FabSwingers.com forum: Got a speeding ticket for doing 60 in a 60 limit!

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Vehicle speed 60mph, road speed limit 60mph.

Maximum speed for class of vehicle, ie small van 50mph

Result £60 fine and 3 points

I know ignorance of the law is no defence, but I didn't know my van was subject to different rules to cars.

I drive a Transit Connect van, but if I had been driving a "car derived" van, like an escort or astra, I could travel at the same speeds as a car.

Who makes these fookin rules up?

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

Its a money machine mate ,nothing to do with road safety ,shame on em i say ...

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By *xstephbxxCouple
over a year ago

hyde

Ahh.. now, inform the dvla that you were in fact with another driver at the time and you arent too sure which one of you was driving at the time as you were taking turns doing the driving.

If they can play the technical game, so can you.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"Ahh.. now, inform the dvla that you were in fact with another driver at the time and you arent too sure which one of you was driving at the time as you were taking turns doing the driving.

If they can play the technical game, so can you.

This loophole has now been closed unfortunately, my hubby tried that one and he never got away with it....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes that is the case.

On a motorway its 60mph for a van and 50mph on a dual carriageway.

My mates a traffic cop and he told me that. Didn't help when i got done for speeding two years ago as he couldn't get me off with it!. It was not his division so it was out of his hands.

Good for when you want info on the wee scumbag who broke into my house recently and also he lets me know when and where the mobile speed vans will be out

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ahh.. now, inform the dvla that you were in fact with another driver at the time and you arent too sure which one of you was driving at the time as you were taking turns doing the driving.

If they can play the technical game, so can you.

Can't do that, I'm the only one working at my location.

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By *ickens CiderMan
over a year ago

taunton

Blimey.... policing must be on its knees down your neck of the woods.... would of thought they would of just given you a warning really and then issue a fine your doing wrong the next time....

Um... might be time to get a new copy of the Highway Code me thinks? Who's to say the PC Plod is totally correct... I'd seek some advise really... might have grounds to appeal?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"Yes that is the case.

On a motorway its 60mph for a van and 50mph on a dual carriageway.

My mates a traffic cop and he told me that. Didn't help when i got done for speeding two years ago as he couldn't get me off with it!. It was not his division so it was out of his hands.

Good for when you want info on the wee scumbag who broke into my house recently and also he lets me know when and where the mobile speed vans will be out

He is abusing his power and will get the sack if they find out....and quite right too.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

"Blimey.... policing must be on its knees down your neck of the woods.... would of thought they would of just given you a warning really and then issue a fine your doing wrong the next time....

I don't think cameras and the automated letters they trigger do "a warning", to be honest.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Blimey.... policing must be on its knees down your neck of the woods.... would of thought they would of just given you a warning really and then issue a fine your doing wrong the next time....

Um... might be time to get a new copy of the Highway Code me thinks? Who's to say the PC Plod is totally correct... I'd seek some advise really... might have grounds to appeal?

there are no grounds for appeal.

I know the law now, lol.

Luckily I have a clean license up to now, so 3 points isnt a big deal to me, but my van is smaller than a Landrover, or most of the big 4wds.

Apparently its because my van was registered as a goods vehicle, and goods vehicles are subject to different laws.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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It is a shame your work didn't tell you though Jack.

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Shouldn't there be signs in that case? Us thick drivers seem to need signs for everything else and different coloured road surfaces

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

Don't you need a different licence for Goods Vehicles?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It is a shame your work didn't tell you though Jack."

it's my reponsibility as a vehicle license holder to know the highway code.

In the cold light of day, I accept its no ones fault but my own, but another part of me still asks, WTF

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Don't you need a different licence for Goods Vehicles?"

only for certain classes of goods vehicle

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By *ickens CiderMan
over a year ago

taunton

"Blimey.... policing must be on its knees down your neck of the woods.... would of thought they would of just given you a warning really and then issue a fine your doing wrong the next time....

Um... might be time to get a new copy of the Highway Code me thinks? Who's to say the PC Plod is totally correct... I'd seek some advise really... might have grounds to appeal?

there are no grounds for appeal.

I know the law now, lol.

Luckily I have a clean license up to now, so 3 points isnt a big deal to me, but my van is smaller than a Landrover, or most of the big 4wds.

Apparently its because my van was registered as a goods vehicle, and goods vehicles are subject to different laws. "

Maybe put a matress in the back... a small fridge and a gas stove... and get its use changed on the VC5 (is it?) the log book?

Call it a camper van... maybe send them some picture of it coverted... you know some with some swinging fun going on in the back? lol

That'll shut them up!

Then during the rest of the working week its... um... the tool of trade... a van? lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id say naughty naughty!! OUCH!

thats gotta hurt the old bank balance! lol

mind u ive done it twice b4 in the past so know wots its like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My parents got a ticket for doing 60 in a 60 in their motorhome but when they checked it out they found the motorhome wasn't subject to the 50 limit of light goods vehicles and got the ticket overturned. Just goes to show the police don't always know what they're taking about. Definatly worth checking out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My employers didn't know the speeding laws of goods vehicles when i got done. They just said be careful in future and its my own responsibility to know and abide by the rules of the highway code. Now if they call and tell me to hurry up i just say to them if they pay my speeding fine i will get a move on. That shuts them up.

I was actually doing 49 in a 30 when i got done but it was in a rural area and i was unaware it was 30 as the area was just a row of maybe 6 houses. A lack of concentration and i held my hands up. It wasn't nice sitting in the back of a police car but plod seemed to break the ice with a few jokes ie my driving license mug shot and i gave as good back including begging for them to give me a warning but in the end i just said do what you need to do and let me get back up the road pronto.

