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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely." Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.  | |||
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show them snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose. "Seriously? Omfg! Why would they not show it "the gays" are actually oddly quite normal you know, they snog and talk about sex just like "the straights" ffs Honestly shocked to find this attitude on here, silly me thought swingers were more liberally minded  | |||
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show them snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose.
Seriously?
Omfg!
Why would they not show it
"the gays" are actually oddly quite normal you know, they snog and talk about sex just like "the straights" ffs
Honestly shocked to find this attitude on here, silly me thought swingers were more liberally minded "Yes i know they are normal but sometimes it makes me feel a bit queesy. though. its as if they have to be politicaly correct all the time. | |||
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show them snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose. "Not sure why you are so suprised that a family can have more than one gay person? There isn't a limit... They show them kissing and talking about sex because it's a pretty natural thing for a couple to do. (regardless of their gender) even ugly ones! | |||
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show them snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose.
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Omfg!
Why would they not show it
"the gays" are actually oddly quite normal you know, they snog and talk about sex just like "the straights" ffs
Honestly shocked to find this attitude on here, silly me thought swingers were more liberally minded
Yes i know they are normal but sometimes it makes me feel a bit queesy.
though. its as if they have to be politicaly correct all the time."No need to feel queesy! You can't catch 'The Ghey' from watching TV . *fucking one maybe - but not watching!  
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show them snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose. "Why am I not surprised?!  | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family. "You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days. Just saying. | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying."Actualy quite a few young people think the same way as i do. | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying.
Actualy quite a few young people think the same way as i do."Yeah because they've been brought up by people with archaic _iews, and find two people of the same sex kissing on screen a little "queasy". | |||
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"There will always be outliers statistically, where you get more extreme results, such as a gaggle of gays - should that be a gobble? " This tickled me | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying.
Actualy quite a few young people think the same way as i do.
Yeah because they've been brought up by people with archaic _iews, and find two people of the same sex kissing on screen a little "queasy"."Actualy it doesnt always matter how you are brought up because a lot of people decide for themselves what they think about things and people often change there minds about things as they get older. | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying.
Actualy quite a few young people think the same way as i do."I also believe the less tolerant and bordering on being a bigot types are represented in soaps. | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely." Maybe it was contagious | |||
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" Actualy it doesnt always matter how you are brought up because a lot of people decide for themselves what they think about things and people often change there minds about things as they get older." Well that's just wrong. SOME people decide for themselves what they think about things, because they're clever enough to use their own heads. | |||
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show tihem snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose. "Do they show heterosexual people 'snogging and talking about sex'? | |||
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show them snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose.
Why am I not surprised?! "I can't imagine. | |||
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show tihem snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose.
Yes i cant say i like that much either.
there are more interesting things to do and talk about. in a tv program i mean.
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying."I agree with everything with the exception of the use of the word "starting". Fortunately there are older people who are more accepting, so it's not just down to age. Live and let live, I say, especially when one lives, and expects to be allowed to live, a lifestyle which is regarded as disgusting by some others. | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying.
I agree with everything with the exception of the use of the word "starting".
Fortunately there are older people who are more accepting, so it's not just down to age.
Live and let live, I say, especially when one lives, and expects to be allowed to live, a lifestyle which is regarded as disgusting by some others."Aha yeah I suppose you're right with that one. As for the age thing, it was more in reference to a different age of social thinking.  | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying.
I agree with everything with the exception of the use of the word "starting".
Fortunately there are older people who are more accepting, so it's not just down to age.
Live and let live, I say, especially when one lives, and expects to be allowed to live, a lifestyle which is regarded as disgusting by some others."Well im one of those rare people who is proud of my age and not afraid to show it. Im 52 by the way. | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying.
I agree with everything with the exception of the use of the word "starting".
Fortunately there are older people who are more accepting, so it's not just down to age.
Live and let live, I say, especially when one lives, and expects to be allowed to live, a lifestyle which is regarded as disgusting by some others.
Well im one of those rare people who is proud of my age and not afraid to show it. Im 52 by the way."With some of your _iews you should be living in 1852!! | |||
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"Well im one of those rare people who is proud of my age and not afraid to show it. Im 52 by the way. "We know... That's why we said what we said. I don't think anyone really cares less about how old someone is, it's more about how they apply that mind with the years of experience they've had with it. | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying.
I agree with everything with the exception of the use of the word "starting".
Fortunately there are older people who are more accepting, so it's not just down to age.
