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"thought I would start one with regards to the actual event and the racing itself since the last one is almost full, and got turned into a rant (by one person) so.... this normally turns into a great thread each year... so I'll start with my usual big question.... not who will win who are you watching... ITV or EUROSPORT.... I am very much a Eurosport guy... but since I don't have the HD package on sky and ITV is in free HD... I may watch a tiny bit more ITV... although there is only so much Sherwin and Liggett I can put up with...." Definitely Eurosport...always top coverage | |||
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"Eurosport. Why? Carlton Kirby. The Alan Partridge of cycling." Kirby is useless. It's a shame that Eurosport refuse to have Dave Harmon back after he took time off with mental health issues | |||
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"Eurosport. Why? Carlton Kirby. The Alan Partridge of cycling. Kirby is useless. It's a shame that Eurosport refuse to have Dave Harmon back after he took time off with mental health issues" I thought that was Harmon back yesterday, who was commentating with sean and stephen yesterday.... anyway... cav out!!! anyone out on the road for stage 2..... they reckon between 1-1.5 million people were out on the road yesterday... should be as many out today so who you got today... this is like an english "Classics" stage today.... Valverde or Cancellara for me... although look for fireworks today if Rodriguez or Nabali do give it a go.... | |||
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"Eurosport. Why? Carlton Kirby. The Alan Partridge of cycling. Kirby is useless. It's a shame that Eurosport refuse to have Dave Harmon back after he took time off with mental health issues I thought that was Harmon back yesterday, who was commentating with sean and stephen yesterday.... anyway... cav out!!! anyone out on the road for stage 2..... they reckon between 1-1.5 million people were out on the road yesterday... should be as many out today so who you got today... this is like an english "Classics" stage today.... Valverde or Cancellara for me... although look for fireworks today if Rodriguez or Nabali do give it a go...." Oh I might have to try Eurosport if DH is back. They have got a lot of flack for Kirby. That said I assume Stephen is Stephen Roche and I find him annoying to. Kelly is a star though. It was nice to see Cav hold his hands up and say it was his fault. He seemed more upset about taking Gerrans out than his own injuries. And I think today could be crazy, it'll be interesting to see if anyone chases the break. | |||
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"Eurosport. Why? Carlton Kirby. The Alan Partridge of cycling. Kirby is useless. It's a shame that Eurosport refuse to have Dave Harmon back after he took time off with mental health issues I thought that was Harmon back yesterday, who was commentating with sean and stephen yesterday.... anyway... cav out!!! anyone out on the road for stage 2..... they reckon between 1-1.5 million people were out on the road yesterday... should be as many out today so who you got today... this is like an english "Classics" stage today.... Valverde or Cancellara for me... although look for fireworks today if Rodriguez or Nabali do give it a go.... Oh I might have to try Eurosport if DH is back. They have got a lot of flack for Kirby. That said I assume Stephen is Stephen Roche and I find him annoying to. Kelly is a star though. It was nice to see Cav hold his hands up and say it was his fault. He seemed more upset about taking Gerrans out than his own injuries. And I think today could be crazy, it'll be interesting to see if anyone chases the break. " Has Sean Kelly slowed down his speech, as I recall after a race he was talking that fast you couldn't understand him. I like the knowledge of the ITV 4 team, only downside is they have boardman thier team. Good cyclist, just a bit of a knob. | |||
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"I used to live in Keighley. I wonder if it'll look less of a shithole :p" ... because you left? x | |||
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"The ITV coverage is SHIT!! Big advert breaks ALL the time. They have completely ruined the coverage. A one off event and they've truly fucked it up. Why don't they do what they do with the IPL and have one brief advert?? Aaaarrrrrgggggghh. " you will find like all sporting events are filmed n streamed by an umbrella company the adverts are on at the same time no matter what station you watch all bbc do is go to pundit instead | |||
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"I used to live in Keighley. I wonder if it'll look less of a shithole :p" funny enough when it went thru the town the adds came on to save the embarrassment of the rest of Yorkshire haha | |||
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"I used to live in Keighley. I wonder if it'll look less of a shithole :p" lol I spent a night in Keighley a few years back. The bed and breakfast I stayed in...oh my god. I have no words for the horror. | |||
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"The ITV coverage is SHIT!! Big advert breaks ALL the time. They have completely ruined the coverage. A one off event and they've truly fucked it up. Why don't they do what they do with the IPL and have one brief advert?? Aaaarrrrrgggggghh. " I know people that live in Greetland and West Vale. They stuck a sodding ad break after the "Cote de Greetland" and missed the whole area!!!!! Hopefully I'll find a VOD of it | |||
