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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

another dangerous dog programme but why is abusing animals getting such a problem?

bloke let its dog have pups for cash and sold them at four weeks old!!! what is wrong with people?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Liberty"

Liberty to do the fuck as they wish, when they wish, how and where they wish with no regard for others, people, aimals or property. Often at our expense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"another dangerous dog programme but why is abusing animals getting such a problem?

bloke let its dog have pups for cash and sold them at four weeks old!!! what is wrong with people?"

Its nothing new 40yrs ago people regularly drowned puppies and kittens and beat dogs its sad though some people don't treat their pets better.

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"another dangerous dog programme but why is abusing animals getting such a problem?

bloke let its dog have pups for cash and sold them at four weeks old!!! what is wrong with people?

Its nothing new 40yrs ago people regularly drowned puppies and kittens and beat dogs its sad though some people don't treat their pets better. "

true ..our dog was one my mum rescued from an evil woman who was going to drown it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've said for years you should have to have a licence to breed and the dogs you sell should be chipped so they are traceable to owner and breeder. If you sold a pup to someone without a licence it would have to be spayed/ neutered. This would mean no inbreeding and no more abandoned untraceable dogs. It would push the price of pets up enormously I would imagine but to me if your willing to pay a larger amount of money for an animal it s out some of the people who buy them on a whim with no knowledge of how to care for them x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've said for years you should have to have a licence to breed and the dogs you sell should be chipped so they are traceable to owner and breeder. If you sold a pup to someone without a licence it would have to be spayed/ neutered. This would mean no inbreeding and no more abandoned untraceable dogs. It would push the price of pets up enormously I would imagine but to me if your willing to pay a larger amount of money for an animal it s out some of the people who buy them on a whim with no knowledge of how to care for them x"

Any chance of extending the "no inbreeding" rule to those who transgress?

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

dog licensing should return agree with micro chipping but not sure it would work esp with dog fighting etc the owners wont want to be traced

something has to be done though to help these poor dogs

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By *imherukCouple
over a year ago

fun town

try watching the news channel for a change .. there's far worse things happening in the world than some geezer selling pups at 4 weeks old

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"try watching the news channel for a change .. there's far worse things happening in the world than some geezer selling pups at 4 weeks old"

do realise that but if people care so little about animals what hope for the human race

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

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By *atsnCorsetsCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

We've rescued most of our cats, one from a guy attempting to drown her, one from a couple who were going to abandon her, and so on.

The sad thing is people don't care about pets the way they should. To us they're our family. They're our kids.

A certain personal ads site is one we hate. The amount of people who have dogs and cats for a month or two and then get bored of them and want rid is shocking.

I think the only possible thing to take from it all is that dogs have been bred for fighting for millennia. Thankfully now there is a spot light on what bit of it still goes on. It's definitely a problem but compared to Victorian times it's a lot better to be a dog today!

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

Probably because they have nothing to be afraid of...

The penalties some of these people get for severe abuse/neglect/cruelty, ect is laughable to say the least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"dog licensing should return agree with micro chipping but not sure it would work esp with dog fighting etc the owners wont want to be traced

something has to be done though to help these poor dogs "
im cat person!!!

But had our jackadoodle for 18 months and totally converted and he's like our

we bairn now, and would protect him at all cost

I can't understand how people mistreat and abuse these we creatures ....,

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"I've said for years you should have to have a licence to breed and the dogs you sell should be chipped so they are traceable to owner and breeder. If you sold a pup to someone without a licence it would have to be spayed/ neutered. This would mean no inbreeding and no more abandoned untraceable dogs. It would push the price of pets up enormously I would imagine but to me if your willing to pay a larger amount of money for an animal it s out some of the people who buy them on a whim with no knowledge of how to care for them x"

Exactly this!!

I watched a programme on stray dogs in Bucharest recently where they've humanely destroyed circa 60,000 under a scheme imposed after stray dogs killed a child in a park. There's a dog charity also working in the city that is neutering as many as they can and protesting against the government scheme. I feel for the dogs, I feel for the parents of the child killed - but the situation they have is difficult there.

We don't have the same stray problem here thank god but there's certainly too many irresponsible owners, abused dogs and as a result unwanted animals that can often not be rehomed.

It's a people problem. No dog is born dangerous.

