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"Did they only have two 'Genders' to chose from? Male or Female" Yep apparently hermaphrodites can go either way,,,,, | |||
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"I'm 19.7 BMI And 9.6% body fat" You need a sausage injection....   | |||
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"I'm 19.7 BMI And 9.6% body fat You need a sausage injection.... "lols | |||
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"I'm 19.7 BMI And 9.6% body fat" How you calculating the body fat? I need to do mine and start shredding the fat off. Need to purchase this scale that calculates all that. Bit expensive though.  | |||
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"I'm 19.7 BMI And 9.6% body fat How you calculating the body fat? I need to do mine and start shredding the fat off. Need to purchase this scale that calculates all that. Bit expensive though. "Pinch test at the doctors | |||
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"I'm 19.7 BMI And 9.6% body fat You need a sausage injection.... "I do love a sausage now and then | |||
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"I'm 19.7 BMI And 9.6% body fat How you calculating the body fat? I need to do mine and start shredding the fat off. Need to purchase this scale that calculates all that. Bit expensive though. "The NHS calculator projects a result based on information provided relating to the persons gender, age, height, weight and basic lifestyle profile...
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"Did they only have two 'Genders' to chose from? Male or Female Yep apparently hermaphrodites can go either way,,,,, "Another serious question: Does it offend you? | |||
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"Did they only have two 'Genders' to chose from? Male or Female Yep apparently hermaphrodites can go either way,,,,,
Another serious question: Does it offend you?"OMG no...... lol...... I'm more than happy just being a bloke who gets his jollies rocking a frock...... I have absolutely no gender confusion issues at all... and I have no desire to be treated or accepted with female diplomacy... I'd classify myself as the quintessential embodiment of a recreational crossdresser rather than as someone trapped in a situation where their life-choices are driven by stronger motives..... ... | |||
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"Did they only have two 'Genders' to chose from? Male or Female Yep apparently hermaphrodites can go either way,,,,,
Another serious question: Does it offend you?
OMG no...... lol...... I'm more than happy just being a bloke who gets his jollies rocking a frock......
I have absolutely no gender confusion issues at all... and I have no desire to be treated or accepted with female diplomacy...
I'd classify myself as the quintessential embodiment of a recreational crossdresser rather than as someone trapped in a situation where their life-choices are driven by stronger motives..... ...
"Thats a serious answer. As a straight male, I see a form and just tick the box, never thought about it until this thread really. Glad it dosen't bother you | |||
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"I think the BMI thingy is a load of bollocks personally...but there you go "I concur. My son and I are roughly the same height - but he has a much thinner frame. Consequently, his BMI is 19 and mine isn't. It's okay as a guide - but shouldn't be used to make important decisions on like the fitting of gastric bands. | |||
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"I'm 19.7 BMI And 9.6% body fat How you calculating the body fat? I need to do mine and start shredding the fat off. Need to purchase this scale that calculates all that. Bit expensive though. "Those calculating scales are bullocks. You can vastly alter thier readings by drinking a few glasses of eater. Only way to get it done properly is to get calipiered all over. A lot of the big gyms have a guy come in one a week who offers the service | |||
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"I think the BMI thingy is a load of bollocks personally...but there you go "
If you go into boots drs etc they all come out with different BMI | |||
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"I think the BMI thingy is a load of bollocks personally...but there you go
If you go into boots drs etc they all come out with different BMI"Unless you use a different height or weight to calculate it, or get the calculations wrong, that's not actually possible | |||
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"I think the BMI thingy is a load of bollocks personally...but there you go "It is bollocks. It's far too simplistic because it doesn't factor in body composition. | |||
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"I think the BMI thingy is a load of bollocks personally...but there you go
It is bollocks.
It's far too simplistic because it doesn't factor in body composition. "That's only a major issue if your a bodybuilder/athlete. For the average person/unfit person it's perfectly suitable. | |||
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"I think the BMI thingy is a load of bollocks personally...but there you go
It is bollocks.
It's far too simplistic because it doesn't factor in body composition.
That's only a major issue if your a bodybuilder/athlete.
