FabSwingers.com forum: Sir Cliff

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Police are searching Cliff Richards house. It is reported to be about a sexual offence with an under age boy in the eighties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I couldn't be less suprised.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

It was only a matter of time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wondered how long before he became a suspect

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings

"Police are searching Cliff Richards house. It is reported to be about a sexual offence with an under age boy in the eighties. "

its probably just people junping on the band wagon again !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't it awful that no one is suprised when this happens now

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Innocent until proven guilty and all that...

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings

"Police are searching Cliff Richards house. It is reported to be about a sexual offence with an under age boy in the eighties.

its probably just people jumping on the band wagon again ! "

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

I thought for donkeys years he's dodgy - apparently his neighbours in Portugal abhor him Z

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I thought for donkeys years he's dodgy - apparently his neighbours in Portugal abhor him Z"

Portugal ....! Duh Duh Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I was just going to put this up

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

Cliff Richard

Sir Cliff has known and

loved the Algarve for

over 40 years. His idea

to plant a vineyard at his property Quinta do Moinho provided the genesis point for the Vida Nova range of wines.

Sir Cliff is very much involved in producing the wine. When in Portugal he is often seen getting his hands dirty in the vineyard or indeed his feet dirty in the winery.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wouldnt be at all surprised. But there again it seems the compo chases are just making a list of celebs to accuse and as soon as ones cleared they move onto the next.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Isn't it awful that no one is suprised when this happens now"

Isn't it?

I read an article the other day about a massive conspiracy theory about the BBC and all the goings on after Mike Smith's death. It goes back to the murder of Jill Dando... makes you think.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Weeeeeeeeeell we can't have witch hunts anymore ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it awful that no one is suprised when this happens now

Isn't it?

I read an article the other day about a massive conspiracy theory about the BBC and all the goings on after Mike Smith's death. It goes back to the murder of Jill Dando... makes you think.

I do love a conspiracy theory

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wouldnt be at all surprised. But there again it seems the compo chases are just making a list of celebs to accuse and as soon as ones cleared they move onto the next."

This is my thinking. It makes me sad because there is very little these celebrities can do to prove their innocence and are pretty much guilty the moment an accusation is made.

I do think that yes if they have done these things that justice should come out... But..... I'm not sure in many of these Cases justice has been done x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it awful that no one is suprised when this happens now

Isn't it?

I read an article the other day about a massive conspiracy theory about the BBC and all the goings on after Mike Smith's death. It goes back to the murder of Jill Dando... makes you think.

I also read this.

I'm not a fan of the BBC and as soon as the whole Saville thing surfaced I suspected there was some kind of paedo ring there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always thought he was gay But a paedo? Surprised at that. But then he did go on about the Young Ones

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

An old friend of mine who worked in the media told me about 25 years ago that eventually Cliff Richard along with 3 other celebrities would be found guilty of sex abuse - some involving children - the other 3 have been found guilty so i guess he was right Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people always say things about men who don't have girlfriends or aren't interested in women though, mostly because they don't like anyone who is a bit different and they are jealous of their freedom and in cliffs case jealous of his wealth.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

"people always say things about men who don't have girlfriends or aren't interested in women though, mostly because they don't like anyone who is a bit different and they are jealous of their freedom and in cliffs case jealous of his wealth."

This is so ridiculous! lol - cheers for that. Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A source in the Met told me over 20 years ago the there was a file on him. Would never tell me any more than that but hinted it was young girls rather than boys.

I fully expected this to break sooner rather than later.

May I also add that as there are no legal proceedings yet, there is no case of subjudicy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is so ridiculous! lol - cheers for that. Z"

I wasn't having a dig at you, I was thinking about other people.

I believe what you said but I still always say innocent until proven guilty whoever they are.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

This is so ridiculous! lol - cheers for that. Z

I wasn't having a dig at you, I was thinking about other people.

I believe what you said but I still always say innocent until proven guilty whoever they are."