A

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Gov is trying to pass a bill that will mean all cat breeders have to be registered, it's called The Cat Welfare bill. I'm really surprised there isn't a corresponding dog one, however if don't think it would make much difference. If someone is going to a use thier dog, they wouldn't bother with licensing or respecting a law not to breed from it.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"The Gov is trying to pass a bill that will mean all cat breeders have to be registered, it's called The Cat Welfare bill. I'm really surprised there isn't a corresponding dog one, however if don't think it would make much difference. If someone is going to a use thier dog, they wouldn't bother with licensing or respecting a law not to breed from it."

No. But if by law dogs had to be microchipped a simple process of providing scanners to dog wardens, PCSO's and police would enable unlicensed, unregistered dogs to be identified and if necessary, removed, neutered and rehomed.

Can't see the point in worry about cats over dogs - I've never seen a story in the media of a child being savaged by a cat.

A

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

Supose its better than abusing people.. Not saying its right just an opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Supose its better than abusing people.. Not saying its right just an opinion"

Personally I see it as the same.

it disgusts me

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Supose its better than abusing people.. Not saying its right just an opinion

Personally I see it as the same.

it disgusts me"

If not in some way worse. Animals don't have the opportunity to notify others of abuse - they rely on others spotting it and acting on concerns. They are reliant on people for food, care and their well being - much like children.

And before anyone points out that this can be true with people - I'm referring to the simple fact they can't speak, dial phone helpline numbers or use the internet!

A

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

The government should never have done away with the need for a dog license. They claimed at the time that it was unnecessary and didn't cover its owm admin costs - I recall thinking at the time that it was necessary and they should increase the fee... if nothing else, to discourage the proliferation of dangerous or abused unregistered dogs. I hold the same view now and would like to see a return of the licence - after all, anyone unwilling to fork out the relatively little amount (compared to the accumulated costs of a dog) to buy a license will probably be unwilling or unable to spend money on vets' bills.

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts


"Supose its better than abusing people.. Not saying its right just an opinion

Personally I see it as the same.

it disgusts me

If not in some way worse. Animals don't have the opportunity to notify others of abuse - they rely on others spotting it and acting on concerns. They are reliant on people for food, care and their well being - much like children.

And before anyone points out that this can be true with people - I'm referring to the simple fact they can't speak, dial phone helpline numbers or use the internet!

A"

Plus the fact that that sick mentality is still there. They do say that people who abuse animals often go on to abuse children/other people. x

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland


"Supose its better than abusing people.. Not saying its right just an opinion

Personally I see it as the same.

it disgusts me

If not in some way worse. Animals don't have the opportunity to notify others of abuse - they rely on others spotting it and acting on concerns. They are reliant on people for food, care and their well being - much like children.

And before anyone points out that this can be true with people - I'm referring to the simple fact they can't speak, dial phone helpline numbers or use the internet!

A"

What a crock of crap.. Total bollox

How can it be better to abuse people than an animal..

Mankind is top of the food chain, we have bigger brains we have better communication skills technology and the world famous opposing thumbs.. Animals are food

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts


"Supose its better than abusing people.. Not saying its right just an opinion

Personally I see it as the same.

it disgusts me

If not in some way worse. Animals don't have the opportunity to notify others of abuse - they rely on others spotting it and acting on concerns. They are reliant on people for food, care and their well being - much like children.

And before anyone points out that this can be true with people - I'm referring to the simple fact they can't speak, dial phone helpline numbers or use the internet!

A

What a crock of crap.. Total bollox

How can it be better to abuse people than an animal..

Mankind is top of the food chain, we have bigger brains we have better communication skills technology and the world famous opposing thumbs.. Animals are food"

That's kind of what they're getting at... We have better communication therefore we can open up and seek help. People who abuse animals do so knowing that they can't tell anyone.

I don't believe one is better or worse than the other. Being supposedly "superior" doesn't give us the right to cause unnecessary suffering to other living creatures.

And as for the food comment, I'm sure we'd still be food if the dinosaurs were still around.

Actually, scratch that, put a man in a cage with a tiger and we'll see what happens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"another dangerous dog programme but why is abusing animals getting such a problem?

bloke let its dog have pups for cash and sold them at four weeks old!!! what is wrong with people?