For the average person/unfit person it's perfectly suitable. "I disagree. BMI is, perhaps, a guideline but it's certainly no more than that. | |||
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"Although everyone knows BMI isn't an exact science I do think part of the reason it's so often dismissed now is because we've come to increasingly view overweight as normal." I agree with that to some extent but looking at Soxy's pictures he is not overweight. | |||
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"Although everyone knows BMI isn't an exact science I do think part of the reason it's so often dismissed now is because we've come to increasingly view overweight as normal. I agree with that to some extent but looking at Soxy's pictures he is not overweight. " Well he didn't look it a year ago admittedly. | |||
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"27.7 where's the tissues n orange juice... I need some comfort food!" I love the face I can see on your (BMI fat!) torso. | |||
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my BMI is 26.1, isn't it supposed to be between 20 and 25 ? | |||
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"According to the wii my BMI is 26.1, isn't it supposed to be between 20 and 25 ?"The Wii things set out in colour zones doesn't it and then it gives you the little tip about reducing your BMI. | |||
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"According to the wii my BMI is 26.1, isn't it supposed to be between 20 and 25 ?"I think it's between 18 and 25 to be within the healthy range. Mine is 18 and I'm just within it. | |||
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"27.7 where's the tissues n orange juice... I need some comfort food!" Eat me | |||
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"I use my pants as a guide,if I cant zip em up im overweight "I don't think I could make your pants zip up. | |||
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"I use my pants as a guide,if I cant zip em up im overweight
I don't think I could make your pants zip up."lol use your own | |||
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"I use my pants as a guide,if I cant zip em up im overweight "What if your pants have no zip? | |||
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"I use my pants as a guide,if I cant zip em up im overweight
I don't think I could make your pants zip up.lol use your own"I wore a pair last weekend and they managed to button and zip up. I must be within my acceptable range then. | |||
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"I use my pants as a guide,if I cant zip em up im overweight
What if your pants have no zip? "that's where it gets clever,use elasticated waist ones and you can eat a bit more | |||
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"I use my pants as a guide,if I cant zip em up im overweight
What if your pants have no zip? "Then they're comfy and if THEY don't manage to cover you then give up hope. | |||
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"I use my pants as a guide,if I cant zip em up im overweight
I don't think I could make your pants zip up.lol use your own
I wore a pair last weekend and they managed to button and zip up. I must be within my acceptable range then.
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"Belly fat for a man is very unhealthy." It's very unhealthy for women too. Pear-shaped is considered much less of a problem than "apple" shaped. | |||
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"BMI is outdated now. Acknowledged that it is not accurate. It only really applies to Mr or miss average. Very few of us are average. Better to get on a set of scales that measures mass, percentage body fat etc and look in the mirror. Belly fat for a man is very unhealthy. Try calipers to work out percentage fat etc "And age I think maybe too need to be factored in. Mine came out in the healthy range when I checked but quite near the line for underweight, yet I look down and think, no bloody way  made me feel uncomfortable to be honest | |||
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"Belly fat for a man is very unhealthy. It's very unhealthy for women too. Pear-shaped is considered much less of a problem than "apple" shaped." That's me fucked I have a belly  | |||
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" BMI is a very useful guide. Most people know when they're muscular or fat. The NHS appear to consider the waistline measurement as a better guids, which would fit better with the sportier build. On the matter of the healthiest "BMI", there are numerous, well accepted, research projects that conclude that the "healthiest" BMI range in the long term is the 25-30 range, around 27 for the optimum. Ill health following falls is a factor, some of us bounce lol. " 30 sounds pretty big (for me). So much conflicting info. Somebody was talking about how starving/fasting the body from time to time led to living longer - apparently the body likes the challenge. So that would endorse that maybe many of us should be much smaller than we now think is ideal. But then other studies suggest some excess is fine. Bottom line I guess is how you feel and deep down I think we tend to know when we're at our best or not. | |||
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"BMI (Body Mass Index) was developed years ago from studies of peoples height, weight etc and is only a guide line. A much better indication of health is apparently BVI (Body Volume Index) but this is much more difficult to measure, it used to be put you in water and see how much you displaced. Maybe with modern scanning/measuring machines such as those used in some high end clothes shops it will be easier if the NHS ever tried to use that technology. Short term use BMI only as a guide line and take other factors into consideration i.e. lifestyle, blood pressure and pinch test." Yes and it works great as a quick rough guide line.....if I was seriously worried about my health /weight I'd go see my gp who I assume would give me a more accurate indication. | |||
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"I'm 19.7 BMI And 9.6% body fat" and wasted away to nothing by the no longer here note. poor devil. | |||
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"I'm 19.7 BMI And 9.6% body fat and wasted away to nothing by the no longer here note. poor devil." Lol!!! | |||
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"We have one of those electronic scales that tells us our bmi, fat % and water content, but I still prefer to use my tried and tested method: Walk towards the wall with an erection, if your belly hits before your willy, it's diet time. (Women, you can use your nipples) (Having said that, I'm worried that knowing I'm only 10 n a bit stone, you'll all have deduced I only have a 2-inch cock )
Mr ddc"Mr DDC, I hadn't worked out whether your belly hit the wall yet, as haven't checked your height. A 3'6'' guy may still have a bit of a belly at 10 and a bit stone. | |||
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" Mr ddc Mr DDC, I hadn't worked out whether your belly hit the wall yet, as haven't checked your height. A 3'6'' guy may still have a bit of a belly at 10 and a bit stone. " Well, let's just say I didn't need to use a size 12 wellie in that fishing pic... | |||