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

I was stood in the high street having smoke while Helen was in a shop. A young girl approached me and said, “Do yourself a favour and DON’T drop your cigarette butt on the ground. I did a few days ago and got an £80 fine!”…

So… we get all this crap about ‘safety speed cameras’ because, as in your case the clever people have decided that the extra 10MPH is absolutely lethal and so fine you £60… bloody hell, just how dangerous to life is a cigarette end in the road to deserve a 25% greater fine!!!

The law is this country is like this old joke… Two white men and a Blackman are in prison in South Africa. One white guy asks the other…

What are you in for?

I’m in for attempted robbery and got 5 years, if I had actually done the robbery I would have got 10 years… what about you?

Oh I got 10 years for attempted rape, if I had actually raped the girl I would have got 15 years… and what about you? They ask the Blackman…

Me, I got twenty years!

Twenty years, bloody hell what did you do to get 20 years?

No lights on my bike! Mind you, it could have been worse I would have got life if it was dark!!!

Some of you might think that joke is racist and not funny at all, well there is nothing funny about the so-called British judicial system either! It’s being abused by the government to make the figures look good, to make it ‘look like’ it works. I for one have no faith in the police or the legal system.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

just as I said earlier, it depends how the vehicle is registered, but car derived vans like escort, astra etc are exempt from the law. This is the bit I have a problem with. My van is pretty much the same size as them, and certainly not as big as a motorhome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes that is the case.

On a motorway its 60mph for a van and 50mph on a dual carriageway.

My mates a traffic cop and he told me that. Didn't help when i got done for speeding two years ago as he couldn't get me off with it!. It was not his division so it was out of his hands.

Good for when you want info on the wee scumbag who broke into my house recently and also he lets me know when and where the mobile speed vans will be out

He is abusing his power and will get the sack if they find out....and quite right too."

Quite agree - sounds like another bent copper to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Vehicle speed 60mph, road speed limit 60mph.

Maximum speed for class of vehicle, ie small van 50mph

Result £60 fine and 3 points

I know ignorance of the law is no defence, but I didn't know my van was subject to different rules to cars.

I drive a Transit Connect van, but if I had been driving a "car derived" van, like an escort or astra, I could travel at the same speeds as a car.

Who makes these fookin rules up? "

Ru alrite ?

I tell you who makes the rules my old china THE GOVERMENT and the POLICE!!

if u do summat wrong ie speeding offence u pay up! simples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each week our local paper prints where the mobile speed cops are going to be operating, which is good, but if you are caught by them for speeding you really haven't any excuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Each week our local paper prints where the mobile speed cops are going to be operating, which is good, but if you are caught by them for speeding you really haven't any excuse. "

Yeah ! here here i agree with u n back u on that! 100%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And then you have the case on the radio on Friday of the copper who was up in court for doing 60 in a 30 zone (not in his cop car) Apparantly his kid was taken very ill and he was rushing to get home. The other copper gave him a ticket and he appeared court.

However the court decided not to punish him on the grounds of 'special circumstances' and further commented that the other copper had impeded the guys progress and instead of issuing a ticket, should have activated his blue lights and effecively given him an escort to his detination.

I wonder if the same would apply to Joe Bloggs ... ? or is it another classic case of one rule for us and one for them ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Each week our local paper prints where the mobile speed cops are going to be operating, which is good, but if you are caught by them for speeding you really haven't any excuse. "

I agree with you fully. It was my ignorance of the law that caught me out. In my view I wasnt speeding. I was doing 60 in a 60 limit. But I was wrong.

Im big enough to accept it, but I still think it stinks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And then you have the case on the radio on Friday of the copper who was up in court for doing 60 in a 30 zone (not in his cop car) Apparantly his kid was taken very ill and he was rushing to get home. The other copper gave him a ticket and he appeared court.

I wonder if the same would apply to Joe Bloggs ... ? or is it another classic case of one rule for us and one for them ?"

Well! u see,,,,,,,

I like 1 rule for us,,,,,i like 1 rule for them,,,,,but! which is better?

only 1 way to find out-

FIGHT!!!!!!!

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

"Vehicle speed 60mph, road speed limit 60mph.

Maximum speed for class of vehicle, ie small van 50mph

Result £60 fine and 3 points

I know ignorance of the law is no defence, but I didn't know my van was subject to different rules to cars.

I drive a Transit Connect van, but if I had been driving a "car derived" van, like an escort or astra, I could travel at the same speeds as a car.

Who makes these fookin rules up?

Ru alrite ?

I tell you who makes the rules my old china THE GOVERMENT and the POLICE!!

if u do summat wrong ie speeding offence u pay up! simples

Aint got any time for bent coppers either after watching 3 of them hold someone down then set a dog on soft bits. Yep he is taking them to court and i have given a statment so exspect to be telling a judge all about it at some point. Kinda not gone down well with my family tho cos my nephew is the chief inspector of the same force. I personally feel its my duty to tell the truth as they thought nobody could see what they did.

Steve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Each week our local paper prints where the mobile speed cops are going to be operating, which is good, but if you are caught by them for speeding you really haven't any excuse.

I agree with you fully. It was my ignorance of the law that caught me out. In my view I wasnt speeding. I was doing 60 in a 60 limit. But I was wrong.

Im big enough to accept it, but I still think it stinks."

Or is it u that stinks?! lol

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"if u do summat wrong ie speeding offence u pay up! simples

"Or is it u that stinks?! lol

Oh the irony, abusing forum members is against the forums rules, and could result in a ban

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By *ll of a QuiverCouple
over a year ago

Douglas

The roads laws are slightly over here.

On our little rock (Isle of Man), there is areas of highway where there is no speed limit. Makes it very popular with motorcyclists visiting for the TT races and local boy racers.

