent folks!!! yes there may be jihadis on our street but fortunately not all muslims are extremists but as per usual the papers say it and we believe it and before long retribution will be taking place and probably again many innocent law abiding citizens!!!!sorry but our opinion and we expect to bee shot down about it!!!!!
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"well well are we not all very tolerent folks!!! yes there may be jihadis on our street but fortunately not all muslims are extremists but as per usual the papers say it and we believe it and before long retribution will be taking place and probably again many innocent law abiding citizens!!!!sorry but our opinion and we expect to bee shot down about it!!!!!
Yes we are a tolerant nation, and moderate muslims are welcome here....but some people seem to be in denial or simply refuse to acknowledge there is a very real threat from radical muslim extremist fundamentalits in this country. Why don't these politically correct do-gooders just get off their high horses and admit it???"I think when you attack people as being political correct do-gooders for holding a different _iew you lose the moral high ground in an argument as it becomes petty name calling. I do not know one person that denies that extremism exists in Britain. It's undeniable. But as even the vast majority of muslims condemn that behaviour I'm not overly concerned about it being widespread. Tge muslims I know (and there are many) are without exception good peaceful people | |||
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"How come so many go to there restaurants eat there takeaways support Gasa {not the d*unk}. I work in Bradford, I know what happens to your food. I haven't eaten a "Indian" since about 1990 a local curry shop was inspected in ONE. Curry sauce they found traces of... Cat meat (not kittycat.. just cat) Urine Fecies Rat/mouse droppings And last but no means least semen Obviously it got closed down but reopens month or two later And you think this doesn't happen in any other food outlet? Pop cans are well known for having rat urine on them so think of that every time you quench your thirst by drinking out of them without wiping the top first! Wiping the top of a can does fuck all just makes it look clean the actual stuff that makes you Ill or even can kill you is unseen and unaffected by wiping it...." I think you missed the point I was trying to make lol | |||
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"well well are we not all very tolerent folks!!! yes there may be jihadis on our street but fortunately not all muslims are extremists but as per usual the papers say it and we believe it and before long retribution will be taking place and probably again many innocent law abiding citizens!!!!sorry but our opinion and we expect to bee shot down about it!!!!!
Yes we are a tolerant nation, and moderate muslims are welcome here....but some people seem to be in denial or simply refuse to acknowledge there is a very real threat from radical muslim extremist fundamentalits in this country. Why don't these politically correct do-gooders just get off their high horses and admit it???
I think when you attack people as being political correct do-gooders for holding a different _iew you lose the moral high ground in an argument as it becomes petty name calling.
I do not know one person that denies that extremism exists in Britain. It's undeniable. But as even the vast majority of muslims condemn that behaviour I'm not overly concerned about it being widespread. Tge muslims I know (and there are many) are without exception good peaceful people"And also because some of us arguing from an opposing perspective are far from politically correct do gooders, (just ask me my thoughts on the death penalty or penalties for pedophiles to see the truth of that) though we are both politically aware and politically educated and as such look at the situation for the reality And analyse the facts that we find in order to come to a grounded and informed conclusion on an issue rather than scaremongering, attempting to penalise the whole because of the actions of the few, or just in general spread misinformation and hypocrisy. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where Black Men cannot walk down in civilian clothes, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a Black Bastard and had a group of youths harrass me in the street whilst in in a suit and tie (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where Black Men are treated with suspicion when being served in shops when in civilian clothes. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. We British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live....that said we British must understand that we are a very diverse society and we do a lot of different things in a lot of different ways which reflect a lot of background cultures in our society that are now British. We are either tolerant and inclusive or we are not! Politicians already know that extremism has existed in this country for as long as can be remembered, it's simply about whose on the recieving end and how we choose to deal with it. The Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular are no more to blame for the reporters death than you or me. Education and de-radicalisation of the young in our society is everyones job, before its too late. There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where disabled people cannot accesss in the same way as the majority of people, not for fear of offending people... but because someone has decided to construct barriers!!! I myself are forever being branded a Blind Bastard and have had groups of youths taunt, insult , and spit at me in the street whilst in a suit and tie going about my business. My friend who is also Blind was thrown into a canal by a similar group of youths (I'll leave it to you to guess their collective IQ and ethnicity!).... There are employers where Blind Men, and women come to that are treated with suspicion when being inter_iewed for jobs in companies when doing nothing more than the next person. There are shops where the inaccessibility of the built environment and staff can, and have, refused to allow access or