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"The ITV coverage is SHIT!! Big advert breaks ALL the time. They have completely ruined the coverage. A one off event and they've truly fucked it up. Why don't they do what they do with the IPL and have one brief advert?? Aaaarrrrrgggggghh. I know people that live in Greetland and West Vale. They stuck a sodding ad break after the "Cote de Greetland" and missed the whole area!!!!! Hopefully I'll find a VOD of it " We were in Greetland Mrs liddy manged to get herself on telly lol | |||
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"Well,what a fantastic weekend and I'm so proud of Yorkshire for not only winning the bid but for the incredible support - the crowds have been unbelievable! Yesterday I got a high-five from a very sexy Gendarmarie on a motorbike as the cyclists were 'coasting' in the procession to Harewood House (offical start), the music was great and the floats throwing out goodies everywhere, the helicopters, fabulous weather, my friend took some fantastic pics (a great one of poor Mark - before the fall obviously) and a great video and today we went to Howarth to watch it again - wonderful atmosphere!! Enormous respect for the cyclists (can't believe how lean they are)and incredibly proud to be part of such a fabulous occasion Well done Yorkshire " | |||
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"The first few days of the tour have gone down well, shame about Cavendish hope he gets well soon. I read on the tours website that the frowds in Yorkshire had been bigger and better than ecpected, who knows the tour.might come back to.the UK sooner." I hope so... I wish for an edinburgh start one day and stage one/two being an edinburgh to newcastle stage... some of the hills and scenery and that potential stage would be epic..... anyway... cambridge to london today... the route goes past my families gaff by the olympic stadium so my sister so the school is going to finish a little early so the parents can go with the kids to watch it | |||
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"i have already said to my old school chums no trying to 'jack a bike on walthamstow high street or Leyton high road..... lol " My old stomping grounds. One of your mates might have one of my bikes. | |||
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"Why isn't there any women riding in the Tour de France? " Sadly because it is incredibly unequal sport. Women's racing is way behind men's | |||
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"Why isn't there any women riding in the Tour de France? Sadly because it is incredibly unequal sport. Women's racing is way behind men's " So do the women have their own race? | |||
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"Why isn't there any women riding in the Tour de France? Sadly because it is incredibly unequal sport. Women's racing is way behind men's So do the women have their own race? " Surely, it's not beyond the capabilities of women to organise, run and support their own event? | |||
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"Why isn't there any women riding in the Tour de France? Sadly because it is incredibly unequal sport. Women's racing is way behind men's So do the women have their own race? Surely, it's not beyond the capabilities of women to organise, run and support their own event? " Probably not, I was just asking if there was already an event in Place | |||
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"Got to love tommy," The master of the gurn | |||
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"Well they hit the cobbles today, wonder how froomes wrist is going to hold up after his crash yesterday" They've cut 2 sections of cobbles from the route already due to the weather conditions! | |||
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"Well they hit the cobbles today, wonder how froomes wrist is going to hold up after his crash yesterday They've cut 2 sections of cobbles from the route already due to the weather conditions! " Yeah they've been expecting quite a bit of rain, that will make the big names happy, they didn't want to ride them | |||
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"Chris Froome, hit the Tarmac 3 times and has retired the race. " so the arguement now is should sky have taken 2 "no.1's" and almost split the team in two to look after them if they were in trouble until one person it became obvious became leader...they wouldn't have needed all 9 people... | |||
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"Chris Froome, hit the Tarmac 3 times and has retired the race. so the arguement now is should sky have taken 2 "no.1's" and almost split the team in two to look after them if they were in trouble until one person it became obvious became leader...they wouldn't have needed all 9 people... " Sir Dave will no doubt find a way to spin it positively. | |||
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"They do have an instant replacement in Richie porte who is a better climber than wiggins, " He's been going shit all year be surprised to see him do well. | |||
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"They do have an instant replacement in Richie porte who is a better climber than wiggins, He's been going shit all year be surprised to see him do well." Still better than wiggins at climbing, and only 1 time trial right at the end of the tour wouldn't of suited wiggins | |||
