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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man " Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero! | |||
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"She has a very big mouth and is not afraid to voice her opinions,im surprised she didn't say anything at the time" Exactly what I said. She's never been shy @ coming forward with anything else x | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero!" ...and there goes your chance of any fun or frolics in the future with ANY woman on here. Oh dear... | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero!" Good god some of them were children ...... | |||
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"I've always found VF rather sexy!" | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man " actually she isn't the only celebrity to come out and say she was touched up.... linda nolan has said the same thing today... so before we start with the feltz bashing consider there are probably ther | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero! -)" Grooming children for sex is a minor crime in your eyes is it ? | |||
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"I've always found VF rather sexy!" Having watched her work at close quarters in the past I am of the opinion that she is a foul mouthed hypocritical self aggrandising hag who would happily stoop so low as to jump on this or any other bandwagon she felt would further her career. But each to their own | |||
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"I've always found VF rather sexy! Having watched her work at close quarters in the past I am of the opinion that she is a foul mouthed hypocritical self aggrandising hag who would happily stoop so low as to jump on this or any other bandwagon she felt would further her career. But each to their own" Succinct. | |||
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"Nothing like this surprises me anymore sadly. I have no idea of the truth but whatever it is, it is a sad state of affairs " i think it is a shame and sad that people are using this to attack them and mock them for this..... | |||
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"Surely there would have been lots of people to witness this as they were filming at the time" nobody in the industry is going to shout out and be considered a trouble maker. I once had a conversation about celebs with a journalist who told me the inside stories on many celebs including George Michael and Barrymore long before the stories came out. He told me that certain celebs ( Rolf would have been one) are untouchable because they play the media game ie readily available for inter_iews etc. once the story breaks, it is open season and all the stories come out in a torrent. There are many more names he mentioned that I can't repeat. Suffice to say he has been correct every time so far. Their status can help to cover up a hell of a lot | |||
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"Nothing like this surprises me anymore sadly. I have no idea of the truth but whatever it is, it is a sad state of affairs i think it is a shame and sad that people are using this to attack them and mock them for this..... " I agree It's all part of the sad state of affairs. | |||
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"Surely there would have been lots of people to witness this as they were filming at the timenobody in the industry is going to shout out and be considered a trouble maker. I once had a conversation about celebs with a journalist who told me the inside stories on many celebs including George Michael and Barrymore long before the stories came out. He told me that certain celebs ( Rolf would have been one) are untouchable because they play the media game ie readily available for inter_iews etc. once the story breaks, it is open season and all the stories come out in a torrent. There are many more names he mentioned that I can't repeat. Suffice to say he has been correct every time so far. Their status can help to cover up a hell of a lot" I suppose so....and from what has been going on , ie the Saville thing it does sound the case and if honest can understand why....but....I am just surprised that if it happened so open then why didn't someone say oiii what are you doing....it just seems odd that not one soul would say anything if they see it at the time. | |||
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"Well the little man here certainly has no chance is now of getting laid or rimmed. As for Vanessa - she not everyones cup of tea but she doesn't deserve the trolls x And as for RH I hope they increase his sentence cos it works out to 5 months per charge. He committed sexual crimes n is a pedophile. Very serious crimes for which he should be locked up. No doubt Rose west is a sweet old lady who wouldn't hurt a fly now but I wouldn't let her out into normal society. So to say he isn't dangerous to society and the sentence is too long is wrong. Thank goodness you are not in charge of our justice system. " | |||
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"Well the little man here certainly has no chance is now of getting laid or rimmed. As for Vanessa - she not everyones cup of tea but she doesn't deserve the trolls x And as for RH I hope they increase his sentence cos it works out to 5 months per charge. He committed sexual crimes n is a pedophile. Very serious crimes for which he should be locked up. No doubt Rose west is a sweet old lady who wouldn't hurt a fly now but I wouldn't let her out into normal society. So to say he isn't dangerous to society and the sentence is too long is wrong. Thank goodness you are not in charge of our justice system. " thank you saved my fingers | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero!" What a deplorable point of _iew. | |||
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"I've always found VF rather sexy!" Should have gone to SpecSavers | |||
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"Why, when someone goes against the consensus of opinion are the labelled trolls? I think shes a cunt. Having said that, Rolf abusing girls is a totally diffetent stick of treacle." Trolls weren't mentioned | |||
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"She has a very big mouth and is not afraid to voice her opinions,im surprised she didn't say anything at the time" A bit like you then | |||
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"Amazing. I didnt think there would be much left to surprise me on this site but for someone to publicly defend a convicted nonce with the belief that interfering with children is a minor crime is quite disturbing Gimp" Shocking. | |||