Live and let live, I say, especially when one lives, and expects to be allowed to live, a lifestyle which is regarded as disgusting by some others.
Well im one of those rare people who is proud of my age and not afraid to show it. Im 52 by the way.
With some of your _iews you should be living in 1852!! " | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying.
I agree with everything with the exception of the use of the word "starting".
Fortunately there are older people who are more accepting, so it's not just down to age.
Live and let live, I say, especially when one lives, and expects to be allowed to live, a lifestyle which is regarded as disgusting by some others.
Well im one of those rare people who is proud of my age and not afraid to show it. Im 52 by the way."It's not your actual age that's the problem. And you're not rare in being happy to be honest about your age. | |||
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"I used to have a girl worked for me who was a lesbian her identical twin sister was also a lesbian and her younger brother was gay so I would say its quite likely. Thats weird, do you think it runs in the family.
You're starting to show your age a little with these sorts of comments. We live in the 21st century these days.
Just saying.
I agree with everything with the exception of the use of the word "starting".
Fortunately there are older people who are more accepting, so it's not just down to age.
Live and let live, I say, especially when one lives, and expects to be allowed to live, a lifestyle which is regarded as disgusting by some others.
Well im one of those rare people who is proud of my age and not afraid to show it. Im 52 by the way.
It's not your actual age that's the problem.
And you're not rare in being happy to be honest about your age."No, i am happy to be showing my age by the comments i make. | |||
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"You're showing your mentality and that you are behind and stuck in your thinking, not your age per se. Neither are positive traits. There are much older people here with a much more open, accepting, tolerant and inclusive _iew of life." No to you they are not positive traits. because you dont agree with what i think. | |||
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"You're showing your mentality and that you are behind and stuck in your thinking, not your age per se. Neither are positive traits. There are much older people here with a much more open, accepting, tolerant and inclusive _iew of life. No to you they are not positive traits. because you dont agree with what i think. "No, VV is quite correct, they're not positive traits at all, quite the opposite in fact, they're quite ignorant and boarderline bigoted. But hey, you're entitled to your _iews. | |||
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"You're showing your mentality and that you are behind and stuck in your thinking, not your age per se. Neither are positive traits. There are much older people here with a much more open, accepting, tolerant and inclusive _iew of life. No to you they are not positive traits. because you dont agree with what i think.
No, VV is quite correct, they're not positive traits at all, quite the opposite in fact, they're quite ignorant and boarderline bigoted. But hey, you're entitled to your _iews."Well if you say so. we cant all think the same even if we are on a swingers site. so if i dont like seeing gays on soaps, that makes me ignorant does it? | |||
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"... so if i dont like seeing gays on soaps, that makes me ignorant does it?" No... the fact you don't know what it makes you is what shows your ignorance  | |||
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"You're showing your mentality and that you are behind and stuck in your thinking, not your age per se. Neither are positive traits. There are much older people here with a much more open, accepting, tolerant and inclusive _iew of life. No to you they are not positive traits. because you dont agree with what i think.
No, VV is quite correct, they're not positive traits at all, quite the opposite in fact, they're quite ignorant and boarderline bigoted. But hey, you're entitled to your _iews.
Well if you say so. we cant all think the same even if we are on a swingers site. so if i dont like seeing gays on soaps, that makes me ignorant does it?"I personally feel it does, yes. It's also how you express those _iews and the arena you choose to express them in. Surely you can see why expressing a dislike for homosexuality on a swingers site isn't the best idea. | |||
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"I thought this was gonna be about hollyoaks were 1 in every 3 carachters is gay/lesbian lol doesnt bother me. It used to when I was younger but attitudes were different then it wasnt so normal or socially acceptable and the first gay kiss on tv caused uproar. I know a family with 3 sons. One is as masculin as they come and the other two are both extremely feminine gays. So yeah it does happen." I've been in Hollyoaks. I think that may have been what turned me bi | |||
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"Well if you say so. we cant all think the same even if we are on a swingers site. so if i dont like seeing gays on soaps, that makes me ignorant does it?" It's everything from your mental attitude to the fact you still continue to call these people as "gays". I'd half expect you to start calling black people "the blacks" at this rate. If something makes you uncomfortable, then that's fine. You can't be labelled a bigot or an idiot for finding something uncomfortable, that's just human nature. It's the way in which you've decided to express this discomfort, both in an area where homosexuality is no different to heterosexuality and indeed celebrated because everyone's free to express their sexuality in any which was they choose. If you don't like it, fine. Don't watch it. And further still, don't start trolling on forums knowing the sort of uproar it can/will cause. You have the attitude of an 19th century priest and the maturity of a child. It's very sad to see. | |||
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"You're showing your mentality and that you are behind and stuck in your thinking, not your age per se. Neither are positive traits. There are much older people here with a much more open, accepting, tolerant and inclusive _iew of life. No to you they are not positive traits. because you dont agree with what i think.
