FabSwingers.com forum: The inevitable return of the 'sex with someone on this thread' thread

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Einstein once said 'Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results', but as THESE threads typically get good results - here's another one x

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By *nigmatic1Woman
over a year ago

A seaside town near you!

Oh go on then...yes please

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"THESE threads typically get good results"

Not for me!

(Can you tell I'm grumpy yet?

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By *ourbonKissMan
over a year ago

a land up north..... of leicester

"THESE threads typically get good results

Not for me!

(Can you tell I'm grumpy yet?

Don't be grumpy, you've an admirer here

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"THESE threads typically get good results

Not for me!

(Can you tell I'm grumpy yet?

)

Don't be grumpy, you've an admirer here

One of these days....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

But Coalville is so far away!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll join, in hope

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

Eeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll try again - see if my luck changes. Lol

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By *ourbonKissMan
over a year ago

a land up north..... of leicester

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

But Coalville is so far away!!

We can meet in the middle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The eternal optomist rides again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

That's it! We're not gonna talk until you're in my room butt naked

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

The forum really does need some fresh faces.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sexyB and Bourbon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

That's it! We're not gonna talk until you're in my room butt naked

on my way...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well if I must name names ...... Sexy and blue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sexybrain x

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

But Coalville is so far away!!

We can meet in the middle"

Sheffield. That's do-able.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"sexyB and Bourbon "

Sexybee has a nice ring to it...you wanna taste my honey? x

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By *issBehavingxxWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nope.... none so far

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sex me up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vat are zee rueles?

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Cute n Sassy

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By *ourbonKissMan
over a year ago

a land up north..... of leicester

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

But Coalville is so far away!!

We can meet in the middle

Sheffield. That's do-able.

I used to live in Sheffield, that's definitely do-able

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

Haven t read the whole thread i m sure theres lots of lovely ladies i d love to meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Feeling frisky so we'll have you all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alas not yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm in, will see who's on the thread...

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"I'm in, will see who's on the thread..."

Here I am sweet cheeks I'm all that you need

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By *ourbonKissMan
over a year ago

a land up north..... of leicester

"I'm in, will see who's on the thread...

Here I am sweet cheeks I'm all that you need

Who could resist that pout

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This thread needs a kick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm in, will see who's on the thread...

Here I am sweet cheeks I'm all that you need

Haha oh hi there

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Any takers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any takers

Its desperation joining one of these threads mate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Miss cheeky chops

Cute n Sassy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mainly women but there's a couple of nice men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Could be and they would know who they are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kissing with Londongirl15....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello, can anyone see me

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Any takers

Its desperation joining one of these threads mate.

Is that so id worry more about your own desperation than mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Miss CC

Dark Edges

So far...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mmmmmm scarlet seduction.....not sure I want to fuck you, but I'd love to kiss your pussy after a session with your dark lover.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sexy, Silky and Bourbon so far ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There maybe

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

Sits twiddling thumbs, waiting, hoping, wondering

IMPATIENTLY

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Manda 10!!x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"THESE threads typically get good results

Not for me!

(Can you tell I'm grumpy yet?

)

Don't be grumpy, you've an admirer here

And another here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dark edges

Cheeky chops

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Patience is a virtue

Good things come to he who waits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

The forum really does need some fresh faces."

In the few weeks I haven't been on here there are new people posting. Maybe they just don't want to post on these type of threads

and to answer the original question ~ yes there is! x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

The forum really does need some fresh faces.

In the few weeks I haven't been on here there are new people posting. Maybe they just don't want to post on these type of threads

and to answer the original question ~ yes there is! x

One more for the road, hello gorgeous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can now add...

Yorkie Duo

Classy Laydee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Classy laydee is on my to do list

I haven't scrolled up enough to see who else is on this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ohhhh found one ...Hello Mr who

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cheekychops and Yorkie duo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cheekychops and Yorkie duo

Hi...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

The forum really does need some fresh faces.