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" As for Vanessa - she not everyones cup of tea but she doesn't deserve the trolls x" Troll? | |||
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"Couldn't be reported during the trial because of subjudicy. Many of the woman celebs that have came forward have been vilified. Easy to understand why they kept quiet at the time" Yes you can understand why. | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero!" And you deserve an even longer sentence for comments like that fella, disgraceful. | |||
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"Wonder what some people would think if it was someone they knew had been abused this way ....." Yes i dont like vanessa feltz but doesnt mean i think she was wrong to mention it. | |||
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" As for Vanessa - she not everyones cup of tea but she doesn't deserve the trolls x Troll?" On twitter | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero! ...and there goes your chance of any fun or frolics in the future with ANY woman on here. Oh dear... " ikr lol | |||
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"Wonder what some people would think if it was someone they knew had been abused this way ....." I would ask why she hadny mentioned it sooner. | |||
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"plus she is a BBW and they are all beautiful unless they are NOT on a swingers site" | |||
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"She has a very big mouth and is not afraid to voice her opinions,im surprised she didn't say anything at the time A bit like you then " Nice.....how long have you waited for this perfect opportunity to make a comment like thay ...very long? Wouldn't mind but I don't even have a clue who you are | |||
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"Does it matter whether you like Vanessa Feltz or not ? Just cut to the core... There is a woman, saying that a man made unwanted sexual advances to her. She never said she was underage. She never said she was raped. Just on this thread... the following has been thrown at her..... 1. Rolf must be sick. 2. She is big mouthed 3. She's a hypocrite 4.She's foul mouthed 5. She's only doing it cos he's famous 6. She's self aggrandising 7. She's a hag 8. Happy to jump on any bandwagon 9. She's stooping low to further her career 10. There's no accounting for taste ( ignoring the assault and judging her by her looks - so what's new for women? ) 11. She did it cos her d.v.d's aren't selling 12. She's not easy to work with 13. She's a cunt 14. I see her , I hear her , I vomit 15. Rolf should have gone to specsavers 16. Vanessa and Linda are fat so he must have tempted them with cake.... 17. She just adores publicity 18. She just likes airing her loud _iews...... And you question whether society remains sexist.... ? And you wonder why women don't come forward ? And you wonder why some men see women as just there to abuse ? " Oooh granny, I could kiss ya! | |||
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"Does it matter whether you like Vanessa Feltz or not ? Just cut to the core... There is a woman, saying that a man made unwanted sexual advances to her. She never said she was underage. She never said she was raped. Just on this thread... the following has been thrown at her..... 1. Rolf must be sick. 2. She is big mouthed 3. She's a hypocrite 4.She's foul mouthed 5. She's only doing it cos he's famous 6. She's self aggrandising 7. She's a hag 8. Happy to jump on any bandwagon 9. She's stooping low to further her career 10. There's no accounting for taste ( ignoring the assault and judging her by her looks - so what's new for women? ) 11. She did it cos her d.v.d's aren't selling 12. She's not easy to work with 13. She's a cunt 14. I see her , I hear her , I vomit 15. Rolf should have gone to specsavers 16. Vanessa and Linda are fat so he must have tempted them with cake.... 17. She just adores publicity 18. She just likes airing her loud _iews...... And you question whether society remains sexist.... ? And you wonder why women don't come forward ? And you wonder why some men see women as just there to abuse ? " see this is why i love you granny you say what i think so much better than i ever could so perfectly put | |||
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"...... another kiss for Granny here too. xx" | |||
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"Does it matter whether you like Vanessa Feltz or not ? Just cut to the core... There is a woman, saying that a man made unwanted sexual advances to her. She never said she was underage. She never said she was raped. Just on this thread... the following has been thrown at her..... 1. Rolf must be sick. 2. She is big mouthed 3. She's a hypocrite 4.She's foul mouthed 5. She's only doing it cos he's famous 6. She's self aggrandising 7. She's a hag 8. Happy to jump on any bandwagon 9. She's stooping low to further her career 10. There's no accounting for taste ( ignoring the assault and judging her by her looks - so what's new for women? ) 11. She did it cos her d.v.d's aren't selling 12. She's not easy to work with 13. She's a cunt 14. I see her , I hear her , I vomit 15. Rolf should have gone to specsavers 16. Vanessa and Linda are fat so he must have tempted them with cake.... 17. She just adores publicity 18. She just likes airing her loud _iews...... And you question whether society remains sexist.... ? And you wonder why women don't come forward ? And you wonder why some men see women as just there to abuse ? " And no woman has ever lied and left a mans life in tatters to be vindinctive, falsely accused men of rape, sexual assault etc...that NEVER happens . | |||
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"Couldn't be reported during the trial because of subjudicy. Many of the woman celebs that have came forward have been vilified. Easy to understand why they kept quiet at the time" Yep! She has said in the press that she has been subject to misogynistic hate mail and I can see from responses on here that she well might have done. Over th elast few days I have come to reliase that women are held in very low esteem by lots of men and women | |||
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"Couldn't be reported during the trial because of subjudicy. Many of the woman celebs that have came forward have been vilified. Easy to understand why they kept quiet at the time Yep! She has said in the press that she has been subject to misogynistic hate mail and I can see from responses on here that she well might have done. Over th elast few days I have come to reliase that women are held in very low esteem by lots of men and women " and equally sadly, they consider some of their own gender in low esteem. | |||