No, VV is quite correct, they're not positive traits at all, quite the opposite in fact, they're quite ignorant and boarderline bigoted. But hey, you're entitled to your _iews.
Well if you say so. we cant all think the same even if we are on a swingers site. so if i dont like seeing gays on soaps, that makes me ignorant does it?
I personally feel it does, yes. It's also how you express those _iews and the arena you choose to express them in. Surely you can see why expressing a dislike for homosexuality on a swingers site isn't the best idea."And that considering showing a _iew representing actual society is "political correctness". Those damned gays, always insisting they are represented, just because they are a part of society... | |||
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"I thought this was gonna be about hollyoaks were 1 in every 3 carachters is gay/lesbian lol doesnt bother me. It used to when I was younger but attitudes were different then it wasnt so normal or socially acceptable and the first gay kiss on tv caused uproar. I know a family with 3 sons. One is as masculin as they come and the other two are both extremely feminine gays. So yeah it does happen. I've been in Hollyoaks. I think that may have been what turned me bi" The ghey is very contagious. | |||
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"I thought this was gonna be about hollyoaks were 1 in every 3 carachters is gay/lesbian lol doesnt bother me. It used to when I was younger but attitudes were different then it wasnt so normal or socially acceptable and the first gay kiss on tv caused uproar. I know a family with 3 sons. One is as masculin as they come and the other two are both extremely feminine gays. So yeah it does happen. I've been in Hollyoaks. I think that may have been what turned me bi The ghey is very contagious. " I know - cant get rid of it! | |||
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"I thought this was gonna be about hollyoaks were 1 in every 3 carachters is gay/lesbian lol doesnt bother me. It used to when I was younger but attitudes were different then it wasnt so normal or socially acceptable and the first gay kiss on tv caused uproar. I know a family with 3 sons. One is as masculin as they come and the other two are both extremely feminine gays. So yeah it does happen. I've been in Hollyoaks. I think that may have been what turned me bi The ghey is very contagious. " Just don't have a pint in the Queen Vic whatever you do, I hear the water the beer and spirits down with a particularly strong dose of 'ghey'. It's so strong that Dot Branning tried to get it on with Kat Slater after onkybhave a glass of sherry! | |||
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"erm what a we supposed to call gay people now? (I missed the memo)" Do you not think there's something wrong in simply saying "gays", in reference to a large group of people? Just the same as we don't pool all races together and just say "Jews", "blacks" or whatever, there are more tactful and respectful ways of doing it, that's all. | |||
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"You're showing your mentality and that you are behind and stuck in your thinking, not your age per se. Neither are positive traits. There are much older people here with a much more open, accepting, tolerant and inclusive _iew of life. No to you they are not positive traits. because you dont agree with what i think.
No, VV is quite correct, they're not positive traits at all, quite the opposite in fact, they're quite ignorant and boarderline bigoted. But hey, you're entitled to your _iews.