Fair enough - I'm sure it'll come out in due course, Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its funny that its taken so long to come out though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The media have files on many celebs. They often don't print the stories against big stars unless they can corroborate from another source. Best example of not publishing the stories was Robert Maxwell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The media have files on many celebs. They often don't print the stories against big stars unless they can corroborate from another source. Best example of not publishing the stories was Robert Maxwell"

And I'm sure most of the things they know implicate people they'd rather not get involved too (higher ranks, politicians, etc).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sir cliff has issued a statement denying these old allegations

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

Its funny that its taken so long to come out though. "

Very funny - Saville was dead though - time is irrelevant Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it awful that no one is suprised when this happens now

Isn't it?

I read an article the other day about a massive conspiracy theory about the BBC and all the goings on after Mike Smith's death. It goes back to the murder of Jill Dando... makes you think.

I also read this.

I'm not a fan of the BBC and as soon as the whole Saville thing surfaced I suspected there was some kind of paedo ring there. "
so much has been uncovered since mike smiths death

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

Less of the sir...

About time he's been collared.

If anyone didn't think he was dodgy needs their head examined

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

Makes you wonder how you get knighted..

Is it some sick club or something

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

Bit early for accusations. Cant say I'm surprised tho if its found to be true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's Mike Smith alleged to have done?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im very glad im not on trial with some of the posters on here as jury

Innocent until proven guilty means bugger all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was just going to put this up

thats what Cliff said to the 8 year old boy probably"

Please posters - Take care and remember Lord McAlpine and the internet slander case. You are not anonymous on here.

The police are searching. If they find nothing ......

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

so does one assume that those who think these victims are 'compo chasers' would be fine with some paedophile molesting their own child..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Innocent until proven guilty and all that...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Less of the sir...

About time he's been collared.

If anyone didn't think he was dodgy needs their head examined"

because he is gay?

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Less of the sir...

About time he's been collared.

If anyone didn't think he was dodgy needs their head examined

because he is gay?"

haven't seen any evidence he is gay, he could be, could not, however seen info he likes young children

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people should be careful what they say though because some men have had their lives ruined by being accused of rape when they were innocent.

there isn't any proof that he is dodgy, how many people really know him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It has also been released that this investigation is NOT PART of Scotland yards investigation, operation yew tree. It's a Yorkshire police investigation.

Frankly, they've been at his home. This could involve an employee of his and not himself.

Anything is possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never thought he was gay.

I thought Sue Barker might be though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It has also been released that this investigation is NOT PART of Scotland yards investigation, operation yew tree. It's a Yorkshire police investigation.

Frankly, they've been at his home. This could involve an employee of his and not himself.

Anything is possible. "
it is about him, his statement reveals that much

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Less of the sir...

About time he's been collared.

If anyone didn't think he was dodgy needs their head examined

because he is gay?

haven't seen any evidence he is gay, he could be, could not, however seen info he likes young children "

and what did you do about this 'info'?

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Less of the sir...

About time he's been collared.

If anyone didn't think he was dodgy needs their head examined

because he is gay?

haven't seen any evidence he is gay, he could be, could not, however seen info he likes young children

and what did you do about this 'info'?"

Sit and wait for the police to act...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Less of the sir...

About time he's been collared.

If anyone didn't think he was dodgy needs their head examined

because he is gay?

haven't seen any evidence he is gay, he could be, could not, however seen info he likes young children "

How do we know its true and not gossip though?

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

Hey come on guys, innocent until proven guilty.

Despite Cliff being a prime cunt I'm still prepared to cut him some slack until he is found guilty.

Mind he should have been hanged years ago for his music.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Less of the sir...

About time he's been collared.

If anyone didn't think he was dodgy needs their head examined

because he is gay?

haven't seen any evidence he is gay, he could be, could not, however seen info he likes young children

and what did you do about this 'info'?

Sit and wait for the police to act...

so this info that you knew, could it have prevented or stopped any further 'interest' do you think had it been made known to the authorities..?

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Less of the sir...

About time he's been collared.