to sell certain items due to their biggoted beliefs. We British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live....that said we British must understand that we are a very diverse society and we do a lot of different things in a lot of different ways which reflect a lot of background cultures in our society that are now British. We are either tolerant and inclusive or we are not! The sobering truth is that we are about inclusive across all cultures and diversities as is the moon is made of cream cheese. Politicians already know that discrimination has existed in this country for as long as can be remembered, it's simply about whose on the recieving end and whether that has a huge impact on society as a whole, or whether by fobbing that minority off with a tokenistic piece of statute, all bundled in within a weightier piece of legislation and given the grand title of the Equality Act 2010 how we choose to deal with it is going to be subject to so much scrutiny and differances in interpretation that true change will remain beyond all Disabled people. The non disabled community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular are to blame for the lack of access to the built environment, barrier free access to literature and the written word, blatant discrimination and outright hatred towards disabled people as much as is those biggoted attitudes of people who cheer and applaud at the disabled communities paralympian achievements, yet continue to patronise and treat those same disabled people less favourably. " Great post | |||
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"Also on the subject of religious extremism can we mention Britain First who masquerade behind the mask of Christianity . They think terrorising old mem in Mosques is acceptable. They think using Lee Rigby's death despite the _xpressed wishes of his family not to do so is acceptable. They think using the death of our soldiers to fuel hatred despite the _xpressed wishes of our armed forces not to do so is acceptable. They think blaming Robin Williams for his own death because he denounced Christianity is acceptable They think dressing like paramilitaries and intimidating people who disagree with them is acceptable. And they do all that while claiming to be 'Christian'. So let's not kid ourselves that it's just Muslims that are out on our streets preaching intolerance and hatred and creating an atmosphere of fear because it's not. Hatred bigotry and intolerance are human traits not aligned to any particular religion" Very well put
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Yes we are a tolerant nation, and moderate muslims are welcome here....but some people seem to be in denial or simply refuse to acknowledge there is a very real threat from radical muslim extremist fundamentalits in this country. Why don't these politically correct do-gooders just get off their high horses and admit it???
I think when you attack people as being political correct do-gooders for holding a different _iew you lose the moral high ground in an argument as it becomes petty name calling.
I do not know one person that denies that extremism exists in Britain. It's undeniable. But as even the vast majority of muslims condemn that behaviour I'm not overly concerned about it being widespread. Tge muslims I know (and there are many) are without exception good peaceful people"...and as i said moderate muslims are welcome in the uk. I am concerned that it is more widespread than you think. The government estimate at least 500 Brits have gone off to fight for ISIS in syria or Iraq. Where are these muslims being radicalised? Is it open extremism being preached in mosques that is radicalising them or are they all just being radicalised from the internet? The americans are sending their own intelligence team over here as they think we are a soft touch with muslim extremists (does'nt exactly fill you with confidence does it?). What ever the case, the threat is real and people are entitled to be concerned. For the record i don't think the moderate muslim community in this country is being vocal enough in their condemnation of these terrorists, and i think the muslim community should be doing more to expose the extremists within their community. | |||
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"There are streets in THIS COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY, where British soldiers cannot walk down in uniform, not for fear of offending people... but in case someone decides to attack them!!! I myself was branded a "baby killer" and had a group of youths chase after me in the street whilst in uniform (I'll leave it to you to guess their ethnicity!).... too bad they stopped when I turned and faced them down! There are streets where British soldiers cannot get served in shops when in uniform. There are shops where staff can, and have, refused to sell certain items due to their religious beliefs. I have no problem with others being free to practice their religion, in fact I welcome it, we British are, for the most part, a very tolerant and inclusive society, but OUR society is what is important, if you don't like the way we do things, then go and find somewhere else to live, if you don't want to serve certain items, find a job where they are not sold. It's time the politicians woke up to the fact that, sooner rather than later, we face a very real threat from extremism in this country. We are away this week, but I'm willing to bet the Muslim community in general, and their leaders in the UK in particular, are being very quiet about the reporters death. They are the ones that need to lead the way in the education and de-radicalisation of young muslims, before its too late. " Soldiers weren't allowed in uniform when there were issues with the ira.can't blame this on a small minority | |||
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"well well are we not all very tolerent folks!!! yes there may be jihadis on our street but fortunately not all muslims are extremists but as per usual the papers say it and we believe it and before long retribution will be taking place and probably again many innocent law abiding citizens!!!!sorry but our opinion and we expect to bee shot down about it!!!!!