Well if you say so. we cant all think the same even if we are on a swingers site. so if i dont like seeing gays on soaps, that makes me ignorant does it?"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion however what made your initial post sound ignorant, to me, was the end where you said it would be ok if they were good looking, that makes it a _iew based on looks as much as anything else. Also the bit about it making you feel queasy seem a little unnecessary and archaic yet it seems you'd be much less queasy if they were two hot guys? Is that right? So what are you saying here, you're ok with seeing gay guys kissing only if they're good looking stereotypes? The world works the same way for gay guys and gals as for the rest of us, only the lucky few are smokin' hot, the rest are 'normal'. If its down to looks, rather than sexual preference, do you feel queasy watching less-than-stunning hetrosexuals snogging and talking about sex? Would it be the same with two lesbians as well? I get it, peoples opinions are their own and whether they're out of sync with how the world is these days or not, they're entitled to them but can you see why most people think your comments are somewhat archaic? | |||
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"Well if you say so. we cant all think the same even if we are on a swingers site. so if i dont like seeing gays on soaps, that makes me ignorant does it? It's everything from your mental attitude to the fact you still continue to call these people as "gays". I'd half expect you to start calling black people "the blacks" at this rate. If something makes you uncomfortable, then that's fine. You can't be labelled a bigot or an idiot for finding something uncomfortable, that's just human nature. It's the way in which you've decided to express this discomfort, both in an area where homosexuality is no different to heterosexuality and indeed celebrated because everyone's free to express their sexuality in any which was they choose. If you don't like it, fine. Don't watch it. And further still, don't start trolling on forums knowing the sort of uproar it can/will cause. You have the attitude of an 19th century priest and the maturity of a child. It's very sad to see." I said gays because thats what everyone else says on here, as if you hadnt noticed. I say what i think and if you have got a problem with it, too bad. I think its a bit rich saying i have the maturity of a child, coming from you. | |||
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"I thought this was gonna be about hollyoaks were 1 in every 3 carachters is gay/lesbian lol doesnt bother me. It used to when I was younger but attitudes were different then it wasnt so normal or socially acceptable and the first gay kiss on tv caused uproar. I know a family with 3 sons. One is as masculin as they come and the other two are both extremely feminine gays. So yeah it does happen. I've been in Hollyoaks. I think that may have been what turned me bi The ghey is very contagious. Just don't have a pint in the Queen Vic whatever you do, I hear the water the beer and spirits down with a particularly strong dose of 'ghey'. It's so strong that Dot Branning tried to get it on with Kat Slater after onkybhave a glass of sherry!" Behave, Dot's been drinking that shit for years. I challenged her to a drinking contest and had to give up after the sixth pint (yes, pint) of the stuff. She drinks that stuff like water. | |||
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"erm what a we supposed to call gay people now? (I missed the memo) Do you not think there's something wrong in simply saying "gays", in reference to a large group of people? Just the same as we don't pool all races together and just say "Jews", "blacks" or whatever, there are more tactful and respectful ways of doing it, that's all." Depends on the context. If you want to get all angry about it I'm sure it'll fuel a lengthy and mostly pointless debate though. And please don't refer to me as people. I'm an individual don't you know. | |||
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"Well if you say so. we cant all think the same even if we are on a swingers site. so if i dont like seeing gays on soaps, that makes me ignorant does it? It's everything from your mental attitude to the fact you still continue to call these people as "gays". I'd half expect you to start calling black people "the blacks" at this rate. If something makes you uncomfortable, then that's fine. You can't be labelled a bigot or an idiot for finding something uncomfortable, that's just human nature. It's the way in which you've decided to express this discomfort, both in an area where homosexuality is no different to heterosexuality and indeed celebrated because everyone's free to express their sexuality in any which was they choose. If you don't like it, fine. Don't watch it. And further still, don't start trolling on forums knowing the sort of uproar it can/will cause. You have the attitude of an 19th century priest and the maturity of a child. It's very sad to see. I said gays because thats what everyone else says on here, as if you hadnt noticed. I say what i think and if you have got a problem with it, too bad. I think its a bit rich saying i have the maturity of a child, coming from you." I thought you said earlier that people "often" make up their own minds, and it's not always about the way someone's been brought up? Yet, just there, you admitted that it's a case of "everyone else does it, so I will too." That's not exactly a case of you making up your own mind to show a little respect to people now, is it? I have no problems with you saying what you think. Bravo for voicing your opinion, how very modern of you. I have a problem with the opinion you voiced, and I was giving my opinion of that in response. I'm more than happy with my levels of maturity, thank you very much. It shows that there's hope for us kids yet. | |||
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"erm what a we supposed to call gay people now? (I missed the memo) Do you not think there's something wrong in simply saying "gays", in reference to a large group of people? Just the same as we don't pool all races together and just say "Jews", "blacks" or whatever, there are more tactful and respectful ways of doing it, that's all. Depends on the context. If you want to get all angry about it I'm sure it'll fuel a lengthy and mostly pointless debate though. And please don't refer to me as people. I'm an individual don't you know." Aha very good. | |||
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" Sorry pal but all the people of a homosexual persuasion I know of call themselves gays. They goto gay pride etc so I have no issue referring to them as gays. If theres a problem with that maybe its yours not the majorities?? Is there anything wrong with the following statements: The Police have been asked to re_iew how they apply the stop and search policy to the blacks in East London. The Council said their E&D screening did not disadvantage the gays applying for jobs. A local shopkeeper said too much was being expected by the disabled in terms of access." Not to me. But Im not black gay or disabled lmao I do get your point. Its not the title but how its applied/used. | |||
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show them snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose.