If anyone didn't think he was dodgy needs their head examined

because he is gay?

haven't seen any evidence he is gay, he could be, could not, however seen info he likes young children

and what did you do about this 'info'?

Sit and wait for the police to act...

so this info that you knew, could it have prevented or stopped any further 'interest' do you think had it been made known to the authorities..?"

Don't know what planet you've been living on, but there were some very dodgy goings on in the 70's 80's at LEAST.

Operation yew tree, jimmy savile, the BBC, .houses of parliament,etc etc.

The word cover up springs to mind

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

"Hey come on guys, innocent until proven guilty.

Despite Cliff being a prime cunt I'm still prepared to cut him some slack until he is found guilty.

Mind he should have been hanged years ago for his music."

hell yes

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Less of the sir...

About time he's been collared.

If anyone didn't think he was dodgy needs their head examined

because he is gay?

haven't seen any evidence he is gay, he could be, could not, however seen info he likes young children

and what did you do about this 'info'?

Sit and wait for the police to act...

so this info that you knew, could it have prevented or stopped any further 'interest' do you think had it been made known to the authorities..?

Don't know what planet you've been living on, but there were some very dodgy goings on in the 70's 80's at LEAST.

Operation yew tree, jimmy savile, the BBC, .houses of parliament,etc etc.

The word cover up springs to mind"

same one as you but prefer not be judging anyone before any actual evidence is acted upon as per the same that I would expect for you and I were we in bother with the system..

not because of 'how we look', what malicious gossip or tittle tattle some seem to relish on..

dodgy goings on have always gone on not just in those times..

the word paediatrician sprang to the minds of a bunch of fuckwits during the notw campaign, they got that wrong too..

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

I would agree with others on here about slander and getting in deep waters. Innocent til proven guilty i say, i have no feelings either way about him as an artist so cannot be labelled a fan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We can still _xpress our opinions and it doesn't have to be libellous

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

"We can still _xpress our opinions and it doesn't have to be libellous "

Sorry bro it's just I hate his tunes yo.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"We can still _xpress our opinions and it doesn't have to be libellous

Sorry bro it's just I hate his tunes yo."

ditto, some of his 'music' is fucking dire but each to their own..

ah huh..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

He'll be saying a millennium prayer that his hard drive is only wired for sound.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least we wont have to hear Mistletoe and Wine at Christmas! I'm hoping Shaking Stevens is guilty of something as well!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beware the devil woman......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Evie will be devastated!

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

"We can still _xpress our opinions and it doesn't have to be libellous

Sorry bro it's just I hate his tunes yo.

ditto, some of his 'music' is fucking dire but each to their own..

ah huh.."

Just goes to show that 260 million record sales doesn't mean he is or isn't guilty of anything, even though many people seem to like his music as those stats don't lie!

I still hope we live in a country where innocent til proven guilty

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

let the police deal with it

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

"let the police deal with it "

Agreed ! well said !

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"We can still _xpress our opinions and it doesn't have to be libellous

Sorry bro it's just I hate his tunes yo.

ditto, some of his 'music' is fucking dire but each to their own..

ah huh..

Just goes to show that 260 million record sales doesn't mean he is or isn't guilty of anything, even though many people seem to like his music as those stats don't lie!

I still hope we live in a country where innocent til proven guilty"

agree on the last point, sadly there are some who are happy to condemn all n sundry out of hand but no doubt would be livid where they or their own treated in a similar way..

hey ho..

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

If you are going to discuss this please leave the abusing children "jokes" out of it as Admin doesn't like it

Thanks

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By *ighland_RoseCouple
over a year ago

Brigadoon

I'm conflicted on this. On one hand I think this kind of damaging allegation should not be made public unless the person is found guilty because it can ruin them even if found innocent.

On the other hand he's a nonce if ever I saw one.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Do "nonces " have a "look" then?

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

"I'm conflicted on this. On one hand I think this kind of damaging allegation should not be made public unless the person is found guilty because it can ruin them even if found innocent.

