FabSwingers.com forum: Some women are stunning but some look like men

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Some women are stunning and look great, but some just look like a man in a dress.

Agree? Disagree? Discuss....

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

What group do you fall into?

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

Which category do you class yourself in?

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

I've only twice seen a lady from a distance and thought she looked like a man in a dress.

Both times it turned out to be a man in a dress.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I can't help it if I fall in to the first category

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you mean tv /ts or women born women ?

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By *overs14Couple
over a year ago

norwich

I hope I don't look like a man in a dress lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That old maxim - "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" still holds true today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

some men look better in dresses than some women do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some women are stunning and look great, but some just look like a man in a dress.

Agree? Disagree? Discuss...."

Some are a man in a dress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op, you must of seen shemales then lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some are men in dresses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought I was quite convincing

I have a friend who looks like a woman but put her in heels and she turns into a man in drag

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Some girls do, some girls don't. Some girls need a lot of loving and some look more androgynous, as so some men, and some look a little man-like in a frock.

Some TVs look more womanly in a dress than I ever could.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On many occasions, it would be (and is)a refreshing change to see a woman in a dress, preferably stylish and feminine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like to flex my muscles and man up now and then. Some men like the manly look on a woman. I draw the line at growing my armpit hair though

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

I look like a man trying to look like a lady in a dress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some women are stunning and look great, but some just look like a man in a dress.

Agree? Disagree? Discuss...."

Been told I look stunning in a dress but prefer jeans and tee personally but even then I still look like a woman. Must say the androgynous look on the right woman is as horny as hell!! (Especially when they are wearing a strap on)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What group do you fall into?"

The first category of course.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Interesting how people think it's ok to take the piss and be rude about tv's... yet when I post a thread very similar about women, (some) people react differently....

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

On many occasions, it would be (and is)a refreshing change to see a woman in a dress, preferably stylish and feminine. "

I don't think I have any butch dresses. I love a frock. I have about 30+ for day wear. I must cure this habit of seeing a dress and buying it.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Interesting how people think it's ok to take the piss and be rude about tv's... yet when I post a thread very similar about women, (some) people react differently....

xx"

I haven't looked at the TV thread yet but I saw this title and assumed it was one of your social experiments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

off topic slightly but since we are talking of identity issues i have seen some women so caked in fake tan ive actually had to ponder if they are black or not..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Interesting how people think it's ok to take the piss and be rude about tv's... yet when I post a thread very similar about women, (some) people react differently....

I haven't looked at the TV thread yet but I saw this title and assumed it was one of your social experiments."

Am I so predictable?

Oops.

I am trying to imagine you in a butch dress... whatever one of those is! No way you'd be mistaken for a man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Interesting how people think it's ok to take the piss and be rude about tv's... yet when I post a thread very similar about women, (some) people react differently....

xx"

Not quite the same though is it? they are really men dressing as women, they werent born looking like that they make themselves look like that because they want to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"off topic slightly but since we are talking of identity issues i have seen some women so caked in fake tan ive actually had to ponder if they are black or not.."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"off topic slightly but since we are talking of identity issues i have seen some women so caked in fake tan ive actually had to ponder if they are black or not.."

Have you tried specsavers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some women are stunning and look great, but some just look like a man in a dress.

Agree? Disagree? Discuss...."

Some do not many as most just look good and neither one way or the other.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP.."

Only if the op is a man. It seems rank hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to talking about gender.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

damn,youve spotted me out and about,will now have to change my look.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP..

Only if the op is a man. It seems rank hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to talking about gender. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"damn,youve spotted me out and about,will now have to change my look......."

Another bloody woman posing as a tv!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP..

Only if the op is a man. It seems rank hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to talking about gender. "

Double standards exist here and elsewhere, they sometimes work in favour of women and sometimes in favour of men. I hate it but all any of us can do is ensure that we are consistent in our repsonse to men and women.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP..

Only if the op is a man. It seems rank hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to talking about gender.

And challenge, even though I know I annoy many with the challenge.

Behaviour change takes time.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP..

Only if the op is a man. It seems rank hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to talking about gender.