Its nothing new 40yrs ago people regularly drowned puppies and kittens and beat dogs its sad though some people don't treat their pets better.

true ..our dog was one my mum rescued from an evil woman who was going to drown it "

i have a greyhound that was going in the bucket, he has problems with his back legs so not upto racing standards so the breeder was just going to drown him, they actually saw this as normal and acceptable as they are not pets they are breed to race and make money so a greyhound that cant run is no use to anyone

i took him home, got him fixed up at the vets, had him 4 years this month and he's the best dog ive ever had, he can run and has no problems at all now, he just needed love and some money spent on him

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT


"try watching the news channel for a change .. there's far worse things happening in the world than some geezer selling pups at 4 weeks old"

Sorry not sure how this is relevant?! And I don't see you starting up any threads about the atrocious things which go on everywhere in the world every day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Supose its better than abusing people.. Not saying its right just an opinion

Personally I see it as the same.

it disgusts me"

me too, a life is a life and be it human or animal ( which we also are) abuse is wrong

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

In response to the original post I despise and deplore animal cruelty on any level. Some people are damaged and that leads them to be cruel to other creatures, but in my opinion all life is precious, human or not and should be treated as such. Violence in essentially any form upsets me massively.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Mankind is top of the food chain, we have bigger brains we have better communication skills technology and the world famous opposing thumbs.. Animals are food"

Animals don't abuse each other for their own kicks or through any sense of 'superiority'.

Better communication skills? Debatable in some cases.

As for the 'animals are food' comment - go head to head with certain species and see who ends up as lunch!

Being 'top of the food chain' as you put it comes with responsibilities. Something many seem happy to shirk.

A

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By *uppy ConquerorMan
over a year ago

dundee


"Supose its better than abusing people.. Not saying its right just an opinion

Personally I see it as the same.

it disgusts me

me too, a life is a life and be it human or animal ( which we also are) abuse is wrong"
I threw a spider out my upstairs bedroom window the other day then got worried for it as it was on its way down.Hope it was ok!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Supose its better than abusing people.. Not saying its right just an opinion"

What a ridiculous thing to say!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"another dangerous dog programme but why is abusing animals getting such a problem?

bloke let its dog have pups for cash and sold them at four weeks old!!! what is wrong with people?"

Because they are fucking morons that's why!Its people who need putting down,not dogs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We've rescued most of our cats, one from a guy attempting to drown her, one from a couple who were going to abandon her, and so on.

The sad thing is people don't care about pets the way they should. To us they're our family. They're our kids.

A certain personal ads site is one we hate. The amount of people who have dogs and cats for a month or two and then get bored of them and want rid is shocking.

I think the only possible thing to take from it all is that dogs have been bred for fighting for millennia. Thankfully now there is a spot light on what bit of it still goes on. It's definitely a problem but compared to Victorian times it's a lot better to be a dog today!"

Yep a friend of mine has sold pups after a few weeks coz she was skint, and yet claims she's better off on the dole, but I paid over £200 in tax last month to contribute towards her benefits

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"try watching the news channel for a change .. there's far worse things happening in the world than some geezer selling pups at 4 weeks old"

There is a very strong correlation between animal cruelty, domestic violence and child abuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some folk talk total shite .... Torture , abuse, anything that harms whether dog , cat , person or others is wrong cruell and upsetting for the majority of people..

To pick and say better that being tortured than the other

Try thinking before posting ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"try watching the news channel for a change .. there's far worse things happening in the world than some geezer selling pups at 4 weeks old

do realise that but if people care so little about animals what hope for the human race"

Bit over dramatic isn't it? We've been here for nearly 150 thousand years over that time we've generally improves our treatment of animals.

But seriously far worse happens in our agricultural industry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't panic! The bible says man has "dominion" over animals, so biblically speaking if you want to kick a badgers face off it's alright by the good book.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"try watching the news channel for a change .. there's far worse things happening in the world than some geezer selling pups at 4 weeks old

do realise that but if people care so little about animals what hope for the human race

Bit over dramatic isn't it? We've been here for nearly 150 thousand years over that time we've generally improves our treatment of animals.

But seriously far worse happens in our agricultural industry"

Far worse , especially with the increase in halal and kosher meat .

It's almost laughable to see the crusade of animal rights do gooders who happily sit down to a roast , eat burgers and sausages , and don't give a shit about the equally precious animals slaughtered for their meal !

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Actually, there are far more regs that DEFRA impose on me, than are imposed on the breeders of dogs - all sheep, cattle and pigs must be electronically tagged, for example....

Its to do with traceability in the food chain.

I'm not going to wade into Halal and Kosher slaughter, except to say that approximatley 85% of Halal slaughter is pre-stun (ie, its no different to non-religious slaughter, save a prayer being said) wheras Kosher can never be pre-stun.

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