FabSwingers.com forum: Armed forces Day

By *xpres OP Man
over a year ago

Elland

Are you doing anything to suport our boy n girls passed n present??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Other than donate to Help the Hero's no I'm afraid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is just a PR exercise, to make people feel good about themselves. I am ex forces and proud of it, do not need a special day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I support them any day. If i see a serviceman/woman, I offer to shake their hand with a word of thanks. It puts a smile on their face and I feel good.

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By *xpres OP Man
over a year ago

Elland

"It is just a PR exercise, to make people feel good about themselves. I am ex forces and proud of it, do not need a special day

Rx Reme i did 7 years i think your wrong the more people see what a great job our service men n women do the more people will understand how much we are needed n how deep the cuts are going the MOD budget gets cut more n more yet white hall still employs civil servants on much more the craftsman up to brigadier..

Halifax is having a parade n other bits Il be taking my boys

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I have mixed feelings about this day.

Why isn't there a Nurses Day or Firefighters Day?

I'm not sure about the push this year to recruit reservists on the back of redundancies of service personnel and it has a bit of a nasty whiff about it.

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By *himanMan
over a year ago

chichester

Firefighters day lol there always on strike

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have mixed feelings about this day.

Why isn't there a Nurses Day or Firefighters Day?

When they stop complaining about their chosen profession and stop going on strike, maybe they'll get one.

Disclaimer: I have a huge respect for nurses, fire fighters, police officers etc and support them unreservedly, I just have an issue with strikes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't support was so there for can not support the troops.

I wish no harm to come to any of the armed forces ofcourse but they are not the hero's the media likes to brainwash people into beleiving.

They are not hero's but pawns being used in the immoral game of wholesale murder.

If you're aware of the real reasons the west go to war (corporate profits) and the role the armed forces play in making such immoral acts possible the last thing you would label somone in the armed forces is a hero.

There is nothing heroic about blindly following immoral orders for a pay check, especially when those orders involve the unnecessary murder of others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

War.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Google or you tube former SAS soldier Ben Griffin.

now hes a hero for trying to make people aware and see whats going on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone should be supporting Armed Forces Day. It is the one day of the year where it is deemed ok to talk about the plight of many veterans; especially the wounded including PTSD. There are veterans living on the streets and in prisons because they can not cope with what they have seen in theater. These men and woman put their lives on the line for this country and deserve proper respect and support when they can no longer serve for whatever reason. Their families deserve support as well. Unless you have had a loved one deployed in a warzone you will never understand how it feels to jump and knocks on the door, the phone ringing in the night etc.

The average media time to report the death of a British Soldier in Afghanistan is just 23 seconds. Its a disgrace!

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By *olarbear3Man
over a year ago

I'm not doing anything, I am though taking my family to see my great great grandfathers victoria cross on Friday, I've never seen it and my family hasn't seen it for 20 years..where's it's been locked in by vault for that amount of time after being given to a museum in doncaster

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Are you doing anything to suport our boy n girls passed n present??

Didn't know this existed til yesterday

. My son-in-law is ex navy and ex Royal marine and mentioned he and my daughter were off to Portsmouth tomorrow for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't support was so there for can not support the troops.

I wish no harm to come to any of the armed forces ofcourse but they are not the hero's the media likes to brainwash people into beleiving.

They are not hero's but pawns being used in the immoral game of wholesale murder.

There is nothing heroic about blindly following immoral orders for a pay check, especially when those orders involve the unnecessary murder of others.

It is because of our armed forces that you can make comments and have free speech.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't support was so there for can not support the troops.

I wish no harm to come to any of the armed forces ofcourse but they are not the hero's the media likes to brainwash people into beleiving.

They are not hero's but pawns being used in the immoral game of wholesale murder.

There is nothing heroic about blindly following immoral orders for a pay check, especially when those orders involve the unnecessary murder of others.

Ain't you a bright spark

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't support was so there for can not support the troops.

I wish no harm to come to any of the armed forces ofcourse but they are not the hero's the media likes to brainwash people into beleiving.

They are not hero's but pawns being used in the immoral game of wholesale murder.

There is nothing heroic about blindly following immoral orders for a pay check, especially when those orders involve the unnecessary murder of others.

Ain't you a bright spark

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is the a new day or has it been going for a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't support was so there for can not support the troops.

I wish no harm to come to any of the armed forces ofcourse but they are not the hero's the media likes to brainwash people into beleiving.