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" Mr ddc Mr DDC, I hadn't worked out whether your belly hit the wall yet, as haven't checked your height. A 3'6'' guy may still have a bit of a belly at 10 and a bit stone. Well, let's just say I didn't need to use a size 12 wellie in that fishing pic... "I'd forgotten how incredible your pics are, the DDCs, so it was great to take a peek again. I'm applying for European funding for further photographic expeditions, just in case we leave Europe. We need you by a Cockermouth road sign, though it's a trek there. | |||
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"I use my pants as a guide,if I cant zip em up im overweight "Or over time they have shrunk in the wash.. | |||
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"I think the BMI thingy is a load of bollocks personally...but there you go "Personally speaking, mine (yes, plural) don't help my BMI look too favourable. I would think any "load" would have minimal effect on the score. | |||
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it" I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ? | |||
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ?" I haven't been in a gym in years..... | |||
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ?" . Because 16 stone is 16 stone to your knees, back, ankles, heart....... They don't know it's fat or muscle they just know it's 16 stone of weight! | |||
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ?. Because 16 stone is 16 stone to your knees, back, ankles, heart....... They don't know it's fat or muscle they just know it's 16 stone of weight!" Surely, you overlook the purpose of muscle? Whilst nowhere near 16st (divorced now lol) (still lolling) my knees, back, ankles, other joints and heart are doing fine. Excellent tongue too fwiw. | |||
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ?. Because 16 stone is 16 stone to your knees, back, ankles, heart....... They don't know it's fat or muscle they just know it's 16 stone of weight!" Distributed differently though. 16 stone of muscle will have a lot of that in his legs 16 of fat will have most of it on the front of the upper body | |||
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ? I haven't been in a gym in years....." But I'm guessing you aren't sat on your arse all day stuffing your face. ... | |||
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"BMI is bollocks Doesn't account for muscle weight (which is heavier than fat) Boob size for the ladies out there. It's completely rubbish. Accordingng to my BMI I'm on the top end of obese " As i said it isn't designed for those who have muscles. ...is designed for fatties like me! | |||
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"BMI is bollocks Doesn't account for muscle weight (which is heavier than fat) Boob size for the ladies out there. It's completely rubbish. Accordingng to my BMI I'm on the top end of obese As i said it isn't designed for those who have muscles. ...is designed for fatties like me!" When these people come in going "rahhh it's rubbish I've got muscle and 10% body fat but it days I'm obese etc etc" my mind goes to someone sticking a meat thermometer into a bathtub and saying it's useless because it doesn't give them an accurate temperature of the bath. Or saying a Ferrari is useless because it didn't survive being taken green laning | |||
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"BMI is bollocks Doesn't account for muscle weight (which is heavier than fat) Boob size for the ladies out there. It's completely rubbish. Accordingng to my BMI I'm on the top end of obese As i said it isn't designed for those who have muscles. ...is designed for fatties like me!" First... Your not a fattie
Second... I'm not that muscular, I'm just interestingly proportioned... But not in any way obese. (though I do love friedchicken... Maybe it's that)
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ?. Because 16 stone is 16 stone to your knees, back, ankles, heart....... They don't know it's fat or muscle they just know it's 16 stone of weight! Distributed differently though. 16 stone of muscle will have a lot of that in his legs 16 of fat will have most of it on the front of the upper body" Have you been in Asda late at night recently...... Two words..... BACK BOOBS  | |||
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ?. Because 16 stone is 16 stone to your knees, back, ankles, heart....... They don't know it's fat or muscle they just know it's 16 stone of weight! Distributed differently though. 16 stone of muscle will have a lot of that in his legs 16 of fat will have most of it on the front of the upper body Have you been in Asda late at night recently...... Two words..... BACK BOOBS "True admittedly people are now seemingly running our of places to put the fat. | |||
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ?. Because 16 stone is 16 stone to your knees, back, ankles, heart....... They don't know it's fat or muscle they just know it's 16 stone of weight! Distributed differently though. 16 stone of muscle will have a lot of that in his legs 16 of fat will have most of it on the front of the upper body Have you been in Asda late at night recently...... Two words..... BACK BOOBS
True admittedly people are now seemingly running our of places to put the fat."Don't think there's any running going on.... Unless it's their nose... | |||
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ?. Because 16 stone is 16 stone to your knees, back, ankles, heart....... They don't know it's fat or muscle they just know it's 16 stone of weight! Distributed differently though. 16 stone of muscle will have a lot of that in his legs 16 of fat will have most of it on the front of the upper body Have you been in Asda late at night recently...... Two words..... BACK BOOBS
True admittedly people are now seemingly running our of places to put the fat.
Don't think there's any running going on.... Unless it's their nose..."In theory, fat people should be good marathon runners. Rather like a supertanker at sea they only need to actually run the first 100 metres. | |||
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"BMI is bollocks Doesn't account for muscle weight (which is heavier than fat) Boob size for the ladies out there. It's completely rubbish. Accordingng to my BMI I'm on the top end of obese As i said it isn't designed for those who have muscles. ...is designed for fatties like me! First... Your not a fattie
Second... I'm not that muscular, I'm just interestingly proportioned... But not in any way obese. (though I do love friedchicken... Maybe it's that)
"Well at 5ft 5 and 11 stone 10 I'd say i'm fat. There is no muscle there as i do fuck all exercise so it has to be fat. Fact. I accept i was obese before i lost weight. I'm now overweight andi accept that too. I feel it and I look it. There is no hiding from it. Maybe there is something in the comment of maybe we are just used to seeing overweight people these days? | |||
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"i think the vast majority of people can work out if they are their ideal body weight or not without the need of a chart" I'm not so sure. ..There are many delusional people out there | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25? "Too much chicken. | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25? "Not enough milking | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25?
Too much chicken. "lol yes, recon your right there. | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25?