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Why would they not show it
"the gays" are actually oddly quite normal you know, they snog and talk about sex just like "the straights" ffs
Honestly shocked to find this attitude on here, silly me thought swingers were more liberally minded
Yes i know they are normal but sometimes it makes me feel a bit queesy.
though. its as if they have to be politicaly correct all the time."It's not being politically correct - it's showing people as they are. Straight couples are shown kissing (even the "ugly" ones). | |||
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Are you saying that homophobia is a positive trait?
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Are you saying that homophobia is a positive trait?
im not homophphobic i just dont want it rammed down my throat. as i said before when watching eastenders im not interested in watching straight couples snogging either. people chose to ignore that bit though.
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Are you saying that homophobia is a positive trait?
im not homophphobic i just dont want it rammed down my throat. as i said before when watching eastenders im not interested in watching straight couples snogging either. people chose to ignore that bit though.
Maybe that's down to the tone of your opening post?
I don't remember a bit where the OP says she doesn't like seeing straight couples kiss. I may have missed it skimming through the thread though.
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"Wonder why it bothers you quite so much." It bothers me so much because I have many gay friends, and gay family members. It bothers me because we're lucky enough to have been born into a society that's liberal enough to "accept" homosexuality. Unfortunately even this isn't enough. We shouldn't "accept" someone for their sexual orientation. It should be so much more than that; it should just "be", without issue. I don't "accept" my mother or my father. They are a part of me and I love them both dearly. It bothers me because there are people in the world who are severely discriminated and abused, to the point they feel they have to take their own life or, equally as badly, THE STATE THEY LIVE IN decide to take their life for them because of their sexual orientation. It bothers me that people can sit behind a computer screen and say that watching it on a television makes them feel "queasy" and feel like it's being "rammed down their throats". That's why it bothers me. | |||
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im not homophphobic i just dont want it rammed down my throat. as i said before when watching eastenders im not interested in watching straight couples snogging either. people chose to ignore that bit though. "It's not being rammed down your throat. There's this thing called 'a remote control' a magical device which allows you access to hundreds of other TV stations and an almost endless choice of shows. If you don't like seeing people kissing (of any sexuality) why not find a natural history show about pengins, you won't have to worry about anyone kissing then. | |||
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"You are born gay, it's genetic which means that it would run in the family - my dad was gay and my sister. I don't think it's genetic x If it wasn't genetic, the likelihood of more than one member of the family being gay is very small. If it's genetic will gay people die out? No, the gene will be strengthened by lesbians using the sperm of their gay friends. Although I will have to wait a few years to see if this plays out across the number of children I know conceived in this way. So more people will be gay - does this mean straight people will die out?" Gays and straights will never die out, the same as only boys will ever be born eventually, ridiculous. | |||
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"Wonder why it bothers you quite so much. It bothers me so much because I have many gay friends, and gay family members. It bothers me because we're lucky enough to have been born into a society that's liberal enough to "accept" homosexuality. Unfortunately even this isn't enough. We shouldn't "accept" someone for their sexual orientation. It should be so much more than that; it should just "be", without issue. I don't "accept" my mother or my father. They are a part of me and I love them both dearly. It bothers me because there are people in the world who are severely discriminated and abused, to the point they feel they have to take their own life or, equally as badly, THE STATE THEY LIVE IN decide to take their life for them because of their sexual orientation. It bothers me that people can sit behind a computer screen and say that watching it on a television makes them feel "queasy" and feel like it's being "rammed down their throats". That's why it bothers me." I wonder if you might mean tolerate in place of accept. We should accept rather than tolerate. And the OP isn't even tolerating. | |||
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"You are born gay, it's genetic which means that it would run in the family - my dad was gay and my sister. I don't think it's genetic x If it wasn't genetic, the likelihood of more than one member of the family being gay is very small. If it's genetic will gay people die out? No, the gene will be strengthened by lesbians using the sperm of their gay friends. Although I will have to wait a few years to see if this plays out across the number of children I know conceived in this way. So more people will be gay - does this mean straight people will die out? or does it mean that at some point in the future there will simply be people, not straight, gay, bi etc.?" Exactly! | |||
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"You're showing your mentality and that you are behind and stuck in your thinking, not your age per se. Neither are positive traits. There are much older people here with a much more open, accepting, tolerant and inclusive _iew of life. No to you they are not positive traits. because you dont agree with what i think.