However, light commercial vehicles (car derived vans, transit vans) are restricted to 50mph and commercial vehicles of 3.5 ton or more are restricted to 40mph.

These limits were introduced about 15years ago. Still, you'd be surprised how many companies still dont know what the speed limits are for their vehicles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Each week our local paper prints where the mobile speed cops are going to be operating, which is good, but if you are caught by them for speeding you really haven't any excuse.

I agree with you fully. It was my ignorance of the law that caught me out. In my view I wasnt speeding. I was doing 60 in a 60 limit. But I was wrong.

Im big enough to accept it, but I still think it stinks."

Sorry I didn't mean that last to be directed to you. I meant that our local cops tell the paper where they are going to be with their speed cams and radars, so if anyone is caught (especially a local) then they are shown no mercy as they should know better.

I'd have been the same as you, driving at 60 in a 60 zone.... bit of a bugger your vehicle being classed as different.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"if u do summat wrong ie speeding offence u pay up! simples

Or is it u that stinks?! lol

Oh the irony, abusing forum members is against the forums rules, and could result in a ban

No worries mate, He cant upset me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder if the same would apply to Joe Bloggs ... ? or is it another classic case of one rule for us and one for them ?

Well! u see,,,,,,,

I like 1 rule for us,,,,,i like 1 rule for them,,,,,but! which is better?

only 1 way to find out-

FIGHT!!!!!!!

So does that mean Fab is full of coppers

There is a cop shop near to my local. I know one guy who's CID and when you see him pop in for a pint after his shift and standing with the unsavoury characters laughing and joking you wonder how he can afford the nice suits he wears and the big house in the posh part of his home town.

Am i looking into this too much

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Each week our local paper prints where the mobile speed cops are going to be operating, which is good, but if you are caught by them for speeding you really haven't any excuse.

I agree with you fully. It was my ignorance of the law that caught me out. In my view I wasnt speeding. I was doing 60 in a 60 limit. But I was wrong.

Im big enough to accept it, but I still think it stinks.

I'd have been the same as you, driving at 60 in a 60 zone.... bit of a bugger your vehicle being classed as different."

Theres no need to apologise in an open forum, for a statement based on fact.

Im ok with what you posted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hubby is just looking on the DfT site and it says for goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 ton the limits are:

50 - single carriageways

60 - dual carriageways

70 - motorways

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hubby is just looking on the DfT site and it says for goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 ton the limits are:

50 - single carriageways

60 - dual carriageways

70 - motorways"

Yes..that is correct. I was driving at 60 on a single carriageway with a 60 limit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a little joke! tiny little silly joke nothing nasty,,but anyway hopefully Mr u can sort summat out with ya speeding ticket thing,,perhaps see sum1 about it ? appeal?

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

It’s interesting that by percentage the emergency services have the highest accident rate of any other type of road user.

Now while as an individual you might want that police car, ambulance, or fire tender at your house as quickly as possible is it reasonable for someone else to be killed or injured in the process?

While we are all being told that speed kills the officials ought to practice what the preach!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just a little joke! tiny little silly joke nothing nasty,,but anyway hopefully Mr u can sort summat out with ya speeding ticket thing,,perhaps see sum1 about it ? appeal?"

no worries mate, I know you were joking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just a little joke! tiny little silly joke nothing nasty,,but anyway hopefully Mr u can sort summat out with ya speeding ticket thing,,perhaps see sum1 about it ? appeal?

no worries mate, I know you were joking

good good cool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hubby is just looking on the DfT site and it says for goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 ton the limits are:

50 - single carriageways

60 - dual carriageways

70 - motorways

Yes..that is correct. I was driving at 60 on a single carriageway with a 60 limit."

He's glad you mentioned it as he didn't know and has just changed from an Astra van to a Toyota Hi-Ace! so thanks!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder if the same would apply to Joe Bloggs ... ? or is it another classic case of one rule for us and one for them ?"

In 1986 when my mother went into labour with my brother my father was the only one who drove so he bundled us all into his saab, nobody was seatbelted in, not even me who was 6 at the time.

Father then drove fast and in the wrong lane into the town to drop me off at my grans, then back to the hospital (brother was 6 weeks early which was a big deal at the time) got stopped going thru a red light - it was 2am NOTHING on the roads.

Copper looked in car saw my mother screaming and huffing and puffing said look mate I could give you a ticket but you go enough problems follow me. Blue light on escort to hospital, no fine nothing ever happened.

So sometimes police do bend the rules when they want.

Another time my father was driving a 2CV6 (upturned bathtub with the sardine tin roof that opened by rolling it up) anyway a road just outside Dunfermline you could speed very easily without meaning to - been fixed now tho lol

On the way home my father spotted the copper with the radar gun looked down and said ohh crap ticket time pulled in asked what his speed was the copper laughed and said forget it sir no one will believe me if I said I ticketed a 2CV6!!

Week before my mother got a ticket for doing 8 miles over on the same road

she drove a mini metro!!!

Shona

x x x

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Hubby is just looking on the DfT site and it says for goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 ton the limits are:

50 - single carriageways

60 - dual carriageways

70 - motorways"

unless its gross unladen weight is over 3.5 tones when it becomes subject to Tacho Regs and must be governed to 56MPH and must not exceed 60MPH on motorways.

Seems that even the DoT don't give out the correct information on their web site! LoL

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

"Hubby is just looking on the DfT site and it says for goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 ton the limits are:

50 - single carriageways

60 - dual carriageways

70 - motorways"

Think there are loads of White Van Men who dont know those limits ... the way you see a lot of them drive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some very good points here from the good old british public!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s interesting that by percentage the emergency services have the highest accident rate of any other type of road user.

