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"Ok i just seen an Ad for this on Channel5.. A toddler showing off her tan lines.... " That's a fine line. | |||
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"How can this be legal??" It's because the law us so very vague. If someone can demonstrate that the child has suffered then it would be illegal. | |||
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"My children have tan lines. Is that abuse now?" wasn't meant for the tan lines as such,it was the blinging,makeup,manicures,heels on shoes ect,childhoodi s short enough without sexing up the kids | |||
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"My children have tan lines. Is that abuse now?wasn't meant for the tan lines as such,it was the blinging,makeup,manicures,heels on shoes ect,childhoodi s short enough without sexing up the kids Kids wanna be like adults. Doesn't (shouldn't) have anything to do with sex." that's an _xpression,but when your making 6 and 7 year old look like little madonnas,and having makeup parties for kids and fake tanning them etc its not encouraging them to have a childhood,its encouraging them to be little adults,why would you want to do that to a child | |||
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"My children have tan lines. Is that abuse now?wasn't meant for the tan lines as such,it was the blinging,makeup,manicures,heels on shoes ect,childhoodi s short enough without sexing up the kids Kids wanna be like adults. Doesn't (shouldn't) have anything to do with sex.that's an _xpression,but when your making 6 and 7 year old look like little madonnas,and having makeup parties for kids and fake tanning them etc its not encouraging them to have a childhood,its encouraging them to be little adults,why would you want to do that to a child" I dunno, people are weird. I still see no need to bring sex into it. | |||
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"My children have tan lines. Is that abuse now?wasn't meant for the tan lines as such,it was the blinging,makeup,manicures,heels on shoes ect,childhoodi s short enough without sexing up the kids Kids wanna be like adults. Doesn't (shouldn't) have anything to do with sex.that's an _xpression,but when your making 6 and 7 year old look like little madonnas,and having makeup parties for kids and fake tanning them etc its not encouraging them to have a childhood,its encouraging them to be little adults,why would you want to do that to a child I dunno, people are weird. I still see no need to bring sex into it." as I said it was just an _xpression,but a child made up to be a women is going to turn some perv on | |||
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"My children have tan lines. Is that abuse now?wasn't meant for the tan lines as such,it was the blinging,makeup,manicures,heels on shoes ect,childhoodi s short enough without sexing up the kids Kids wanna be like adults. Doesn't (shouldn't) have anything to do with sex.that's an _xpression,but when your making 6 and 7 year old look like little madonnas,and having makeup parties for kids and fake tanning them etc its not encouraging them to have a childhood,its encouraging them to be little adults,why would you want to do that to a child I dunno, people are weird. I still see no need to bring sex into it.as I said it was just an _xpression,but a child made up to be a women is going to turn some perv on" Isn't that the same argument that somebody dressed provocatively is 'asking for it'? My children are often naked, that isn't some sort of sexual invitation, that's children doing normal child stuff. Sometimes they dress up in their mums clothes - again child stuff. A pervert is exactly as described. Perverted. | |||
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"My children have tan lines. Is that abuse now?wasn't meant for the tan lines as such,it was the blinging,makeup,manicures,heels on shoes ect,childhoodi s short enough without sexing up the kids Kids wanna be like adults. Doesn't (shouldn't) have anything to do with sex.that's an _xpression,but when your making 6 and 7 year old look like little madonnas,and having makeup parties for kids and fake tanning them etc its not encouraging them to have a childhood,its encouraging them to be little adults,why would you want to do that to a child I dunno, people are weird. I still see no need to bring sex into it.as I said it was just an _xpression,but a child made up to be a women is going to turn some perv on Isn't that the same argument that somebody dressed provocatively is 'asking for it'? My children are often naked, that isn't some sort of sexual invitation, that's children doing normal child stuff. Sometimes they dress up in their mums clothes - again child stuff. " Is there a difference between what a child does quite naturally, and the commercialisation of similar behaviour for the profit of an ad agency and broadcaster? Would you be quite happy to pimp out your kids? | |||