Are you saying that homophobia is a positive trait?
im not homophphobic i just dont want it rammed down my throat. as i said before when watching eastenders im not interested in watching straight couples snogging either. people chose to ignore that bit though.
It's not being rammed down your throat. There's this thing called 'a remote control' a magical device which allows you access to hundreds of other TV stations and an almost endless choice of shows. If you don't like seeing people kissing (of any sexuality) why not find a natural history show about pengins, you won't have to worry about anyone kissing then."No but then you have to watch mummy and daddy penguin throwing up their food into baby penguin. THAT makes me queasy. And also want to try it out... | |||
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"You are born gay, it's genetic which means that it would run in the family - my dad was gay and my sister. I don't think it's genetic x If it wasn't genetic, the likelihood of more than one member of the family being gay is very small. If it's genetic will gay people die out? No, the gene will be strengthened by lesbians using the sperm of their gay friends. Although I will have to wait a few years to see if this plays out across the number of children I know conceived in this way. So more people will be gay - does this mean straight people will die out?" No, because enough of them keep breeding too. It is also perfectly possible that the straights (sic) breeding the gays (ditto) and the gays breeding the straights might even things out. | |||
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"You're showing your mentality and that you are behind and stuck in your thinking, not your age per se. Neither are positive traits. There are much older people here with a much more open, accepting, tolerant and inclusive _iew of life. No to you they are not positive traits. because you dont agree with what i think.
Are you saying that homophobia is a positive trait?
im not homophphobic i just dont want it rammed down my throat. as i said before when watching eastenders im not interested in watching straight couples snogging either. people chose to ignore that bit though.
It's not being rammed down your throat. There's this thing called 'a remote control' a magical device which allows you access to hundreds of other TV stations and an almost endless choice of shows. If you don't like seeing people kissing (of any sexuality) why not find a natural history show about pengins, you won't have to worry about anyone kissing then." See my penguin thread. | |||
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"I wonder if you might mean tolerate in place of accept. We should accept rather than tolerate. And the OP isn't even tolerating." That would certainly make more sense. You've got ma back, gurl. | |||
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"as i said before when watching eastenders im not interested in watching straight couples snogging either. people chose to ignore that bit though.
I checked. You didn't say that at all and you ignored it or treated it as a joke when you were asked about it.
well if you couldnt find it too bad im not going to argue about it. "It's not there is the reason I couldn't find it. You aren't going to discuss it because you know you weren't telling the truth and cannot back-up your claim. | |||
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"You are born gay, it's genetic which means that it would run in the family - my dad was gay and my sister. I don't think it's genetic x If it wasn't genetic, the likelihood of more than one member of the family being gay is very small. If it's genetic will gay people die out? No, the gene will be strengthened by lesbians using the sperm of their gay friends. Although I will have to wait a few years to see if this plays out across the number of children I know conceived in this way. So more people will be gay - does this mean straight people will die out? or does it mean that at some point in the future there will simply be people, not straight, gay, bi etc.?" I hope we get to a point of not labelling unnecessarily but I think people will always be on a sexual continuum. Some are very much at the hetero end and other very much at the homosexual end with most of us swimming along the mid section to a lesser or greater degree. | |||
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"I hope we get to a point of not labelling unnecessarily but I think people will always be on a sexual continuum. Some are very much at the hetero end and other very much at the homosexual end with most of us swimming along the mid section to a lesser or greater degree. " But how much is that continuum influenced by environment? Like watching Hollyoaks for example.. | |||
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"You are born gay, it's genetic which means that it would run in the family - my dad was gay and my sister. I don't think it's genetic x If it wasn't genetic, the likelihood of more than one member of the family being gay is very small. If it's genetic will gay people die out? No, the gene will be strengthened by lesbians using the sperm of their gay friends. Although I will have to wait a few years to see if this plays out across the number of children I know conceived in this way. So more people will be gay - does this mean straight people will die out? or does it mean that at some point in the future there will simply be people, not straight, gay, bi etc.? I hope we get to a point of not labelling unnecessarily but I think people will always be on a sexual continuum. Some are very much at the hetero end and other very much at the homosexual end with most of us swimming along the mid section to a lesser or greater degree. " I like the mid section. There's more choice in the mid section | |||
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"Oh Dear Argumentative Friday. Show me the gene that predicts a gay child will be born. there isn't one and if they ever find it I'm hoping none of you will care because children should born and loved because of who they are and not by a society label. It's not about any particular individuality being breed out or dying out. Shadwell x mwah x "They are tight genes - really tight | |||
