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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

I am absolutely amazed!!!!!1i don't know how to feel how so many guys on here say they are in a relationship with their other half but are on here to find meets without there wives/girlfriends knowing ,how awfull is that !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each to their own,

But i wont be meeting any of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what about the so called single girls that are actually married on hereand ya only find that out after chatting to them! aint that as bad? so why just t arnish the guys in this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not just men!

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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

I agree its just the deciept and I don't know how they feel its ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ain't it awful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's their business

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i supose everyone on here has their own reasons for joining! judge now least we be judged and all that nobody knows someone elses circumstances

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Despite having a single girl profile I'm married but I do say that on my profile. We have a couple account and also a single one each too

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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

so if not happy with current partner why not cut the ties and explore your fantasies on your own??

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford


"I am absolutely amazed!!!!!1i don't know how to feel how so many guys on here say they are in a relationship with their other half but are on here to find meets without there wives/girlfriends knowing ,how awfull is that !!"
and women to be fair

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

lots of people on here have partners ...men and women ...im not sure why this still amazes people !

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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

I totally respect if your up up front and honest with a a profile ..on your own and then as a Cpl

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Don't care as long as they don't involve us, whine about not getting meets or openly discuss their partner on the forums.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not just men! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so if not happy with current partner why not cut the ties and explore your fantasies on your own??"

Kids

Financial reasons

The just like sex with other people,

It could be many reasons

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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

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By *attyleedsMan
over a year ago

leeds

Fun is fun no strings fun.. marriages and partners have issues which mean there is no sex . But the love is there fun is a way of coping

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thats cos ur prob h appily married and dont need to do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife."

I don't know if you're naive, but you are making a lot of assumptions about people you don't know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being able to trust someone is a very important requirement for me staying in a relationship

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife."

I share your views. The actions of these members are often defended with a disproportionate response. Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered.

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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

thankyou xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

I share your views. The actions of these members are often defended with a disproportionate response. Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered. "

I don't think that's true at all. I regularly see people jumped on at the slightest hint they *may* be cheating. Even though people have no idea about their circumstances.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

I share your views. The actions of these members are often defended with a disproportionate response. Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered.

I don't think that's true at all. I regularly see people jumped on at the slightest hint they *may* be cheating. Even though people have no idea about their circumstances. "

Circumstance is an over used convienient excuse that I am bored of hearing to excuse infidelity. I doubt the majority of attached ' singles ' are here with their parnters blessing.

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By *exycleanerWoman
over a year ago

pontefract

load of bollox we are now living in a society where you can go on the internet and look for sex when you arent getting enough at home ,its everywhere this site other sites even dating sites for singles married men are lurking on there ,

boils my piss ,stop cheating on your wives guys and man up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

I share your views. The actions of these members are often defended with a disproportionate response. Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered.

I don't think that's true at all. I regularly see people jumped on at the slightest hint they *may* be cheating. Even though people have no idea about their circumstances.

Circumstance is an over used convienient excuse that I am bored of hearing to excuse infidelity. I doubt the majority of attached ' singles ' are here with their parnters blessing. "

And what you led you to jump to that conclusion? The party of witches behind you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people don't like/can't be alone so they hook up with anyone and carry on sleeping with other people, And when they get caught they just move on to the next "victim", I have seen it so many times

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife."

you arent naive, it is awful and in an ideal world they wouldnt be cluttering up a swingers site, but it happens, some will say on a profile, so will say in a 1st or 2nd message, that is the fairest they should be with people here, let people make there own informed decisions, the worst of the worst are those that drag others into there web of lies by not only lying to there wives/husbands/partners but lying to people here aswell, that is not swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

I share your views. The actions of these members are often defended with a disproportionate response. Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered.

I don't think that's true at all. I regularly see people jumped on at the slightest hint they *may* be cheating. Even though people have no idea about their circumstances.

Circumstance is an over used convienient excuse that I am bored of hearing to excuse infidelity. I doubt the majority of attached ' singles ' are here with their parnters blessing.

And what you led you to jump to that conclusion? The party of witches behind you?"

No, they are busy flying their broomsticks around. Simple mathamatics. Volume of alleged singles over population over marriage stats.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So how many of you have always checked the marital status of people you meet & play with at clubs/parties?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people don't like/can't be alone so they hook up with anyone and carry on sleeping with other people, And when they get caught they just move on to the next "victim", I have seen it so many times"
So what do your propose we do, burn them at the stake?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

I share your views. The actions of these members are often defended with a disproportionate response. Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered.

I don't think that's true at all. I regularly see people jumped on at the slightest hint they *may* be cheating. Even though people have no idea about their circumstances.

Circumstance is an over used convienient excuse that I am bored of hearing to excuse infidelity. I doubt the majority of attached ' singles ' are here with their parnters blessing.

And what you led you to jump to that conclusion? The party of witches behind you?

No, they are busy flying their broomsticks around. Simple mathamatics. Volume of alleged singles over population over marriage stats. "

OK... so what's the maths then?

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By *ddie02Couple
over a year ago

northern


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

I share your views. The actions of these members are often defended with a disproportionate response. Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered.

I don't think that's true at all. I regularly see people jumped on at the slightest hint they *may* be cheating. Even though people have no idea about their circumstances.

Circumstance is an over used convienient excuse that I am bored of hearing to excuse infidelity. I doubt the majority of attached ' singles ' are here with their parnters blessing. "

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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

well I will think again next time xxxxxxx

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"So how many of you have always checked the marital status of people you meet & play with at clubs/parties?"

we do try do all the checks reasonably possible through chatting and looking at the ring finger, if either has any doubt we wont play, just because we are at a club doesnt mean will play with anyone thats there, also we tend to only attend couples nights at our local club which only allow limited vetted singles in on those nights.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So how many of you have always checked the marital status of people you meet & play with at clubs/parties?

we do try do all the checks reasonably possible through chatting and looking at the ring finger, if either has any doubt we wont play, just because we are at a club doesnt mean will play with anyone thats there, also we tend to only attend couples nights at our local club which only allow limited vetted singles in on those nights."

I'll admit to being shocked the first time we went to a couples night at how many men there were with a pasty white band on their ring finger - obviously having removed their ring, but still in a 'couple'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

I share your views. The actions of these members are often defended with a disproportionate response. Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered.

I don't think that's true at all. I regularly see people jumped on at the slightest hint they *may* be cheating. Even though people have no idea about their circumstances.

Circumstance is an over used convienient excuse that I am bored of hearing to excuse infidelity. I doubt the majority of attached ' singles ' are here with their parnters blessing.

And what you led you to jump to that conclusion? The party of witches behind you?