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"Porte is def a future grand your winner. No wonder Lars Boom did well today http://youtu.be/_WbE0uhzxVI" Don't know what that links to I'm on my phone so it doesn't work but he's big in to cycle cross through the winter | |||
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"They do have an instant replacement in Richie porte who is a better climber than wiggins, He's been going shit all year be surprised to see him do well. Still better than wiggins at climbing, and only 1 time trial right at the end of the tour wouldn't of suited wiggins" Don't get me wrong I think Porte is pure class but for 6 months he has struggled with illness and the inevitable lack of form that that causes. You don't and can't win the tour when you've been on the backfoot all season. That said those conditions would have been Wiggins' worst nightmare today | |||
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"They do have an instant replacement in Richie porte who is a better climber than wiggins, He's been going shit all year be surprised to see him do well. Still better than wiggins at climbing, and only 1 time trial right at the end of the tour wouldn't of suited wiggins Don't get me wrong I think Porte is pure class but for 6 months he has struggled with illness and the inevitable lack of form that that causes. You don't and can't win the tour when you've been on the backfoot all season. That said those conditions would have been Wiggins' worst nightmare today" Wiggins trains in the Lancashire hills, so the rain and wet roads would have been familiar to him. Froome trains in South Africa in the warm sunshine. Wiggins rode this year's Paris-Roubaix, Froome notably absent. I reckon it was a mistake leaving Wiggo out. | |||
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"They do have an instant replacement in Richie porte who is a better climber than wiggins, He's been going shit all year be surprised to see him do well. Still better than wiggins at climbing, and only 1 time trial right at the end of the tour wouldn't of suited wiggins Don't get me wrong I think Porte is pure class but for 6 months he has struggled with illness and the inevitable lack of form that that causes. You don't and can't win the tour when you've been on the backfoot all season. That said those conditions would have been Wiggins' worst nightmare today Wiggins trains in the Lancashire hills, so the rain and wet roads would have been familiar to him. Froome trains in South Africa in the warm sunshine. Wiggins rode this year's Paris-Roubaix, Froome notably absent. I reckon it was a mistake leaving Wiggo out." He may train in Lancashire but he doesn't like rain, was it the giro last year where he lost time to nibali on a decent because it was wet | |||
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"They do have an instant replacement in Richie porte who is a better climber than wiggins, He's been going shit all year be surprised to see him do well. Still better than wiggins at climbing, and only 1 time trial right at the end of the tour wouldn't of suited wiggins Don't get me wrong I think Porte is pure class but for 6 months he has struggled with illness and the inevitable lack of form that that causes. You don't and can't win the tour when you've been on the backfoot all season. That said those conditions would have been Wiggins' worst nightmare today" Wiggins hasn't been in the best of form all year though, I think there right to leave wiggins out | |||
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"Porte is def a future grand your winner. No wonder Lars Boom did well today http://youtu.be/_WbE0uhzxVI Don't know what that links to I'm on my phone so it doesn't work but he's big in to cycle cross through the winter" Former world CX champ, I've seen him at loads of CX World Cup races I've been at and he's awesome | |||
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"They do have an instant replacement in Richie porte who is a better climber than wiggins, He's been going shit all year be surprised to see him do well. Still better than wiggins at climbing, and only 1 time trial right at the end of the tour wouldn't of suited wiggins Don't get me wrong I think Porte is pure class but for 6 months he has struggled with illness and the inevitable lack of form that that causes. You don't and can't win the tour when you've been on the backfoot all season. That said those conditions would have been Wiggins' worst nightmare today Wiggins hasn't been in the best of form all year though, I think there right to leave wiggins out" Agreed. Isn't it a non discussion. Didn't Wiggins just pull out of the Tour of Austria due to illness or injury? | |||
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"They do have an instant replacement in Richie porte who is a better climber than wiggins, He's been going shit all year be surprised to see him do well. Still better than wiggins at climbing, and only 1 time trial right at the end of the tour wouldn't of suited wiggins Don't get me wrong I think Porte is pure class but for 6 months he has struggled with illness and the inevitable lack of form that that causes. You don't and can't win the tour when you've been on the backfoot all season. That said those conditions would have been Wiggins' worst nightmare today Wiggins hasn't been in the best of form all year though, I think there right to leave wiggins out Agreed. Isn't it a non discussion. Didn't Wiggins just pull out of the Tour of Austria due to illness or injury?" He crashed out. He's also won the tour of california, destroyed the field in the national TT champs, top 10 at Roubaix and rumoured to have brokem the pursuit world record in training at Manchester. Ive already said I think it was right to not select him purely because of the animosity between him and Froone but the suggestion he's not in form is laughable. | |||
