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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I know this is serious for a Sumday Afternoon but just been watching the news surely it just has to stop ! End of ! I don't care who is right or wrong people on both sides and yes I know it's a one sided fight should not live and die like this ! The Yanks could stop this now if they wanted to ! The se as the Russians could stop the fighting in the Ukraine ! Why Can't all countries in the World just Grow up an be nice to each other ? Is it really too much to Ask ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it was any other country doing the offense. The whole world would go crazy.

Over a 1000 dead in Gaza. Mostly children. Yesterday a baby was born whilst the mother was dead. How can you kill a pregnant woman? Doesn't get sadder than that. How will you explain to that child that they can never see their mother?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I do think Thier is an element of the Israeli getting away with it not just because of the USA but because of the suffering of the Holocaust ! Two Wrongs do not make a Right !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do think Thier is an element of the Israeli getting away with it not just because of the USA but because of the suffering of the Holocaust ! Two Wrongs do not make a Right ! "

Confused.com What does the holocaust have to do with it? Hamas kidnapped and murdered 3 innocent Jewish boys, this is what started the current unpleasantness. Israel wanted to extend the ceasefire but Hamas replied by firing rockets into Israel. The Middle East knows that Isreal will reply 3 fold every time they are attacked, when will they learn?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'm not defending Hamas ! My point about the holocaust was I think people are scared to criticise Israel because of the suffering the Jews have had ! But can you imagine the world outrage if the UK had dealt with the IRA the same way Israel deals with Hamas ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do think Thier is an element of the Israeli getting away with it not just because of the USA but because of the suffering of the Holocaust ! Two Wrongs do not make a Right !

Confused.com What does the holocaust have to do with it? Hamas kidnapped and murdered 3 innocent Jewish boys, this is what started the current unpleasantness. Israel wanted to extend the ceasefire but Hamas replied by firing rockets into Israel. The Middle East knows that Isreal will reply 3 fold every time they are attacked, when will they learn?"

WRONG!!

It was not Hamas that kidnapped the boys. The Israeli forces have confirmed that it was rogue men who kidnapped the boys.

And let's be honest. The rockets fired from Gaza do fuck all to Israel. Their rockets aren't even a drop in the ocean compared to Israel's rockets. Their rockets land in fields and barely injure anyone. Whereas Israel is having a blast blowing up hospitals, schools and so forth.

The real victim here is not Israel. Oh, and did you see how they started the truce? By wiping out one whole community. What a way to start a truce.

Let's keep an openmind and not fall for all this zionist propaganda. The true criminals here are Israel.

Have you read about what they have been doing to Ethiopian women all these years if they were to take refuge in Israel? It's all coming out now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not defending Hamas ! My point about the holocaust was I think people are scared to criticise Israel because of the suffering the Jews have had ! But can you imagine the world outrage if the UK had dealt with the IRA the same way Israel deals with Hamas ? "

The Current conflict is about Israel not Judaism, hamas is a Terrorist organization that is using the palestinian people as a Shield, Should Israel Hold fire and take the constant missile fire because palestinian citizens may be caught up in the crossfire ?

What would we want our Government to do if it happened here.

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now, you started me off. Did you see how the people of Israel think this is all a spectator sport and having a whale of a time pulling up their deck chairs on the mountains and cheering everytime a rocket falls on Gaza or everytime they hear an explosion.

You're telling me that's normal. All you have to do is look at the news reporters from both sides to see who is at a real risk. The ones in Gaza all covered in protective wear whereas those in Israel are in shorts and tshirt without a worry in the world.

That's evidence enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Now, you started me off. Did you see how the people of Israel think this is all a spectator sport and having a whale of a time pulling up their deck chairs on the mountains and cheering everytime a rocket falls on Gaza or everytime they hear an explosion.

You're telling me that's normal. All you have to do is look at the news reporters from both sides to see who is at a real risk. The ones in Gaza all covered in protective wear whereas those in Israel are in shorts and tshirt without a worry in the world.