No, they are busy flying their broomsticks around. Simple mathamatics. Volume of alleged singles over population over marriage stats.

OK... so what's the maths then?"

I dont wish to banned so I will be polite. Im guessing you are married. Single profile. As mentioned previoulsy, you are responding with a dispropotionate amount of aggression. So, are defending a morally untenable position with a misplaced passion and anger to justify your actions. Please think about the maths. The basic formula is in my previous post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im married and state that too.

Some men have met me though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am absolutely amazed!!!!!1i don't know how to feel how so many guys on here say they are in a relationship with their other half but are on here to find meets without there wives/girlfriends knowing ,how awfull is that !!"

I'm married. I will not explain my reasons for 'cluttering up the site'.

They are personal.

Get off your soapbox.

Live and let live.

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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

ha ha if your trefering to me ,I don't know but no we are not married and have a great time on this site for the last siv years and are loving it xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dont wish to banned so I will be polite. Im guessing you are married. Single profile. As mentioned previoulsy, you are responding with a dispropotionate amount of aggression. So, are defending a morally untenable position with a misplaced passion and anger to justify your actions. Please think about the maths. The basic formula is in my previous post. "

Actually you've made yourself look foolish and illustrated my point very well - that jumping to conclusions is pointless.

This discussion is nothing other than a rant with little to no substance. So it appears are your maths.

I'm really not very angry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

I share your views. The actions of these members are often defended with a disproportionate response. Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered.

I don't think that's true at all. I regularly see people jumped on at the slightest hint they *may* be cheating. Even though people have no idea about their circumstances.

Circumstance is an over used convienient excuse that I am bored of hearing to excuse infidelity. I doubt the majority of attached ' singles ' are here with their parnters blessing.

And what you led you to jump to that conclusion? The party of witches behind you?

No, they are busy flying their broomsticks around. Simple mathamatics. Volume of alleged singles over population over marriage stats.

OK... so what's the maths then?

I dont wish to banned so I will be polite. Im guessing you are married. Single profile. As mentioned previoulsy, you are responding with a dispropotionate amount of aggression. So, are defending a morally untenable position with a misplaced passion and anger to justify your actions. Please think about the maths. The basic formula is in my previous post. "
Well you are not exactly psychics of the year its says that she is married on her profile!

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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

do you know it was just a question to see what fellow swingers felt about this matter,discution now closed,thanks for your repls xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

I share your views. The actions of these members are often defended with a disproportionate response. Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered.

I don't think that's true at all. I regularly see people jumped on at the slightest hint they *may* be cheating. Even though people have no idea about their circumstances.

Circumstance is an over used convienient excuse that I am bored of hearing to excuse infidelity. I doubt the majority of attached ' singles ' are here with their parnters blessing.

And what you led you to jump to that conclusion? The party of witches behind you?"

ouch!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"do you know it was just a question to see what fellow swingers felt about this matter,discution now closed,thanks for your repls xx"
You can't close a discussion.

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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow


"I must be naïve then ,I just think its awfull to the other half who don't know what there bf/husband is up to on the sly......or gf/wife.

I don't know if you're naive, but you are making a lot of assumptions about people you don't know."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"do you know it was just a question to see what fellow swingers felt about this matter,discution now closed,thanks for your repls xx"

I'm afraid open forums don't work like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dont wish to banned so I will be polite. Im guessing you are married. Single profile. As mentioned previoulsy, you are responding with a dispropotionate amount of aggression. So, are defending a morally untenable position with a misplaced passion and anger to justify your actions. Please think about the maths. The basic formula is in my previous post.

Actually you've made yourself look foolish and illustrated my point very well - that jumping to conclusions is pointless.

This discussion is nothing other than a rant with little to no substance. So it appears are your maths.

I'm really not very angry

Text book dismissal followed by denial closely followed by justification and celebration. Have I really jumped to conculsions or hit the nail on the head? "

I don't much care what you think. But I find your responses amusing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"do you know it was just a question to see what fellow swingers felt about this matter,discution now closed,thanks for your repls xxYou can't close a discussion. "

I've lost count of how many times the male half of a swinging couple attempts to chat me up with a view to meeting without the wife's knowledge...I'm not judging though. Never have, none of my business you see!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am absolutely amazed!!!!!1i don't know how to feel how so many guys on here say they are in a relationship with their other half but are on here to find meets without there wives/girlfriends knowing ,how awfull is that !!"

My other half and I both play alone with full knowledge and permission, but we do offer advice if we think something is not right. And by the way, there are a lot of 'single' ladies on here who are playing away as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you don't like it leave the site and join one that only allows couples. Or only go to couples only nights at clubs. Or hold your own couples only parties

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"do you know it was just a question to see what fellow swingers felt about this matter,discution now closed,thanks for your repls xxYou can't close a discussion.

I've lost count of how many times the male half of a swinging couple attempts to chat me up with a view to meeting without the wife's knowledge...I'm not judging though. Never have, none of my business you see! "
Weirdly, thats happened to me on more than one occasion too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you don't like it leave the site and join one that only allows couples. Or only go to couples only nights at clubs. Or hold your own couples only parties "

But just don't believe they're really couples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dont wish to banned so I will be polite. Im guessing you are married. Single profile. As mentioned previoulsy, you are responding with a dispropotionate amount of aggression. So, are defending a morally untenable position with a misplaced passion and anger to justify your actions. Please think about the maths. The basic formula is in my previous post.

Actually you've made yourself look foolish and illustrated my point very well - that jumping to conclusions is pointless.

This discussion is nothing other than a rant with little to no substance. So it appears are your maths.

I'm really not very angry

Text book dismissal followed by denial closely followed by justification and celebration. Have I really jumped to conculsions or hit the nail on the head?

I don't much care what you think. But I find your responses amusing."

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"do you know it was just a question to see what fellow swingers felt about this matter,discution now closed,thanks for your repls xxYou can't close a discussion.

I've lost count of how many times the male half of a swinging couple attempts to chat me up with a view to meeting without the wife's knowledge...I'm not judging though. Never have, none of my business you see! Weirdly, thats happened to me on more than one occasion too! "

Takes a lot to shock me...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am absolutely amazed!!!!!1i don't know how to feel how so many guys on here say they are in a relationship with their other half but are on here to find meets without there wives/girlfriends knowing ,how awfull is that !!"

But you are happy to meet women in the same position oh the irony

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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

hat gave you that idea ,no we are not at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hat gave you that idea ,no we are not at all"

But you clearly do and have!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am absolutely amazed!!!!!1i don't know how to feel how so many guys on here say they are in a relationship with their other half but are on here to find meets without there wives/girlfriends knowing ,how awfull is that !!"