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" He may train in Lancashire but he doesn't like rain, was it the giro last year where he lost time to nibali on a decent because it was wet" Possibly, Nibbles is known to be a good descender both wet and dry. I do know Wiggins won the time trial in very wet conditions in last year's tour of Britain, and came 8th in a wet Paris-Roubaix this year. He may not like the rain any more than you or I do, but he clearly does pretty well in the conditions. | |||
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"I have read unconfirmed reports Froome's wrist injury yesterday was worse than SKY let on which may explain his poor handling today" I agree, he had both wrists strapped as was already carrying injuries and by the look if it hardly any skin on his thighs poor chap, bet he is sore as hell | |||
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"I have read unconfirmed reports Froome's wrist injury yesterday was worse than SKY let on which may explain his poor handling today" That is probably a key factor in the crashes today then. | |||
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"It has gutted me more than anyone will know. Not only is Froome never capable of running a classic race - which today's stage was. My hero Dave Brailsford left Wiggo out which was always a massive risk with this course for TDF and I cried when Cav crashed out on stage 1. Jeez. I will have to console myself with lots of lovely young studs now I'm back to Fab Hi everyone! Glad to be back. The cycling mad/ sex mad Littlebird " shit, I'm not a young stud | |||
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"I have read unconfirmed reports Froome's wrist injury yesterday was worse than SKY let on which may explain his poor handling today" I think all the teams have played down injuries of thier top riders. | |||
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"It has gutted me more than anyone will know. Not only is Froome never capable of running a classic race - which today's stage was. My hero Dave Brailsford left Wiggo out which was always a massive risk with this course for TDF and I cried when Cav crashed out on stage 1. Jeez. I will have to console myself with lots of lovely young studs now I'm back to Fab Hi everyone! Glad to be back. The cycling mad/ sex mad Littlebird " Cycling mad here too, tried to wink you but not allowed | |||
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"It has gutted me more than anyone will know. Not only is Froome never capable of running a classic race - which today's stage was. My hero Dave Brailsford left Wiggo out which was always a massive risk with this course for TDF and I cried when Cav crashed out on stage 1. Jeez. I will have to console myself with lots of lovely young studs now I'm back to Fab Hi everyone! Glad to be back. The cycling mad/ sex mad Littlebird Cycling mad here too, tried to wink you but not allowed " Well looking at your pics I will definitely wink you | |||
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"It has gutted me more than anyone will know. Not only is Froome never capable of running a classic race - which today's stage was. My hero Dave Brailsford left Wiggo out which was always a massive risk with this course for TDF and I cried when Cav crashed out on stage 1. Jeez. I will have to console myself with lots of lovely young studs now I'm back to Fab Hi everyone! Glad to be back. The cycling mad/ sex mad Littlebird Cycling mad here too, tried to wink you but not allowed Well looking at your pics I will definitely wink you " | |||
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"It has gutted me more than anyone will know. Not only is Froome never capable of running a classic race - which today's stage was. My hero Dave Brailsford left Wiggo out which was always a massive risk with this course for TDF and I cried when Cav crashed out on stage 1. Jeez. I will have to console myself with lots of lovely young studs now I'm back to Fab Hi everyone! Glad to be back. The cycling mad/ sex mad Littlebird Cycling mad here too, tried to wink you but not allowed Well looking at your pics I will definitely wink you " Eh this is cycling thread keep your flirting to yourselves, unless you wink us too lol | |||
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"We should have a fab bike ride!! " A fab cycle to Paris for the last stage next year lol | |||
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"It has gutted me more than anyone will know. Not only is Froome never capable of running a classic race - which today's stage was. My hero Dave Brailsford left Wiggo out which was always a massive risk with this course for TDF and I cried when Cav crashed out on stage 1. Jeez. )" I was gutted they left Wiggo out too & then losing Cav was a double whammy! Nonetheless I still love the TDF & we can't complain as we've won the last two years. | |||