Now while as an individual you might want that police car, ambulance, or fire tender at your house as quickly as possible is it reasonable for someone else to be killed or injured in the process?

While we are all being told that speed kills the officials ought to practice what the preach!

Yes that is true but the driving public have to be reasonable and considerate to let the emergency services pass by without any collisions and for them to reach the incident safely and quickly.

I have seen drivers who are blind to the fact a vehicle is behind them with the sirens and lights going and fail to turn in to let them past. How on earth can they not see or hear it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s interesting that by percentage the emergency services have the highest accident rate of any other type of road user.

Now while as an individual you might want that police car, ambulance, or fire tender at your house as quickly as possible is it reasonable for someone else to be killed or injured in the process?

While we are all being told that speed kills the officials ought to practice what the preach!

Yes that is true but the driving public have to be reasonable and considerate to let the emergency services pass by without any collisions and for them to reach the incident safely and quickly.

I have seen drivers who are blind to the fact a vehicle is behind them with the sirens and lights going and fail to turn in to let them past. How on earth can they not see or hear it

Yeah i agree here here on that one!!

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

Yes that is true but the driving public have to be reasonable and considerate to let the emergency services pass by without any collisions and for them to reach the incident safely and quickly.

I have seen drivers who are blind to the fact a vehicle is behind them with the sirens and lights going and fail to turn in to let them past. How on earth can they not see or hear it

I’ve seen plenty of that sort of behaviour myself, fact is your average domestic driver is totally complacent and somewhat ignorant to the responsibility that they take on when taking the controls of a vehicle . Most have more than enough difficulty with what’s happening ahead of them and don’t think to look at what is happening behind.

But just look at the likes of ‘Police Camera Action’ there was one classic I watched whereby cops in a car became suspicious of two lads on a motorbike and so pursued them. The lads made a run for it obviously because of being ‘chased’ so now there were TWO vehicles speeding up to 70 80 MPH through busy shopping areas, it was a miracle no one was actually killed and for what? The bike had no road tax or something like that!

The same rules should apply… the driver behind the wheel should not be allowed to make such decisions as to put so much at risk for so little. And as you point out people don’t take that much notice of the blues and two’s.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes that is true but the driving public have to be reasonable and considerate to let the emergency services pass by without any collisions and for them to reach the incident safely and quickly.

I have seen drivers who are blind to the fact a vehicle is behind them with the sirens and lights going and fail to turn in to let them past. How on earth can they not see or hear it

YEAH A MASSIVE HERE HERE AGAIN 4 THAT COMMENT!! 100%

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"Id say naughty naughty!! OUCH!

thats gotta hurt the old bank balance! lol

mind u ive done it twice b4 in the past so know wots its like.

you drive?

i'd expect you to be fighting with every other driver out there

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"It is a shame your work didn't tell you though Jack.

it's my reponsibility as a vehicle license holder to know the highway code.

In the cold light of day, I accept its no ones fault but my own, but another part of me still asks, WTF

Yes I know the onus is on the driver, but your boss could well have done the decent thing and made sure you knew what category it was in.

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

As a BTW…. Back in the mid 70’s in Slough, so the story goes, the blue lights and sirens where taken off the patrol cars because the beat officers were found to be abusing them.

And twenty years ago it was decided that the home birth of my daughter was going on too long and so an ambulance was called to transfer us to maternity hospital 10 miles away. All was well, it was no more than a bus ride until my wife had another run of contractions. Sat in the back of the ambulance I overheard the driver and his mate, “Best hit the blues and two’s, I can’t be arsed with the paperwork for a roadside birth” as so off we went at death deifying speed… my daughter was born 3 hours later!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Id say naughty naughty!! OUCH!

thats gotta hurt the old bank balance! lol

mind u ive done it twice b4 in the past so know wots its like.

you drive?

i'd expect you to be fighting with every other driver out there "

lol yeah i drive alrite! ive got a vw blue beetle new shape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes that is the case.

On a motorway its 60mph for a van and 50mph on a dual carriageway.

My mates a traffic cop and he told me that. Didn't help when i got done for speeding two years ago as he couldn't get me off with it!. It was not his division so it was out of his hands.

Good for when you want info on the wee scumbag who broke into my house recently and also he lets me know when and where the mobile speed vans will be out

Good! If I heard of a copper getting 'mates' off the hook i'd have him done!

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over a year ago

"Yes that is the case.

On a motorway its 60mph for a van and 50mph on a dual carriageway.

My mates a traffic cop and he told me that. Didn't help when i got done for speeding two years ago as he couldn't get me off with it!. It was not his division so it was out of his hands.

Good for when you want info on the wee scumbag who broke into my house recently and also he lets me know when and where the mobile speed vans will be out

Good! If I heard of a copper getting 'mates' off the hook i'd have him done!"

wot spaded? lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

If the answer to question one is yes and answer to question two is no, ignore the letter and don nothing. When they send again ignore it again and so on. In the end they will either give up or summs you to court with a date, at that time, you say you never received the other letters.

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x"

lol, Cant get out of it now as original letter was sent to head office. The van is assigned to me only, so I am the only one who is authorised to drive it. My mileage log confirms where I was at the time of the offence.

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over a year ago

"Hubby is just looking on the DfT site and it says for goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 ton the limits are:

50 - single carriageways

60 - dual carriageways

70 - motorways

unless its gross unladen weight is over 3.5 tones when it becomes subject to Tacho Regs and must be governed to 56MPH and must not exceed 60MPH on motorways.

Seems that even the DoT don't give out the correct information on their web site! LoL"

There is info on there about unladen weights and towing trailers etc.