Not enough milking "Yeah I got some reserves left and not dry yet lol. | |||
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"Bmi calculator pha! I don't wanna be in my ideal weight for my height witch is 6-7st 10St is perfect for me x " actually is 6 st 14 to 9st 7 for your height (if you are 5 ft1 as your profile says ) so you aren't far off if you are 10st! | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25?
Not enough milking Yeah I got some reserves left and not dry yet lol."Empty that tank baby | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25?
Not enough milking Yeah I got some reserves left and not dry yet lol.
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"They also use a muscle density test now too. BMI has me as being overweight........ Even though the Doc has changed my meds to up the density. 13" drop and she's hugely happy with progress so something is really wrong with how they calculate it I think it's more designed for people that are basically just fat with little muscle density to be honest. ...why would someone who is fit and goes to the gym regularly really need to worry about their bmi? ?. Because 16 stone is 16 stone to your knees, back, ankles, heart....... They don't know it's fat or muscle they just know it's 16 stone of weight! Distributed differently though. 16 stone of muscle will have a lot of that in his legs 16 of fat will have most of it on the front of the upper body" . Unless you weigh 12 stone below the knee your knees are still carrying more weight than what they were designed for!. Some people are naturally big and will be "designed" to be big, some people will be designed for a natural body weight of say 11 stone, now they may weigh 16 stone and be pure muscle!!! But their still 5 stone over their natural design weight. That's the equivalent of carrying a small child around on your shoulders all day every day for your entire life. Now I've also met some gym junkies that are quite unfit as well as being overweight muscle wise, throw in the fact there carrying 5 stone of excess weight? Personally speaking with no scientific back up, every old person I've met that's lasted well has been 1 small 2 light 3 neither an exerciser nor a slob 4 ate well | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25? ". Because it isn't actually working out your mass. To do that you would have to get in a bath of water and see how much it rises when you submerge, work out your mass and then weight and that should give you a better idea,..... I think the NHS think that's beyond the average Wally so they just give the rough bmi calculator, which I admit is flawed | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25? .
Because it isn't actually working out your mass.
To do that you would have to get in a bath of water and see how much it rises when you submerge, work out your mass and then weight and that should give you a better idea,..... I think the NHS think that's beyond the average Wally so they just give the rough bmi calculator, which I admit is flawed"YEs that's right a bath of water thingy would be more accurate to measure it, yeah I think the same its kinda flawed to, but its kinda fun to use tho. | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose? "Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws. My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman. | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose? "Possibly. There's enough guides to show what body fat % range to be for men and women and enough calculators out there that eventually lead you to the bmi calculator. As I say, if it's good enough for Doctors to use its good enough for me. | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman."What's your body fat %? | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?"Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant. | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25? .
Because it isn't actually working out your mass.
To do that you would have to get in a bath of water and see how much it rises when you submerge, work out your mass and then weight and that should give you a better idea,..... I think the NHS think that's beyond the average Wally so they just give the rough bmi calculator, which I admit is flawedYEs that's right a bath of water thingy would be more accurate to measure it, yeah I think the same its kinda flawed to, but its kinda fun to use tho.". Nothing wrong with it as a rough guide, I just wouldn't get hung up about being just under/over guidelines. Bruce Lee was 5ft 8 in tall and weighed roughly 10 stone and nobody could argue he wasnt 1 muscular 2 strong 3 over weight 4 unfit | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant."No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down. | |||
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" - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym. " I disagree. I;m the +4 hours mark, it (the BMI) fits me fine, and i'd also say that it would fit 90% of the other gym users too. The number of overly muscled strong men, and one woman, i know of, are the exception not the rule. No-one is saying it isn't flawed but for the vast majority, it's fine. Why hasn't something better superceded it? | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down. "Are you looking at the healthy scales for a woman? Average for a woman is 25 - 31% so at the moment I am the lower range of average, but usually in the fitness percentage range... But thanks for trying to belittle my knowledge. | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down. "You talk some crap - the % difference between men and women with regards to body fat is massive. The point at which abs appear is almost double in a woman than a man for starters.... 21-22% is low for a female. Don't make the mistake of comparing like for like because it doesn't work. | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down. "25% is not very high for women lol. You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests? They're actually pretty much all fat. So you can't really compare them to the male scale. | |||
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" - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym. I disagree. I;m the +4 hours mark, it (the BMI) fits me fine, and i'd also say that it would fit 90% of the other gym users too. The number of overly muscled strong men, and one woman, i know of, are the exception not the rule. No-one is saying it isn't flawed but for the vast majority, it's fine. Why hasn't something better superceded it? " So why do NHS practitioners state themselves it is only a guideline and not suitable if you work out more than moderately 4 hours a week? | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
Are you looking at the healthy scales for a woman? Average for a woman is 25 - 31% so at the moment I am the lower range of average, but usually in the fitness percentage range... But thanks for trying to belittle my knowledge.
"That's precisely why the BNI is important. The "average" for a woman is 25-31% is meaningless when there are some huge women (and men tbf) who bring the average up a lot. Some of whom would simply die but for medical intervention. To extrapolate that, if a few at the top end got even fatter, those like yourself could eat a lot more as you would be even further below the "average". That's gonna end well ain't it? To cure the nations timebomb that is Obesity and related ill-health let's just move the BMI scale for normal/average upto 50 and adjust the others accordingly. There, fixed. | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale."I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
Are you looking at the healthy scales for a woman? Average for a woman is 25 - 31% so at the moment I am the lower range of average, but usually in the fitness percentage range... But thanks for trying to belittle my knowledge.
