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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Having just done an online calculation showing what help i'm entitled too for returning back to work i can easily understand why some people stay at home..

so sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having just done an online calculation showing what help i'm entitled too for returning back to work i can easily understand why some people stay at home..

so sad "

Is fooked up. There is little incentive and little assistance

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I'd never be able to stay at home I'd be far worse off on benefits as I'm not in social housing I'm under the age of 35 I have no kids etc...so I'm quite happy to have a job

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd never be able to stay at home I'd be far worse off on benefits as I'm not in social housing I'm under the age of 35 I have no kids etc...so I'm quite happy to have a job "

im not in social housing, im privately rented but i am a 'lone parent' so thats why i get the help.

im thrilled to have a job for my own self worth, but to see id be working for just £1.24 more for 29hrs work,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you think you should be paid more or benefits should be less?

Just curious...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a single working parent too and I would probably be better off financially staying at home. But I go to work for own sanity and to I still the working ethic to my child. I agree that it is depressing effectively working for nothing but I would rather do that and have tons of self-respect.

Not having a go by the way, just putting my point of view across x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Do you think you should be paid more or benefits should be less?

Just curious..."

im unsure really ive worked and lived independently with no benefits (prior to my child)

worked along side benefits (with child)

and been soley dependent on benefits (with child)

life currently certainly isnt easy being on income support thats for sure, i dont drink, smoke, do drugs, have no loans, credit cards, no sky tv etc..

the money i recieve from the gov goes on rent, council tax, water rates, gas, elec,

yes i guess my car, broadband/landline, and tv licence are luxuries, but after those theres not much to go on food. im far from lavish

in answer to the question though Lib, id say benefits need cutting to make it worth the people returning. but im not lavish and its still really tight to survive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"in answer to the question though Lib, id say benefits need cutting to make it worth the people returning. but im not lavish and its still really tight to survive "

Interesting.

Wasn't a loaded question or anything, was just keen to hear your opinion having seen/been on both sides of it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm a single working parent too and I would probably be better off financially staying at home. But I go to work for own sanity and to I still the working ethic to my child. I agree that it is depressing effectively working for nothing but I would rather do that and have tons of self-respect.

Not having a go by the way, just putting my point of view across x"

lol i didnt think you were having a go, its an open forum. i am returning to work just saddened me because i didn't realize how little the difference was financially..

thought there would be a bigger incentive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a single working parent too and I would probably be better off financially staying at home. But I go to work for own sanity and to I still the working ethic to my child. I agree that it is depressing effectively working for nothing but I would rather do that and have tons of self-respect.

Not having a go by the way, just putting my point of view across x

lol i didnt think you were having a go, its an open forum. i am returning to work just saddened me because i didn't realize how little the difference was financially..

thought there would be a bigger incentive "

there are incentives but they aren't financial unfortunately. It thoroughly depresses me during the 6 weeks holiday as all my wages go on child care fees. Thankfully I have a very, very supportive family who continually help me out, I would not survive if it wasn't for them x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd never be able to stay at home I'd be far worse off on benefits as I'm not in social housing I'm under the age of 35 I have no kids etc...so I'm quite happy to have a job

im not in social housing, im privately rented but i am a 'lone parent' so thats why i get the help.

im thrilled to have a job for my own self worth, but to see id be working for just £1.24 more for 29hrs work,

"

£1.24.

Some self worth lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So, really, you could now go over the 30 hour threshold and work full time then?

That must be worth some more worth?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I know you are not in social housing I only used it as an example as HB would cover the full rent if I was...I'd get the shared allowance as I'm under 35 so would have to find a couple £100 to make up the shortfall in HB...It's a tough old world out there and I'm truly happy to be in work even if I am skint a week after payday as it covers rent, bills a few clothes and a bit of vodka... good luck in your new role it will be exciting times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

So, really, you could now go over the 30 hour threshold and work full time then?

That must be worth some more worth?"

If you work over 30 hours I think it would affect your housing and council tax benefits so you would be even more worse off. Not sure if that is correct though?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"

So, really, you could now go over the 30 hour threshold and work full time then?

That must be worth some more worth?

If you work over 30 hours I think it would affect your housing and council tax benefits so you would be even more worse off. Not sure if that is correct though?"

No they look at income not hours if you work under 16 hours you would be entitled to passported benefits

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

So, really, you could now go over the 30 hour threshold and work full time then?

That must be worth some more worth?"

not entirely sure how that would work..

from basic understanding id be able to get more working tax credit as id be entering a higher bracket 30-38hrs work .. but also the more earnings i bring home in wages the less housing benefit i recieve.

not looked into that as 9-3 5 days a week is enough..

they are knocking off an hour to allow me to drop and pick lil one up from school which im greatful for

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

working tax credit is based on the hours worked

housing benefit is based on the earnings received

eg i worked 24 hrs at £6 my working tax credit was in the 16-24 bracket meaning £72.50 each week..housing ben of approximately £80

i then had a pay rise to £6.94... WTC was still the same at £72.50 but because my weekly earnings had increased my housing benefit was reduced to £68

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

So, really, you could now go over the 30 hour threshold and work full time then?