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over a year ago

"Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x"

I got a parking ticket the other day. I was parked in a supermarket car park and it was run by one of those private companies.

Now since i was using my company vehicle should i just pay up or should i ignore it. I have heard that if you ignore it they will give up on you eventually but it says on the back of the ticket if i don't pay it they will contact the DVLA for the registered details at a £40 admin charge which will be passed on to me!. Should these crooks be allowed to do that?

Sound like robbing bastards to me!

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

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over a year ago

sorry hun i would go to court on this one if ya not doing over the limit they shouldnt fine ya

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!"

Good comment. I use three at different times and places and have never seen such thing. Never thought of it either. Maybe due to competition with other local stores.

Write to Head Office and point this fcat out, with a few "facts"

of your own relating to the "circumstances"

and as to how badly you've been done to.

Gotta be worth a letter or e-mail.

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over a year ago

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park! "

Morrisons at Totnes has a pay and display, think its £2 for 2hrs, but spend £5 and you get your parking refunded at the till.

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over a year ago

Our local Morrisons is supposed to be a pay car park (with validation if you shop in store) but there's never anybody operating the barriers.

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over a year ago

"sorry hun i would go to court on this one if ya not doing over the limit they shouldnt fine ya"

He was doing over the limit for the kind of vehicle he was driving?

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

Morrisons at Totnes has a pay and display, think its £2 for 2hrs, but spend £5 and you get your parking refunded at the till."

That's very reasonable. A £5 doesn't buy much, a bottle of wine or pack of beer. Ciggies i suppose.

Can't blame em really otherwise folks would park all day.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

Morrisons at Totnes has a pay and display, think its £2 for 2hrs, but spend £5 and you get your parking refunded at the till.

That's very reasonable. A £5 doesn't buy much, a bottle of wine or pack of beer. Ciggies i suppose.

Can't blame em really otherwise folks would park all day. "

Correct, Waitrose do this in a couple of places (I think Ely was the one I was in) as well.

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over a year ago

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

Good comment. I use three at different times and places and have never seen such thing. Never thought of it either. Maybe due to competition with other local stores.

Write to Head Office and point this fcat out, with a few "facts"

of your own relating to the "circumstances"

and as to how badly you've been done to.

Gotta be worth a letter or e-mail."

I will be sending an email to them now. Pissed off that i go in and buy my shopping and i get walloped with a parking fine.

It was a Morrisons i'm not familiar with so my first instinct when parking up was not to get a ticket.

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over a year ago

"Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x

I got a parking ticket the other day. I was parked in a supermarket car park and it was run by one of those private companies.

Sound like robbing bastards to me!

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!"

Yup ! our Morrisons car park is a pay and display. The land that the car park occupies is owned my the Town Council or the County Council, not sure which, but you have to pay to shop, however if you can be arsed, you take your ticket to Morrisons instore customer service and they rfund the money ! but who can be arsed to do that ?

ASDA car parks are run by T.C.C. and they can issue civil fines for parking in a disabled bay without displaying a badge ......

Whether it would wash in a court of law - who knows ?

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x

I got a parking ticket the other day. I was parked in a supermarket car park and it was run by one of those private companies.

Sound like robbing bastards to me!

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

ASDA car parks are run by T.C.C. and they can issue civil fines for parking in a disabled bay without displaying a badge ......

Whether it would wash in a court of law - who knows ?"

Certainly would provided that there were signs on display, which there usually are in places like ASDA.

PS i've never once seen an ALDI or Lidl where you are required to pay.

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over a year ago

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"Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x

I got a parking ticket the other day. I was parked in a supermarket car park and it was run by one of those private companies.

Sound like robbing bastards to me!

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!"

Yes, they charge now in some and you get a refund of the ticket when you spend a fiver or more in the shop.

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"Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x

I got a parking ticket the other day. I was parked in a supermarket car park and it was run by one of those private companies.

Sound like robbing bastards to me!

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

ASDA car parks are run by T.C.C. and they can issue civil fines for parking in a disabled bay without displaying a badge ......

Whether it would wash in a court of law - who knows ?

Certainly would provided that there were signs on display, which there usually are in places like ASDA.

PS i've never once seen an ALDI or Lidl where you are required to pay. "

But whos ever heard of a Lidl or Aldi where you can actually buy a decent weeks shopping

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over a year ago

"Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x

I got a parking ticket the other day. I was parked in a supermarket car park and it was run by one of those private companies.

Sound like robbing bastards to me!

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

Yes, they charge now in some and you get a refund of the ticket when you spend a fiver or more in the shop."

I don't know if that is the case with the store i was in, maybe it applies to all Morrisons car parks and also i did spend more than £5.00. I was that pissed off i went off in a huff and carried on with my journey.

I was on route to my holiday destination and just wanted to get there and have a few drams. It did put a dampener on the start of it but all the family who were there with me on holiday all chipped in for the fine which was very kind.

I will pay it on the day of expiry just to keep them waiting.

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Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

Good comment. I use three at different times and places and have never seen such thing. Never thought of it either. Maybe due to competition with other local stores.

Write to Head Office and point this fcat out, with a few "facts"

of your own relating to the "circumstances"

and as to how badly you've been done to.

Gotta be worth a letter or e-mail."

In the car parks that charge there are signs everywhere telling you, and machines for you to pay with......I can't see writing a letter would help any cause.

The reason the one where we have shopped has charges is because a market is close by to it, so people not using their shop use their car parks....but if you spend a fiver in the store, they give you a refund of your ticket.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

I will pay it on the day of expiry just to keep them waiting.

So how did you overstay your time limit? Pitch yer tent?

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over a year ago

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

Good comment. I use three at different times and places and have never seen such thing. Never thought of it either. Maybe due to competition with other local stores.