On the other hand he's a nonce if ever I saw one."

Highly silly thing to say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do "nonces " have a "look" then?"

Id like to know so I can tell my children to avoid them in that case,if they have a look surely no one would ever get abused

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Do "nonces " have a "look" then?"

They do according to half on here...but in reality they could be anyone from high court judges to mr Joe public there is not really a 'look'

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Do "nonces " have a "look" then?"

to the many character experts on here, obviously yes..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its sad that he may have done something, its sadder the press have to get involved and the fantasists who claim to have previous knowledge need to stop pretending as it only looks sad not clever. Thais one is for the CPS and the courts to decide on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not read the whole thread but get the general idea. The posse is out to lynch someone regardless of being innocent or guilty.

Have we really reverted back to the dark ages, burning witches etc...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not read the whole thread but get the general idea. The posse is out to lynch someone regardless of being innocent or guilty.

Have we really reverted back to the dark ages, burning witches etc...?

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you haven't read the whole thread and the whole thread isn't like that. Some have _xpressed an opinion one way, some the other. It is always innocent until proved guilty but that doesn't we on here cannot _xpress a personal opinion one way or the other without it being libellous. I doubt that anybody believes he is guilty purely on his music but we can still make lighthearted comments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's worth noting his is no longer a British citizen, after obtaining Bajan citizenship.

Im not sure if there is no extradition treaty between Barbados and the UK, but if there wasn't, I wouldn't be surprised.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure he ever was, he was born in India

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

the word paediatrician sprang to the minds of a bunch of fuckwits during the notw campaign, they got that wrong too..

lol - oh dear me! at least get the word right! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is sad that some have already reached a judgement on this story already. I can only wholeheartedly agree with those who say innocent till proven guilty. And, as we can see above, the right to anonymity should go for those being investigated, as well as alleged victims, as so many are quick to judge. If he was younger this could destroy a career and someone's life. There have been celebs who were taken to trial and found innocent or even, as with Freddie Starr, not found to have broken any laws, as well as those who have been found guilty. How many on here would like professional colleagues knowing the lifestyle choices they make? An investigation into something is a long, long way from guilt. The papers ran big headlines shouting about how could these allegations have come to trial on cases like the William Roach/Ken Barlow one. Yet how many prejudged the man? I worry that pretrial publicity will see innocent people condemned

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

It's human nature to discuss and speculate - but of course he's deemed to be innocent until proved guilty - we can still talk about it can't we? Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am sure there is a carp joke about wired for sound in there somewhere.

I shall take the moral high ground and refrain from making it

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

"Do "nonces " have a "look" then?

They do according to half on here...but in reality they could be anyone from high court judges to mr Joe public there is not really a 'look' "
I think the Williams sisters look like blokes, is that what you mean by the look!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do "nonces " have a "look" then?

They do according to half on here...but in reality they could be anyone from high court judges to mr Joe public there is not really a 'look' I think the Williams sisters look like blokes, is that what you mean by the look!!!!"
big cocks too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I recon this is another fame game, news paper offered some one to say something.. soon we will hear its a no show

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

think i want to do the ostrich thing now and stick my head in the sand - world gone bad

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"the word paediatrician sprang to the minds of a bunch of fuckwits during the notw campaign, they got that wrong too..

lol - oh dear me! at least get the word right! Z"

That's what he meant...a paediatrician got hounded because idiots thought he was a paedophile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In all honesty, i do't give a fuck either way.

In reality, what good will come of all this?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Do "nonces " have a "look" then?

Dear god get over that joke...you are starting to sound like a broken record

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

Life would be so much easier if the Judiciary reinstated the ducking stool principal of Guilt or innocence.

Sink, Innocent, Drown.

Float, Guilty, Burn.

Jenny xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do "nonces " have a "look" then?