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"It has gutted me more than anyone will know. Not only is Froome never capable of running a classic race - which today's stage was. My hero Dave Brailsford left Wiggo out which was always a massive risk with this course for TDF and I cried when Cav crashed out on stage 1. Jeez. I will have to console myself with lots of lovely young studs now I'm back to Fab Hi everyone! Glad to be back. The cycling mad/ sex mad Littlebird Cycling mad here too, tried to wink you but not allowed Well looking at your pics I will definitely wink you Eh this is cycling thread keep your flirting to yourselves, unless you wink us too lol " Already winked you Mrs | |||
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"Comes to life this coming week as we get into the first of the mountain stages. Time to sort the men from the boys " Yeah big mountain stage tomorrow contador will attack I think | |||
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"What a machine tony martin is" He's an incredibly strong rider | |||
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"What a machine tony martin is He's an incredibly strong rider" It's amazing how he pulls away, he's on. Explosive like contador up out the seat, he just seems to inch away with a slight increase in his pedalling | |||
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"Another favourite out today, no more Contador " Bugger I wish I hadn't read this now, I've not seen any of today yet, well nibali is going to win it by a week now then | |||
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"Another favourite out today, no more Contador Bugger I wish I hadn't read this now, I've not seen any of today yet, well nibali is going to win it by a week now then" Nibali is doing well. got to praise team sky they are still fighting for it | |||
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"Just heard that Contador had to finish that stage with a broken tibia " m Yep those cyclists are rock hard! Decided that Movistar is my favourite team strip this year. | |||
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"Just heard that Contador had to finish that stage with a broken tibia m Yep those cyclists are rock hard! Decided that Movistar is my favourite team strip this year. " Going by this year's tour picking your favourite kit could be the way forward lol, I like the opq kit | |||
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"Just heard that Contador had to finish that stage with a broken tibia " Didn't finish the stage but did 18km with it, they were passing guys on the climb too | |||
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"I like Astana and also AG2R but don't want to be a FPKW " Mrs l hates ag2r kits she thinks it's disgusting, I like the top the shorts are a horrible brown | |||
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"Talanski out now, it's a brutal tour" spot on, it's taken a fair toll this time out......... | |||
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"Talanski out now, it's a brutal tourspot on, it's taken a fair toll this time out........." I've probs not been watching as long as most people but I don't remember a tour with this many abandoning | |||
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"Same here, have only really been following in the last 5-6 years. Used to hate cycling till I got my Boardman carbon " You've been cycling longer than me then, I'm only on about 2 3 years after I stopped playing rugby, I started on a halfords special carrera, but upgraded to a giant defy about 9 months ago | |||
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"Talanski out now, it's a brutal tourspot on, it's taken a fair toll this time out......... I've probs not been watching as long as most people but I don't remember a tour with this many abandoning" NUmners wise, it's pretty much par for the course. What is very unusual is the calibre of riding that has crashed out. | |||
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"Personally I would take my hand built Harry Quinn 708 tubing frame over a carbon bike. One reason is that when you crash you can repair it, they look nice but are they a fad like most other things seen in proffesional cycling. As for the best outfit this year, none of the team colours stand out, I used to like the Systeme U team colours. What a stage today, the finish was brilliant. I liked the decent section, I did expect a crash or two on that bit. Some of the riders used all of the road on some corners, I know what it is like doing 50 mph downhill on wider roads than that. I take my hat of to the guys today." There hardly a fad they've been around too long to be a fad now, and you can repair carbon too | |||
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"Personally I would take my hand built Harry Quinn 708 tubing frame over a carbon bike. One reason is that when you crash you can repair it, they look nice but are they a fad like most other things seen in proffesional cycling. As for the best outfit this year, none of the team colours stand out, I used to like the Systeme U team colours. What a stage today, the finish was brilliant. I liked the decent section, I did expect a crash or two on that bit. Some of the riders used all of the road on some corners, I know what it is like doing 50 mph downhill on wider roads than that. I take my hat of to the guys today. There hardly a fad they've been around too long to be a fad now, and you can repair carbon too" Bend/snap a lightweight alloy frame and its scrap metal. Carbon fibre frames are a LOT more repairable than alloy - I should know, I have a carbon frame awaiting repair at the moment & its only going to cost circa £100 which is 20% of the cost of a replacement frame. | |||