Write to Head Office and point this fcat out, with a few "facts"

of your own relating to the "circumstances"

and as to how badly you've been done to.

Gotta be worth a letter or e-mail.

In the car parks that charge there are signs everywhere telling you, and machines for you to pay with......I can't see writing a letter would help any cause.

The supermarket parking in my area are all free and i have never known of any that do charge. Since i went to Morrisons in Inverness which is 200 miles away from me my first instinct was to park up and shop like i normally do. It wasn't till i got the ticket when i noticed the parking meters. The last thing on my mind was a ticket, it was more getting the alcohol and bbq food etc etc for my holiday.

From memory there wasn't any display on entering the car park but if any Invernessians can confirm this then i must had missed it.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Inverness? It's a good job you didn't shop at Iceland, you'd have been driving all week.

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By *-and-KCouple
over a year ago

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My son was issued a £30 fine, his heinous crime to desrve this?

A bus lane crosses the end of our avenue and he indicated to turn into the avenue and pulled into the bus lane 2 car lengths before he should have done! A cunt stabuble was stood at the corner of the avenue, saw him do it and calmly walked the 50 yds to our house to issue him the ticket. Hard lesson for a 19 year old for sure.

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By *nkednkinky_bbwWoman
over a year ago

cannock

"Hubby is just looking on the DfT site and it says for goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 ton the limits are:

50 - single carriageways

60 - dual carriageways

70 - motorways

Think there are loads of White Van Men who dont know those limits ... the way you see a lot of them drive

I was a white van woman for years and I didn't know

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over a year ago

"My son was issued a £30 fine, his heinous crime to desrve this?

A cunt stable hahahaha

Your post is a reason why i hate the police, they're a shower of assholes at times. Saying that they were good when my house got broken into a few weeks back.

When i see my mate with his uniform on i call him a prick but when he's dressed normally he's a good mate. Just as well he has a sense of humour unlike some when you crack a few jokes with them.

A few months back i was standing outside a pub in town. Two coppers were coming along and as they walked past one said to the other 'watch that big cunt with the white shirt on'. Now he must had been wanting a reaction as i had a white shirt on but he wasn't getting it from me. Now since i dislike coppers I put a complaint into the chief cuntastable but i got a reply saying his officers would never say things like that!

As if i would make it up and waste my time to complain, something which i wouldnt normally do. The police look after each other.

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over a year ago

"Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x

I got a parking ticket the other day. I was parked in a supermarket car park and it was run by one of those private companies.

Sound like robbing bastards to me!

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

Yes, they charge now in some and you get a refund of the ticket when you spend a fiver or more in the shop.

I will pay it on the day of expiry just to keep them waiting.

Definately not all Morissons - Killigworth is free to park. Presumably some car sites belong to Morrisons, others to the local authority

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

Good comment. I use three at different times and places and have never seen such thing. Never thought of it either. Maybe due to competition with other local stores.

Write to Head Office and point this fcat out, with a few "facts"

of your own relating to the "circumstances"

and as to how badly you've been done to.

Gotta be worth a letter or e-mail.

In the car parks that charge there are signs everywhere telling you, and machines for you to pay with......I can't see writing a letter would help any cause.

From memory there wasn't any display on entering the car park but if any Invernessians can confirm this then i must had missed it."

I nearly got caught out at the one I was using the first time I went there after they introduced charges and it was only because they were not handing out tickets for the first two weeks that I didn't get caught out, as although the signs are there for all to see, when you are not expecting them you don't look.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

It'll be the spanish inquisition next

talking of which, i was surprised to see that the last two supermarkets going west in portugal were Morrisons then Lidl, didn't expect to see them two there.

And that Morrisons branch in Gibraltar has done very well recently

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over a year ago

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

Good comment. I use three at different times and places and have never seen such thing. Never thought of it either. Maybe due to competition with other local stores.

Write to Head Office and point this fcat out, with a few "facts"

of your own relating to the "circumstances"

and as to how badly you've been done to.

Gotta be worth a letter or e-mail.

In the car parks that charge there are signs everywhere telling you, and machines for you to pay with......I can't see writing a letter would help any cause.

Or the car parking area doesn't belong to the supermarket and they are governed by local parking regulations.

Lidl in Ashington has a market nearby, as does ASDA and NETTO, but parking is still free on their sites because the land is owned by them

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

"Blimey.... policing must be on its knees down your neck of the woods.... would of thought they would of just given you a warning really and then issue a fine your doing wrong the next time....

Um... might be time to get a new copy of the Highway Code me thinks? Who's to say the PC Plod is totally correct... I'd seek some advise really... might have grounds to appeal?

Don`t laugh at this one!

I drive a tractor for a living. Tractors are limited to 20 mph (apart from exotic bits of kit like JCB Fastracks)In the days before camera vans, a farm entrance a few hundred yards from my depot used to be a favourite place for Plod to get with the hand held camera. On two seperate occasions, the same Plod man put the radar gun on me coming out of the same depot towards him! He never got me as the fekkin tractor I was driving at the time still hadn`t reached top gear by the time I`d reached him!

And yes, I did check that I was the one he trying to clock!

I reckon most people would think I deserve a medal for exceeding the 20 mph speed limit with a tractor!

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"My son was issued a £30 fine, his heinous crime to desrve this?

A cunt stable hahahaha

Your post is a reason why i hate the police, they're a shower of assholes at times. Saying that they were good when my house got broken into a few weeks back.

When i see my mate with his uniform on i call him a prick but when he's dressed normally he's a good mate. Just as well he has a sense of humour unlike some when you crack a few jokes with them.