That's precisely why the BNI is important.
The "average" for a woman is 25-31% is meaningless when there are some huge women (and men tbf) who bring the average up a lot. Some of whom would simply die but for medical intervention.
To extrapolate that, if a few at the top end got even fatter, those like yourself could eat a lot more as you would be even further below the "average". That's gonna end well ain't it?
To cure the nations timebomb that is Obesity and related ill-health let's just move the BMI scale for normal/average upto 50 and adjust the others accordingly.
There, fixed."I never said lets alter the BMI scale... I was saying that the NHS guide for healthy body fat on a lady is 21 - 31% above 32% is obese - they class the 25 - 31% range as average, and under 21% is underfat, and remember that is a percentage of someones body taking into account their hydration, muscle mass etc... not just some chat about height and weight. BMI is flawed which is widely acknowledged. | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25? .
Because it isn't actually working out your mass.
To do that you would have to get in a bath of water and see how much it rises when you submerge, work out your mass and then weight and that should give you a better idea,..... I think the NHS think that's beyond the average Wally so they just give the rough bmi calculator, which I admit is flawedYEs that's right a bath of water thingy would be more accurate to measure it, yeah I think the same its kinda flawed to, but its kinda fun to use tho.". Out of curiosity shag ... What's your height and weight | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol". Id say it's the first thing that's drained.... | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol"Not that's built leans definition of the level of fat that a woman should have for "fitness" the "healthy" range for women is much higher up to the 29 range with over weight kicking in a fair bit over 30. | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol
Not that's built leans definition of the level of fat that a woman should have for "fitness" the "healthy" range for women is much higher up to the 29 range with over weight kicking in a fair bit over 30.
"Fitness is fitness. Average is average, less healthy. Sure you could be 29% but that'll shoot your BMI up. And you'll notice the difference in the clothes you wear. | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol.
Id say it's the first thing that's drained.... "Not always a bad thing... | |||
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" Id say it's the first thing that's drained.... "Certainly was when I lost weight... from a 46GG to a much smaller 32DD But I don't mind I feel so much healthier now having lost 18 stone over 5 years... hence knowing my stuff about body fat and BMI etc - and I'd rather be average and nice still than perfect as some people seem to be | |||
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" Id say it's the first thing that's drained....
Certainly was when I lost weight... from a 46GG to a much smaller 32DD
But I don't mind I feel so much healthier now having lost 18 stone over 5 years... hence knowing my stuff about body fat and BMI etc - and I'd rather be average and nice still than perfect as some people seem to be ". 18 stone that's amazing... Well done you, it's never an easy feat! I think weight loss really needs to be looked at as a life style change instead of a diet and I think that's the bit that people don't like as nobody likes change! | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol
Not that's built leans definition of the level of fat that a woman should have for "fitness" the "healthy" range for women is much higher up to the 29 range with over weight kicking in a fair bit over 30.
Fitness is fitness. Average is average, less healthy. Sure you could be 29% but that'll shoot your BMI up. And you'll notice the difference in the clothes you wear. "No that "fitness" is a fitness websites definition especially centered around its marketing. You were talking about healthy which medical extends up towards 30% which depending on your body composition may or may not "shoot your bmi up" But before you said her bf was "No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down" It's not "very high" it's currently slap bang in the middle of the "healthy range". You really should take what you read on these "fitness" websites and magazines with a healthy (heh) pinch of salt. They have to keep changing things and moving goals or no one would keep viewing/buying them. | |||
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" Id say it's the first thing that's drained....
Certainly was when I lost weight... from a 46GG to a much smaller 32DD
But I don't mind I feel so much healthier now having lost 18 stone over 5 years... hence knowing my stuff about body fat and BMI etc - and I'd rather be average and nice still than perfect as some people seem to be .
18 stone that's amazing... Well done you, it's never an easy feat!
I think weight loss really needs to be looked at as a life style change instead of a diet and I think that's the bit that people don't like as nobody likes change!"I'm with you on that one! This time being successful with weight loss, I never "dieted" (they simply don't work or weight watchers etc would be out of business - they are short term faddy sixes) but made some pretty damn substantial life changes... one of them training as a gym instructor (only level 2) just now, learning to teach a yoga, tai chi and pilates inspired class... and will be doing my level 3 with special certificates after I do my works post grad for my day job! There are only so many hours free as a single mum! | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol
Not that's built leans definition of the level of fat that a woman should have for "fitness" the "healthy" range for women is much higher up to the 29 range with over weight kicking in a fair bit over 30.
Fitness is fitness. Average is average, less healthy. Sure you could be 29% but that'll shoot your BMI up. And you'll notice the difference in the clothes you wear.
No that "fitness" is a fitness websites definition especially centered around its marketing. You were talking about healthy which medical extends up towards 30% which depending on your body composition may or may not "shoot your bmi up"
But before you said her bf was
"No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down"
It's not "very high" it's currently slap bang in the middle of the "healthy range".