They are not hero's but pawns being used in the immoral game of wholesale murder.

There is nothing heroic about blindly following immoral orders for a pay check, especially when those orders involve the unnecessary murder of others.

You need an education pal. And I bet you thank that all soldiers do is either fight in Afghan or sit on their arses. British Soldiers are deployed all over the world in a variety of jobs that have sweet FA to do with your pathetic drivel. Hope you never need their services .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't support was so there for can not support the troops.

I wish no harm to come to any of the armed forces ofcourse but they are not the hero's the media likes to brainwash people into beleiving.

They are not hero's but pawns being used in the immoral game of wholesale murder.

There is nothing heroic about blindly following immoral orders for a pay check, especially when those orders involve the unnecessary murder of others.

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is because of our armed forces that you can make comments and have free speech."

Well yes it is, but thousands of ordinary people fought for that too, I think they are so terribly brave but I don't think they should be sent to fight other people's battles, was Iraq even our allies before the war started???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think this Topic polarises opinion but in this world nothing is ever black and white but various shades of grey. My opinion is towards the very dark shade of grey.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is just a PR exercise, to make people feel good about themselves. I am ex forces and proud of it, do not need a special day

Every day of the year we, non services, take our military for granted...

How nice to have one day when we can be reminded that they are out there, doing a job which I wouldn't fancy, and say Thankyou.

(And the same for all the civilian forces)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my personal opinion (awaits visit to naughty step again) people who slag off our Armed Forces are the ones who dont have the bollocks to do the job themselves.

To all the Armed Forces on here past and serving - THANK YOU

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"War."

*UNH*

What is it good for?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"It is just a PR exercise, to make people feel good about themselves. I am ex forces and proud of it, do not need a special day

I believe there is a feeling amongst certain elements of the forces that Forces Day is a bit of a fucking ballache and they would rather be at home with their families than putting on their ones and marching up and down.

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Bradford

"Firefighters day lol there always on strike"

But able to deploy to war zones(as reservists) whilst on strike whilst fully operational soldiers have to stay at home to man the 'Green Goddess' instead of doing the job they're paid for!! (Op Telic )

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Bradford

"In my personal opinion (awaits visit to naughty step again) people who slag off our Armed Forces are the ones who dont have the bollocks to do the job themselves.

To all the Armed Forces on here past and serving - THANK YOU"

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By *ife in furCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Murder full stop, cannon fodder for politicians and bankers, not in my name.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In my personal opinion (awaits visit to naughty step again) people who slag off our Armed Forces are the ones who dont have the bollocks to do the job themselves.

To all the Armed Forces on here past and serving - THANK YOU"

Perhaps some of them are the ones that made an educated decision not to go to war?

Perhaps some of them are the ones that studied hard for other options?

Some of the work our forces do is admirable. But I don't agree with our involvement in killing people in other countries.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In my personal opinion (awaits visit to naughty step again) people who slag off our Armed Forces are the ones who dont have the bollocks to do the job themselves.

To all the Armed Forces on here past and serving - THANK YOU"

Couldn't agree more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There should be recognition for them and also all services across the country that provide us with education, health, safety etc etc.

It's a shame that sometimes we feel we have to compare one against another. They're all inherently different yet with a common cause. ....to look after our countries interests.

I'm ex services. ...what I do now is not important but just as a striking fireman is seen as moaning There are plenty of troops sat in green areas perfectly safe moaning too !

We should all respect and value all our countries servants. There's good and bad in all careers and valuing people usually brings out their best side.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

"I don't support was so there for can not support the troops.

I wish no harm to come to any of the armed forces ofcourse but they are not the hero's the media likes to brainwash people into beleiving.

They are not hero's but pawns being used in the immoral game of wholesale murder.

There is nothing heroic about blindly following immoral orders for a pay check, especially when those orders involve the unnecessary murder of others.

(Apologies to Jack Nicholson for hacking his great monologue about a bit!)

"Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You yap about so called hidden agendas and you curse the Armed Forces. You have that luxury. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand at post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Firefighters day lol there always on strike

All the 'Green Goddess' have gone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll buy a poppy in November to respect the fallen. I'm really not sure what armed forces day is about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Murder full stop, cannon fodder for politicians and bankers, not in my name."