That must be worth some more worth?

not entirely sure how that would work..

from basic understanding id be able to get more working tax credit as id be entering a higher bracket 30-38hrs work .. but also the more earnings i bring home in wages the less housing benefit i recieve.

not looked into that as 9-3 5 days a week is enough..

they are knocking off an hour to allow me to drop and pick lil one up from school which im greatful for

"

Those are the hours I work. Once my child goes to senior school (in 2 years time) I will go full time but will also lose my benefits. You can't win but hey, money doesn't bring happiness does it!x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I worry that some feel there should be a financial incentive to work doesn't everyone have the responsibility to contribute to the system if they can? I don't think there should be an incentive to work or a deterrent not to sit on your arse people it just would be nice if people did the fair thing.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

But wouldn't you lose income support once your daughter turned 5 anyway?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"But wouldn't you lose income support once your daughter turned 5 anyway?

"

yup ive never been on JSA so no idea how much that is

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I worry that some feel there should be a financial incentive to work doesn't everyone have the responsibility to contribute to the system if they can? I don't think there should be an incentive to work or a deterrent not to sit on your arse people it just would be nice if people did the fair thing. "

understand what you are saying, ive worked before and returning back to it, but my point is that i can understand why (when circumstances permit) that some adults think why work when i can sit on my arse, do as i please with no one to tell me what to do when the difference in finances at the end of the month is so very little.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worry that some feel there should be a financial incentive to work doesn't everyone have the responsibility to contribute to the system if they can? I don't think there should be an incentive to work or a deterrent not to sit on your arse people it just would be nice if people did the fair thing. "

This....im in a total grump at all things benefits at the moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im a lone parent on 2 children but have a mortgage so cant possible afford to not work as id lose my home and have 2 yrs left only to pay. Because of this i work over 50 hours a week on 2 jobs and struggle with money.. Becausenof the hours i work i get no help but if i cut my hours to get help id be finantially worse off... Havent had a holiday for 5 years, dont smoke and have no social life because of lack of funds. Im screwed what ever way i look at it. If i had 5 kids and lived in a council house and claimed some had ADHD and i had a drink problem i would be minted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they give with one and take with the other - i have a person i know who has five kids - hubby not working - has money to take them all out to the corrie experience - has a good night out with mates every friday - kid got tablet thing for birthday gift - just had a week in a caravan - theyre not gonna go back to work just keep producing kids - i struggle to eat some weeks makes me so fkg angry - good on you for going back to work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they give with one and take with the other - i have a person i know who has five kids - hubby not working - has money to take them all out to the corrie experience - has a good night out with mates every friday - kid got tablet thing for birthday gift - just had a week in a caravan - theyre not gonna go back to work just keep producing kids - i struggle to eat some weeks makes me so fkg angry - good on you for going back to work "

We have been bike riding in wales, picnics at the beach, walked the wirral way, swimming (free for kids in the holidays) and climbed snowdon. All free and memories made... Kicks arse on the coronation street experience lol but if im honest christmas and birthdays do bother me but my kids dont go without x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worry that some feel there should be a financial incentive to work doesn't everyone have the responsibility to contribute to the system if they can? I don't think there should be an incentive to work or a deterrent not to sit on your arse people it just would be nice if people did the fair thing.

This....im in a total grump at all things benefits at the moment"

I receive benefits but i also work and contribute to the system and have done since i was 16

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" If i had 5 kids and lived in a council house and claimed some had ADHD and i had a drink problem i would be minted. "

We had an MP (Anthony Steen) visit an old workplace and a 36yr old woman said why is there no affordable housing for single people who work dammed hard.. he answered 'have a baby or get a drug addiction'

our jaws hit the floor

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" If i had 5 kids and lived in a council house and claimed some had ADHD and i had a drink problem i would be minted.

We had an MP (Anthony Steen) visit an old workplace and a 36yr old woman said why is there no affordable housing for single people who work dammed hard.. he answered 'have a baby or get a drug addiction'

our jaws hit the floor "

If only someone had that on their phone camera - you'd probably get an MP you deserve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" If i had 5 kids and lived in a council house and claimed some had ADHD and i had a drink problem i would be minted.

We had an MP (Anthony Steen) visit an old workplace and a 36yr old woman said why is there no affordable housing for single people who work dammed hard.. he answered 'have a baby or get a drug addiction'

our jaws hit the floor

If only someone had that on their phone camera - you'd probably get an MP you deserve."

Ha ha UKIP's first parliamentary seat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" If i had 5 kids and lived in a council house and claimed some had ADHD and i had a drink problem i would be minted.

We had an MP (Anthony Steen) visit an old workplace and a 36yr old woman said why is there no affordable housing for single people who work dammed hard.. he answered 'have a baby or get a drug addiction'

our jaws hit the floor "

You were wise to choose the former.

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