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"My children have tan lines. Is that abuse now?wasn't meant for the tan lines as such,it was the blinging,makeup,manicures,heels on shoes ect,childhoodi s short enough without sexing up the kids Kids wanna be like adults. Doesn't (shouldn't) have anything to do with sex.that's an _xpression,but when your making 6 and 7 year old look like little madonnas,and having makeup parties for kids and fake tanning them etc its not encouraging them to have a childhood,its encouraging them to be little adults,why would you want to do that to a child I dunno, people are weird. I still see no need to bring sex into it.as I said it was just an _xpression,but a child made up to be a women is going to turn some perv on Isn't that the same argument that somebody dressed provocatively is 'asking for it'? My children are often naked, that isn't some sort of sexual invitation, that's children doing normal child stuff. Sometimes they dress up in their mums clothes - again child stuff. A pervert is exactly as described. Perverted." so did mine that's normal childhood behaviour,but that's not what I was talking about,i thought that was obvious | |||
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"My children have tan lines. Is that abuse now?wasn't meant for the tan lines as such,it was the blinging,makeup,manicures,heels on shoes ect,childhoodi s short enough without sexing up the kids " | |||
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"If you get off on kids in a sexual way you're sick. No excuses. No 'they were sexed up' or anything else, it's all to do with you. If I see a kid messing about dancing 'sexily' because they see it on TV or whatever that isn't actually sexy, that's a kid messing about. If you can't separate it I think you have serious issues." I think you haven't read what I have been saying,or you have deliberately taken it the wrong way to cause an argument,either way I think im done talking to you | |||
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"If you get off on kids in a sexual way you're sick. No excuses. No 'they were sexed up' or anything else, it's all to do with you. If I see a kid messing about dancing 'sexily' because they see it on TV or whatever that isn't actually sexy, that's a kid messing about. If you can't separate it I think you have serious issues.I think you haven't read what I have been saying,or you have deliberately taken it the wrong way to cause an argument,either way I think im done talking to you" No I've read it all back and I think I'm correct in thinking it was the same sort of bullshit they write in tabloids. | |||
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"Think its a tad extreme but what young girl wouldnt want to play dress up and be like mummy.. i know friends who host princess make over partys, nails, make up and hair styling.. all the kids love it" I have no problem with girls having a make over, that is normal, its when parents get pushy and force their kids to be these beauty queens, I don't like that, theres a clip on utube of a woman pinning her little girl down while they wax her eye brows, the kids screams and fighting to get away from these two adult who are abusing her, and in my opinion that is abuse | |||
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"You can look at it the other way. A pervert will do perverted things regardless of how their victim looks or behaves. If you 'de sexify' your child does that mean they're safe? What nonsense." Really ? Unless Clinical Psychologists have been wrong for thirty years there are many types of Peadophiles with different tastes so why risk temptation by putting in their face. Gimp | |||
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"Think its a tad extreme but what young girl wouldnt want to play dress up and be like mummy.. i know friends who host princess make over partys, nails, make up and hair styling.. all the kids love it I have no problem with girls having a make over, that is normal, its when parents get pushy and force their kids to be these beauty queens, I don't like that, theres a clip on utube of a woman pinning her little girl down while they wax her eye brows, the kids screams and fighting to get away from these two adult who are abusing her, and in my opinion that is abuse " I don't like that but you could make the same argument in lots of ways. Kids being pushed too hard in sport etc. | |||
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"You can look at it the other way. A pervert will do perverted things regardless of how their victim looks or behaves. If you 'de sexify' your child does that mean they're safe? What nonsense. Really ? Unless Clinical Psychologists have been wrong for thirty years there are many types of Peadophiles with different tastes so why risk temptation by putting in their face. Gimp" Which is why I have always been against talking about kids on here, but hey ho, people will still do it. | |||