I respect your opinion and on some aspects I cannot argue otherwise but there are many humanitarian roles where the forces have assisted in many ways. Front line combat troops are far and few in the grand scheme of things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't support was so there for can not support the troops.

I wish no harm to come to any of the armed forces ofcourse but they are not the hero's the media likes to brainwash people into beleiving.

They are not hero's but pawns being used in the immoral game of wholesale murder.

There is nothing heroic about blindly following immoral orders for a pay check, especially when those orders involve the unnecessary murder of others.

(Apologies to Jack Nicholson for hacking his great monologue about a bit!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah yes that great soldier Jack Nicholson

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In my personal opinion (awaits visit to naughty step again) people who slag off our Armed Forces are the ones who dont have the bollocks to do the job themselves.

To all the Armed Forces on here past and serving - THANK YOU

Perhaps some of them are the ones that made an educated decision not to go to war?

Perhaps some of them are the ones that studied hard for other options?

Some of the work our forces do is admirable. But I don't agree with our involvement in killing people in other countries."

Do you know how hard it is to get into the Armed Forces these days? Especially at JS level.

Might be helpful if some people read the Terms of Engagement; British Soldiers can only return fire when under direct attack. ie. they do not muder innocent people. And what about our Soldiers getting murdered both in this country and abroad.

Physically having to stop myself typing true feelings now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In my personal opinion (awaits visit to naughty step again) people who slag off our Armed Forces are the ones who dont have the bollocks to do the job themselves.

To all the Armed Forces on here past and serving - THANK YOU"

I wouldnt want to join the forces. I wouldn't want to be an enforcer for the rich elite who desire power and profit.

all this defending our country nonsense.

we are the oppressors.

The moment politicians decide its time for regime change they arm the rebels to cause trouble, get the media to report on it with a one sided view and get the public to support sending in the troops.

gaddaffi for example. In the last ten years he was visiting all western countrys and we visited him.

Pictures of him shaking hands with bush, blair, gordan brown, obama.

12 months before all that trouble in libya started gaddafi made a speech at the UN conference saying he wanted to unite all of africa and move away from the dollar and use african gold for trade.

the rothchilds didn't like the sound of this and armed rebels to stir trouble in libya.

We actually caught gaddafi alive and he should have stood trail but no we had him killed because we couldn't allow him to tell the world the truth.

Anyone that doesn't think war is a buisness go and you tube or google sopex convention.

Every year in jordan all the worlds army generals are invited over to see all the latest weapons that are available.

First thing you see when you arrive at convention is billboards but not with latest cars or movies on them like here but the latest bunker busting missiles.

War is a buisness and its big buisness.

Einstein once said the pioneers for a world without war is for the youth of today to just say no to miltery service.

No solidiers = no wars

The politicians and bankers would be truly fecked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" There should be recognition for them and also all services across the country that provide us with education, health, safety etc etc.

It's a shame that sometimes we feel we have to compare one against another. They're all inherently different yet with a common cause. ....to look after our countries interests.

I'm ex services. ...what I do now is not important but just as a striking fireman is seen as moaning There are plenty of troops sat in green areas perfectly safe moaning too !

We should all respect and value all our countries servants. There's good and bad in all careers and valuing people usually brings out their best side."

many members of my family (self included) are/were in the armed forces/fire service and medical services.

I take my hat off to all those who make my life a safer and easier one irrespective of rank or occupation.

Thank you. xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Great Dictator's Speech by chaplin.

I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be an emperor. That’s not my business. I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone - if possible - Jew, Gentile - black man - white. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each other’s happiness - not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.

Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical. Our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery we need humanity. More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost....

! The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men - cries out for universal brotherhood - for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world - millions of despairing men, women, and little children - victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people.

To those who can hear me, I say - do not despair. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed - the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish. .....

Soldiers! don’t give yourselves to brutes - men who despise you - enslave you - who regiment your lives - tell you what to do - what to think and what to feel! Who drill you - diet you - treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts! You don’t hate! Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural! Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty!

In the 17th Chapter of St Luke it is written: “the Kingdom of God is within man” - not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people have the power - the power to create machines. The power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure.

Then - in the name of democracy - let us use that power - let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world - a decent world that will give men a chance to work - that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfil that promise. They never will!

Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people! Now let us fight to fulfil that promise! Let us fight to free the world - to do away with national barriers - to do away with greed, with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness. Soldiers! in the name of democracy, let us all unite!