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"sorry, never noticed you mentioned women as well apologies x" no need | |||
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"Couldn't be reported during the trial because of subjudicy. Many of the woman celebs that have came forward have been vilified. Easy to understand why they kept quiet at the time Yep! She has said in the press that she has been subject to misogynistic hate mail and I can see from responses on here that she well might have done. Over th elast few days I have come to reliase that women are held in very low esteem by lots of men and women and equally sadly, they consider some of their own gender in low esteem." Yes thats very true, i just think sexual abuse is a terible thing whoever it happens too but am aware that some women lie about it, but rolf harris was found guilty so thats different. | |||
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"Linda Nolan and VF are both... larger women shall we say how did Rolf Harris abuse them???? ###### Breaking News it was a piece of cake. #####" Cruel and uncalled for. Consider an insult hurled your way mister. Well done Granny for saying what I wanted to say. | |||
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"Does it matter whether you like Vanessa Feltz or not ? Just cut to the core... There is a woman, saying that a man made unwanted sexual advances to her. She never said she was underage. She never said she was raped. Just on this thread... the following has been thrown at her..... 1. Rolf must be sick. 2. She is big mouthed 3. She's a hypocrite 4.She's foul mouthed 5. She's only doing it cos he's famous 6. She's self aggrandising 7. She's a hag 8. Happy to jump on any bandwagon 9. She's stooping low to further her career 10. There's no accounting for taste ( ignoring the assault and judging her by her looks - so what's new for women? ) 11. She did it cos her d.v.d's aren't selling 12. She's not easy to work with 13. She's a cunt 14. I see her , I hear her , I vomit 15. Rolf should have gone to specsavers 16. Vanessa and Linda are fat so he must have tempted them with cake.... 17. She just adores publicity 18. She just likes airing her loud _iews...... And you question whether society remains sexist.... ? And you wonder why women don't come forward ? And you wonder why some men see women as just there to abuse ? " Hopefully this excellent post has caused some posters to reassess their contributions. Not holding my breath though! | |||
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"Does it matter whether you like Vanessa Feltz or not ? Just cut to the core... There is a woman, saying that a man made unwanted sexual advances to her. She never said she was underage. She never said she was raped. Just on this thread... the following has been thrown at her..... 1. Rolf must be sick. 2. She is big mouthed 3. She's a hypocrite 4.She's foul mouthed 5. She's only doing it cos he's famous 6. She's self aggrandising 7. She's a hag 8. Happy to jump on any bandwagon 9. She's stooping low to further her career 10. There's no accounting for taste ( ignoring the assault and judging her by her looks - so what's new for women? ) 11. She did it cos her d.v.d's aren't selling 12. She's not easy to work with 13. She's a cunt 14. I see her , I hear her , I vomit 15. Rolf should have gone to specsavers 16. Vanessa and Linda are fat so he must have tempted them with cake.... 17. She just adores publicity 18. She just likes airing her loud _iews...... And you question whether society remains sexist.... ? And you wonder why women don't come forward ? And you wonder why some men see women as just there to abuse ? " And there's the equal possibility that all these things are true. How well do you know Vanessa Feltz? | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero!" So big Jim , no kids yourself or family with kids . so your saying if rolfie boy came to visit you would welcome him into your home .Fucker should be hung from a street post asap so he his not using state money to keep him warm snug and safe from those prisoners who will want to chop his ball off | |||
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"For crikey's sake. I'll get my printing press going and print out some claim forms. I'm also revoking one person's FORUM INSURANCE. I'm going to waive Granny's premium, though " Good on ya Tina xx | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero! ...and there goes your chance of any fun or frolics in the future with ANY woman on here. Oh dear... " Don't worry about me dear. I am past having any 'fun or frolics' with any of the women on this site. I have not got the time to waste any any of them. I've had lots of fun in the past with unopinionated women and that was good enough for me. And anyway the chance of losing any chance of 'fun and frolics' as opposed to speaking my mind would be a no starter. I believe in freedom of speech as being much more important than a casual fuck. | |||
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"This is to heavy maaaannn! " i am.with you on that one, i do.not know enough about the case or these latest allegations to pass comment. Have fun and happy swinging | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero! ...and there goes your chance of any fun or frolics in the future with ANY woman on here. Oh dear... Don't worry about me dear. I am past having any 'fun or frolics' with any of the women on this site. I have not got the time to waste any any of them. I've had lots of fun in the past with unopinionated women and that was good enough for me. And anyway the chance of losing any chance of 'fun and frolics' as opposed to speaking my mind would be a no starter. I believe in freedom of speech as being much more important than a casual fuck." But you prefer fucking women without opinions...oh the irony!!! Hahaha | |||
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"The alleged assault happened in 1996. Not like her to keep her mouth shut all this time. Even before the trial, she had plenty of time. " | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero! ...and there goes your chance of any fun or frolics in the future with ANY woman on here. Oh dear... Don't worry about me dear. I am past having any 'fun or frolics' with any of the women on this site. I have not got the time to waste any any of them. I've had lots of fun in the past with unopinionated women and that was good enough for me. And anyway the chance of losing any chance of 'fun and frolics' as opposed to speaking my mind would be a no starter. I believe in freedom of speech as being much more important than a casual fuck. But you prefer fucking women without opinions...oh the irony!!! Hahaha" | |||