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"Personally I would take my hand built Harry Quinn 708 tubing frame over a carbon bike. One reason is that when you crash you can repair it, they look nice but are they a fad like most other things seen in proffesional cycling. As for the best outfit this year, none of the team colours stand out, I used to like the Systeme U team colours. What a stage today, the finish was brilliant. I liked the decent section, I did expect a crash or two on that bit. Some of the riders used all of the road on some corners, I know what it is like doing 50 mph downhill on wider roads than that. I take my hat of to the guys today. There hardly a fad they've been around too long to be a fad now, and you can repair carbon too Bend/snap a lightweight alloy frame and its scrap metal. Carbon fibre frames are a LOT more repairable than alloy - I should know, I have a carbon frame awaiting repair at the moment & its only going to cost circa £100 which is 20% of the cost of a replacement frame." And a lot of the major bike brands like trek offer a repair or replacement if the frame brakes on there bikes | |||
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"Talanski out now, it's a brutal tourspot on, it's taken a fair toll this time out......... I've probs not been watching as long as most people but I don't remember a tour with this many abandoning NUmners wise, it's pretty much par for the course. What is very unusual is the calibre of riding that has crashed out. " | |||
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"Yeah broken leg, he's having surgery today, " No surgery a more minor break than reported, more of a ligament avulsion One you can cycle with with but causes trouble in the downhill pedalling, which is exactly where he abandoned Whether more steak would've prevented that who knows | |||
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"Team sky tiernan locke band for 2 years for doping, not while with team sky so they say" The suspect blood values were while with his previous team, maybe that's why he was so good at the TOB that year | |||
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"Team sky tiernan locke band for 2 years for doping, not while with team sky so they say The suspect blood values were while with his previous team, maybe that's why he was so good at the TOB that year " Yeah he's had that stripped as part of his punishment | |||
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"Team sky tiernan locke band for 2 years for doping, not while with team sky so they say The suspect blood values were while with his previous team, maybe that's why he was so good at the TOB that year " That whole year was dodgy as it far exceeded anything he'd achieved before. SKY were in a tough position prior to signing him as he wasn't racing at a level that included the biological passport. As soon as he did submit to those controls the isolated ones for 2012 were (allegedly) clearly dodgy. Personally I heard rumours years ago when he left the Plowman Craven team mid season (before the team folded). | |||
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"Hate to say I told you so but with regards to Richie Porte I said all along that his spring would catch up with him" Oh yes, he was certainly found out today. What a machine Nibali was on that final 10k or so. Big respect..........I wish I could climb even a quarter of how well any of those guys do. Anyone wanna bet on the yellow jersey finishing anywhere other than it's current holder? | |||
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"Cannondale have no GC guy hence Sagan being their main hope for glory in green. I think Saxo could manage it easily as they will want Contador at the front in the closing stages every day so it would work fine, sky managed ok with Cav when he was there " I wouldn't say they did, they were only bothered about yellow and so cav was left to carry bottles and with 1 man to look after him in the groupetto, and on lead out train except that last day, | |||
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"Cannondale have no GC guy hence Sagan being their main hope for glory in green. I think Saxo could manage it easily as they will want Contador at the front in the closing stages every day so it would work fine, sky managed ok with Cav when he was there I wouldn't say they did, they were only bothered about yellow and so cav was left to carry bottles and with 1 man to look after him in the groupetto, and on lead out train except that last day, " it's worth mentioning that Cav broke his contract and has been critical of SKY since leaving. No GC team will want to give up support riders for a sprinter as it gives the other GC teams an advantage | |||
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"Cannondale have no GC guy hence Sagan being their main hope for glory in green. I think Saxo could manage it easily as they will want Contador at the front in the closing stages every day so it would work fine, sky managed ok with Cav when he was there I wouldn't say they did, they were only bothered about yellow and so cav was left to carry bottles and with 1 man to look after him in the groupetto, and on lead out train except that last day, it's worth mentioning that Cav broke his contract and has been critical of SKY since leaving. No GC team will want to give up support riders for a sprinter as it gives the other GC teams an advantage" It's too hard work for the domestiques to lead out sprinters on flat and gc up the hills, I never understood why cav went to sky in the first place, I guess money talked? | |||