And challenge, even though I know I annoy many with the challenge.

Behaviour change takes time.

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. It does not matter who perpetrates it. It is wrong.

It undermines many good arguments in favour of equality when the party shouting for equality acts in a discriminatory fashion.

It must be called out and exposed at every turn.

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By *mma_j_cdTV/TS
over a year ago

chester

I may well look like a man in a dress, I'll live with that but I would like it if people also see I'm trying to look my best and have a certain style, whatever that may be. When I'm out I just love seeing just how much effort and time Somme ladies take in their appearance. Well done to all the fantastic ladies

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP..

Only if the op is a man. It seems rank hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to talking about gender.

And challenge, even though I know I annoy many with the challenge.

Behaviour change takes time.

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. It does not matter who perpetrates it. It is wrong.

It undermines many good arguments in favour of equality when the party shouting for equality acts in a discriminatory fashion.

It must be called out and exposed at every turn. "

There was an interesting bit of research featured on the one off Kirsty Wark made on sexism.

Men who are sexist/misogynistic find sexist jokes funny and the fact that it is "jokes" reinforces the sexism and makes them more sexist as it validates their thoughts.

I am consistent in challenging both sexes and admit to my own flaws when I fail.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP..

Only if the op is a man. It seems rank hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to talking about gender.

And challenge, even though I know I annoy many with the challenge.

Behaviour change takes time.

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. It does not matter who perpetrates it. It is wrong.

It undermines many good arguments in favour of equality when the party shouting for equality acts in a discriminatory fashion.

It must be called out and exposed at every turn.

There was an interesting bit of research featured on the one off Kirsty Wark made on sexism.

Men who are sexist/misogynistic find sexist jokes funny and the fact that it is "jokes" reinforces the sexism and makes them more sexist as it validates their thoughts.

I am consistent in challenging both sexes and admit to my own flaws when I fail.

It is strange that any discussion on misandristic women very quickly gets turned into one about misogynistic men. It seems very hard to have a discussion about misandry where discussions on misogyny are commonplace.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Interesting thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some women are stunning and look great, but some just look like a man in a dress.

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OMG I'm so flattered,,,,

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Some women are stunning and look great, but some just look like a man in a dress.

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OMG I'm so flattered,,,,

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP..

Only if the op is a man. It seems rank hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to talking about gender.

And challenge, even though I know I annoy many with the challenge.

Behaviour change takes time.

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. It does not matter who perpetrates it. It is wrong.

It undermines many good arguments in favour of equality when the party shouting for equality acts in a discriminatory fashion.

It must be called out and exposed at every turn.

There was an interesting bit of research featured on the one off Kirsty Wark made on sexism.

Men who are sexist/misogynistic find sexist jokes funny and the fact that it is "jokes" reinforces the sexism and makes them more sexist as it validates their thoughts.

I am consistent in challenging both sexes and admit to my own flaws when I fail.

I challenge misandric women too. I hadn't realised this discussion was solely about misandry. I mistakenly took it to be about the treatment subjects get depending on the gender of the OP.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP..

Only if the op is a man. It seems rank hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to talking about gender.

And challenge, even though I know I annoy many with the challenge.

Behaviour change takes time.

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. It does not matter who perpetrates it. It is wrong.

It undermines many good arguments in favour of equality when the party shouting for equality acts in a discriminatory fashion.

It must be called out and exposed at every turn.

There was an interesting bit of research featured on the one off Kirsty Wark made on sexism.

Men who are sexist/misogynistic find sexist jokes funny and the fact that it is "jokes" reinforces the sexism and makes them more sexist as it validates their thoughts.

I am consistent in challenging both sexes and admit to my own flaws when I fail.

I challenge misandric women too. I hadn't realised this discussion was solely about misandry. I mistakenly took it to be about the treatment subjects get depending on the gender of the OP.

Haha you misunderstand me. I was not attacking you. I was simply talking on the subject.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This kind of thread rarely ends well for the OP..

Only if the op is a man. It seems rank hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to talking about gender.

And challenge, even though I know I annoy many with the challenge.