Dear god get over that joke...you are starting to sound like a broken record

And unfair to a lot of blokes.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Does every thread end up with people needing a tin foil hat?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sad if its true but its certainly a case of jump on the band wagon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"think i want to do the ostrich thing now and stick my head in the sand - world gone bad"
the world was bad when we drowned witches

The world was bad when we sent kids up chimneys

It is much better now, the only difference is awareness of what happens in the world

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

who will be next?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"who will be next?"
one of the telly tubbies but I'm not saying which one.

(Easy to guess though)

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over a year ago

"who will be next?one of the telly tubbies but I'm not saying which one.

(Easy to guess though)"

Stinky winky?

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"Innocent until proven guilty and all that...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"who will be next?one of the telly tubbies but I'm not saying which one.

(Easy to guess though)

Stinky winky?

Calling him that could be libellous. A handbag and a funny walk is not proof of anything

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

"I was just going to put this up

thats what Cliff said to the 8 year old boy probably

Please posters - Take care and remember Lord McAlpine and the internet slander case. You are not anonymous on here.

The police are searching. If they find nothing ......

If celebs had the time or inclination to sue every person who libels them on the internet, they would be in court for a long time. They tend to just sue people who influence a lot of people, so a celeb or someone with a large twitter following.

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By *i-shoptonMan
over a year ago

bishopton

"Isn't it awful that no one is suprised when this happens now

Isn't it?

I read an article the other day about a massive conspiracy theory about the BBC and all the goings on after Mike Smith's death. It goes back to the murder of Jill Dando... makes you think.

Oh come on , for heavens sake!!!!!

Jesus.....

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

He's guilty of crimes against my fucking eardrums, I know that much.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a shame this information has been leaked as, for a lot of people, I'm guessing they'll already be assuming he's guilty. It's likely to be a career breaker, with or without any convictions, and, as he's a notoriously 'sensitive' man, could lead him down a very dark road.

Obviously if he is guilty... that's a very different issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just wish I could of got to sue barker before him I fact I'd still like to get to sue barker mmmmm

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

"Wouldnt be at all surprised. But there again it seems the compo chases are just making a list of celebs to accuse and as soon as ones cleared they move onto the next."

The CPS must take a lot of blame if cases against celebs don't get guilty verdicts. They are the ones who are meant to look at the evidence available and decide if there is a realistic case of conviction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sir Cliff is innocent as everyone knows he is like action mad down below or like in- action man !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Much as I despise the man and his music, it is absolutely foul that someone's name should be ruined just because they are under investigation. Innocent until proven guilty does not even come into it when names are revealed prior to a successful prosecution. How would you like it? It is shocking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the law needs to be changed regarding anonymity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's human nature to discuss and speculate - but of course he's deemed to be innocent until proved guilty - we can still talk about it can't we? Z"
Your "friend" has this man convicted already and your "friend" must be right? I do despair sometimes at the general lack of intellect from the great unwashed!

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's human nature to discuss and speculate - but of course he's deemed to be innocent until proved guilty - we can still talk about it can't we? ZYour "friend" has this man convicted already and your "friend" must be right? I do despair sometimes at the general lack of intellect from the great unwashed!

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered."

Absolutely right. Then we can stone the nonce

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"I think the law needs to be changed regarding anonymity"

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I won't comment on him, I don't enough about it

let the truth be out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am I in the dark ages ? What has come out since mike smiths death

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

A number of celebrities would probably serve themselves well if they came out as liking the same sex. Staying behind a facade of uncertainty etc can help fuel the rabble's distrust. Obviously preferences for adult companions has nothing to do with vile abuse of those who are minors. This whole avalanche of abuse claims seems somewhat more about jumping on bandwagons potentially, though I also believe that strength in numbers leaves people feeling less alone and likely to be ridiculed. I dont think many people are well served by this campaign - any benefit should largely be to stop any vulnerable people being hurt now. I hope anyone however hurt gets peace.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Am I in the dark ages ? What has come out since mike smiths death "
that Jill can do was supposed to have known about a peodophile ring at the BBC and no one would listen

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over a year ago

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"A number of celebrities would probably serve themselves well if they came out as liking the same sex. Staying behind a facade of uncertainty etc can help fuel the rabble's distrust. "

I don't think anyone should have to tell anyone else about their sexuality. It has nothing to do with anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A number of celebrities would probably serve themselves well if they came out as liking the same sex. Staying behind a facade of uncertainty etc can help fuel the rabble's distrust.