Yes we are a tolerant nation, and moderate muslims are welcome here....but some people seem to be in denial or simply refuse to acknowledge there is a very real threat from radical muslim extremist fundamentalits in this country. Why don't these politically correct do-gooders just get off their high horses and admit it???
I think when you attack people as being political correct do-gooders for holding a different _iew you lose the moral high ground in an argument as it becomes petty name calling.
I do not know one person that denies that extremism exists in Britain. It's undeniable. But as even the vast majority of muslims condemn that behaviour I'm not overly concerned about it being widespread. Tge muslims I know (and there are many) are without exception good peaceful people
...and as i said moderate muslims are welcome in the uk. I am concerned that it is more widespread than you think. The government estimate at least 500 Brits have gone off to fight for ISIS in syria or Iraq. Where are these muslims being radicalised? Is it open extremism being preached in mosques that is radicalising them or are they all just being radicalised from the internet?
The americans are sending their own intelligence team over here as they think we are a soft touch with muslim extremists (does'nt exactly fill you with confidence does it?).
What ever the case, the threat is real and people are entitled to be concerned. For the record i don't think the moderate muslim community in this country is being vocal enough in their condemnation of these terrorists, and i think the muslim community should be doing more to expose the extremists within their community. "There is no way that the Americans can openly operate an Intelligence team investigating British Nationals without explicit invitation from Her Majestys Government so yes it does fill me with confidence that we are asking for help, What doesnt fill me with confidence is the CIA who often cause more problems than they stop. Gimp | |||
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"Also on the subject of religious extremism can we mention Britain First who masquerade behind the mask of Christianity . They think terrorising old mem in Mosques is acceptable. They think using Lee Rigby's death despite the _xpressed wishes of his family not to do so is acceptable. They think using the death of our soldiers to fuel hatred despite the _xpressed wishes of our armed forces not to do so is acceptable. They think blaming Robin Williams for his own death because he denounced Christianity is acceptable They think dressing like paramilitaries and intimidating people who disagree with them is acceptable. And they do all that while claiming to be 'Christian'. So let's not kid ourselves that it's just Muslims that are out on our streets preaching intolerance and hatred and creating an atmosphere of fear because it's not. Hatred bigotry and intolerance are human traits not aligned to any particular religion" Says the self confessed member of the UAF, a horrid organisation no better than the EDL who they oppose....2 sides of the same ugly hate filled coin. | |||
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"well well are we not all very tolerent folks!!! yes there may be jihadis on our street but fortunately not all muslims are extremists but as per usual the papers say it and we believe it and before long retribution will be taking place and probably again many innocent law abiding citizens!!!!sorry but our opinion and we expect to bee shot down about it!!!!!
Yes we are a tolerant nation, and moderate muslims are welcome here....but some people seem to be in denial or simply refuse to acknowledge there is a very real threat from radical muslim extremist fundamentalits in this country. Why don't these politically correct do-gooders just get off their high horses and admit it???
I think when you attack people as being political correct do-gooders for holding a different _iew you lose the moral high ground in an argument as it becomes petty name calling.
I do not know one person that denies that extremism exists in Britain. It's undeniable. But as even the vast majority of muslims condemn that behaviour I'm not overly concerned about it being widespread. Tge muslims I know (and there are many) are without exception good peaceful people
...and as i said moderate muslims are welcome in the uk. I am concerned that it is more widespread than you think. The government estimate at least 500 Brits have gone off to fight for ISIS in syria or Iraq. Where are these muslims being radicalised? Is it open extremism being preached in mosques that is radicalising them or are they all just being radicalised from the internet?
The americans are sending their own intelligence team over here as they think we are a soft touch with muslim extremists (does'nt exactly fill you with confidence does it?).