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"She has a very big mouth and is not afraid to voice her opinions,im surprised she didn't say anything at the time Exactly what I said. She's never been shy @ coming forward with anything else x " shes on my list of cant stand the sight nor sound of | |||
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"I disagree with the comments but it is ridiculous to say no women on the site will shag him, only about 1% read the forums and not everyone is gagging to shag forumites... " I'm not sure ridiculous does the comment justice... but then I couldn't come up with something which summed up the self-importance of it... so I'll go with ridiculous | |||
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"So, Have I got this right? Rolf Harris was convicted on the evidence of women who waited decades to accuse him. Did any of them have documented evidence of phscological harm, Do they stand to receive compensation from his conviction. Does that not make their evidence suspect in any way? And, unless my understanding of the English language has deteriorated with age. Does not 'touching' mean a casual laying on of a finger to a part of the body? How does it graduate to being 'grooming' or an 'assault'? and how does it make the 'lynch mobs R us' brigade, foam at the mouth so much?" I never saw all the evidence, read the court transcripts, listened to the professionals, I just relied on the jury doing a good job..... so can't comment, other than he was found guilty of the crimes he was charged with. | |||
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"So, Have I got this right? Rolf Harris was convicted on the evidence of women who waited decades to accuse him. Did any of them have documented evidence of phscological harm, Do they stand to receive compensation from his conviction. Does that not make their evidence suspect in any way? And, unless my understanding of the English language has deteriorated with age. Does not 'touching' mean a casual laying on of a finger to a part of the body? How does it graduate to being 'grooming' or an 'assault'? and how does it make the 'lynch mobs R us' brigade, foam at the mouth so much?" He was having sexual relations with his daughters friend from the age of 13 and this carried on to her adult years, this in my eyes constitutes grooming and being a nonce, who gives a shit how much compo these girls get in my mind anyone who attempts to make light or excuse a nonces actions is almost as bad as the person carrying out the act. Gimp | |||
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"mmmmmmmmmm so the porno kiddy pictures on his computer were put there by the pesky jimmy savile fairys this is a guy who denied being at certain venues yet after some digging he was placed at all the locations during show filming or is this just circumstantial " | |||
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"So, Have I got this right? Rolf Harris was convicted on the evidence of women who waited decades to accuse him. Did any of them have documented evidence of phscological harm, Do they stand to receive compensation from his conviction. Does that not make their evidence suspect in any way? And, unless my understanding of the English language has deteriorated with age. Does not 'touching' mean a casual laying on of a finger to a part of the body? How does it graduate to being 'grooming' or an 'assault'? and how does it make the 'lynch mobs R us' brigade, foam at the mouth so much?" Any unwanted laying of hands on a person constitutes assault. The severity of that assault depends on many factors. I would like to think that they haven't made accusations purely to get compensation however people have claimed to have cancer just to pocket charitable donations so I would put nothing past society these days. I'd wager that significantly more evidence than we know about has been given, interrogated, analysed etc. So much so that a guilty verdict has been given. You may not like it but he has been found guilty through the same legal system you or I would be subject to if we were in the same situation. I was under the impression that he had admitted to some of the accusations? | |||
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"So, Have I got this right? Rolf Harris was convicted on the evidence of women who waited decades to accuse him. Did any of them have documented evidence of phscological harm, Do they stand to receive compensation from his conviction. Does that not make their evidence suspect in any way? And, unless my understanding of the English language has deteriorated with age. Does not 'touching' mean a casual laying on of a finger to a part of the body? How does it graduate to being 'grooming' or an 'assault'? and how does it make the 'lynch mobs R us' brigade, foam at the mouth so much?" Doesn't matter if you touched someone with the tip of his finger or groped them intimately, unwanted touching is unwanted touching, and its about time some people started realising that. Its not feminism or PC brigade gone mad, its basic manners. If touching someone makes them uncomfortable, stop doing it! But Rolf didn't stop at touching did he? Do you really think a jury and judge would be convinced of his guilt if he had just lightly stroked someone? There must have been evidence, and seeing as most of the names have been withheld its evidence you and me will not be seeing. | |||
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"So, Have I got this right? Rolf Harris was convicted on the evidence of women who waited decades to accuse him. Did any of them have documented evidence of phscological harm, Do they stand to receive compensation from his conviction. Does that not make their evidence suspect in any way? And, unless my understanding of the English language has deteriorated with age. Does not 'touching' mean a casual laying on of a finger to a part of the body? How does it graduate to being 'grooming' or an 'assault'? and how does it make the 'lynch mobs R us' brigade, foam at the mouth so much? He was having sexual relations with his daughters friend from the age of 13 and this carried on to her adult years, this in my eyes constitutes grooming and being a nonce, who gives a shit how much compo these girls get in my mind anyone who attempts to make light or excuse a nonces actions is almost as bad as the person carrying out the act. Gimp " | |||