I don't think anyone should have to tell anyone else about their sexuality. It has nothing to do with anyone else."
Well said that lady!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

innocent until proven

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

"the word paediatrician sprang to the minds of a bunch of fuckwits during the notw campaign, they got that wrong too..

lol - oh dear me! at least get the word right! Z

That's what he meant...a paediatrician got hounded because idiots thought he was a paedophile."

Ah - i was being very blonde! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A number of celebrities would probably serve themselves well if they came out as liking the same sex. Staying behind a facade of uncertainty etc can help fuel the rabble's distrust.

I don't think anyone should have to tell anyone else about their sexuality. It has nothing to do with anyone else."

no I don't see what difference it makes.

my older brother had a couple of girl friends when he was younger but they dumped him so he just lost interest quite a few men I know are just the same. once bitten twice shy.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Much as I despise the man and his music, it is absolutely foul that someone's name should be ruined just because they are under investigation. Innocent until proven guilty does not even come into it when names are revealed prior to a successful prosecution. How would you like it? It is shocking."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it awful that no one is suprised when this happens now

Isn't it?

I read an article the other day about a massive conspiracy theory about the BBC and all the goings on after Mike Smith's death. It goes back to the murder of Jill Dando... makes you think.

I also read this.

I'm not a fan of the BBC and as soon as the whole Saville thing surfaced I suspected there was some kind of paedo ring there. so much has been uncovered since mike smiths death

What went on after Mike smith died? Has it been in the papers? Haven't seen anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. Z"
Its a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it."

You make me laugh you're so patronising! Z

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it."

So, don't participate in the thread! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it.

So, don't participate in the thread! Z"
So my _iews are patronising? That maybe true but to use the term "my friend said" on a subject as serious as this is naive at best and disgraceful at worst. Patronising is good in this case.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

So, it's this comment that you've taken exception to? Where does it say that he thought he was guilty of anything? You're still making me laugh by the way - very amusing Z

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it.

So, don't participate in the thread! ZSo my _iews are patronising? That maybe true but to use the term "my friend said" on a subject as serious as this is naive at best and disgraceful at worst. Patronising is good in this case."

I didn't say your _iews were patronising - that wouldn't make sense! You're patronising - 'look it up' in the contaxt you used is extremely patronising! Get over yourself! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"An old friend of mine who worked in the media told me about 25 years ago that eventually Cliff Richard along with 3 other celebrities would be found guilty of sex abuse - some involving children - the other 3 have been found guilty so i guess he was right Z"
This is what makes you think he is guilty. The word of your "friend" You can laugh but its people like you who have no sense of justice or the rule of law. By "guessing" your "friend" is right is disgraceful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it.

I didn't say your _iews were patronising - that wouldn't make sense! You're patronising - 'look it up' in the contaxt you used is extremely patronising! Get over yourself! Z"
My _iews can be patronising and you meant context I believe?

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it.

I didn't say your _iews were patronising - that wouldn't make sense! You're patronising - 'look it up' in the contaxt you used is extremely patronising! Get over yourself! ZMy _iews can be patronising and you meant context I believe?"

Yawn - you're stooping now picking up on typos - you'll find your posts are littered with them however I have better things to do than point them all out to you! Still chuckling at you though! Z

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Harry Rodger Webb the worm had finally turned for you

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

Lets just hope it's not new music they've found .......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the law needs to be changed regarding anonymity"

Me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it.

Yawn - you're stooping now picking up on typos - you'll find your posts are littered with them however I have better things to do than point them all out to you! Still chuckling at you though! Z"
You can chuckle away maybe phone you friend to see who else is guilty ...........really quite disgraceful post. Sad really but hey at least your laughing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the law needs to be changed regarding anonymity"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lets just hope it's not new music they've found ......."

