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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Does anyone think its actually time for England to leave the UK never mind Scotland ! And what's the betting if we did they would want to stay in it !

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Surprised ! I was expecting a lot of stick but not expecting no posts !

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

Who would want to stay in it?

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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago

moved to cuckold land

Surely whether england scotland wales or northern ireland went independent then you no longer have an UNITED Kingdom

If the kingdom is the 4 countries and one leaves then they are no longer United

Just an observstion

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The above makes a good point ! So if that I's the case shouldn't all four home nations get a vote and not just the scots !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surprised ! I was expecting a lot of stick but not expecting no posts !

Maybe it's because it's a question that makes little sense?

England are in effect the 'lead' part of the UK. It has the capital city, the parliament, the monarchy... England couldn't leave the UK even if it wanted too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surprised ! I was expecting a lot of stick but not expecting no posts !

Maybe it's because it's a question that makes little sense?

England are in effect the 'lead' part of the UK. It has the capital city, the parliament, the monarchy... England couldn't leave the UK even if it wanted too"

Not so the constitution refers to all four parts as equal so it could leave theoretically the same as Scotland can the debate would then be is whats left still a united kingdom.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I would vote for England to go alone if we had chance

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

Ok i can see the argument for this BUT surly this is a pisstake.. Its not like it hurts being part of Great Britain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would vote for England to go alone if we had chance

Why?

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

"I would vote for England to go alone if we had chance

why??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you look at the historical documents, the United Kingdom is only made up of the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England. Hence if 1 leaves there is no United Kingdom in reality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a Viking orgy were on offer I would vote for the independence of the once great nation of Mercia.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you look at the historical documents, the United Kingdom is only made up of the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England. Hence if 1 leaves there is no United Kingdom in reality.

That would be because Wales was classed as England.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For to long England has taken the abuse of the other home nations. Non other than Northern Ireland have anything good to say about the English, so I say let them leave, we should have our own independence.

Because non of the other home countries are in Europe, all those living in England should then need a working visa or risk deportation.

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

"For to long England has taken the abuse of the other home nations. Non other than Northern Ireland have anything good to say about the English, so I say let them leave, we should have our own independence.

Because non of the other home countries are in Europe, all those living in England should then need a working visa or risk deportation.

obviously you know no one who comes from Northern Ireland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Independance for LONDON (or within M25)

We have to pay for the rest of the UK!

That should liven things up a bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Independance for LONDON (or within M25)

We have to pay for the rest of the UK!

That should liven things up a bit.

You won't get many from outside London disagreeing with that.

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

"Independance for LONDON (or within M25)

We have to pay for the rest of the UK!

That should liven things up a bit.

yeah id gladly build a wall around the M25..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well it was slow but it did light up a bit

And yes I am serious

I would want us to be four friendly countries but I do believe we are seperatate nations and its Wrong that only Scotland had a say

ps o know someone will mention Cornwall at some point ! And historically they could have a point I wouldn't object

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When was Cornwall ever a country?

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

Because non of the other home countries are in Europe, all those living in England should then need a working visa or risk deportation.

Oh bless your wee cotton socks, have those nasty "Jocks" and "Taffs" being bullying you again?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scotland dont seem to realise they wont manage on their own.

I dont particularly want "English independance " but what I hate is that Scottish MPs vote on matters that only affect England, so at least if Scotland breaks away that will stop.

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

"Scotland dont seem to realise they wont manage on their own.

I dont particularly want "English independance " but what I hate is that Scottish MPs vote on matters that only affect England, so at least if Scotland breaks away that will stop."

And how many Scottish conservatives MPs are they? With regards to Scotland 'managing, you are obviously an expert like so many!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't mind and am happy for Scotland to choose but once the choice is made I hope people shut the fuck up about it and the sooner it's done the better.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The point is , it will affect us all so we all shud have a say

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Take this topic DOWN I dont want the MP's to see it.