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"Think its a tad extreme but what young girl wouldnt want to play dress up and be like mummy.. i know friends who host princess make over partys, nails, make up and hair styling.. all the kids love it I have no problem with girls having a make over, that is normal, its when parents get pushy and force their kids to be these beauty queens, I don't like that, theres a clip on utube of a woman pinning her little girl down while they wax her eye brows, the kids screams and fighting to get away from these two adult who are abusing her, and in my opinion that is abuse I don't like that but you could make the same argument in lots of ways. Kids being pushed too hard in sport etc. " Kids being pushed too hard in sport arnt that likely to get raped photographed and murdered though are they because they tend to have Parental supervision at all times. Gimp | |||
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"Teenage girls will proberly rebel and go to their friends to put it on, or do their hair. Kids play dressing up Indoors, all part of growing up. These pagent kids are something quite different, I can't understand the parents doing that to them. Her" in my opinion and this is of course only an opinion but I think a lot of mothers live their past dreams through their kids | |||
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"You can look at it the other way. A pervert will do perverted things regardless of how their victim looks or behaves. If you 'de sexify' your child does that mean they're safe? What nonsense. Really ? Unless Clinical Psychologists have been wrong for thirty years there are many types of Peadophiles with different tastes so why risk temptation by putting in their face. Gimp" You and the other person have been making an argument that suggests if a child is dressed or acts a certain way then it's tantamount to encouraging paedophillia. In my opinion that is bullshit. A child molester is somebody with a sick interest in children, with or without whatever children wear they will still have a sick interest in children. By your argument you should never let a child out of sight. | |||
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"Think its a tad extreme but what young girl wouldnt want to play dress up and be like mummy.. i know friends who host princess make over partys, nails, make up and hair styling.. all the kids love it I have no problem with girls having a make over, that is normal, its when parents get pushy and force their kids to be these beauty queens, I don't like that, theres a clip on utube of a woman pinning her little girl down while they wax her eye brows, the kids screams and fighting to get away from these two adult who are abusing her, and in my opinion that is abuse I don't like that but you could make the same argument in lots of ways. Kids being pushed too hard in sport etc. Kids being pushed too hard in sport arnt that likely to get raped photographed and murdered though are they because they tend to have Parental supervision at all times. Gimp" Sadly untrue, the culprits are frequently the sports coaches. | |||
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"Teenage girls will proberly rebel and go to their friends to put it on, or do their hair. Kids play dressing up Indoors, all part of growing up. These pagent kids are something quite different, I can't understand the parents doing that to them. Her in my opinion and this is of course only an opinion but I think a lot of mothers live their past dreams through their kids" yes, what they didn't do ect, I have not stopped the make up thing for my above reasons, but your right their dreams come out in the kids. Her | |||
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"You can look at it the other way. A pervert will do perverted things regardless of how their victim looks or behaves. If you 'de sexify' your child does that mean they're safe? What nonsense. Really ? Unless Clinical Psychologists have been wrong for thirty years there are many types of Peadophiles with different tastes so why risk temptation by putting in their face. Gimp You and the other person have been making an argument that suggests if a child is dressed or acts a certain way then it's tantamount to encouraging paedophillia. In my opinion that is bullshit. A child molester is somebody with a sick interest in children, with or without whatever children wear they will still have a sick interest in children. By your argument you should never let a child out of sight." Agreed at last, My Children were never out of sight unless accompanied by another Child's parent or a member of my Family | |||
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"Agreed at last, My Children were never out of sight unless accompanied by another Child's parent or a member of my Family" I'm not agreeing with you and if you knew anything of child abuse those are the people you'd trust least of all. | |||
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"ubcomfortable watching ... more the parents than the kids its like these beauty pagents ..... they should be allowed to be children" | |||