Lol!

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it.

Yawn - you're stooping now picking up on typos - you'll find your posts are littered with them however I have better things to do than point them all out to you! Still chuckling at you though! ZYou can chuckle away maybe phone you friend to see who else is guilty ...........really quite disgraceful post. Sad really but hey at least your laughing?"

why am i the only person you've taken to task? Z

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Lets just hope it's not new music they've found ......."

Agree!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Weeeeeeeeeell we can't have witch hunts anymore ....

too right.... God I miss lynchings, finger pointing and your general burning people at the stake!!

I hope people are "very very very careful" about what they alledge....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it.

Yawn - you're stooping now picking up on typos - you'll find your posts are littered with them however I have better things to do than point them all out to you! Still chuckling at you though! ZYou can chuckle away maybe phone you friend to see who else is guilty ...........really quite disgraceful post. Sad really but hey at least your laughing?

why am i the only person you've taken to task? Z"
Because of your post about "your friend" and he must be right. Its idiotic statements like that which are just wrong. No body is right in such matters until the judicial process is exhausted thankfully knowing someone who used to work in the media is not recognised as part of the legal process. This man is already being tried in the press and comments like yours just fuel the frenzy over such matters. If I have offended you then it was not intentional you have the right to comment I have the right to reply even if its considered patronising.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it.

Yawn - you're stooping now picking up on typos - you'll find your posts are littered with them however I have better things to do than point them all out to you! Still chuckling at you though! ZYou can chuckle away maybe phone you friend to see who else is guilty ...........really quite disgraceful post. Sad really but hey at least your laughing?

why am i the only person you've taken to task? ZBecause of your post about "your friend" and he must be right. Its idiotic statements like that which are just wrong. No body is right in such matters until the judicial process is exhausted thankfully knowing someone who used to work in the media is not recognised as part of the legal process. This man is already being tried in the press and comments like yours just fuel the frenzy over such matters. If I have offended you then it was not intentional you have the right to comment I have the right to reply even if its considered patronising."

You haven't offended me in the slightest - Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This man is innocent until he is brought before his peers and the evidence considered.

How rude! 'the great unwashed'? I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty - but come on- it's a forum where a wide variety of topics are discussed - people do like to 'gossip' for want of a better word. ZIts a term used for the vox pop (look it up) and gossip is a very dangerous past time you "friend" will know all about it.

Yawn - you're stooping now picking up on typos - you'll find your posts are littered with them however I have better things to do than point them all out to you! Still chuckling at you though! ZYou can chuckle away maybe phone you friend to see who else is guilty ...........really quite disgraceful post. Sad really but hey at least your laughing?

You haven't offended me in the slightest - Z"
Then all is well.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Phew !!

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

Got myself a crying, talking, sleeping, walking, living doll

Got to do my best to please her, just 'cause she's a living doll

Got a roving eye and that is why she satisfies my soul

Got the one and only walking talking, living doll

Take a look at her hair, it's real

And if you don't believe what I say, just feel

I'm gonna lock her up in a trunk

So no big hunk can steal her away from me

Got myself a crying, talking, sleeping, walking, living doll

Got to do my best to please her, just 'cause she's a living doll

Got a roving eye and that is why she satisfies my soul

Got the one and only walking talking, living doll

Well, take a look at her hair, it's real

And if you don't believe what I say, just feel

Gonna lock her up in a trunk

So no big hunk can steal her away from me

Got myself a crying, talking, sleeping, walking, living doll

Got to do my best to please her, just 'cause she's a living doll

Got a roving eye and that is why she satisfies my soul

Got the one and only walking talking, living doll

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

"Phew !!

Indeed! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Phew !!

Indeed! Z"

Its called healthy debate..............?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

of course a lot of people are jealous of him because he looks after himself and looks good for his age too.

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"of course a lot of people are jealous of him because he looks after himself and looks good for his age too."