What ever the case, the threat is real and people are entitled to be concerned. For the record i don't think the moderate muslim community in this country is being vocal enough in their condemnation of these terrorists, and i think the muslim community should be doing more to expose the extremists within their community.
There is no way that the Americans can openly operate an Intelligence team investigating British Nationals without explicit invitation from Her Majestys Government so yes it does fill me with confidence that we are asking for help, What doesnt fill me with confidence is the CIA who often cause more problems than they stop.
Gimp"Of course the americans will be invited in, it goes without saying being as they are our close allies in the war on terror. Not sure that we have asked for help or that the americans have told us we need help and that they _iew us as a soft touch when is comes to muslim extremists? ...and you just contradicted yourself, in one breath you say it fills you with confidence that we ask for help then in the next breath you say they CIA does'nt fill you with confidence?????? So what is it to be, please make your mind up? lol | |||
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"well well are we not all very tolerent folks!!! yes there may be jihadis on our street but fortunately not all muslims are extremists but as per usual the papers say it and we believe it and before long retribution will be taking place and probably again many innocent law abiding citizens!!!!sorry but our opinion and we expect to bee shot down about it!!!!!
Yes we are a tolerant nation, and moderate muslims are welcome here....but some people seem to be in denial or simply refuse to acknowledge there is a very real threat from radical muslim extremist fundamentalits in this country. Why don't these politically correct do-gooders just get off their high horses and admit it???
I think when you attack people as being political correct do-gooders for holding a different _iew you lose the moral high ground in an argument as it becomes petty name calling.
I do not know one person that denies that extremism exists in Britain. It's undeniable. But as even the vast majority of muslims condemn that behaviour I'm not overly concerned about it being widespread. Tge muslims I know (and there are many) are without exception good peaceful people
...and as i said moderate muslims are welcome in the uk. I am concerned that it is more widespread than you think. The government estimate at least 500 Brits have gone off to fight for ISIS in syria or Iraq. Where are these muslims being radicalised? Is it open extremism being preached in mosques that is radicalising them or are they all just being radicalised from the internet?
The americans are sending their own intelligence team over here as they think we are a soft touch with muslim extremists (does'nt exactly fill you with confidence does it?).
What ever the case, the threat is real and people are entitled to be concerned. For the record i don't think the moderate muslim community in this country is being vocal enough in their condemnation of these terrorists, and i think the muslim community should be doing more to expose the extremists within their community.
There is no way that the Americans can openly operate an Intelligence team investigating British Nationals without explicit invitation from Her Majestys Government so yes it does fill me with confidence that we are asking for help, What doesnt fill me with confidence is the CIA who often cause more problems than they stop.
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Of course the americans will be invited in, it goes without saying being as they are our close allies in the war on terror. Not sure that we have asked for help or that the americans have told us we need help and that they _iew us as a soft touch when is comes to muslim extremists?
...and you just contradicted yourself, in one breath you say it fills you with confidence that we ask for help then in the next breath you say they CIA does'nt fill you with confidence??????
So what is it to be, please make your mind up? lol"The cia have brought more wars instability coups and regime changes than I can think of. | |||
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"well well are we not all very tolerent folks!!! yes there may be jihadis on our street but fortunately not all muslims are extremists but as per usual the papers say it and we believe it and before long retribution will be taking place and probably again many innocent law abiding citizens!!!!sorry but our opinion and we expect to bee shot down about it!!!!!
Yes we are a tolerant nation, and moderate muslims are welcome here....but some people seem to be in denial or simply refuse to acknowledge there is a very real threat from radical muslim extremist fundamentalits in this country. Why don't these politically correct do-gooders just get off their high horses and admit it???
I think when you attack people as being political correct do-gooders for holding a different _iew you lose the moral high ground in an argument as it becomes petty name calling.
I do not know one person that denies that extremism exists in Britain. It's undeniable. But as even the vast majority of muslims condemn that behaviour I'm not overly concerned about it being widespread. Tge muslims I know (and there are many) are without exception good peaceful people
...and as i said moderate muslims are welcome in the uk. I am concerned that it is more widespread than you think. The government estimate at least 500 Brits have gone off to fight for ISIS in syria or Iraq. Where are these muslims being radicalised? Is it open extremism being preached in mosques that is radicalising them or are they all just being radicalised from the internet?