I love free prescriptions. 5p on carrier bags isnt a problem

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lol

ye I wouldn't mind them aswell

still I had my way you could keep them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

England are in effect the 'lead' part of the UK. It has the capital city, the parliament, the monarchy... England couldn't leave the UK even if it wanted too

To answer the above you're probably right about England leading the way on many fronts, but without being picky, London is the capital of England, not the other countries, each of whom have their own capital city.

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

If we can get Scotland, NI, Wales and London to declare independence then we might be getting somewhere!

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

Oh yeah, we could build a wall north of Newcastle and a dyke west of Shrewsbury and keep the heathens out lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If we can get Scotland, NI, Wales and London to declare independence then we might be getting somewhere!"

We'll keep Gibraltar though

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Slow burner topic

but it is getting there ! Time for some petrol

has anyone not sinuses if Scotland do get independence we will always have a conservative government in England !

let the fireworks begin

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Meant to say sussed ! Sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you look at the historical documents, the United Kingdom is only made up of the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England. Hence if 1 leaves there is no United Kingdom in reality.

That would be because Wales was classed as England."

Isn't Wales a principality so could not be part of a united Kingdom?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This might liven things up?

What about an Independant Yorkshire?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Slow burner topic

but it is getting there ! Time for some petrol

has anyone not sinuses if Scotland do get independence we will always have a conservative government in England !

let the fireworks begin

I don't think anyone had sussed that, I reckon you're the first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

Antagonistic key board warrier post me finks......or someone who wants a bit attention.....

Walks away whistling thinking poor lad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't Wales a principality so could not be part of a united Kingdom?. "

Thanks most hilarious post in this thread

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

Independent Devon...possibly independent Torbay...ideally independent our farm...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just look at what the scottish knobheads in the labour party did to the country last time they were in. Nuff said

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lol

nah I'm no keyboard warrior

I like a laugh but I am serious ! Why is it daft for England to go alone but not seen as a joke for Scotland to ?

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

"If we can get Scotland, NI, Wales and London to declare independence then we might be getting somewhere!

We'll keep Gibraltar though"

Why the fuck would you want to keep Gib? Lived there for three years and couldn't believe the corruption.

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By *highbootMan
over a year ago

margate

UKIP will have to change its name to EIP!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

That's the problem tho

if we had an ENP ( English national party ) it would immediately be acused of been Racist ! Yet the Scottish and Welsh National parties arnt !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Independence for Wessex! Long have we suffered under the oppressive yoke of our Lundinium overlords

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lol

I thought the new Forrest was in Hampshire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If we can get Scotland, NI, Wales and London to declare independence then we might be getting somewhere!

We'll keep Gibraltar though

Why the fuck would you want to keep Gib? Lived there for three years and couldn't believe the corruption. "

That was intended as irony..

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

Fuck This..

F.R.Y..

Its a goer it has to be fuck Britain we need our independence

Federal Republic of Yorkshire..

it the jocks have it we need it piss off London we vote for the house of York

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lol

I thought the new Forrest was in Hampshire

It is - Wessex was Berkshire,Dorset, Hampshire and Wiltshire plus a couple of other counties at various times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Independance for LONDON (or within M25)

We have to pay for the rest of the UK!

That should liven things up a bit.

Agreed forthwith oh and then you can pay for your own £15 billion railway rather than the taxpayers throughout the rest of the UK subsidising it. As for paying for the rest of the UK, hmmm the city of London was the cause of virtually bankrupting the UK in 2008 and required multi billions to bail out the banks from the rest of the UK taxpayers too. I think you'll find that about 10% of the UK's money comes from London which means 90% comes from the rest of us and boy do you get your fair share back in transportation links, museums capital investment etc. The best bit of all you can keep your yobbo Boris too...

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"That's the problem tho

if we had an ENP ( English national party ) it would immediately be acused of been Racist ! Yet the Scottish and Welsh National parties arnt !

I wouldn't be too sure about that. Remember the burning of holiday cottages in Wales?

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

the 1801 act of union included wales and ireland, then ireland split up and then it was northern ireland. the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland, its on our passports. hopefully for a while yet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's the problem tho

if we had an ENP ( English national party ) it would immediately be acused of been Racist ! Yet the Scottish and Welsh National parties arnt !