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"I hope we get to a point of not labelling unnecessarily but I think people will always be on a sexual continuum. Some are very much at the hetero end and other very much at the homosexual end with most of us swimming along the mid section to a lesser or greater degree. But how much is that continuum influenced by environment? Like watching Hollyoaks for example.." I think environment influences how we present where we are on the continuum, both to ourselves and the wider world. I have met so many older homosexual people of both genders who have only recently expressed their sexuality as their environment would not allow it when they were younger. Sadly, some have "lost" their children as they have come to accept themselves. One has expressed to me that she wishes she had come out earlier as her children would have had longer to accept her the way she is. | |||
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show them snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose. "Your original post surprises me: given that you are on a swingers site, I thought your _iews about gay/bisexual people would be more liberal. What is the difference between a straight person talking about sex and a gay/bisexual person? You can always watch something else if you do not like it. | |||
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"I hope we get to a point of not labelling unnecessarily but I think people will always be on a sexual continuum. Some are very much at the hetero end and other very much at the homosexual end with most of us swimming along the mid section to a lesser or greater degree. But how much is that continuum influenced by environment? Like watching Hollyoaks for example.. I think environment influences how we present where we are on the continuum, both to ourselves and the wider world. I have met so many older homosexual people of both genders who have only recently expressed their sexuality as their environment would not allow it when they were younger. Sadly, some have "lost" their children as they have come to accept themselves. One has expressed to me that she wishes she had come out earlier as her children would have had longer to accept her the way she is. " That's not nice, but not hugely surprising either. I think culture has a huge influence even on those who try to resist it. | |||
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They are tight genes - really tight"show me a straight person who chose to be straight and show me the gay who chose to be gay - they don't exist. It's in your genes, you have no control over the person you are born as. | |||
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They are tight genes - really tight
show me a straight person who chose to be straight and show me the gay who chose to be gay - they don't exist. It's in your genes, you have no control over the person you are born as."And there are no gay people that chose to be straight?! If you have the answer go and share it. If not at least accept that others _iews may be just as valid as yours. | |||
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"The pub landlord in eastenders the bloke with the beard has got a sister who is lesbian and a son who is homosexual, how likely is it that there would be two in the same family? Why do they have to show them snogging and talking about sex. Wouldnt be so bad if they were good looking i suppose.
Why am I not surprised?! "I wasn't surprised either! | |||
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"Oh Dear Argumentative Friday. Show me the gene that predicts a gay child will be born. there isn't one and if they ever find it I'm hoping none of you will care because children should born and loved because of who they are and not by a society label. It's not about any particular individuality being breed out or dying out. Shadwell x mwah x
They are tight genes - really tight
show me a straight person who chose to be straight and show me the gay who chose to be gay - they don't exist. It's in your genes, you have no control over the person you are born as.
And there are no gay people that chose to be straight?!
If you have the answer go and share it. If not at least accept that others _iews may be just as valid as yours."They only "chose" to be straight because society is more accepting of straight people. Being gay has such a stigma. So if they "chose" to be straight it's because they felt it was the best way. You cannot change your genetic DNA - it is how you are born. | |||
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"You two really do grab the stick and shake it. Perhsps you shpuld have a reread snd calm down. Cos you dont seem to understand." You're right about that - erm what?! | |||
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"I think people are wired to desire sex. That's about it. Culturally we've created all sorts of confusion about what is 'right and wrong' sex. I expect there will be an increase in gay/bi people - but that will mostly be due to a change in attitudes rather than an actual increase in any kind of sexuality. I don't buy into the idea it's all black and white - people and life are too complex for that." How can gay sex be right? Man and woman were created to create other men and women. It's historical. | |||
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"You two really do grab the stick and shake it. Perhsps you shpuld have a reread snd calm down. Cos you dont seem to understand. You're right about that - erm what?! "
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"I think people are wired to desire sex. That's about it. Culturally we've created all sorts of confusion about what is 'right and wrong' sex. I expect there will be an increase in gay/bi people - but that will mostly be due to a change in attitudes rather than an actual increase in any kind of sexuality. I don't buy into the idea it's all black and white - people and life are too complex for that. How can gay sex be right? Man and woman were created to create other men and women. It's historical." omg | |||