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"They were children, they had no idea! Abusers make you feel worthless, they frighten you that no one will believe you,its your fault, yournaughty etc. Add to that the fact he was a much loved national treasure, I'm not suprised they were too scared to come forward! It's not like he was some touchy feely guy who pinched a couple of bums in a club. He sexual abused young innocent children! From the above "opinion" I bet he also believes women who wear short skirts are asking to be raped " Well don't take up life as a professional gambler dear, your hunches are way off the mark. | |||
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"She looses credibility for me as she has gone to the press to push her story rather then the police and the CPS. Could she have gone before? Well many have Rolf isn't the first celeb to fall from grace. So we can all surmise why she didn't go before but one thing for sure is it wasn't a big enough issue for her to do so in the past. Personally if it had been me under her claimed circumstances I would have so she looses some credibility if like is being suggested career came before the law. And who knows if she had maybe some child could have been prevented from abuse after he event. " I think that lots of people have put their careers before the law in that their careers have protected them from the law and it wasn't the victims doing that. | |||
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"So, Have I got this right? Rolf Harris was convicted on the evidence of women who waited decades to accuse him. Did any of them have documented evidence of phscological harm, Do they stand to receive compensation from his conviction. Does that not make their evidence suspect in any way? And, unless my understanding of the English language has deteriorated with age. Does not 'touching' mean a casual laying on of a finger to a part of the body? How does it graduate to being 'grooming' or an 'assault'? and how does it make the 'lynch mobs R us' brigade, foam at the mouth so much? He was having sexual relations with his daughters friend from the age of 13 and this carried on to her adult years, this in my eyes constitutes grooming and being a nonce, who gives a shit how much compo these girls get in my mind anyone who attempts to make light or excuse a nonces actions is almost as bad as the person carrying out the act. Gimp " " who gives a shit how much compo these girls get" They are not girls any more they are elderly or middle aged women claiming to have been traumatised by being 'touched' and who, As far as I am aware, never needed any treatment for their experience. They came forward to say that they had been 'touched' by Harris and that brief encounter affected them deeply but they kept it to themselves for decades. Until the CPS contacted them to give evidence. What on earth could have prompted them to come forward now? I wonder. I note you use the word Nonce and I draw my own conclusions from that. | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man Oh fucking leave it out!! A load of women suddenly appear out of the woodwork bleating that Rolf Harris touched them and it destroyed their lives and it is only now that they have felt able to talk about it. Poor darlings, it's got nothing to do with any compensation they might receive from the criminal injuries board, has it? And 5 years, 9 months!! A totally disportionate sentence for such minor crimes. I don't believe for a single moment that thet were as traumatised as they make out. In a country where killers have got 18 months for actually killing someone. How can that be justified? His big mistake was to depend on the sanity and fairness of the legal system in this country. Something that has been missing for a very long time. He might well die in prison. But the sentencing judge will be smugly content because he will have removed a 'dangerous criminal' from our society and protected the 'vulnerable' what a hero!" Oh my days , heard it all now! Seriously!!! | |||
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"With regards to Vanessa Feltz... BBC News reported "She said she had decided to speak out to encourage others to come forward." Yet another report states: "Feltz said that she contacted Metropolitan Police on the first day of the trial hoping to testify against him. However, she was told that Harris's lawyers said the allegations came too late to investigate without derailing the case." So, she wanted to encourage others to speak out... when she already knew it was too late.... first hmmmmmmmmm. She waited for the first day of the trail when it's been in the news for how long? Second hmmmmmmmmm. Would you wait until you would not be put under oath if you really wanted to make a difference? Third hmmmmmmmmm. She decided to use her radio show to announce her ordeal. Another hmmmmmmm. And for a final hmmmmmmmm. When would the safest time be to make such an announcement, before or after a guilty verdict? Call me a sceptic but that's a lot of hmmmmmmmmms. " So she waits a year or more after the first allegations were broadcast on the news and waits till the day of the trial. Smacks of an opportunist who knows exactly what she is doing. | |||
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"You have a new Zealand politician a nolan sister and vanessa feltz all strong high profile women but they only come out of the woodwork now sorry but finding it hard to believe " Three intelligent, educated, vocal women. You find it difficult to believe their claims to have fallen foul of a convicted 'sex pest' because they didn't speak about it right away ( Linda Nolan was 15 at the time ) so you prefer to believe that they are all lying. Considering the fact that you don't know if they are lying or not - why do you prefer to think they are lying ? What premise do you base your judgements on ? | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man fuck me... id rather touch up a hungry Great White Shark than pit a finger on that fuck up of a human being Rolf ? no feltz i cant stand that woman She speaks highly of you. she is on radio2 between 5-6.30am her voice is like nails down a blackboard Her voice irritates me. I hadn't realised that my irritation made her a fuck up of a human being. I must listen to you more. in not on the radio i do apologize but i can shout realy loud if you want.. she stands in on Jeremy Vine and is meant to play devils advocate but she doesn't she pics a side and is very patronizing to those who apose her and cuts them off " That's what a fuck up of a human being does. | |||