In the few weeks I haven't been on here there are new people posting.

Sadly few of them are female!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 12/08/14 10:10:58]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theres three that stick out for me

Classy laydee

Ligeia

Kelsiemarie

All gorgeous!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pops head in...realises there are a few but very much in demand..and gracefully bows out

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By *hynewguy2012Man
over a year ago

dartford

Petit one

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

Gotta be Mr rgluke 86 and Mr sexy brain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pops in ..... Oh bugger wrong thread.. lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sign me up there's so many wonderful women if I had a chance I'd be spoilt for choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

..oh another has popped up now ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mmmm please book me in for a mr who and sexy brain sarnie

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By *hynewguy2012Man
over a year ago

dartford

After reading the post. All the way through..

There's far too many ladies to list.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"..oh another has popped up now ..

It's you beauties that are making this one pop up ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

The forum really does need some fresh faces.

In the few weeks I haven't been on here there are new people posting.

Sadly few of them are female!

Okay fair point!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Kelsiemarie"

You can only choose from people who've posted in this thread - though if kelsiemarie HAD posted, I'd be on her like a shot - and IN her like a shot!

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By *ubslutSlaveMan
over a year ago

gracechurch street london x

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By *ubslutSlaveMan
over a year ago

gracechurch street london x

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

The forum really does need some fresh faces.

In the few weeks I haven't been on here there are new people posting.

Sadly few of them are female!

Okay fair point!"

Yes please..... Very sexy xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mmmm please book me in for a mr who and sexy brain sarnie"

Hello gorgeous xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who wants us?

Come get us ladies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a quickie am on my break

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mmmm please book me in for a mr who and sexy brain sarnie"

With or without butter?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Who wants us?

Come get us ladies

Miss Kinkycouple would get some lovin' x

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

Rgluke68 and Sexy brain for me please ,Jayne x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Gotta be Mr rgluke 86 and Mr sexy brain

Thanks sugar tits, I think you already know you're on mine lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rgluke68 and Sexy brain for me please ,Jayne x

star you're defo on mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

That's it! We're not gonna talk until you're in my room butt naked

on my way...

I'd choose you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In no particular order.

Wyrdwoman, it could be you.

Manda, it could be you.

Petite one, it could be you.

Enigmatic, it could be you.

And of course Starbeck, it could be you.

In fact it's all of you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mmmm please book me in for a mr who and sexy brain sarnie

With or without butter?

"
sexy brain I will be the filling we wont need butter I will moisten you both

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

"In no particular order.

Wyrdwoman, it could be you.

Manda, it could be you.

Petite one, it could be you.

Enigmatic, it could be you.

And of course Starbeck, it could be you.

In fact it's all of you.

"
should bloody think so lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pops back in

check us out yes we made a forum list at last

Thanks guys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too many to mention lol

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By *3rial Thr1LL3rMan
over a year ago

aberdeenshire

Can I join in again?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Too many to mention lol

Lx"

Ms starbuck

Yorkduo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Too many to mention lol

Lx"

Will you climb into my pokeball

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

Haha

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

Haha

Successful swinging requires four things

1. A mutual attraction

2. A suitable time

3. A suitable place

4. The desire to actually swing and not simply flirt

This sort of thread only deals with 1, and can't always promise the 'mutual' part

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kissing with Londongirl15...."

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By *anglefootedMan
over a year ago

northampton

Hmmmm....I'm in, but going to need some time to look at all you lovely peeps!

(Bingo! A legitimate reason for perving all the profiles!)

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By *3rial Thr1LL3rMan
over a year ago

aberdeenshire

"Hello, can anyone see me

I see you, don't you worry

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

darkestdesire is looking good

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By *ourbonKissMan
over a year ago

a land up north..... of leicester

I would like to add _tarbeck and sassy to my list preferably all at the same time as it would tick an item off my bucket list

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By *3rial Thr1LL3rMan
over a year ago

aberdeenshire

"darkestdesire is looking good "

Thank you, you know I like you too.