Behaviour change takes time.

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. It does not matter who perpetrates it. It is wrong.

It undermines many good arguments in favour of equality when the party shouting for equality acts in a discriminatory fashion.

It must be called out and exposed at every turn.

There was an interesting bit of research featured on the one off Kirsty Wark made on sexism.

Men who are sexist/misogynistic find sexist jokes funny and the fact that it is "jokes" reinforces the sexism and makes them more sexist as it validates their thoughts.

I am consistent in challenging both sexes and admit to my own flaws when I fail.

I challenge misandric women too. I hadn't realised this discussion was solely about misandry. I mistakenly took it to be about the treatment subjects get depending on the gender of the OP.

It wasn't about gender either. Just people. Well for me anyway. Anyone can make of it what they want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is different. I had to look up the word misandry to know what it meant. I knew what misogynistic meant at the age of 15

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Okay, so staying with the OP and ignoring the OPs latter social experiment statement (Scarlet you cheeky monkey!).

Looking like a lady / looking feminine is more than just a snapshot visual of the woman concerned. Movement is a massive distinction, posture as well. My sister has always slouched for example. Then look at the way different women walk. I would suggest that with correct movement and posture that a not so attractive woman could gain points

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Okay, so staying with the OP and ignoring the OPs latter social experiment statement (Scarlet you cheeky monkey!).

Didn't that used to be called deportment?

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

Just wonder how the thread would have gone if the OP had been a male

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Okay, so staying with the OP and ignoring the OPs latter social experiment statement (Scarlet you cheeky monkey!).

Didn't that used to be called deportment?

They deport women with inelegant movement

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

Some women are handsome and some men are beautiful. Androgyny can be very attractive.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I love Tilda Swinton's look...

she is stunning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love Tilda Swinton's look...

she is stunning

shes fit.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Movement is a massive thing to try to get the hang of. Some people are very heavy on their feet. I was at a TG event the other month and one of the girlys walked as if she was carry a big bag of coal on each shoulder. She was really stomping her feet down and it spoilt her look, as she looked good otherwise.

I'm finding it a learning curve, a bit of a steep one. I once spent a week practicing a feminine walk (not mincing, but walking like a lass - tutorials on youtube) only to go on a night out and be seen by a friend who pointed out I still had to work on my walk. Damn you Scarlet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some women are stunning and look great, but some just look like a man in a dress.

Agree? Disagree? Discuss...."

you sure they are not a man in a dress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agreed!!

Thankfully I tend to keep my make up natural .... Ish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Okay, so staying with the OP and ignoring the OPs latter social experiment statement (Scarlet you cheeky monkey!).

Didn't that used to be called deportment?

They deport women with inelegant movement

shocking idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So do you think movement is copied and learnt as a child then. I.e. You copy your elder own sex. I haven't met many TVs to be honest, but those that I have, this is a major thing that makes them obviously men. But then again, women can also be bad at this

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

xxxxx

I can't walk in heels. Or any shoes! I often find myself stomping around like I have a massive pair of bollocks dangling under my skirt. I giggle to myself and stomp off scratching my arse.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think it probably is. My natural drab walk is a stride, almost a march and looking like you've just come off a parade ground when you're glammed up doesn't help you.

If you watch how the different sexes stand, walk, move their hands when they talk, hunch their shoulders, it can all be a clue as to gender.

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis

Some women that look like a man in a dress can be stunning! Lost of men in dresses are far more stunning than me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if you're a straight man who has sex with a woman who looks like a man, does that mean you're kidding yourself and you're actually bi/gay?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you're a straight man who has sex with a woman who looks like a man, does that mean you're kidding yourself and you're actually bi/gay? "

Pmsl I've feckin heard it all now !! WTF

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you're a straight man who has sex with a woman who looks like a man, does that mean you're kidding yourself and you're actually bi/gay?

Pmsl I've feckin heard it all now !! WTF

Well apparently you can be straight if the man looks enough like a woman, just wondered if it worked the other way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you're a straight man who has sex with a woman who looks like a man, does that mean you're kidding yourself and you're actually bi/gay?