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"It might well be VF enjoyed the attention back then. .. hence why she never said anything. Only now, and you have to admit there is a strong smell of band wagon jumping. One thing bothers me about the whole yewtree issue. Women have been able to use their charms for ever and a day. Seductive, some say manipulative. But should it happen not on their terms all hell breaks loose. Naive from RF? Definitely with regard to the older victims. I have read the court transcripts and the judges comments. RF is a nasty man. As are Savile and Clifford and Hall. But what I can't quite formalise in my head is why all the victims could not speak up at the time. There must have been one or two who could have. And I am not talking about the child victims, only the adults. Only two things in my mind stop them speaking up at the time. One, they all really are too scared or possibly at the time they thought they were getting something out of it. " And those who spoke up and were ignored? | |||
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" One thing bothers me about the whole yewtree issue. Women have been able to use their charms for ever and a day. Seductive, some say manipulative. But should it happen not on their terms all hell breaks loose. " they were by and large children, not women.. some did indeed speak to families and the authorities, they were making allegations against very well known celebrities.. they were not believed at that time.. what else could they do..? what would you have done in that position as a child molested and not believed ...? | |||
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"One celeb was outed as being a victim and dragged through the mud having her whole past forensically analysed when she was linked with a similar case. Why on earth would any woman want to come forward when faced with that. I for one can't imagine how much courage it takes to come forward. For what it's worth, I am no fan of V and I can well imagine her being a real "princess" to work with. That does not make her allegations any less true!" What if the celeb had already had their life dragged through the mud? What if it could boost ratings? What if you timed it right so you could personally benefit without having to take the stand. Despite her claim that she just wanted to encourage others to come forward and that's why she made the announcement on her own radio show, her choice not to come forward in April (at the time of his arrest) and subsequent choice of timing was bound to cause scepticism at the very least. Whether Rolf copped a feel of her or not... I believe she has done more harm than good. For ever person who appears to be crying wolf, for every person who appears to have dubious motives, for every person who appears to have carefully timed their revelations... dozens more will be doubted and excessively scrutinised as a result - that's if it doesn't just encourage silence. | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man fuck me... id rather touch up a hungry Great White Shark than pit a finger on that fuck up of a human being Rolf ? no feltz i cant stand that woman She speaks highly of you. she is on radio2 between 5-6.30am her voice is like nails down a blackboard Why do you listen? And why would her voice mean she couldn't be believed? " if i wasn't driving up n down the country n if radio 1,3 or 4 wernt crap at that timeof day i wouldn't.. I normaly listen to 4 but at that time its still on world service | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man fuck me... id rather touch up a hungry Great White Shark than pit a finger on that fuck up of a human being Rolf ? no feltz i cant stand that woman She speaks highly of you. she is on radio2 between 5-6.30am her voice is like nails down a blackboard Why do you listen? And why would her voice mean she couldn't be believed? if i wasn't driving up n down the country n if radio 1,3 or 4 wernt crap at that timeof day i wouldn't.. I normaly listen to 4 but at that time its still on world service " Ever heard of a cd player?? Lol | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man fuck me... id rather touch up a hungry Great White Shark than pit a finger on that fuck up of a human being Rolf ? no feltz i cant stand that woman She speaks highly of you. she is on radio2 between 5-6.30am her voice is like nails down a blackboard Why do you listen? And why would her voice mean she couldn't be believed? if i wasn't driving up n down the country n if radio 1,3 or 4 wernt crap at that timeof day i wouldn't.. I normaly listen to 4 but at that time its still on world service " I see, CD players are fairly reasonable I think, save you suffering. | |||
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".. I normaly listen to 4 but at that time its still on world service " I like the world service, although it isn't a patch on the Home Service. | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man fuck me... id rather touch up a hungry Great White Shark than pit a finger on that fuck up of a human being Rolf ? no feltz i cant stand that woman She speaks highly of you. she is on radio2 between 5-6.30am her voice is like nails down a blackboard Why do you listen? And why would her voice mean she couldn't be believed? if i wasn't driving up n down the country n if radio 1,3 or 4 wernt crap at that timeof day i wouldn't.. I normaly listen to 4 but at that time its still on world service I see, CD players are fairly reasonable I think, save you suffering." cd.. Is 1995?? I got my ipod but i prefer radio tragic reports newes etc etc. But thanks for your input. If you know of any 8track or grammarphones going let me know | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man fuck me... id rather touch up a hungry Great White Shark than pit a finger on that fuck up of a human being Rolf ? no feltz i cant stand that woman She speaks highly of you. she is on radio2 between 5-6.30am her voice is like nails down a blackboard Why do you listen? And why would her voice mean she couldn't be believed? if i wasn't driving up n down the country n if radio 1,3 or 4 wernt crap at that timeof day i wouldn't.. I normaly listen to 4 but at that time its still on world service I see, CD players are fairly reasonable I think, save you suffering. cd.. Is 1995?? I got my ipod but i prefer radio tragic reports newes etc etc. But thanks for your input. If you know of any 8track or grammarphones going let me know " Podcasts? | |||
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"The alleged assault happened in 1996. Not like her to keep her mouth shut all this time. Even before the trial, she had plenty of time. " | |||