If truth be known there are very few females/couples on this thread or the other one that I would turn down. Not because I'm a massive man slut but because you are all attractive in your own ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mmmmm there's a few that have caught my eye

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

Haha

Successful swinging requires four things

1. A mutual attraction

2. A suitable time

3. A suitable place

4. The desire to actually swing and not simply flirt

This sort of thread only deals with 1, and can't always promise the 'mutual' part

I guess being in the same country would help

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By *3rial Thr1LL3rMan
over a year ago

aberdeenshire

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

Haha

Successful swinging requires four things

1. A mutual attraction

2. A suitable time

3. A suitable place

4. The desire to actually swing and not simply flirt

This sort of thread only deals with 1, and can't always promise the 'mutual' part

I guess being in the same country would help

It would but shouldn't rule out shenanigans altogether. My list just got bigger too

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By *s_bettyboopWoman
over a year ago

-3

Go on then...hmm darkest desire that bum sways me...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

Haha

Successful swinging requires four things

1. A mutual attraction

2. A suitable time

3. A suitable place

4. The desire to actually swing and not simply flirt

This sort of thread only deals with 1, and can't always promise the 'mutual' part

I guess being in the same country would help

Geographical inconvenience is often a factor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More then a few of the list,

And distance is were a hotel come in handy

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

Haha

Successful swinging requires four things

1. A mutual attraction

2. A suitable time

3. A suitable place

4. The desire to actually swing and not simply flirt

This sort of thread only deals with 1, and can't always promise the 'mutual' part

I guess being in the same country would help

Geographical inconvenience is often a factor."

dam!!! Think a few of you should move over here! !

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By *ourbonKissMan
over a year ago

a land up north..... of leicester

"surely these threads are always the same people wanting sex with the same people?.....stop talking about it and do it already

Haha

Successful swinging requires four things

1. A mutual attraction

2. A suitable time

3. A suitable place

4. The desire to actually swing and not simply flirt

This sort of thread only deals with 1, and can't always promise the 'mutual' part

I guess being in the same country would help

Geographical inconvenience is often a factor.

dam!!! Think a few of you should move over here! !

It would be easier if you moved over here, somewhere centrally too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. No one

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By *nigmatic1Woman
over a year ago

A seaside town near you!

Everyone's too far away from me

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By *3rial Thr1LL3rMan
over a year ago

aberdeenshire

"Everyone's too far away from me

And such a shame that is too

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By *nigmatic1Woman
over a year ago

A seaside town near you!

"Everyone's too far away from me

And such a shame that is too

I know...boo hoo!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmm still thinking...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite a few that I would

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By *anglefootedMan
over a year ago

northampton

"Nope. No one "

Oh the rejection! How ever will I cope???? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

) "

Anno you look the sort who'd be satisfying in the bedroom, the sexual equivalent of coffee and a Danish pastry

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

'Anna' even.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

)

Anno you look the sort who'd be satisfying in the bedroom, the sexual equivalent of coffee and a Danish pastry

You can't have Danish pastry in the bedroom, the crumbs would be horrendous.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

)

Anno you look the sort who'd be satisfying in the bedroom, the sexual equivalent of coffee and a Danish pastry

You can't have Danish pastry in the bedroom, the crumbs would be horrendous. "

I didn't say you had to eat the pastry in the bedroom, though if it came to that you could always use a towel to take care of the crumbs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

)

Anno you look the sort who'd be satisfying in the bedroom, the sexual equivalent of coffee and a Danish pastry

You can't have Danish pastry in the bedroom, the crumbs would be horrendous.

I didn't say you had to eat the pastry in the bedroom, though if it came to that you could always use a towel to take care of the crumbs."

Oh alright then, you bring the pastry I'll bring the towel

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

)

Anno you look the sort who'd be satisfying in the bedroom, the sexual equivalent of coffee and a Danish pastry

You can't have Danish pastry in the bedroom, the crumbs would be horrendous.