The americans are sending their own intelligence team over here as they think we are a soft touch with muslim extremists (does'nt exactly fill you with confidence does it?).
What ever the case, the threat is real and people are entitled to be concerned. For the record i don't think the moderate muslim community in this country is being vocal enough in their condemnation of these terrorists, and i think the muslim community should be doing more to expose the extremists within their community.
There is no way that the Americans can openly operate an Intelligence team investigating British Nationals without explicit invitation from Her Majestys Government so yes it does fill me with confidence that we are asking for help, What doesnt fill me with confidence is the CIA who often cause more problems than they stop.
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Of course the americans will be invited in, it goes without saying being as they are our close allies in the war on terror. Not sure that we have asked for help or that the americans have told us we need help and that they _iew us as a soft touch when is comes to muslim extremists?
...and you just contradicted yourself, in one breath you say it fills you with confidence that we ask for help then in the next breath you say they CIA does'nt fill you with confidence??????
So what is it to be, please make your mind up? lol"Intelligence services have cooperated since the inception of intelligence services, under the right circumstances. Whether they offered or were asked in, they couldn't do it without the uk being willing. And it may or may not be the cia. There has four many years been a joint British American security council. It may be homeland security, tge fbi, tge nsa, the secret service, or any combination of the above who are offering to aid Britain. | |||
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"well well are we not all very tolerent folks!!! yes there may be jihadis on our street but fortunately not all muslims are extremists but as per usual the papers say it and we believe it and before long retribution will be taking place and probably again many innocent law abiding citizens!!!!sorry but our opinion and we expect to bee shot down about it!!!!!
Yes we are a tolerant nation, and moderate muslims are welcome here....but some people seem to be in denial or simply refuse to acknowledge there is a very real threat from radical muslim extremist fundamentalits in this country. Why don't these politically correct do-gooders just get off their high horses and admit it???" | |||
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"Out of interest can sone one tell me what a 'moderate muslim' is? Or a -politically correct do-gooder' for that matter? " Could someone also tell me what "moderate Muslims are welcome in the UK" means. Muslims have been in the Uk from as early as the 9th century so they have been practising their religioun here longer than many of the Church of England faiths. | |||
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"Also on the subject of religious extremism can we mention Britain First who masquerade behind the mask of Christianity . They think terrorising old mem in Mosques is acceptable. They think using Lee Rigby's death despite the _xpressed wishes of his family not to do so is acceptable. They think using the death of our soldiers to fuel hatred despite the _xpressed wishes of our armed forces not to do so is acceptable. They think blaming Robin Williams for his own death because he denounced Christianity is acceptable They think dressing like paramilitaries and intimidating people who disagree with them is acceptable. And they do all that while claiming to be 'Christian'. So let's not kid ourselves that it's just Muslims that are out on our streets preaching intolerance and hatred and creating an atmosphere of fear because it's not. Hatred bigotry and intolerance are human traits not aligned to any particular religion" Great post
Hatred, bigotry and intolerance are very ugly traits that most reasonable human beings would not openly admit to having.
Dress these traits up in some form of nationalism or religious conviction and some otherwise decent human beings choose to be blind to the naked reality of their bigotted intolerance.
ISIS has and will kill more Muslims than Christians.
Had Obama and Cameron achieved their goals of going to war with Syria in order to remove Assad and support the 'rebels', British troops would be fighting as 'allies' with some of the groups that now align themselves to ISIS.
This is a complex mess and one thing we do not need is to allow scare mongers to divide British society even more than it already is by use of their own bigotted intolerance.
Why would a complex war between Muslims in the middle east invoke discussions of selling alcohol over shop counters in England?
Some people will choose to twist this ISIS situation in northern Iraq to push their own divisive personal agendas based in their own naked bigottry.
Some extremists would like Muslims to leave the UK. Some extremists would like to impose sharia law in the UK. Many Christian extremists choose to forget that we've been here before with the whole Catholic v Protestant dogma.
Extremists on one side of an argument will always create extremists on the other. All extremists pedal fear.
Think for yourselves people, and then ask yourselves whether your thoughts are genuinely tolerant or not.
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