As if i would make it up and waste my time to complain, something which i wouldnt normally do. The police look after each other. "

Ever stopped to wonder just what we do do without a police force?

Sure they can be petty, they can be arogant, but I for one wouldn't want to do their job.....or be without them.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

Good comment. I use three at different times and places and have never seen such thing. Never thought of it either. Maybe due to competition with other local stores.

Write to Head Office and point this fcat out, with a few "facts"

of your own relating to the "circumstances"

and as to how badly you've been done to.

Gotta be worth a letter or e-mail.

In the car parks that charge there are signs everywhere telling you, and machines for you to pay with......I can't see writing a letter would help any cause.

Or the car parking area doesn't belong to the supermarket and they are governed by local parking regulations.

Lidl in Ashington has a market nearby, as does ASDA and NETTO, but parking is still free on their sites because the land is owned by them"

Not sure, all I know is it was free for a long while and then they started charging

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

When Asda opened in Newton Abbot in Devon they had to, as part of the planning application, charge to park in their carpark as it also services the centre of town.

TCC operate the carpark, and receipts are split with the local council as are running costs.

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over a year ago

"My son was issued a £30 fine, his heinous crime to desrve this?

A cunt stable hahahaha

Your post is a reason why i hate the police, they're a shower of assholes at times. Saying that they were good when my house got broken into a few weeks back.

When i see my mate with his uniform on i call him a prick but when he's dressed normally he's a good mate. Just as well he has a sense of humour unlike some when you crack a few jokes with them.

As if i would make it up and waste my time to complain, something which i wouldnt normally do. The police look after each other.

Ever stopped to wonder just what we do do without a police force?

Sure they can be petty, they can be arogant, but I for one wouldn't want to do their job.....or be without them."

We'd be well and truly fucked !

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x

I got a parking ticket the other day. I was parked in a supermarket car park and it was run by one of those private companies.

Sound like robbing bastards to me!

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!"

Don't pay it!! It is not a fine but it is an unenforcable Invoice. I have had these, you get either three of four letter and then nothing! It was reposrted on Watchdog, search on google for ParkingEye and navigate to the consumer forums... All the details are there and you can safely ignore, even the debt collection company letter (from the same address and people!)

I did do a post about this about 4 weeks ago, obviously no one read it! lol Take a look at http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/27632

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

Only the Council and the Police can issue enforcable fines. These private companies have no legal standing when it comes to charging for parking, even if there are signs.

Anyone who pays one of these is perpetuating this form of highway robery!

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/156986-parking-charge-notice-parking.html

Check that thread out!

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By *heWolfMan
over a year ago

warwickshire

"Id say naughty naughty!! OUCH!

thats gotta hurt the old bank balance! lol

mind u ive done it twice b4 in the past so know wots its like.

you drive?

i'd expect you to be fighting with every other driver out there "

I imagine him chasing after cars, barking, but there you go.

The OP's experience will become more widespread now that Scamera vans and speed cameras can distinguish what type of vehicle has just passed them. With number plate recognition they can tell straight away what vehicle class and therefore what speed you should be doing.

I bet they are rubbing their greedy little paws in anticiaption.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did you get a ticket throught the post?

Have you done anything with it like ring them?

Proof of postage is not proof of receipt. They never send be recorded delivery due to cost.

If you play your cards right as such, you will get off with it.

Act dumb and all will be fine.

look ion the internet at wasy of getting off.

Hope ythe above helps x

I got a parking ticket the other day. I was parked in a supermarket car park and it was run by one of those private companies.

Sound like robbing bastards to me!

Who has heard of pay and display in a Morrisons car park!

I did do a post about this about 4 weeks ago, obviously no one read it! lol Take a look at http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/27632

If you don't pay in our Morrisons carpark, you get a parking fine - not from Morrisions, Not from TCC, but from Northumberland County Council - and it IS enforcable ! because the car park belongs to and is run by the County Council, so not all Morrisons car parks are the same - beware !

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

This is a very good point, just because companies like NCP and TCC patrol and manage some car parks it doesn't mean the car park is the property of the supermarket, very often these carparks are on council owned property and TCC are simply contracted to act on the council's behalf.

This often happens if the said carpark is in within walking distance of a town centre.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now you know why us truckers only do 40mph on a national speed limit single track road...it aint just to annoy car users! Lots of ppl dont know the correct speed limits for the vehicles they drive, so while I feel sorry for the OP, in the eyes of the law, ignorance is no excuse matey...

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

I wonder if the same would apply to Joe Bloggs ... ? or is it another classic case of one rule for us and one for them ?"

back in 1980 when my son was about to be born, my wife was transferred from one hospital to another 50 miles away, I could have travelled with her in the ambulance, but would have meant an expensive return trip, so hopped in my car and followed behind , on the trip we were doing 80mph most of the time, and passed through a village (30 zone) i followed the ambulance @ 60mph ( blues and twos going) on leaving the village plod was parked with a speed gun, i was clocked at 63 mph. i was pulled over explained the situation, and was escorted to the hospital, where the officer's checked that my wife was indeed there and had arrived by said ambulance, i was issued a caution and reminded that although i had been let off i would be not so lucky next time as the caution went on record and would show up if an enquiry was made by another officer within 3 months.

so you see there are times when an officer can use his own judgement and issue a warning rather than a fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes that is the case.

On a motorway its 60mph for a van and 50mph on a dual carriageway.

My mates a traffic cop and he told me that. Didn't help when i got done for speeding two years ago as he couldn't get me off with it!. It was not his division so it was out of his hands.

Good for when you want info on the wee scumbag who broke into my house recently and also he lets me know when and where the mobile speed vans will be out

Good! If I heard of a copper getting 'mates' off the hook i'd have him done!"