I didn't say you had to eat the pastry in the bedroom, though if it came to that you could always use a towel to take care of the crumbs.

Oh alright then, you bring the pastry I'll bring the towel "

Better make it two towels, I have a big appetite x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm out , it seems.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Orgy!?!? Ha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

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Yes.

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over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

)

Yes."

Dammit.

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over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

)

Yes.

Dammit."

If it helps I'd very much like to do it again...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely a couple that have caught my eye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

)

Yes.

Dammit.

If it helps I'd very much like to do it again...

It ruins the illusion if it's real though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

)

Yes.

Dammit.

If it helps I'd very much like to do it again...

It ruins the illusion if it's real though

The original thread asked who you'd like to have sex with, it made no distinction of whether you already had or not though.

For balance though I've added you to my list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anna999uk goes on my list

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Definitely a couple that have caught my eye

Hmmm, those lips look kissable x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have a question: has anyone on any of these threads ever actually had sex with each other?

(I kind of hope the answer is no, feels like it would spoil the fun otherwise

)

Yes.

Dammit.

If it helps I'd very much like to do it again...

It ruins the illusion if it's real though

The original thread asked who you'd like to have sex with, it made no distinction of whether you already had or not though.

For balance though I've added you to my list

I wasn't questioning the rules!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually quite a few ladies would make the list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just popping in for a look

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just popping in for a look

and straight on the list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

few nice girls/couples on here who i would jelly leg to be honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im here im going to have a good nosey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The lovey Classy Laydee of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perve alert

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The lovey Classy Laydee of course "

Haha ~ right back at ya

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The female half of kinkycouple1991 mmm...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh crumbs....sexy brain please xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So many to list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's definitely a few we would like to x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There's definitely a few we would like to x"

Oh and Mrs Nortyair of course, lets see if those lips taste as good as they look x

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By *o new WinksMan
over a year ago

BSE

All the usual suspects who I have voiced my desire for personally plus a few new faces to me.

So many hot ladies in couples here that I am envious of married men...for the first time in my life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well hello ladies

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over a year ago

"All the usual suspects who I have voiced my desire for personally plus a few new faces to me.

So many hot ladies in couples here that I am envious of married men...for the first time in my life

You'll forget all about us this weekend, you'll be too busy partying!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's definitely a few we would like to x

Oh and Mrs Nortyair of course, lets see if those lips taste as good as they look x"

Have a strawberry lip gloss you may like x

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over a year ago

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By *overs14Couple
over a year ago

norwich

Too many sexy people to list them all x

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. No one "

Ooooooh elloooo sweet cheeks

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

Could I have sexy brain. .ejay.. luke and 11" wonder. ... Just for me? ? I'm feeling a little greedy this morning. .. Though I could share a little. .

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over a year ago

"Could I have sexy brain. .ejay.. luke and 11" wonder. ... Just for me? ? I'm feeling a little greedy this morning. .. Though I could share a little. .

Hey leave some for everyone else

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By *eforfuncplCouple
over a year ago

Morecambe

Oh decisions decisions xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could I have sexy brain. .ejay.. luke and 11" wonder. ... Just for me? ? I'm feeling a little greedy this morning. .. Though I could share a little. .

haha!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So many hot ladies to choose from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After scrolling thoroughly through the thread it seems there are quite a few delicious cakes I'd love to spread my icing on.

Choice eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could I have sexy brain. .ejay.. luke and 11" wonder. ... Just for me? ? I'm feeling a little greedy this morning. .. Though I could share a little. .

You have great taste

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too much choice. All gorgeous women!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

- waiting here patiently lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"- waiting here patiently lol

Dont think you will be waiting long to be snapped up by someone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sultry most definitely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm terrible at making decisions :p

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm terrible at making decisions :p "

on the list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are defo more than a handful that I'd like the pleasure of

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love a Latin username

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure, I'd have to meet people to be able to tell...

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