It's awful but why can't guy's just be honest on here . What's wrong with been honest I ask

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree its just the deciept and I don't know how they feel its ok

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Until you know their circumstances, think it's best you don't judge. You don't have to meet them. But there may be some fairly significant reasons they are on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gets on my wick too, as a single girl on here I'm developing a very cynical view of fidelity and relationships that I never had before.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am absolutely amazed!!!!!1i don't know how to feel how so many guys on here say they are in a relationship with their other half but are on here to find meets without there wives/girlfriends knowing ,how awfull is that !!

It's awful but why can't guy's just be honest on here . What's wrong with been honest I ask "
No matter what guys do, whether they lie or whether they are honest they will still have their balls chopped off and nailed to a wooden post with a stick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Find em?...block em!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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You really are the most unfunny people on here and trust me I have spoken to a few!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to be clear

I am single

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree its just the deciept and I don't know how they feel its ok

Until you know their circumstances, think it's best you don't judge. You don't have to meet them. But there may be some fairly significant reasons they are on here. "

Exactly!

I'm not in favour of people cheating. But I also know that I know nothing of other peoples lives - even people I think I know quite well. I can't see any point to sweeping rants other than stirring up, well more sweeping rants.

But then again it passes the time..

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By *orkduo OP   Couple
over a year ago

york

I wasn't judging but merely asked a question ,anyway it seemed have rubbed some ppl up the wrong way so im out now ,we all have an opinion n wont allways agree wich if fine guys.happy swinging x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am absolutely amazed!!!!!1i don't know how to feel how so many guys on here say they are in a relationship with their other half but are on here to find meets without there wives/girlfriends knowing ,how awfull is that !!

It's awful but why can't guy's just be honest on here . What's wrong with been honest I ask No matter what guys do, whether they lie or whether they are honest they will still have their balls chopped off and nailed to a wooden post with a stick."

Some of them like it though - I've seen the videos

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By *exycleanerWoman
over a year ago

pontefract


"Gets on my wick too, as a single girl on here I'm developing a very cynical view of fidelity and relationships that I never had before. "
and finding married men on dating sites its just making me think men are a bunch of tos####

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"[Removed by poster at 28/06/14 23:11:32]"

You did well to remove that a psychic is fuck all to do with physics, funny as fuck you thought it was though fair made me laugh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wasn't judging but merely asked a question ,anyway it seemed have rubbed some ppl up the wrong way so im out now ,we all have an opinion n wont allways agree wich if fine guys.happy swinging x"

You didn't ask anything. You threw out a cat...pigeons reacted.

Pleased?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"[Removed by poster at 28/06/14 23:11:32]

You did well to remove that a psychic is fuck all to do with physics, funny as fuck you thought it was though fair made me laugh. "

Seem to of lit a fuse. Will bow out and amuse myself else where before people implode. Night all.

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By *airy_HettyWoman
over a year ago

Greater London

Wow. How nice to live in a world thats black and white but no grey bits. Smug bastards do make me laugh but you know what, I want to avoid that bunch of peeps the most!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gets on my wick too, as a single girl on here I'm developing a very cynical view of fidelity and relationships that I never had before. and finding married men on dating sites its just making me think men are a bunch of tos####"

Wow if guys were that jugemental about single women we would all think they are neuritic fast food eaters with insecurity issues and weight problems. Guys though don't tar all women as that as the majority just aren't but I guess we are more open minded and not as cynical.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you don't like it leave the site and join one that only allows couples. Or only go to couples only nights at clubs. Or hold your own couples only parties

But just don't believe they're really couples "

Yes,you might get one turn up alone because the partner has a bit of a dodgy tummy tonight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"[Removed by poster at 28/06/14 23:11:32]

You did well to remove that a psychic is fuck all to do with physics, funny as fuck you thought it was though fair made me laugh.

Seem to of lit a fuse. Will bow out and amuse myself else where before people implode. Night all. "

Good night.

If you need a ladder to get out of your hole give me a shout

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"[Removed by poster at 28/06/14 23:11:32]

You did well to remove that a psychic is fuck all to do with physics, funny as fuck you thought it was though fair made me laugh.

Seem to of lit a fuse. Will bow out and amuse myself else where before people implode. Night all.

Good night.

If you need a ladder to get out of your hole give me a shout "

You calling me slack ? Ladder indeed !

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By *exycleanerWoman
over a year ago

pontefract

excuse me im no way to blame for what happens in my life but there are far too many guys cheating pure and simple !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"[Removed by poster at 28/06/14 23:11:32]

You did well to remove that a psychic is fuck all to do with physics, funny as fuck you thought it was though fair made me laugh.

Seem to of lit a fuse. Will bow out and amuse myself else where before people implode. Night all.

Good night.

If you need a ladder to get out of your hole give me a shout

You calling me slack ? Ladder indeed ! "

I have dug so many I bought a lift.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"[Removed by poster at 28/06/14 23:11:32]

You did well to remove that a psychic is fuck all to do with physics, funny as fuck you thought it was though fair made me laugh.

Seem to of lit a fuse. Will bow out and amuse myself else where before people implode. Night all.

Good night.

If you need a ladder to get out of your hole give me a shout

You calling me slack ? Ladder indeed ! "

I admire the keep digging approach - good night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"excuse me im no way to blame for what happens in my life but there are far too many guys cheating pure and simple !!!"

Actually you are pretty much responsible for most things that happen to you in life its amazing you actually think it could be someone else is to blame. You make your own fate and decide your own destiny from the education you gain in your youth to the path you subsequently choose to follow.

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By *exycleanerWoman
over a year ago

pontefract


"excuse me im no way to blame for what happens in my life but there are far too many guys cheating pure and simple !!!

Actually you are pretty much responsible for most things that happen to you in life its amazing you actually think it could be someone else is to blame. You make your own fate and decide your own destiny from the education you gain in your youth to the path you subsequently choose to follow. "
you not know me but judge me there's no way i am to blame for my bulling controlling narcissist husband cheating on me even tho he had more sex than some guys on here have hot dinners ,im finding far too many cheaters lurking around to ever trust men again

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think it is best just to keep out of trying to understand others and their relationships. Most of us have our own challenges and issues in life without falling into the trap of projecting our own discomfort etc onto the scapegoats of the season. As long as we set our own morals and rules and adhere to them that is all we need to focus on. Be happy that others are open and help you make the right choices for you.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I think it is best just to keep out of trying to understand others and their relationships. Most of us have our own challenges and issues in life without falling into the trap of projecting our own discomfort etc onto the scapegoats of the season. As long as we set our own morals and rules and adhere to them that is all we need to focus on. Be happy that others are open and help you make the right choices for you. "

well said!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"excuse me im no way to blame for what happens in my life but there are far too many guys cheating pure and simple !!!