Wtf has that got to do with this thread??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"of course a lot of people are jealous of him because he looks after himself and looks good for his age too."

I think he looks like a tortoise in swimming trunks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"of course a lot of people are jealous of him because he looks after himself and looks good for his age too."

So did Dorian Grey

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

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over a year ago

"of course a lot of people are jealous of him because he looks after himself and looks good for his age too.

Wtf has that got to do with this thread??

well, its another reason for some people not to like him of course.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Phew !!

Indeed! Z

Its called healthy debate..............?"

thats not how it read to b fair. it read as nit picking and back biting and point scoring on both sides.

you didn't debate the topic of the thread, just picked oles in Zoe's comment. she wasnt the only one who insinuated insider knowledge on this news story, yet you chose to zone in on that one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we change the record yet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we change the record yet?

if you don't like it don't read it, simples.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we change the record yet?

I suggest wired for sound

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we change the record yet?

I suggest wired for sound"

Congratulations.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

Can we change the record yet?

I suggest wired for sound

Congratulations. "

and jubilations! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we change the record yet?

if you don't like it don't read it, simples."

whoooooosh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we change the record yet?

I suggest wired for sound

Congratulations.

and jubilations! Z"

Hmmmm Z. My theme for a dream.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"so does one assume that those who think these victims are 'compo chasers' would be fine with some paedophile molesting their own child..?

i dont think anypne would accuse a genuine victim of being a compo chaser but the law of averages has to assume that with historical cases like this it is easier for some people to manipulate the truth and claim abuse when non happened.

It shoud never have been disclosed that there were compensation payouts for the others, that way true victims are the only ones that would come forward. If poeple can lie about haing cancer to get money then i am sure people would have no qualms about lying about this.

Just because i hold this _iew does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that i would b ok with anyone touching me or anyone i know inappropriately (abuse can happen at any age). Saying that anyone questioning the motives of a few are pro peaodphile is ridiculous.

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

"Lets just hope it's not new music they've found .......

Agree!"

i'm sure with sales over 260 million he has other things on his mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought for donkeys years he's dodgy - apparently his neighbours in Portugal abhor him Z"

cilla black likes him though.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

"I thought for donkeys years he's dodgy - apparently his neighbours in Portugal abhor him Z

cilla black likes him though.

That's nice, Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Google 'Cliff Richard Kitty' or 'Cliff Richard Elm Guest House'. Tells you all you need to know..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought for donkeys years he's dodgy - apparently his neighbours in Portugal abhor him Z

cilla black likes him though.

That's nice, Z"

Yes.

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By *orflondonerMan
over a year ago

Wood Green

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By *orflondonerMan
over a year ago

Wood Green

All this reference to Mike Smith.Presumably the former Radio 1 DJ who died at the beginning of the month? Are people saying there are rumours about him as well??

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Google 'Cliff Richard Kitty' or 'Cliff Richard Elm Guest House'. Tells you all you need to know.."

Should have age restrictions.

Sure loads of grannies will be having heart attacks

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"All this reference to Mike Smith.Presumably the former Radio 1 DJ who died at the beginning of the month? Are people saying there are rumours about him as well??"
no the opposite

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over a year ago

Would it be in bad taste to sing " the young ones , darling we the young ones " answer on a bail sheet

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over a year ago

"Google 'Cliff Richard Kitty' or 'Cliff Richard Elm Guest House'. Tells you all you need to know.."
a former Tory MP was named today regarding aforementioned guesthouse and not the one usually mentioned. That is going to blow very soon.

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over a year ago

"Google 'Cliff Richard Kitty' or 'Cliff Richard Elm Guest House'. Tells you all you need to know..a former Tory MP was named today regarding aforementioned guesthouse and not the one usually mentioned. That is going to blow very soon. "

That is fucking shocking

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over a year ago

"Google 'Cliff Richard Kitty' or 'Cliff Richard Elm Guest House'. Tells you all you need to know.."

Bizarre.

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