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"Cannondale have no GC guy hence Sagan being their main hope for glory in green. I think Saxo could manage it easily as they will want Contador at the front in the closing stages every day so it would work fine, sky managed ok with Cav when he was there I wouldn't say they did, they were only bothered about yellow and so cav was left to carry bottles and with 1 man to look after him in the groupetto, and on lead out train except that last day, it's worth mentioning that Cav broke his contract and has been critical of SKY since leaving. No GC team will want to give up support riders for a sprinter as it gives the other GC teams an advantage It's too hard work for the domestiques to lead out sprinters on flat and gc up the hills, I never understood why cav went to sky in the first place, I guess money talked?" I think SKY are arrogant enough that they genuinely believed that they could win yellow and green. And Cav is (was?) very close to Rod Ellingworth. | |||
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"Will Sagan win a stage this year??" Hopefully not. He proved his total lack of class at Flanders last year and I must admit that personally I'm enjoying his not winning. He might always be there or thereabout but his palmares are pretty thin when it comes to actual wins (a handful of stage wins and Ghent-Wevelgem is about it), I know he's young but he's been a pro for 5 years. I think they need to look at how the green jersey is awarded, the old style intermediate sprints for nominal points which most other races adapt is far better than the ludicrous set up in the tour | |||
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"A tough day today, big shake up for the podium and top ten gc, nibali to extend his lead he loves going downhill and the stage finishes with a big decent" Can't see anyone keeping up with nibali, he's way too fit and too clever. Did cragg vale stretch its great up there, might do it again tomorrow | |||
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"A tough day today, big shake up for the podium and top ten gc, nibali to extend his lead he loves going downhill and the stage finishes with a big decent Can't see anyone keeping up with nibali, he's way too fit and too clever. Did cragg vale stretch its great up there, might do it again tomorrow" Damn, if I put 40 quid on this nibali fella to win I get 41.21 return lol. Serious favourite to win then | |||
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"Good stage today. " Gutted tommy couldn't take the win though | |||
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"Tony Martin, time trailing machine. He doesn't have thighs, he's got pistons." Total machine! Feel slightly sorry for Niobali, he has dominated this race but people will inevitably say he was lucky as so many crashed out. I think he would have won regardless and tipped him as early as day 1, a dominating ride. | |||
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"Tony Martin, time trailing machine. He doesn't have thighs, he's got pistons. Total machine! Feel slightly sorry for Niobali, he has dominated this race but people will inevitably say he was lucky as so many crashed out. I think he would have won regardless and tipped him as early as day 1, a dominating ride." You're right, there'll be loads suggesting it's a hollow victory with no Froome or Contador. Fortunately for him though, the history books will show the winner as Nibali, not who crashes out. Kudos to anyone that even finishes the ride let alone winning. It's been a bit of a grueller this time round. Roll on the Vuelta now. | |||
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"It's been a good tour lots of thrills and spills, my only issue is the green jersey, sagan hasn't won a stage but is the green jersey, maybe they need to look at how they score that competition?" Good point, never thought about that one. Had been following the polka dot and white one more. | |||
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"It's been a good tour lots of thrills and spills, my only issue is the green jersey, sagan hasn't won a stage but is the green jersey, maybe they need to look at how they score that competition?" I said this earlier in the thread. They need to go back to the old style intermediate sprints. While it's not the first time the green jersey has been won by a rider not winning a stage but Sagan's style of going with breaks on the hilly and mountain stages makes it a joke. It's supposed to be the most consistent finisher and sagan isn't that | |||
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"It's been a good tour lots of thrills and spills, my only issue is the green jersey, sagan hasn't won a stage but is the green jersey, maybe they need to look at how they score that competition? I said this earlier in the thread. They need to go back to the old style intermediate sprints. While it's not the first time the green jersey has been won by a rider not winning a stage but Sagan's style of going with breaks on the hilly and mountain stages makes it a joke. It's supposed to be the most consistent finisher and sagan isn't that" I thought someone else had mentioned it but couldn't see the post, my issue is the intermediate prints it allows for people to break away and score points, maybe they should award double points for the stage winners like they do with mountain top finishes? | |||
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