Ahh, but what if that copper was your mate though?

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

just to clarify a tiny point, most if not all speed camera's are in fact not operated by the police force at all, they are private companies doing the job on behalf of said force.

All legal and above board, but never under review of said force, you do have a right to appeal, and in some case's providing you have reasonable evidence to the contrary ( tachograph and other the likes of) you can get tickets over turned.

it is known and excepted that certain types of safety camera's do get it wrong in that some HGV's cause them to give a false reading.

And any way at the end of the day no matter what class of vehicle you drive it's you the driver who is responsible for it speed.

I was until a while ago a commercial driver and as such subject to different speed limits for the type of vehicle i drove, so meant i had to constantly adjust my driving style to each vehicle. And also put up with some rather unkind reactions to my speeds on semi rural and urban carriage ways. personally i think all drivers should under go a driver awareness course maybe every five years or so, us commercial drivers have to take a practical test every two years or so dependent on company safety policy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just had two bits of good news today re my parking ticket.

Phoned my manager and told him what had happened and he was aware of those private companies who issue tickets. As i use a company vehicle my employers would had got any paperwork from the parking company and its apparently not the first time from them or any other private ones. He said i was too ignore it and not to worry about it.

Big thanks to Rumour for that advice.

Also my email to Morrisons. They apologised but did mentioned their parking notices are clearly visible which i have accepted. They are sending me £15 worth of shopping vouchers as a goodwill gesture and to not let it put a dampener on my holiday.

That's what you call customer satisfaction

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Result !!! I love Morrisons even more now

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"its apparently not the first time from them or any other private ones"

Some of these errrr “Companies” have recently featured on the BBC Watchdog programme

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"personally i think all drivers should under go a driver awareness course maybe"

If people learned to drive with confidence, that'd solve half the congestions problems, motorist they may be, driver's hummm well, a great many have a question mark above their head, oh and before anyone jumps on me, I passed my test in 1981

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

pay the fine and learn from it! i try to dodge payin on 60 quid 3 points and they bumped it up to 120! lesson learned!! and everyone laughin because i drive like a pensioner!! its easy to get caught but some of the cameras are just money machines xx

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"i try to dodge payin on 60 quid 3 points and they bumped it up to 120! "

See, you could have had a BOGOF at half the price

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i try to dodge payin on 60 quid 3 points and they bumped it up to 120!

See, you could have had a BOGOF at half the price

i should have just paid it there n then instead of tryin to be a smart arse it was my own fault and lesson learned from it lol xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I have filled in the form, confirming I was driving the vehicle. I am expecting a reply confirming a £60 fine and 3 points.

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By *uton_coupleCouple
over a year ago

luton

"Now you know why us truckers only do 40mph on a national speed limit single track road...it aint just to annoy car users! Lots of ppl dont know the correct speed limits for the vehicles they drive, so while I feel sorry for the OP, in the eyes of the law, ignorance is no excuse matey...

the OP did say allready ignorance wasnt an excuse / he has my sympathy

i used to drive class 1 , tankers etc etc etc , and mrs luton used to drive a small van

neither of us knew this lower limit for a small van

i think it is absolutely outragous that you are not informed / reminded of these limits pertaining to your vehicle when you get your tax disc reminder

it is obviously needed by the sheer number of folk on here who didnt know this reduced speed limit existed

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over a year ago

Have just read the rules and am astounded

I have driven a small van for years and have broken the law apparently on every occasion of motorway and dual carriageway driving

Thanks for pointing that out and i really feel for ya cause that's fookin stupid

No where in my drivers handbook is that mentioned and it's the first i have heard xx

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

Was talking to a work mate today, turns out he got screwed for it too that is using a light van for private use. I asked him…

Did you contest it and explain that the vehicle was for private use. He said ‘yes’ did it make any difference ‘No they still screwed me for it’.

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

Here’s on for you I just heard about today… my boss has been done for speeding at 38mph in a 30mph zone… but get this…

He is a very serious off-roader/explorer, goes off to the deserts and mountains for weeks at a time. The vehicle a Land Rover 90, hand-built from scratch has three on-board computers for communications and navigation. Because of this he is able to check back on any journey with intimate detail.

According to the data-log the front of the vehicle was doing 36mph as it became level with the 30mph signpost, by the time the rear of the vehicle crossed the line the vehicle speed was data-logged at 30mph.

NONE of this makes any difference he’s still getting screwed for it because technically he broke the law that, states the vehicle must not be exceeding the stated limit at the point that any part of it crosses the line.

‘Yes’ technically he broke the law but he can prove ‘minor error’ on his part but it makes NO DIFFRENCE they CAN nick him and so they WILL, indeed they have.

Is this justice… is it bollocks! Is this for safety, is it bollocks!

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire

has long as the van weight is not exceeding 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight.

The speed limit are:

50mph Single Carriageway

60mph Dual Carriageway

70mph Motorway

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

pleaded guilty by post and was just expecting 3 points and £60 fine, but I've been offered a speed awareness course, so I'm bloody chuffed to bits

It will cost me £69 but I wont have any points on my license

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"pleaded guilty by post and was just expecting 3 points and £60 fine, but I've been offered a speed awareness course, so I'm bloody chuffed to bits

It will cost me £69 but I wont have any points on my license

My son has just received the course option, it's a one off offer as you only get to do it the once.....

Glad it worked out that way for you, particularly as you were caught out in such silly circumstances.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"pleaded guilty by post and was just expecting 3 points and £60 fine, but I've been offered a speed awareness course, so I'm bloody chuffed to bits

It will cost me £69 but I wont have any points on my license

nice price, hope you get a female instructor lol

shame it isn't at castle coombe

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