Actually you are pretty much responsible for most things that happen to you in life its amazing you actually think it could be someone else is to blame. You make your own fate and decide your own destiny from the education you gain in your youth to the path you subsequently choose to follow. you not know me but judge me there's no way i am to blame for my bulling controlling narcissist husband cheating on me even tho he had more sex than some guys on here have hot dinners ,im finding far too many cheaters lurking around to ever trust men again "

As you don't know all men yet seem to think its fit to castigate them the same as your ex. You make your own destiny and even your ex is questionable as you can always leave someone there are so many people who do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it is best just to keep out of trying to understand others and their relationships. Most of us have our own challenges and issues in life without falling into the trap of projecting our own discomfort etc onto the scapegoats of the season. As long as we set our own morals and rules and adhere to them that is all we need to focus on. Be happy that others are open and help you make the right choices for you. "

Agree. As long as others are open and don't drag me into their deceits I'm happy and tolerant, honesty is paramount to me. xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it is best just to keep out of trying to understand others and their relationships. Most of us have our own challenges and issues in life without falling into the trap of projecting our own discomfort etc onto the scapegoats of the season. As long as we set our own morals and rules and adhere to them that is all we need to focus on. Be happy that others are open and help you make the right choices for you. "

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol


". Genuine swingers and singles are becomming increasingly out numbered. "

where did you get that 'fact' from ?

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"So how many of you have always checked the marital status of people you meet & play with at clubs/parties?

we do try do all the checks reasonably possible through chatting and looking at the ring finger, if either has any doubt we wont play, just because we are at a club doesnt mean will play with anyone thats there, also we tend to only attend couples nights at our local club which only allow limited vetted singles in on those nights.

I'll admit to being shocked the first time we went to a couples night at how many men there were with a pasty white band on their ring finger - obviously having removed their ring, but still in a 'couple'."

like I said, this is one of the things we always look for, also we have a good chat, and if any of us have any doubt we dont play, its a swingers club, doesnt mean we have to play with someone because they say they are a couple, or they claim to be single, it is our choice to not knowingly play with any cheats, we arent stupid enough to think you can be total 100% sure but we try to be as sure as we can about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wasn't judging but merely asked a question ,anyway it seemed have rubbed some ppl up the wrong way so im out now ,we all have an opinion n wont allways agree wich if fine guys.happy swinging x"

To be fair you were judging. You said how awful is that. That sounds like a judgement to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People have their own reasons for doing what they do. Its not our place to judge them. So long as we are honest with eachother thays what matters to us. Live and let live. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going off at a slight tangent. It would be good if marital status were on the personal details, so that people could filter out marrieds if they want? I realise some people would lie about it, but it would save having to glean an impression from details like can't accommodate etc?

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Going off at a slight tangent. It would be good if marital status were on the personal details, so that people could filter out marrieds if they want? I realise some people would lie about it, but it would save having to glean an impression from details like can't accommodate etc? "

If you realise people would lie them what would be the point in the first place, and not being able to acom is not an indicator, I don't acom yet I am single.

At the end of the day if a guy or girl is attached and they tell you then as a grown up the choice is yours to say no thank you, it's quite simple

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Despite having a single girl profile I'm married but I do say that on my profile. We have a couple account and also a single one each too

"

So the op doesn't apply to you then does it?

I'm not the moral police, what others choose to do: their business, I just don't meet them!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"so if not happy with current partner why not cut the ties and explore your fantasies on your own??"

Why not concentrate on your own happy, secure relationship rather than the sad sacks who need to cheat?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We say its their business not ours , who are we or you to judge anyone to why they are here.

If people were not so quick to judge!!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I think it is best just to keep out of trying to understand others and their relationships. Most of us have our own challenges and issues in life without falling into the trap of projecting our own discomfort etc onto the scapegoats of the season. As long as we set our own morals and rules and adhere to them that is all we need to focus on. Be happy that others are open and help you make the right choices for you. "

Very balanced post.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"I wasn't judging but merely asked a question ,anyway it seemed have rubbed some ppl up the wrong way so im out now ,we all have an opinion n wont allways agree wich if fine guys.happy swinging x

To be fair you were judging. You said how awful is that. That sounds like a judgement to me "

everyone judges, everyone uses judgement, it is only called into question when someone dislikes been excluded because of that judgement, some judge not to meet cheats, some judge not to be bothered by cheats, neither should be told they shouldnt judge, as everyone has the right to make there own judgement on any situation they like, its part of life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"do you know it was just a question to see what fellow swingers felt about this matter,discution now closed,thanks for your repls xxYou can't close a discussion.

I've lost count of how many times the male half of a swinging couple attempts to chat me up with a view to meeting without the wife's knowledge...I'm not judging though. Never have, none of my business you see! "

Had that lots of times. Plus the female half of the couple doing the same thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gets on my wick too, as a single girl on here I'm developing a very cynical view of fidelity and relationships that I never had before. and finding married men on dating sites its just making me think men are a bunch of tos####"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Going off at a slight tangent. It would be good if marital status were on the personal details, so that people could filter out marrieds if they want? I realise some people would lie about it, but it would save having to glean an impression from details like can't accommodate etc? "

Why not go the whole hog and say 'no swingers please'?

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Gets on my wick too, as a single girl on here I'm developing a very cynical view of fidelity and relationships that I never had before. and finding married men on dating sites its just making me think men are a bunch of tos####

"

Then why look for men then? Why look on dating sites if they are all so bad? Personally I have found some great guys on here, lovely guys that I consider friends as well as lovers

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By *exycleanerWoman
over a year ago

pontefract


"Gets on my wick too, as a single girl on here I'm developing a very cynical view of fidelity and relationships that I never had before. and finding married men on dating sites its just making me think men are a bunch of tos####

Then why look for men then? Why look on dating sites if they are all so bad? Personally I have found some great guys on here, lovely guys that I consider friends as well as lovers"
i just sometimes go on dating sites to see if i can find a nice guy on there who will treat me how i want to be treated ,wont tell me what to wear or do and want me to do sexual stuff i not want to do ,but as ive come across too many cheaters it really gets you down cos its too easy to cheat nowadays

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gets on my wick too, as a single girl on here I'm developing a very cynical view of fidelity and relationships that I never had before. and finding married men on dating sites its just making me think men are a bunch of tos####

Then why look for men then? Why look on dating sites if they are all so bad? Personally I have found some great guys on here, lovely guys that I consider friends as well as lovers"

Maybe just thought she might find a decent one you dont know until you look i guess.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Going off at a slight tangent. It would be good if marital status were on the personal details, so that people could filter out marrieds if they want? I realise some people would lie about it, but it would save having to glean an impression from details like can't accommodate etc?