You really should take what you read on these "fitness" websites and magazines with a healthy (heh) pinch of salt.
They have to keep changing things and moving goals or no one would keep viewing/buying them."No point arguing with an idiot - he'll just beat you with experience Thx.... There's only so many times he can contradict himself before he runs into himself from behind going round in circle | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25? .
Because it isn't actually working out your mass.
To do that you would have to get in a bath of water and see how much it rises when you submerge, work out your mass and then weight and that should give you a better idea,..... I think the NHS think that's beyond the average Wally so they just give the rough bmi calculator, which I admit is flawedYEs that's right a bath of water thingy would be more accurate to measure it, yeah I think the same its kinda flawed to, but its kinda fun to use tho..
Out of curiosity shag ... What's your height and weight"I am 5.10 and 180lbs. | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25? .
Because it isn't actually working out your mass.
To do that you would have to get in a bath of water and see how much it rises when you submerge, work out your mass and then weight and that should give you a better idea,..... I think the NHS think that's beyond the average Wally so they just give the rough bmi calculator, which I admit is flawedYEs that's right a bath of water thingy would be more accurate to measure it, yeah I think the same its kinda flawed to, but its kinda fun to use tho..
Out of curiosity shag ... What's your height and weightI am 5.10 and 180lbs."Thought you were Swedish and young(ish) What's with the lbs? You'd think most would use kg's as it's a smaller number. | |||
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"I just took it and here is my results: Body mass index (BMI) = 25.5 OVERWEIGHT. It doesn't take into consideration that people do weights and got muscles, well my bodyfat is 10% so how can my bmi be 25? .
Because it isn't actually working out your mass.
To do that you would have to get in a bath of water and see how much it rises when you submerge, work out your mass and then weight and that should give you a better idea,..... I think the NHS think that's beyond the average Wally so they just give the rough bmi calculator, which I admit is flawedYEs that's right a bath of water thingy would be more accurate to measure it, yeah I think the same its kinda flawed to, but its kinda fun to use tho..
Out of curiosity shag ... What's your height and weightI am 5.10 and 180lbs.
Thought you were Swedish and young(ish)
What's with the lbs?
You'd think most would use kg's as it's a smaller number.
"Yes I am Swedish lol yeah as most bodybulders use lbs when weighing themselves you know, its 81kg in kgs tho. | |||
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"Apparently I have to lose a stone...bit harsh I thought
Just leave it on the beach and tell the kids to stop collecting them "Ha blasted children | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol
Not that's built leans definition of the level of fat that a woman should have for "fitness" the "healthy" range for women is much higher up to the 29 range with over weight kicking in a fair bit over 30.
Fitness is fitness. Average is average, less healthy. Sure you could be 29% but that'll shoot your BMI up. And you'll notice the difference in the clothes you wear.
No that "fitness" is a fitness websites definition especially centered around its marketing. You were talking about healthy which medical extends up towards 30% which depending on your body composition may or may not "shoot your bmi up"
But before you said her bf was
"No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down"
It's not "very high" it's currently slap bang in the middle of the "healthy range".
You really should take what you read on these "fitness" websites and magazines with a healthy (heh) pinch of salt.
They have to keep changing things and moving goals or no one would keep viewing/buying them."Actually dude I'm not reading it from fitness websites it's from various sources and doctors. And with all the information I've gathered, it's got me to where I am now. Very healthy, fit and at a great weight and body fat %. Thank you very much. | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol
Not that's built leans definition of the level of fat that a woman should have for "fitness" the "healthy" range for women is much higher up to the 29 range with over weight kicking in a fair bit over 30.
Fitness is fitness. Average is average, less healthy. Sure you could be 29% but that'll shoot your BMI up. And you'll notice the difference in the clothes you wear.
No that "fitness" is a fitness websites definition especially centered around its marketing. You were talking about healthy which medical extends up towards 30% which depending on your body composition may or may not "shoot your bmi up"
But before you said her bf was
"No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down"
It's not "very high" it's currently slap bang in the middle of the "healthy range".
You really should take what you read on these "fitness" websites and magazines with a healthy (heh) pinch of salt.
They have to keep changing things and moving goals or no one would keep viewing/buying them.
Actually dude I'm not reading it from fitness websites it's from various sources and doctors.
And with all the information I've gathered, it's got me to where I am now. Very healthy, fit and at a great weight and body fat %. Thank you very much. "So your now ignoring how you've said she has a very high body fat and isn't in the healthy range? Given shes slap bang in the middle of the medical healthy range for women. And your not your getting it from built lean lol as they're the only place that uses the 24% definition for women. Interestingly the same place that outs that range for men as topping out at 17%. From you pic your 19-20% at best. | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol
Not that's built leans definition of the level of fat that a woman should have for "fitness" the "healthy" range for women is much higher up to the 29 range with over weight kicking in a fair bit over 30.
Fitness is fitness. Average is average, less healthy. Sure you could be 29% but that'll shoot your BMI up. And you'll notice the difference in the clothes you wear.
No that "fitness" is a fitness websites definition especially centered around its marketing. You were talking about healthy which medical extends up towards 30% which depending on your body composition may or may not "shoot your bmi up"
But before you said her bf was
"No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down"
It's not "very high" it's currently slap bang in the middle of the "healthy range".