That's evidence enough.

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Not saying its normal at all pops and im certainly not going to try and defend those that are gloating over the Bombings.

Gimp

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I'm not defending Hamas ! My point about the holocaust was I think people are scared to criticise Israel because of the suffering the Jews have had ! But can you imagine the world outrage if the UK had dealt with the IRA the same way Israel deals with Hamas ? "

Please don't confuse the actions of the state of Israel with the Jewish religion.

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By *uppy ConquerorMan
over a year ago

dundee


"I do think Thier is an element of the Israeli getting away with it not just because of the USA but because of the suffering of the Holocaust ! Two Wrongs do not make a Right !

Confused.com What does the holocaust have to do with it? Hamas kidnapped and murdered 3 innocent Jewish boys, this is what started the current unpleasantness. Israel wanted to extend the ceasefire but Hamas replied by firing rockets into Israel. The Middle East knows that Isreal will reply 3 fold every time they are attacked, when will they learn?

WRONG!!

It was not Hamas that kidnapped the boys. The Israeli forces have confirmed that it was rogue men who kidnapped the boys.

And let's be honest. The rockets fired from Gaza do fuck all to Israel. Their rockets aren't even a drop in the ocean compared to Israel's rockets. Their rockets land in fields and barely injure anyone. Whereas Israel is having a blast blowing up hospitals, schools and so forth.

The real victim here is not Israel. Oh, and did you see how they started the truce? By wiping out one whole community. What a way to start a truce.

Let's keep an openmind and not fall for all this zionist propaganda. The true criminals here are Israel.

Have you read about what they have been doing to Ethiopian women all these years if they were to take refuge in Israel? It's all coming out now.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many people know that it was Britain that brokered the deal with Palestine after WWII to create the state of Israel? How many know that it was originally from the outset meant to be two states that were equal but then the entire international community refused to acknowledge Palestine as a state?

Re the propoganda used to influence by keeping sentiment and sympathy about the holocaust alive.... How many know that hitler didn't only hate jews, but also sentenced other sectors of society to the same fate as those of Jewish origin? How many know that the holocaust of WWII is NOT the biggest act of genocide in history? How many know that more Soviet soldiers died in WWII than Jewish people in the camps?

Re 'the yanks' putting a stop to it all.. How, exactly? Firstly, many who decry that the u.s. should stop it all will in another breath state that America should not 'police the world', as its not their place. You can't have it both ways on that. Secondly, Israel is a nuclear armed sovereign state and is under zero obligation to follow the dictates of the u.s. or any other power. If the u.s. stops sending arms, Israel will manufacture their own or get them elsewhere. No, the United Nations cannot stop this, either. There is no authority to impose the will of the UN against a state in a situation like this, particularly since the charter hasn't been fulfilled by a standing army. Collective security, which is what the UN is, relies solely on the member states agreeing and upholding their agreement but when that fails it cannot enforce anything. It is then down to states themselves to act in their own interest.

In this situation, both sides have acted badly, as well as the international community as a whole. The current state has descended into the madness of cracking open a beer and cheering the strikes or stripping off and posting nude pics in support of widespread death. Neither side has clean hands but they're both Gonna have to wash their hands and move forward together or the will be no peace. Personally i think that there are elements on both sides that decidedly do not want peace but most people do. I really hope that someday soon they're able you find it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank fuck someone knows what's really been happening.

One particular quote just gives me the shivers. You know how they used to say 'Palestine is a land without any people and the Jews are a people without a land'. How could they say that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The Post from Earnmenow ! Is spot on I wish I could have put it all like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thank fuck someone knows what's really been happening.

One particular quote just gives me the shivers. You know how they used to say 'Palestine is a land without any people and the Jews are a people without a land'. How could they say that?

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I actually hadn't heard that quote. I find it disturbing that that was said, though given the situation i cannot say that I'm surprised by the attitudes my fellow 'human beings' are able to espouse at times.

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