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"my grandson had a t shirt and shorts on today but everyone commented on how cute he is... if they are cute they are cute without dressing them up" i agree when my girls were toddlers they were nothing but perfect to me, they didn't need fake tans, make up and hair dying because you cant improve on perfection | |||
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"Fuck sake A five year old gyrating on stage in a hooters outfit !! " boils my fucking piss.. | |||
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"Ok i just seen an Ad for this on Channel5.. A toddler showing off her tan lines.... " I didn't see it so can only go by what I read. I don't see the problem. All my children have tan lines. It's normal. (Yes I always use sun cream)The fact she likes to boast about them is a bit odd. But I suppose she has heard other grown ups doing it and is just imitating them. I know plenty of grown who say look at my tan lines when they have caught the sun. | |||
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"Ok i just seen an Ad for this on Channel5.. A toddler showing off her tan lines.... I didn't see it so can only go by what I read. I don't see the problem. All my children have tan lines. It's normal. (Yes I always use sun cream)The fact she likes to boast about them is a bit odd. But I suppose she has heard other grown ups doing it and is just imitating them. I know plenty of grown who say look at my tan lines when they have caught the sun." could be wrong, but tan lines from a healthy child playing outside and obtaining a natural tan is fine.. but these tan lines were because she just had a fake tan and think thats what the actual issue was | |||
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"Fuck sake A five year old gyrating on stage in a hooters outfit !! boils my fucking piss.. " ^^^^^^ what she said, I'm speechless. | |||
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"I've not watched this. I saw it advertised, and have watched similar in the past... So knew it wasn't for me, and it would just make me seethe. These women, are unfit, and pathetic. I think it's very sad, and dispicable, but that's just my humble opinion. If I had my way, they'd be hung drawn and quartered. Kids love playing dress up especially, little girls... There is no comparison, what's so ever. The two are poles apart! " I agree. Can't watch it either, it'll just piss me off. Horrible women. | |||
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"Ok i just seen an Ad for this on Channel5.. A toddler showing off her tan lines.... I didn't see it so can only go by what I read. I don't see the problem. All my children have tan lines. It's normal. (Yes I always use sun cream)The fact she likes to boast about them is a bit odd. But I suppose she has heard other grown ups doing it and is just imitating them. I know plenty of grown who say look at my tan lines when they have caught the sun. could be wrong, but tan lines from a healthy child playing outside and obtaining a natural tan is fine.. but these tan lines were because she just had a fake tan and think thats what the actual issue was " Fake tan. Now that's just odd. Why would you spray tan your tot. | |||
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"You can look at it the other way. A pervert will do perverted things regardless of how their victim looks or behaves. If you 'de sexify' your child does that mean they're safe? What nonsense. Really ? Unless Clinical Psychologists have been wrong for thirty years there are many types of Peadophiles with different tastes so why risk temptation by putting in their face. GimpWhich is why I have always been against talking about kids on here, but hey ho, people will still do it." Very good point. | |||
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"I've worked in child protection. Believe me there's hardly any truth to 'stranger danger' in fact that attitude has lulled us into a false sense of security. Most perpetrators are members of the family, friends of the family or parents of kids friends or a trusted person in authority. Because paedos aren't stupid. They'll happily give up their time and effort to volunteering for youth groups eg to enable them access to children. The real problem with hypersexualising children is that children learn from imitation and response. Dressing them like little adults means they're more likely to behave as they see adults behave. Eg flirting. Children that are allowed or even encouraged to look adult in a sexual way are more likely to lose their virginity young, catch sti's, be sexually exploited and have unplanned pregnancy. Many studies bear this out. In addition spray tan has recently been found to be carcinogenic when inhaled (would you trust a 5 yr old to hold their breath for any length of time) and high heels before the feet are properly developed can lead to permanent disfigurement and back problems. So in my personal view it should be classed as child abuse and the parents told to cease, attend an appropriate course teaching them why it's inappropriate and if they continue the children being removed should be considered and investigate the family. " | |||
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