I wouldn't be too sure about that. Remember the burning of holiday cottages in Wales?"

Please don't cloud the empty rhetoric with your pesky knowledge of history!

There is also a noticeably difference between the agenda of welsh and Scottish nationalists who in the main seek independence as opposed to british/english nationalists who's agenda is generally far more sinister

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surprised ! I was expecting a lot of stick but not expecting no posts !

Maybe it's because it's a question that makes little sense?

England are in effect the 'lead' part of the UK. It has the capital city, the parliament, the monarchy... England couldn't leave the UK even if it wanted too

Not so the constitution refers to all four parts as equal so it could leave theoretically the same as Scotland can the debate would then be is whats left still a united kingdom."

We don't have a constitution for a start.

And England and Wales are counted as the same as they shared a monarch it's actually between England and Wales as one country and Scotland as a separate one

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"That's the problem tho

if we had an ENP ( English national party ) it would immediately be acused of been Racist ! Yet the Scottish and Welsh National parties arnt !

I wouldn't be too sure about that. Remember the burning of holiday cottages in Wales?

Please don't cloud the empty rhetoric with your pesky knowledge of history!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I am an English Nationalist that simply wants the four nations seperatate but to remain friendly as four seperate country's ! Each country to decide Thier own political leanings that's not an issue for me !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree totally with the above post.

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

Nationalism is so too often called racism i love being English i was born in England to Scottish parents so i can see both sides of the argument

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I agree with the last two posts

for the record I love Scotland I've had someone holidays Thier ! The same ad I love Ibiza I've had good holidays there too ! But we ate Not the same country !

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Sorry bad spelling an grammar on above post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

English by birth - Yorkshire by the grace of God!

And for those claiming that England have the Monach, you may be interested that it was the. Scottish King James that took over the English Crown, not the other way round!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Nationalism is so too often called racism i love being English i was born in England to Scottish parents so i can see both sides of the argument "

Nationalism can easily become racism.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

As socialism can easily become Communism !

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

"Nationalism is so too often called racism i love being English i was born in England to Scottish parents so i can see both sides of the argument

Nationalism can easily become racism."

Bollox..

we live in a very multi culture society comming from west Yorkshire we have a growing Asian community. You cant make a Pearson a racist they will already have bigoted veiws already..

just because i love my Yorkshire home my English heritage plus my Scottish roots & my British History does not make me a racist it makes me a Proud Human

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The above post _xpresses the point perfectly !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No

Out of interest why do you think we need this and what would it achieve?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As socialism can easily become Communism !

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

As a reply to crystal wheels

I think we would be all better off

N Ireland to sort themselves , the scots to be socialist , the Welsh to stop hating the English , an the English to have a cup of tea an get on with things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a reply to crystal wheels

I think we would be all better off

N Ireland to sort themselves , the scots to be socialist , the Welsh to stop hating the English , an the English to have a cup of tea an get on with things

No sugar please..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a reply to crystal wheels

I think we would be all better off

N Ireland to sort themselves , the scots to be socialist , the Welsh to stop hating the English , an the English to have a cup of tea an get on with things

Sorry but that doesn't even come close to answering my queation. How would we 'all be better off?'

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think England would be a lot better off ! We would never have a Labour Government ever again for a start ! And we would probably leave the E U

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok

I think England would be a lot better off ! We would never have a Labour Government ever again for a start ! And we would probably leave the E U

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok

I think England would be a lot better off ! We would never have a Labour Government ever again for a start ! And we would probably leave the E U

Why would leaving the EU benefit us?

And regardless of political allegiance, surely one party with no effective opposition is veering dangerously close to a dictatorship. How is that a good thing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can you imagine driving a couple of hundred miles and arriving at the passport controls of Englandistan, Scotlandistan, Walesllellgogogogochllewellynbowenistan or sectarianistan???

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By *owayjose8Man
over a year ago

dundee

As for England leaving the uk it will never happen as come September when we vote for our own country there is no uk.can't leave something that doesn't exist

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well they you have it ! So the scots get to vote on a break up and we don't !

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