Pmsl I've feckin heard it all now !! WTF

Well apparently you can be straight if the man looks enough like a woman, just wondered if it worked the other way.

Good thinking - I'm with you on that one then

. So how are your moves? Posture looks good on pics, can the animated Jodie walk the walk

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By *mma_j_cdTV/TS
over a year ago

chester

Not many can walk like Jessica rabbit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some girls do, some girls don't. Some girls need a lot of loving and some look more androgynous, as so some men, and some look a little man-like in a frock.

Some TVs look more womanly in a dress than I ever could.

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i know I've got the feeling but, I don't know why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's to do with hip alignment and leg bones

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Men in dresses who look like men in dresses are far more sexy than men in dresses who look like women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it probably is. My natural drab walk is a stride, almost a march and looking like you've just come off a parade ground when you're glammed up doesn't help you.

If you watch how the different sexes stand, walk, move their hands when they talk, hunch their shoulders, it can all be a clue as to gender.

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that and the pipe full of rough shag

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So if you're a straight man who has sex with a woman who looks like a man, does that mean you're kidding yourself and you're actually bi/gay? "

Yup.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Men in dresses who look like men in dresses are far more sexy than men in dresses who look like women."

What if they are men in dresses that look like women that look like men?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Men in dresses who look like men in dresses are far more sexy than men in dresses who look like women.

What if they are men in dresses that look like women that look like men?"

Fuck no ! That's just not sexy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is starting to do my head in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you're a straight man who has sex with a woman who looks like a man, does that mean you're kidding yourself and you're actually bi/gay?

Pmsl I've feckin heard it all now !! WTF

Well apparently you can be straight if the man looks enough like a woman, just wondered if it worked the other way.

Good thinking - I'm with you on that one then

. So how are your moves? Posture looks good on pics, can the animated Jodie walk the walk

Fuck yeah, it's about the only time my legs are together :D

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Some girls are bigger than others.

Some girls mothers are bigger than other girls mothers.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Some girls are bigger than others.

Some girls mothers are bigger than other girls mothers. "

My mother has shrunk. This does not bode well for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hmmm i dont look male (hopes) but would never class myself as stunning - quite ordinary really - think most women think that way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're beaut.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some women are stunning and look great, but some just look like a man in a dress.

Agree? Disagree? Discuss...."

No I rarely think a woman looks like a man in a dress ok some are munters but some men are too but a man in a dress always has a slight ball aroma going.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Some people have genetic and hormonal mixes that means not everyone is going to look like a porn star, in the traditional sense. Just find who you are attracted to, and have sensitivity to those who are not so well blessed as you would like them to be. Diversity is good for the species.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"""""Some women are stunning and look great, but some just look like a man in a dress.""""

Not many women wear dresses these days, how can you give a comparison? Although we have seen a moustached guy in a dress!

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Wandsworth

Before or after make up

Before make up who is that guy, after she's sexy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember when a gang of us were involved with a carnival and the ladies all dressed up in burlesque outfits.

Amazingly one of the ladies ended up looking very much like an aging transvestite.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I remember when a gang of us were involved with a carnival and the ladies all dressed up in burlesque outfits.

Amazingly one of the ladies ended up looking very much like an aging transvestite. "

Not sure if that's rude to old people or transvestites.. or both...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some people have genetic and hormonal mixes that means not everyone is going to look like a porn star, in the traditional sense. Just find who you are attracted to, and have sensitivity to those who are not so well blessed as you would like them to be. Diversity is good for the species. "

Good post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I look like a man trying to look like a lady in a dress

Me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I look like a man trying to look like a lady in a dress

Me too "

And me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That old maxim - "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" still holds true today.

Bollocks!!

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over a year ago

"Interesting how people think it's ok to take the piss and be rude about tv's... yet when I post a thread very similar about women, (some) people react differently....

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Oh god just chill,lol relax

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over a year ago

yawn.....

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over a year ago

"some men look better in dresses than some women do

I try my hardest honey

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over a year ago

"some men look better in dresses than some women do

I try my hardest honey

We all try. Some are more successful than others tho.

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