Why not go the whole hog and say 'no swingers please'?"

no need for that really, its not to bad an idea, it gives cheats a chance to be honest on there profile and let the filters keep them away from people that arent looking for them, helping things to run smoother, in turn maybe cutting down on the " im a cheat why cant I get a meet" posts on the forum, im not stupid enough to think everyone would be honest enough to use it but it probably wouldnt be a bad thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Going off at a slight tangent. It would be good if marital status were on the personal details, so that people could filter out marrieds if they want? I realise some people would lie about it, but it would save having to glean an impression from details like can't accommodate etc?

Why not go the whole hog and say 'no swingers please'?

no need for that really, its not to bad an idea, it gives cheats a chance to be honest on there profile and let the filters keep them away from people that arent looking for them, helping things to run smoother, in turn maybe cutting down on the " im a cheat why cant I get a meet" posts on the forum, im not stupid enough to think everyone would be honest enough to use it but it probably wouldnt be a bad thing."

I think if you're not happy with the idea that married people can choose to have sex with people outside their marriage (consentingly of course) - you're on the wrong website!

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Gets on my wick too, as a single girl on here I'm developing a very cynical view of fidelity and relationships that I never had before. and finding married men on dating sites its just making me think men are a bunch of tos####

Then why look for men then? Why look on dating sites if they are all so bad? Personally I have found some great guys on here, lovely guys that I consider friends as well as lovers"

because you have to look to find the decent ones, and you have to look hard to find the genuinely single decent men, but they are there, just you wont find them if you dont look.

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By *exycleanerWoman
over a year ago

pontefract


"Going off at a slight tangent. It would be good if marital status were on the personal details, so that people could filter out marrieds if they want? I realise some people would lie about it, but it would save having to glean an impression from details like can't accommodate etc?

Why not go the whole hog and say 'no swingers please'?

no need for that really, its not to bad an idea, it gives cheats a chance to be honest on there profile and let the filters keep them away from people that arent looking for them, helping things to run smoother, in turn maybe cutting down on the " im a cheat why cant I get a meet" posts on the forum, im not stupid enough to think everyone would be honest enough to use it but it probably wouldnt be a bad thing.

I think if you're not happy with the idea that married people can choose to have sex with people outside their marriage (consentingly of course) - you're on the wrong website!"
thats just my point its the ones that do it behind their wives back that grinds my gears x

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Going off at a slight tangent. It would be good if marital status were on the personal details, so that people could filter out marrieds if they want? I realise some people would lie about it, but it would save having to glean an impression from details like can't accommodate etc?

Why not go the whole hog and say 'no swingers please'?

no need for that really, its not to bad an idea, it gives cheats a chance to be honest on there profile and let the filters keep them away from people that arent looking for them, helping things to run smoother, in turn maybe cutting down on the " im a cheat why cant I get a meet" posts on the forum, im not stupid enough to think everyone would be honest enough to use it but it probably wouldnt be a bad thing."

if you need to lie/cheat/hurt/destroy someones life to have sex outside of a marriage, then this is not the place/lifestyle for you, and if there is potential that you will drag innocent others into your lies (angry husbands/wives turning, been named in divorce cases) this is not the place/lifestyle for you, none of that is swinging, all of it is cheating.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"Going off at a slight tangent. It would be good if marital status were on the personal details, so that people could filter out marrieds if they want? I realise some people would lie about it, but it would save having to glean an impression from details like can't accommodate etc?

Why not go the whole hog and say 'no swingers please'?

no need for that really, its not to bad an idea, it gives cheats a chance to be honest on there profile and let the filters keep them away from people that arent looking for them, helping things to run smoother, in turn maybe cutting down on the " im a cheat why cant I get a meet" posts on the forum, im not stupid enough to think everyone would be honest enough to use it but it probably wouldnt be a bad thing.

I think if you're not happy with the idea that married people can choose to have sex with people outside their marriage (consentingly of course) - you're on the wrong website!"

no one is saying that, married with consent is swinging, they are talking about an option for married and playing away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my brother in law met his wife on the internet and they have been married for about 15 years, he isnt the type of bloke to cheat on a woman, so there are some decent ones out there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you need to lie/cheat/hurt/destroy someones life to have sex outside of a marriage, then this is not the place/lifestyle for you, and if there is potential that you will drag innocent others into your lies (angry husbands/wives turning, been named in divorce cases) this is not the place/lifestyle for you, none of that is swinging, all of it is cheating."

This is true - however anybody that meets another 'single' on here takes the risk that they're not really single at all, unless you already know them intimately.

It's also possible that 'couples' you meet are actually two people from other relationships.

What I think does cause a problem is people using a swinging site as a dating site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"no one is saying that, married with consent is swinging, they are talking about an option for married and playing away."

Yes but if you can filter out married people doesn't that mean you filter out the target audience? - swingers?

What other filters?

Married with consent

Married but cheating

Married but incapable of sex

Married but partner is already cheating

Married, staying together for kids but not happy

Engaged with consent

Engaged but cheating

Long term relationship but cheating

Sometimes I wear odd socks

Occasionally like marmite

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Good morning all, from an upfront and happily married man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good morning all, from an upfront and happily married man "

Bastard

I mean good morning from a happily married woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it's their business"

If you don't agree with them been in here, don't meet them.....simples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you need to lie/cheat/hurt/destroy someones life to have sex outside of a marriage, then this is not the place/lifestyle for you, and if there is potential that you will drag innocent others into your lies (angry husbands/wives turning, been named in divorce cases) this is not the place/lifestyle for you, none of that is swinging, all of it is cheating.

This is true - however anybody that meets another 'single' on here takes the risk that they're not really single at all, unless you already know them intimately.

It's also possible that 'couples' you meet are actually two people from other relationships.

What I think does cause a problem is people using a swinging site as a dating site."

Why does that cause problems ? I ave been really surprised since I changed my profile how many guys want the same thing and where else can you find someone and not be afraid to tell them you have had a mmmmmf and loved it.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"no one is saying that, married with consent is swinging, they are talking about an option for married and playing away.

Yes but if you can filter out married people doesn't that mean you filter out the target audience? - swingers?

What other filters?

Married with consent

Married but cheating

Married but incapable of sex

Married but partner is already cheating

Married, staying together for kids but not happy

Engaged with consent

Engaged but cheating

Long term relationship but cheating

Sometimes I wear odd socks

Occasionally like marmite

...."

silly reply, they are not talking about filtering out swingers, they are talking about a tick box to allow people to see they are playing away/cheating whichever terminlogy, therefore allowing a filter to work for both, allowing those cheating to find people that will play with cheats easier, and allowing those that want to filter cheats out to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What I think does cause a problem is people using a swinging site as a dating site.