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" One thing bothers me about the whole yewtree issue. Women have been able to use their charms for ever and a day. Seductive, some say manipulative. But should it happen not on their terms all hell breaks loose. they were by and large children, not women.. some did indeed speak to families and the authorities, they were making allegations against very well known celebrities.. they were not believed at that time.. what else could they do..? what would you have done in that position as a child molested and not believed ...?" I was talking about the adult victims not the children. A lot of the press and media are putting todays morals and ethics into the era the crimes were committed. And that makes it Oh so difficult for the jury. I believe a victim has a duty to stand and be counted. To fight the oppression and seek justice. Not for financial reward. For justice. I am not convinced some of the adult victims and eventhe older under age victims here are standing now for any other reason than cash. Some may well be doing the same process as whiplash claimants today. Can I put it another way as I do understand why this is so emotive. Did they feel they were a victim of such a sick crime at the time of the event? If yes they should have shouted. Maybe they did, maybe not loud enough. .. If not loud enough why not ( and this is where my anger towards esther rantzen appears) If not, why do they now feel a victim. | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man fuck me... id rather touch up a hungry Great White Shark than pit a finger on that fuck up of a human being Rolf ? no feltz i cant stand that woman She speaks highly of you. she is on radio2 between 5-6.30am her voice is like nails down a blackboard Why do you listen? And why would her voice mean she couldn't be believed? if i wasn't driving up n down the country n if radio 1,3 or 4 wernt crap at that timeof day i wouldn't.. I normaly listen to 4 but at that time its still on world service I see, CD players are fairly reasonable I think, save you suffering. cd.. Is 1995?? I got my ipod but i prefer radio tragic reports newes etc etc. But thanks for your input. If you know of any 8track or grammarphones going let me know Podcasts?" they don't do traffic reports but i do have audio books on it that i do listen to in my truck while in bed | |||
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"Vanessa Feltz has gone on record that Rolf Harris touched her up. Is there no end to the sickness of this man fuck me... id rather touch up a hungry Great White Shark than pit a finger on that fuck up of a human being Rolf ? no feltz i cant stand that woman She speaks highly of you. she is on radio2 between 5-6.30am her voice is like nails down a blackboard Why do you listen? And why would her voice mean she couldn't be believed? if i wasn't driving up n down the country n if radio 1,3 or 4 wernt crap at that timeof day i wouldn't.. I normaly listen to 4 but at that time its still on world service I see, CD players are fairly reasonable I think, save you suffering. cd.. Is 1995?? I got my ipod but i prefer radio tragic reports newes etc etc. But thanks for your input. If you know of any 8track or grammarphones going let me know " Well, good for you! | |||
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" Breaking news : In order to assist with his rehabilitation ( that's why he's in prison, correct?) the HMPS have announced they are to decorate RH's cell with lifesize pictures of Vanessa Feltz. Err, make that one picture. " It's the way you tell 'em | |||
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" One thing bothers me about the whole yewtree issue. Women have been able to use their charms for ever and a day. Seductive, some say manipulative. But should it happen not on their terms all hell breaks loose. they were by and large children, not women.. some did indeed speak to families and the authorities, they were making allegations against very well known celebrities.. they were not believed at that time.. what else could they do..? what would you have done in that position as a child molested and not believed ...?" But we don't stay children forever and that was about 50 years ago. We'd be damned before we'd sit watching the guy on T.V who'd molested us as a child and getting away scot free week after week. We'd have spoken out long before now. XXXX | |||
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"It might well be VF enjoyed the attention back then. .. hence why she never said anything. Only now, and you have to admit there is a strong smell of band wagon jumping. One thing bothers me about the whole yewtree issue. Women have been able to use their charms for ever and a day. Seductive, some say manipulative. But should it happen not on their terms all hell breaks loose. Naive from RF? Definitely with regard to the older victims. I have read the court transcripts and the judges comments. RF is a nasty man. As are Savile and Clifford and Hall. But what I can't quite formalise in my head is why all the victims could not speak up at the time. There must have been one or two who could have. And I am not talking about the child victims, only the adults. Only two things in my mind stop them speaking up at the time. One, they all really are too scared or possibly at the time they thought they were getting something out of it. " In terms of the Jimmy Saville case people did report him to the police on many occasions and nothing was done about it. Many people knew what he was like and chose to ignore it. It was the press that finally outed him after his death. Maybe this is why people like VF didn't go to the police years ago! | |||
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"They spoke out against savile They weren't believed They spoke out against Hall They weren't believed They spoke out against Clifford They weren't believed They spoke out against Harris They weren't believed. Felz works in news and current affairs. She will know of many more cases that haven't been broadcast or came to trial. All the more reason why somebody would not come forward" | |||