You really should take what you read on these "fitness" websites and magazines with a healthy (heh) pinch of salt.
They have to keep changing things and moving goals or no one would keep viewing/buying them.
Actually dude I'm not reading it from fitness websites it's from various sources and doctors.
And with all the information I've gathered, it's got me to where I am now. Very healthy, fit and at a great weight and body fat %. Thank you very much.
So your now ignoring how you've said she has a very high body fat and isn't in the healthy range? Given shes slap bang in the middle of the medical healthy range for women.
And your not your getting it from built lean lol as they're the only place that uses the 24% definition for women.
Interestingly the same place that outs that range for men as topping out at 17%.
From you pic your 19-20% at best."Actually no I'm 17%. Thanks. look you're wrong again.... | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol
Not that's built leans definition of the level of fat that a woman should have for "fitness" the "healthy" range for women is much higher up to the 29 range with over weight kicking in a fair bit over 30.
Fitness is fitness. Average is average, less healthy. Sure you could be 29% but that'll shoot your BMI up. And you'll notice the difference in the clothes you wear.
No that "fitness" is a fitness websites definition especially centered around its marketing. You were talking about healthy which medical extends up towards 30% which depending on your body composition may or may not "shoot your bmi up"
But before you said her bf was
"No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down"
It's not "very high" it's currently slap bang in the middle of the "healthy range".
You really should take what you read on these "fitness" websites and magazines with a healthy (heh) pinch of salt.
They have to keep changing things and moving goals or no one would keep viewing/buying them.
Actually dude I'm not reading it from fitness websites it's from various sources and doctors.
And with all the information I've gathered, it's got me to where I am now. Very healthy, fit and at a great weight and body fat %. Thank you very much.
So your now ignoring how you've said she has a very high body fat and isn't in the healthy range? Given shes slap bang in the middle of the medical healthy range for women.
And your not your getting it from built lean lol as they're the only place that uses the 24% definition for women.
Interestingly the same place that outs that range for men as topping out at 17%.
From you pic your 19-20% at best.
Actually no I'm 17%. Thanks. look you're wrong again.... "17%? At your height and build? As you can tell many of us doubt that very much.... And FYI - many of us have far more knowledge on the subject than you obviously do..... | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol
Not that's built leans definition of the level of fat that a woman should have for "fitness" the "healthy" range for women is much higher up to the 29 range with over weight kicking in a fair bit over 30.
Fitness is fitness. Average is average, less healthy. Sure you could be 29% but that'll shoot your BMI up. And you'll notice the difference in the clothes you wear.
No that "fitness" is a fitness websites definition especially centered around its marketing. You were talking about healthy which medical extends up towards 30% which depending on your body composition may or may not "shoot your bmi up"
But before you said her bf was
"No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down"
It's not "very high" it's currently slap bang in the middle of the "healthy range".
You really should take what you read on these "fitness" websites and magazines with a healthy (heh) pinch of salt.
They have to keep changing things and moving goals or no one would keep viewing/buying them.
Actually dude I'm not reading it from fitness websites it's from various sources and doctors.
And with all the information I've gathered, it's got me to where I am now. Very healthy, fit and at a great weight and body fat %. Thank you very much.
So your now ignoring how you've said she has a very high body fat and isn't in the healthy range? Given shes slap bang in the middle of the medical healthy range for women.
And your not your getting it from built lean lol as they're the only place that uses the 24% definition for women.
Interestingly the same place that outs that range for men as topping out at 17%.
From you pic your 19-20% at best.
Actually no I'm 17%. Thanks. look you're wrong again....
17%?
At your height and build?
As you can tell many of us doubt that very much....
And FYI - many of us have far more knowledge on the subject than you obviously do....."Oh FFS p*ss off you absolute troll | |||
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" Would it be a fair summary to say that those who think least of the BMI have the most to lose?
Nope, I think its an awful scale as well - and does not work if you spend more than an average 4 hours a week in the gym, so they admit is has flaws.
My GP thinks its mad too... I usually sit somewhere on the upper normal to overweight scale - i'm a size 10 woman.
What's your body fat %?
Right now, about 25% - I've not been able to train this month, but its normally about the 21-22% - but as the question was about BMI scale and not % of body fat, that is fairly irrelevant.
No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down.
25% is not very high for women lol.
You know those weird but kinda lovely lumps they have on their chests?
They're actually pretty much all fat.
So you can't really compare them to the male scale.
I'm going by the female scale. 25% is in the very average scale. Being fit/healthy range is around 20-24. But even 1% can make a big difference. Having big puppies is rare in slimmer ladies, no? Lol
Not that's built leans definition of the level of fat that a woman should have for "fitness" the "healthy" range for women is much higher up to the 29 range with over weight kicking in a fair bit over 30.
Fitness is fitness. Average is average, less healthy. Sure you could be 29% but that'll shoot your BMI up. And you'll notice the difference in the clothes you wear.