Why does that cause problems ? I ave been really surprised since I changed my profile how many guys want the same thing and where else can you find someone and not be afraid to tell them you have had a mmmmmf and loved it. "

Because the expectations (and demands) are quite different between people looking for no strings sex, and those looking for love.

Obviously people can find relationships anywhere, but I don't think this is to place to come and expect it - but more and more seem to and I think it twists the emphasis of expectations.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I think the only reason I'd ever consider going to Shoeburyness woud be to see MoodyMoo. It might be that she throws a cup of coffee over my head because I'm MARRIED!!!!

So I'd ensure it was a frappe to foil any devious deviant plans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"no one is saying that, married with consent is swinging, they are talking about an option for married and playing away.

Yes but if you can filter out married people doesn't that mean you filter out the target audience? - swingers?

What other filters?

Married with consent

Married but cheating

Married but incapable of sex

Married but partner is already cheating

Married, staying together for kids but not happy

Engaged with consent

Engaged but cheating

Long term relationship but cheating

Sometimes I wear odd socks

Occasionally like marmite

....

silly reply, they are not talking about filtering out swingers, they are talking about a tick box to allow people to see they are playing away/cheating whichever terminlogy, therefore allowing a filter to work for both, allowing those cheating to find people that will play with cheats easier, and allowing those that want to filter cheats out to do so."

Apologies - well here's a more sensible reply.

It won't work because if somebody is prepared to cheat the person they married, they really won't give a fuck about lying to strangers!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"no one is saying that, married with consent is swinging, they are talking about an option for married and playing away.

Yes but if you can filter out married people doesn't that mean you filter out the target audience? - swingers?

What other filters?

Married with consent

Married but cheating

Married but incapable of sex

Married but partner is already cheating

Married, staying together for kids but not happy

Engaged with consent

Engaged but cheating

Long term relationship but cheating

Sometimes I wear odd socks

Occasionally like marmite

....

silly reply, they are not talking about filtering out swingers, they are talking about a tick box to allow people to see they are playing away/cheating whichever terminlogy, therefore allowing a filter to work for both, allowing those cheating to find people that will play with cheats easier, and allowing those that want to filter cheats out to do so."

Apologies - well here's a more sensible reply.

It won't work because if somebody is prepared to cheat the person they married, they really won't give a fuck about lying to strangers!

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"if you need to lie/cheat/hurt/destroy someones life to have sex outside of a marriage, then this is not the place/lifestyle for you, and if there is potential that you will drag innocent others into your lies (angry husbands/wives turning, been named in divorce cases) this is not the place/lifestyle for you, none of that is swinging, all of it is cheating.

This is true - however anybody that meets another 'single' on here takes the risk that they're not really single at all, unless you already know them intimately.

It's also possible that 'couples' you meet are actually two people from other relationships.

What I think does cause a problem is people using a swinging site as a dating site."

everyone takes risks everyday, and theres not many things you can be 100% sure on, but you do things, and/or have your ways to limit those risks down as low as you can, only you no what is right for you, what feels right for you , and how your instinct works, the fact that there is cheating people here is not at issue, of course there are, the question is can people who want to cheat (for whatever reasons they deem ok to do so) and people who are happy to play with cheats, play alongside those that just want to swing, with genuine singles and couples, can they use the same website and play happily.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We would rather play with a married man than someone that is very opinionated about other peoples lives. Some people get on great, have families and financial commitments. They love each other as friends but are no longer in love. Do you disrupt your children, their school, your home, become single parents and disrupt entire lives just to leave on a whim or do you stand by the commitment you made to your family and try to do the right thing. Do you think it's easy to be married to someone you no longer fancy or are in love with? Sometimes you have to put your own happiness on the back burner for the sake of your children - if that means having affairs or NSA sex to keep you feeling alive and to numb the boredom then so be it. You should never judge someone - until you walk in their shoes. Admittedly there are people that are just players - of that I offer no explanation. But do not be so judgemental you clearly have no experience of xxx

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"no one is saying that, married with consent is swinging, they are talking about an option for married and playing away.

Yes but if you can filter out married people doesn't that mean you filter out the target audience? - swingers?

What other filters?

Married with consent

Married but cheating

Married but incapable of sex

Married but partner is already cheating

Married, staying together for kids but not happy

Engaged with consent

Engaged but cheating

Long term relationship but cheating

Sometimes I wear odd socks

Occasionally like marmite

....

silly reply, they are not talking about filtering out swingers, they are talking about a tick box to allow people to see they are playing away/cheating whichever terminlogy, therefore allowing a filter to work for both, allowing those cheating to find people that will play with cheats easier, and allowing those that want to filter cheats out to do so.

Apologies - well here's a more sensible reply.

It won't work because if somebody is prepared to cheat the person they married, they really won't give a fuck about lying to strangers!"

but thats the point, alot already do have it on there profile or say it in a 1st or 2nd message, just theres no filter in place at the minute, so surely if there willing to do that they would be willing to tick a box.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just because you love someone dose not mean you have everything in common.

It could be that there partner is medically unable, and they dont want to hurt them by saying im of to fuck someone els.

It could be anything its unfair to judge.

personaly if I want a game of footy I dont ask my partner I go out with my mates or mates mates to play.

If I want a game of sex..... I look for a woman that wants to play the sae way I do.

Its a phisical activitie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the only reason I'd ever consider going to Shoeburyness woud be to see MoodyMoo. It might be that she throws a cup of coffee over my head because I'm MARRIED!!!!

So I'd ensure it was a frappe to foil any devious deviant plans "

Lol make it a Caramel one and your on

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"just because you love someone dose not mean you have everything in common.

It could be that there partner is medically unable, and they dont want to hurt them by saying im of to fuck someone els.

It could be anything its unfair to judge.

personaly if I want a game of footy I dont ask my partner I go out with my mates or mates mates to play.

If I want a game of sex..... I look for a woman that wants to play the sae way I do.

Its a phisical activitie"

I think the difference that people find hard to come to terms with is that you would freely tell your partner that you were going to a football match with your mates.

As I said higher up the thread I really don't care what other people do when it comes to this as long as they dont involve us but I do feel your logic is a bit skewed if your reasoning for not telling someone is that it might hurt them to know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good morning all, from an upfront and happily married man "

You must be lying to us. After all you lie to your wife

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I still wouldn't meet somebody wearing odd socks, whatever their circumstances.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Well I still wouldn't meet somebody wearing odd socks, whatever their circumstances."

ummm you are being judgemental and sockist!