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"I think people are wired to desire sex. That's about it. Culturally we've created all sorts of confusion about what is 'right and wrong' sex. I expect there will be an increase in gay/bi people - but that will mostly be due to a change in attitudes rather than an actual increase in any kind of sexuality. I don't buy into the idea it's all black and white - people and life are too complex for that. How can gay sex be right? Man and woman were created to create other men and women. It's historical." It happens naturally. How can it be "wrong"? It's not a conscious decision or choice. It's simply a variation. Men and women will continue to procreate. Don't worry, "the gheys" won't wipe out the human race. | |||
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"Oh Dear Argumentative Friday. Show me the gene that predicts a gay child will be born. there isn't one and if they ever find it I'm hoping none of you will care because children should born and loved because of who they are and not by a society label. It's not about any particular individuality being breed out or dying out. Shadwell x mwah x
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show me a straight person who chose to be straight and show me the gay who chose to be gay - they don't exist. It's in your genes, you have no control over the person you are born as." | |||
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"I think people are wired to desire sex. That's about it. Culturally we've created all sorts of confusion about what is 'right and wrong' sex. I expect there will be an increase in gay/bi people - but that will mostly be due to a change in attitudes rather than an actual increase in any kind of sexuality. I don't buy into the idea it's all black and white - people and life are too complex for that. How can gay sex be right? Man and woman were created to create other men and women. It's historical." It's not historical it's biological. Yet there are now cases of different species 'evolving' parthenogenesis - two cases of Komodo dragons here in the UK, for instance. Once the species is safe/there are enough of them other species switch off the breeding in large numbers. Humans have many more options. Even the penguins are doing it. | |||
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"Oh Dear Argumentative Friday. Show me the gene that predicts a gay child will be born. there isn't one and if they ever find it I'm hoping none of you will care because children should born and loved because of who they are and not by a society label. It's not about any particular individuality being breed out or dying out. Shadwell x mwah x
They are tight genes - really tight
show me a straight person who chose to be straight and show me the gay who chose to be gay - they don't exist. It's in your genes, you have no control over the person you are born as.
And there are no gay people that chose to be straight?!
If you have the answer go and share it. If not at least accept that others _iews may be just as valid as yours.
They only "chose" to be straight because society is more accepting of straight people. Being gay has such a stigma. So if they "chose" to be straight it's because they felt it was the best way. You cannot change your genetic DNA - it is how you are born."I understand your _iew. I don't particularly agree with it. I believe people can be and often are masters of their own destiny and can also be victims to circumstance, culture and environment. And I think people like sex. Often sex just because it's available - there's plenty of evidence for that! | |||
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shadwells right about maturity"No seriously - try reading it yourself because it made no sense. | |||
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"I think people are wired to desire sex. That's about it. Culturally we've created all sorts of confusion about what is 'right and wrong' sex. I expect there will be an increase in gay/bi people - but that will mostly be due to a change in attitudes rather than an actual increase in any kind of sexuality. I don't buy into the idea it's all black and white - people and life are too complex for that. How can gay sex be right? Man and woman were created to create other men and women. It's historical." Well after all the nasty comments iv had on here i will agree with you and say maybe you are right. | |||
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"I think people are wired to desire sex. That's about it. Culturally we've created all sorts of confusion about what is 'right and wrong' sex. I expect there will be an increase in gay/bi people - but that will mostly be due to a change in attitudes rather than an actual increase in any kind of sexuality. I don't buy into the idea it's all black and white - people and life are too complex for that. How can gay sex be right? Man and woman were created to create other men and women. It's historical." Oh dear. Men and women were created. Gay sex is wrong. Honestly the most stupid statement I've ever read on here. | |||
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"I think people are wired to desire sex. That's about it. Culturally we've created all sorts of confusion about what is 'right and wrong' sex. I expect there will be an increase in gay/bi people - but that will mostly be due to a change in attitudes rather than an actual increase in any kind of sexuality. I don't buy into the idea it's all black and white - people and life are too complex for that. How can gay sex be right? Man and woman were created to create other men and women. It's historical. omg" Read that I was replying to a comment about wrong or right sex - I don't give a monkeys if gays have sex, but gay sex can't be right in that it would wipe out the human race. | |||
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"I think people are wired to desire sex. That's about it. Culturally we've created all sorts of confusion about what is 'right and wrong' sex. I expect there will be an increase in gay/bi people - but that will mostly be due to a change in attitudes rather than an actual increase in any kind of sexuality. I don't buy into the idea it's all black and white - people and life are too complex for that. How can gay sex be right? Man and woman were created to create other men and women. It's historical. Oh dear. Men and women were created. Gay sex is wrong. Honestly the most stupid statement I've ever read on here." seriously stupid | |||
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