No that "fitness" is a fitness websites definition especially centered around its marketing. You were talking about healthy which medical extends up towards 30% which depending on your body composition may or may not "shoot your bmi up"
But before you said her bf was
"No it's not irrelevant that's why I asked. Your % is very high. If it was in a healthy range and you had sufficient water % and muscle it would bring your bmi down"
It's not "very high" it's currently slap bang in the middle of the "healthy range".
You really should take what you read on these "fitness" websites and magazines with a healthy (heh) pinch of salt.
They have to keep changing things and moving goals or no one would keep viewing/buying them.
Actually dude I'm not reading it from fitness websites it's from various sources and doctors.
And with all the information I've gathered, it's got me to where I am now. Very healthy, fit and at a great weight and body fat %. Thank you very much.
So your now ignoring how you've said she has a very high body fat and isn't in the healthy range? Given shes slap bang in the middle of the medical healthy range for women.
And your not your getting it from built lean lol as they're the only place that uses the 24% definition for women.
Interestingly the same place that outs that range for men as topping out at 17%.
From you pic your 19-20% at best.
Actually no I'm 17%. Thanks. look you're wrong again.... "Hahaha...No. See your pic you're basically completely smooth? That doesn't happen below 20%. At 17% we'd be seeing some pretty clear definition. Especially on an "athletic" guy at 6ft. | |||
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"on paper ive always been overweight - if i ever got to what i 'should be' i would look awful - ive been about a stone above what they say and if i could maintain that id be happy and look slim - i need to lose about 1/2 stone but im not overly bothered - i know when i carry too much because i physically feel crap and i feel fine - " Iirc it's the hip to waist ratio that's helpful as a quick rule of thumb guide for women. But I can't remember the target range a Google should find it though | |||
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"on paper ive always been overweight - if i ever got to what i 'should be' i would look awful - ive been about a stone above what they say and if i could maintain that id be happy and look slim - i need to lose about 1/2 stone but im not overly bothered - i know when i carry too much because i physically feel crap and i feel fine - Iirc it's the hip to waist ratio that's helpful as a quick rule of thumb guide for women. But I can't remember the target range a Google should find it though" Waist to height ratio too, i.e. the circumference of your waist should be less than half your height. (I like that one because I always pass the test ) | |||
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"on paper ive always been overweight - if i ever got to what i 'should be' i would look awful - ive been about a stone above what they say and if i could maintain that id be happy and look slim - i need to lose about 1/2 stone but im not overly bothered - i know when i carry too much because i physically feel crap and i feel fine - Iirc it's the hip to waist ratio that's helpful as a quick rule of thumb guide for women. But I can't remember the target range a Google should find it though Waist to height ratio too, i.e. the circumference of your waist should be less than half your height. (I like that one because I always pass the test )"Wearing your heels is cheating you know | |||
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"on paper ive always been overweight - if i ever got to what i 'should be' i would look awful - ive been about a stone above what they say and if i could maintain that id be happy and look slim - i need to lose about 1/2 stone but im not overly bothered - i know when i carry too much because i physically feel crap and i feel fine - Iirc it's the hip to waist ratio that's helpful as a quick rule of thumb guide for women. But I can't remember the target range a Google should find it though Waist to height ratio too, i.e. the circumference of your waist should be less than half your height. (I like that one because I always pass the test )
Wearing your heels is cheating you know "It is? Ah shite, I'd best take these stilts off. | |||
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"on paper ive always been overweight - if i ever got to what i 'should be' i would look awful - ive been about a stone above what they say and if i could maintain that id be happy and look slim - i need to lose about 1/2 stone but im not overly bothered - i know when i carry too much because i physically feel crap and i feel fine - Iirc it's the hip to waist ratio that's helpful as a quick rule of thumb guide for women. But I can't remember the target range a Google should find it though Waist to height ratio too, i.e. the circumference of your waist should be less than half your height. (I like that one because I always pass the test )"i like that as i have a very definite waist and always have - i think its when you carry excess weight around your middle which is over your main organs that causes most problems - im not sure on that though | |||
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"on paper ive always been overweight - if i ever got to what i 'should be' i would look awful - ive been about a stone above what they say and if i could maintain that id be happy and look slim - i need to lose about 1/2 stone but im not overly bothered - i know when i carry too much because i physically feel crap and i feel fine - Iirc it's the hip to waist ratio that's helpful as a quick rule of thumb guide for women. But I can't remember the target range a Google should find it though Waist to height ratio too, i.e. the circumference of your waist should be less than half your height. (I like that one because I always pass the test )
i like that as i have a very definite waist and always have - i think its when you carry excess weight around your middle which is over your main organs that causes most problems - im not sure on that though "Yes that is the main danger area with fat. | |||
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"on paper ive always been overweight - if i ever got to what i 'should be' i would look awful - ive been about a stone above what they say and if i could maintain that id be happy and look slim - i need to lose about 1/2 stone but im not overly bothered - i know when i carry too much because i physically feel crap and i feel fine - Iirc it's the hip to waist ratio that's helpful as a quick rule of thumb guide for women. But I can't remember the target range a Google should find it though Waist to height ratio too, i.e. the circumference of your waist should be less than half your height. (I like that one because I always pass the test )
i like that as i have a very definite waist and always have - i think its when you carry excess weight around your middle which is over your main organs that causes most problems - im not sure on that though
Yes that is the main danger area with fat.
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