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"We would rather play with a married man than someone that is very opinionated about other peoples lives. Some people get on great, have families and financial commitments. They love each other as friends but are no longer in love. Do you disrupt your children, their school, your home, become single parents and disrupt entire lives just to leave on a whim or do you stand by the commitment you made to your family and try to do the right thing. Do you think it's easy to be married to someone you no longer fancy or are in love with? Sometimes you have to put your own happiness on the back burner for the sake of your children - if that means having affairs or NSA sex to keep you feeling alive and to numb the boredom then so be it. You should never judge someone - until you walk in their shoes. Admittedly there are people that are just players - of that I offer no explanation. But do not be so judgemental you clearly have no experience of xxx"

and staying together with no love for each other is not harmful for the children, many many many children are brought up in seperate parent relationships and the children are absolutely fine, its upto the parents to be adults about the split and put the children 1st, not appear on jeremy kyle using them as weapons, and yes we should judge people, we judge everyday if we didnt the world would be a horrible place, its how you use that judgement that matters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not the socks, it's the mixed up feet they're hiding

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"It's not the socks, it's the mixed up feet they're hiding"

that's ok then as its only feetist

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"just because you love someone dose not mean you have everything in common.

It could be that there partner is medically unable, and they dont want to hurt them by saying im of to fuck someone els.

It could be anything its unfair to judge.

personaly if I want a game of footy I dont ask my partner I go out with my mates or mates mates to play.

If I want a game of sex..... I look for a woman that wants to play the sae way I do.

Its a phisical activitie"

but there is a massive difference between telling a loved one your off with the lads for a game of footy, and telling her your going going for a rampant session of raw meaningless sex with someone of the internet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is nobody else's business what people choose to get up to! Too harsh and too quick to judge. Couples are on here shagging other couples and singles, consent or not it's deemed wrong also in some peoples's eyes.

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By *hrissie1961Woman
over a year ago

dumfries and galloway

It's nobodies business why anyone is here. no one is twisting there arm to meet them.

Out in the real world I would think most people think most of the behaviour on here is shocking.

Each person has the right to behave as they wish without being judged by a group of people who know nothing about them

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Gets on my wick too, as a single girl on here I'm developing a very cynical view of fidelity and relationships that I never had before. and finding married men on dating sites its just making me think men are a bunch of tos####

Then why look for men then? Why look on dating sites if they are all so bad? Personally I have found some great guys on here, lovely guys that I consider friends as well as loversi just sometimes go on dating sites to see if i can find a nice guy on there who will treat me how i want to be treated ,wont tell me what to wear or do and want me to do sexual stuff i not want to do ,but as ive come across too many cheaters it really gets you down cos its too easy to cheat nowadays "

I have found some great guys who take me for who I am, you have to say what your likes and dislikes are, people have varying degrees of what is acceptable and what isn't, you have to make the choices, the men are there but you can't label them as tossers just because you haven't found the right one or two yet

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"

Each person has the right to behave as they wish without being judged by a group of people who know nothing about them"

Indeed they do, including every single person who has posted here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's nobodies business why anyone is here. no one is twisting there arm to meet them.

Out in the real world I would think most people think most of the behaviour on here is shocking.

Each person has the right to behave as they wish without being judged by a group of people who know nothing about them"

Amusingly I expect most people in the real world would be more shocked at the idea of a couple swinging than somebody cheating.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"So how many of you have always checked the marital status of people you meet & play with at clubs/parties?"

At clubs or parties they are unlikely to know your home address or telephone number so you won't have to deal with a bunny-boiler that blames you for their cheating partners actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So how many of you have always checked the marital status of people you meet & play with at clubs/parties?

At clubs or parties they are unlikely to know your home address or telephone number so you won't have to deal with a bunny-boiler that blames you for their cheating partners actions."

I've just never really given it any thought when out & about, and yet I would avoid anybody that said they were cheating. Maybe that's the issue though - that if you know you become an accomplice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To each their own, everyone's moral compass is different. It's up to you as the other person what's acceptable to you and your moral compass, if you are okay with it you go with it if not, you don't. Just don't go shoving your morality onto other people. Everyone has the right to make their own choices based on their own morality. And good luck to everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just don't go shoving your morality onto other people. "

Good line.

I often think people on here feel the need to compensate for their sense of morality.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

And for some of us it's not a question of morals, more a question of not wanting complications.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And for some of us it's not a question of morals, more a question of not wanting complications."

I had noted your practical response

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"It's nobodies business why anyone is here. no one is twisting there arm to meet them.

Out in the real world I would think most people think most of the behaviour on here is shocking.

Each person has the right to behave as they wish without being judged by a group of people who know nothing about them"

anybody has a right to judge who they please, its part of life, the thing is if people judge to agree with what people are doing then no one ever says people are judging them, however speak up against what some one does and your the biggest judgemental person there is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To each their own, everyone's moral compass is different. It's up to you as the other person what's acceptable to you and your moral compass, if you are okay with it you go with it if not, you don't. Just don't go shoving your morality onto other people. Everyone has the right to make their own choices based on their own morality. And good luck to everyone "

Totally agree. I don't meet married/attached men, its clear on my profile yet some still message me, fortunately these are the ones that are honest about it. Some tend not to put it on their profile and on a few occasions I've chatted unaware of their situation and only been told when meeting was discussed. To me that is a waste of my time and theirs. Sadly, honesty is too much to ask from some. I'm in no way judging them as I know nothing of their personal situation, neither do I want to, its none of my business. I just do not wish to play with someone else's partner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"however speak up against what some one does and your the biggest judgemental person there is."

True - but if you state your opinion you do invite others to state theirs too.

Be boring otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wasn't judging but merely asked a question ,anyway it seemed have rubbed some ppl up the wrong way so im out now ,we all have an opinion n wont allways agree wich if fine guys.happy swinging x

To be fair you were judging. You said how awful is that. That sounds like a judgement to me

everyone judges, everyone uses judgement, it is only called into question when someone dislikes been excluded because of that judgement, some judge not to meet cheats, some judge not to be bothered by cheats, neither should be told they shouldnt judge, as everyone has the right to make there own judgement on any situation they like, its part of life."

She denied judging, I just pointed out that she was

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

Oh god, this bullshit again!!!

I think it says a lot about the degree of misandry around here that many people still find it acceptable that posts such as the OP single out men, as opposed to both men and women. I've encountered as many, if not more, single women who are cheating on their husbands than men cheating on their wives - but then I would because I tend to look at women's profiles more than men's - just as you may see more men's than women's profiles perhaps.