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"Does it matter whether you like Vanessa Feltz or not ? Just cut to the core... There is a woman, saying that a man made unwanted sexual advances to her. She never said she was underage. She never said she was raped. Just on this thread... the following has been thrown at her..... 1. Rolf must be sick. 2. She is big mouthed 3. She's a hypocrite 4.She's foul mouthed 5. She's only doing it cos he's famous 6. She's self aggrandising 7. She's a hag 8. Happy to jump on any bandwagon 9. She's stooping low to further her career 10. There's no accounting for taste ( ignoring the assault and judging her by her looks - so what's new for women? ) 11. She did it cos her d.v.d's aren't selling 12. She's not easy to work with 13. She's a cunt 14. I see her , I hear her , I vomit 15. Rolf should have gone to specsavers 16. Vanessa and Linda are fat so he must have tempted them with cake.... 17. She just adores publicity 18. She just likes airing her loud _iews...... And you question whether society remains sexist.... ? And you wonder why women don't come forward ? And you wonder why some men see women as just there to abuse ? " Hear hear!!! Regardless of what you think of Vanessa, she does not deserve to be vilified for coming forward. I personally don't believe anyone would want to court this type of publicity. Vanessa is a larger than life character, but many people in the entertainment industry are! | |||
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"They spoke out against savile They weren't believed They spoke out against Hall They weren't believed They spoke out against Clifford They weren't believed They spoke out against Harris They weren't believed. Felz works in news and current affairs. She will know of many more cases that haven't been broadcast or came to trial. All the more reason why somebody would not come forward" Come forward all the British public WILL support you | |||
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"Does it matter whether you like Vanessa Feltz or not ? Just cut to the core... There is a woman, saying that a man made unwanted sexual advances to her. She never said she was underage. She never said she was raped. Just on this thread... the following has been thrown at her..... 1. Rolf must be sick. 2. She is big mouthed 3. She's a hypocrite 4.She's foul mouthed 5. She's only doing it cos he's famous 6. She's self aggrandising 7. She's a hag 8. Happy to jump on any bandwagon 9. She's stooping low to further her career 10. There's no accounting for taste ( ignoring the assault and judging her by her looks - so what's new for women? ) 11. She did it cos her d.v.d's aren't selling 12. She's not easy to work with 13. She's a cunt 14. I see her , I hear her , I vomit 15. Rolf should have gone to specsavers 16. Vanessa and Linda are fat so he must have tempted them with cake.... 17. She just adores publicity 18. She just likes airing her loud _iews...... And you question whether society remains sexist.... ? And you wonder why women don't come forward ? And you wonder why some men see women as just there to abuse ? Hear hear!!! Regardless of what you think of Vanessa, she does not deserve to be vilified for coming forward. I personally don't believe anyone would want to court this type of publicity. Vanessa is a larger than life character, but many people in the entertainment industry are!" | |||
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"They spoke out against savile They weren't believed They spoke out against Hall They weren't believed They spoke out against Clifford They weren't believed They spoke out against Harris They weren't believed. Felz works in news and current affairs. She will know of many more cases that haven't been broadcast or came to trial. All the more reason why somebody would not come forward Come forward all the British public WILL support you" but if I honestly believe that if Jimmy Saville had been brought to book, he would have opened a can of worms, that would have been covered up by THE POWERS THAT BE, the men that you don't see, but protect the perverts like JS RH SH and people in even higher positions than them | |||
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"Vanessa jumping on the bandwagon -who really knows but lets not forget that at the heart of all this Rolf Harris, Jimmy Saville, Stuart Hall etc business were children. Children!! Being abused. Yes they may have waited years to report it. Many didn't and where laughed at. These were powerful, popular and media savy men. They were vulnerable children. How could they expect their voices to be heard? Comments from certain individuals on here (the irony that the main protester is from the same era) highlights the _iews that they would of been up against. " | |||
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" One thing bothers me about the whole yewtree issue. Women have been able to use their charms for ever and a day. Seductive, some say manipulative. But should it happen not on their terms all hell breaks loose. they were by and large children, not women.. some did indeed speak to families and the authorities, they were making allegations against very well known celebrities.. they were not believed at that time.. what else could they do..? what would you have done in that position as a child molested and not believed ...? But we don't stay children forever and that was about 50 years ago. We'd be damned before we'd sit watching the guy on T.V who'd molested us as a child and getting away scot free week after week. We'd have spoken out long before now. XXXX" You assume that would be the case. You will never know! | |||
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"Listening to all this vitriol against Felps is it really surprising people don't speak up. Why would he touch you , your fat. Why would he want to fuck you , your ugly. Why would he want to get in your knickers, you have an annoying voice. And for children speaking up it must be a hundred times worse. Teenagers are body conscious and nervous already. They wouldn't want their friends knowing they had been touched up by a dirty old man. The attackers are very good at choosing their victim, they groom them over many years. They pick the weak and vulnerable. It's shocking that anyone thinks it's easy to speak out. " It's shocking too that a womans looks, size and success are used in evidence against her. Ducking stool anyone? | |||
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"They spoke out against savile They weren't believed They spoke out against Hall They weren't believed They spoke out against Clifford They weren't believed They spoke out against Harris They weren't believed. Felz works in news and current affairs. She will know of many more cases that haven't been broadcast or came to trial. All the more reason why somebody would not come forward" You make a good case... that case being if she didn't want to come forwards after his arrest and didn't want to come forward before the trial...and could have remained anonymous after reporting it to the Police on the first day of the trial... why expose herself now? | |||
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