Single male bashing upon the sanctimonious presumption that they deserve it more than women on account of their gender is one of the least attractive aspects of this site. I, for my part, am amazed we still put up with it. If you're going to criticize something that you feel is wrong then don't be surprised if others take exception to your anti-male sexism if they feel that is equally wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well didn't this thread escalate at warp facto 12

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh god, this bullshit again!!!

I think it says a lot about the degree of misandry around here that many people still find it acceptable that posts such as the OP single out men, as opposed to both men and women. I've encountered as many, if not more, single women who are cheating on their husbands than men cheating on their wives - but then I would because I tend to look at women's profiles more than men's - just as you may see more men's than women's profiles perhaps.

Single male bashing upon the sanctimonious presumption that they deserve it more than women on account of their gender is one of the least attractive aspects of this site. I, for my part, am amazed we still put up with it. If you're going to criticize something that you feel is wrong then don't be surprised if others take exception to your anti-male sexism if they feel that is equally wrong.

"

Totally agree with this, embarrassing how the ratio of the men to women leads to such orientated posts.

Regardless, I suppose if total honesty is there then at least each party is making formed decisions. Sure there are plenty of singles on here who are secretly attached etc, they are worse I'd say.

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

Sorry if I went into a bit of a rant there, but I hate sexism of any kind - it demeans us all as human beings.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"And for some of us it's not a question of morals, more a question of not wanting complications.

I had noted your practical response "

Yep, all for an easy life us

Many years ago as a single I had a fwb that I thought was also single. Every time we met we used to take loads of pics and I would email them to her. Yep, you guessed it, she was married. She went home one day and walked in on her husband knocking one out looking at our pics. Long story short, we ended up meeting for an mmf. We even ended up renting a boat for a week with a single girl we knew, arranging meetings with couples and singles for most of the nights we were away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh god, this bullshit again!!!

I think it says a lot about the degree of misandry around here that many people still find it acceptable that posts such as the OP single out men, as opposed to both men and women. I've encountered as many, if not more, single women who are cheating on their husbands than men cheating on their wives - but then I would because I tend to look at women's profiles more than men's - just as you may see more men's than women's profiles perhaps.

Single male bashing upon the sanctimonious presumption that they deserve it more than women on account of their gender is one of the least attractive aspects of this site. I, for my part, am amazed we still put up with it. If you're going to criticize something that you feel is wrong then don't be surprised if others take exception to your anti-male sexism if they feel that is equally wrong.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"Sorry if I went into a bit of a rant there, but I hate sexism of any kind - it demeans us all as human beings.

"

Says the guy who's 'Not looking for single guys'

My Irony-o-Meter went off the scale

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry if I went into a bit of a rant there, but I hate sexism of any kind - it demeans us all as human beings.

"

Most people are sexist on here in one way or another.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if you were to tell a friend two things..

1. I'm cheating

2. I'm on a swinging site

They would be more shocked in the later!

There are things everyone does in life that does please all. Perhaps it would be a good idea to not be so judgemental.

We all do things for our own reasons.

If we are open and honest with people on here, what's the problem.

If you are looking for a relationship or a partner tnen a swinging site is the wrong place to look.

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By *exycleanerWoman
over a year ago

pontefract

well as im a genuine bona fide single lady who is single as a result of cheating,thats probably why i not like lying cheating men x

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"Sorry if I went into a bit of a rant there, but I hate sexism of any kind - it demeans us all as human beings.

Says the guy who's 'Not looking for single guys'

My Irony-o-Meter went off the scale "

Really?... are you seriously saying you are unable to tell the difference between sexual preference and sexual prejudice?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

What I see here are lots of people accusing others of being judgmental having indulged in a spot of judgement themselves. We have one life which we must live the best way we can while doing the least damage to ourselves and those we love.....unless you believe in reincarnation in which case knock yourself out

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"Sorry if I went into a bit of a rant there, but I hate sexism of any kind - it demeans us all as human beings.

Says the guy who's 'Not looking for single guys'

My Irony-o-Meter went off the scale

Really?... are you seriously saying you are unable to tell the difference between sexual preference and sexual prejudice?

"

Ahh the old "it's not sexist it's preference" argument.

It's still discriminating because of sex, it's just good sexism not bad. The irony comes in because of the 'but I hate sexism of any kind' comment.

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"Sorry if I went into a bit of a rant there, but I hate sexism of any kind - it demeans us all as human beings.

Says the guy who's 'Not looking for single guys'

My Irony-o-Meter went off the scale

Really?... are you seriously saying you are unable to tell the difference between sexual preference and sexual prejudice?

Ahh the old "it's not sexist it's preference" argument.

It's still discriminating because of sex, it's just good sexism not bad. The irony comes in because of the 'but I hate sexism of any kind' comment."

Aah to old "Aah the old... " cliche wheeled out once more to obfuscate a precariously drawn point of view.

So I'll take that as a "no" then - you can't tell the difference between sexual preference and sexual prejudice. That's fine - I hope you don't mind that I can. I can discriminate between the colours red and green - it doesn't necessarily follow that I prefer one over the other. In the same way, whilst we all make judgments based upon our ability to discriminate one item, circumstance or gender from another (often referred to as "experience" or "wisdom"), it doesn't follow that it carries any negative connotation, as sexism does.

My sexual preference is just that... nothing more. It's a personal decision that reflects only upon my view of how I am and what makes me happy - call it freedom of personal choice, if it makes it easier for you.

Sexism, sexual prejudice, misogyny, misandry (or however else it might be labeled) is completely different. It aims to create a negative view of another predicated upon a personal view of their worth or morality based upon an opinion of what the sexist, chauvinist, misandrist, etc. perceives to be a characteristic of that gender (or "that kind of person") regardless of how ill informed or downright hateful they may be. The former concerns me alone and passes no judgment upon another - the latter seeks to shift a noun or impression associated with another into the pejorative.

It's quite simple really - the two are not the same. I can draw you a diagramme if it helps you understand.

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By *litheroevoyeurMan
over a year ago

Clitheroe


"I am absolutely amazed!!!!!1i don't know how to feel how so many guys on here say they are in a relationship with their other half but are on here to find meets without there wives/girlfriends knowing ,how awfull is that !!"

It isn't just guys, lots of women are at it too.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"excuse me im no way to blame for what happens in my life but there are far too many guys cheating pure and simple !!!"
Seriously?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think if you were to tell a friend two things..

1. I'm cheating

2. I'm on a swinging site

They would be more shocked in the later!

There are things everyone does in life that does please all. Perhaps it would be a good idea to not be so judgemental.

We all do things for our own reasons.

If we are open and honest with people on here, what's the problem.

If you are looking for a relationship or a partner tnen a swinging site is the wrong place to look. "

My workmates are shocked by no 1

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