FabSwingers.com forum: Alastair Cook

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Should he stay, resign as captain, leave the England team?

Personally think he should resign as captain and stay on in the team his form has been shocking over the last 18 months

I would have broad replace him

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Keep him, he;s lost KP and Trott along with Swann.

Warne should stfu, yeah be could bowl but his batting, fielding wern't that good, he's never been a captain at this level either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why replace him? The other players are no better as captains. If you look at captains through the years, all of them have suffered dips in form due to the captaincy. He deserves the time to rediscover his form and to evolve as a captain. Other players names have been thrown into the mix but would they be any better having played under Alistair for so long? Suspect not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Keep him he is the best man for the job currently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

stick with him for now , largely because there is no real candidate to replace him , it seems whoever does the job has a dip in form . however if the india series is as bad as the sri lanka one then try ian bell .

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Its like a curse though, whoever takes it loose's form

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

Sack him, guttles attack poor choices

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Sack him, guttles attack poor choices "

Elaborate for us please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sack him, guttles attack poor choices "

Name a better attack than the current offerings...........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id like to see him replaced but with who is the problem! There is no one that has the personality to step up to the captaincy!

I like michael clarkes style in your face, changes fields to suit the bowlers strengths an batsmans weaknesses and takes calculated risks to win the game and he will win at all costs! Unfortunately we havent got anyone like that right now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sack him, guttles attack poor choices "

Ha ha you seem quite negative about Englands teams and competitions today.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

Warne should stfu, yeah be could bowl "

just a bit

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Id like to see him replaced but with who is the problem! There is no one that has the personality to step up to the captaincy!

Do you not remember that funny looking field he set only last week.

All he can do is (this week) as his seamers to 'pitch it up' instead of this 'back of a length' bullshit.

Sri Lanka came out, pitch it up and took wickets, thats not Alister's fault

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By *rofaneprofMan
over a year ago

Katy

Keep Cook - he seems to reserve his best for India - and the upcoming test series with India is important after the loss to Sri Lanka. And I say this as a person of Indian origin.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Im off to the ODI in cardiff in Aug, gonna be a great day and a stupid amount of beer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He isn't aggressive as captain, his declarations are too conservative, he doesn't declare until the team can't lose rather than declaring when the team can win, 1st test against Sri Lanka he should of declared just after tea giving his bowlers an hour at the batsmen, instead he gave them a nights rest and left his bowlers to try get them out in a day, that's poor captaincy, he needs to concentrate on his batting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of past England captains have been blighted with the same problem. It seems to be in the nature of the selectors and coaches to install a fear of loss into the sides and that breeds the conservative tactics.

Also, after seeing two test matches, it's plain to see we need a top class spinner and that should be a priority for the county coaches/England selectors.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I don't suppose the coach/management team have anything to do with decisions like that do they?

Its not just down to AC

I agree he could do a better job but then, who couldnt in any walk of life?

However, as mentioned above by many - who else could do it?

Bell - Might wreck him, I dont think he's captained Wark's much but will have plenty of experience.

Prior - He's not nailed down to play and injuries have been plenty recently.

Broad - Best choice, some experience from being a capt.

Andersons - A bowler as captain. Dosent happen much/any experience?

Who have I missed?

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By *rofaneprofMan
over a year ago

Katy

Groom Joe Root - he seems to have a mature approach to the game that belies his age

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"A lot of past England captains have been blighted with the same problem. It seems to be in the nature of the selectors and coaches to install a fear of loss into the sides and that breeds the conservative tactics.

Also, after seeing two test matches, it's plain to see we need a top class spinner and that should be a priority for the county coaches/England selectors."

Has to be a youngster if Moeen can't do it.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Groom Joe Root - he seems to have a mature approach to the game that belies his age"

Make him vice now and look at it next summer, why not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Groom Joe Root - he seems to have a mature approach to the game that belies his age"

He can barely get back to back scores now let alone with the added pressure of captain,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if balance can get a run in the team he's the obvious choice, rock steady doesn't give much away and enjoys a bit of a battle

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By *rofaneprofMan
over a year ago

Katy

"Groom Joe Root - he seems to have a mature approach to the game that belies his age

He can barely get back to back scores now let alone with the added pressure of captain, "

I would not look at short-term trends. He is someone who can flourish over time. Great maturity. Most of the others are well into their prime and won't last more than three to four years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I reckon someone who will bat at 5 or 6. Hopefully there's runs on the board so a bit less pressure to score. And in turn makes captaincy an little easier. It's a hard job when your top order is failing so consistently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Groom Joe Root - he seems to have a mature approach to the game that belies his age

He can barely get back to back scores now let alone with the added pressure of captain,

I would not look at short-term trends. He is someone who can flourish over time. Great maturity. Most of the others are well into their prime and won't last more than three to four years. "

How long term do we want to look? He's been in the team 2 years now, how long do we give someone to find there feet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like his "Letters from America"

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

He should stay in the team but resign the captaincy. He is,at best, an average club captain and nowhere near good enough to be a test captain.

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By *rofaneprofMan
over a year ago

Katy

Wow, you guys are harsh! And I thought Indian and Pakistani fans are the most unforgiving in the world

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

I see KP is getting involved now!

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"He should stay in the team but resign the captaincy. He is,at best, an average club captain and nowhere near good enough to be a test captain."

And hasnt beaten India away or Australia at home

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

"He should stay in the team but resign the captaincy. He is,at best, an average club captain and nowhere near good enough to be a test captain.

And hasnt beaten India away or Australia at home

He has done both of those. His captaincy received criticism during the last home ashes series and deservedly so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lots of people saying he should go but not many suggestions for a new captain.

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Bradford

Replace him with who? Bell doesn't appear to think about the game and Broad hasn't made himself a worthy candidate at T20. Anderson is a thinker of the game and experienced but I don't think he wants to be Captain.

Cricket is one if those games where suddenly form returns out of the blue and Cook is unquestionably the better batsman in the side.

My concern is that he allows games to meander and doesn't try to seize control and makes changes too late. He needs to learn to go through plan a, b, c, and keep going and not show infinite patience with a plan when it clearly isn't working.

Couldn't believe the recent Test Match when it took him so long to resort to Ali and then almost as long to go back to him, even after taking 2 wickets, and he never used Root

. I'm happy to go to my spinners and work them in tandem so why isn't he? If he doesn't trust Ali then why have him in the side?

Just needs to embolden his decisions and sooner. Form will return.

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Bradford

"He should stay in the team but resign the captaincy. He is,at best, an average club captain and nowhere near good enough to be a test captain.

And hasnt beaten India away or Australia at home

He has done both of those. His captaincy received criticism during the last home ashes series and deservedly so.

The first Captain in Donkeys years to win a series in India and it was only last year we beat Australia in England. But it's gone wrong from there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He isn't aggressive as captain, his declarations are too conservative, he doesn't declare until the team can't lose rather than declaring when the team can win, 1st test against Sri Lanka he should of declared just after tea giving his bowlers an hour at the batsmen, instead he gave them a nights rest and left his bowlers to try get them out in a day, that's poor captaincy, he needs to concentrate on his batting"

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

"Replace him with who? Bell doesn't appear to think about the game and Broad hasn't made himself a worthy candidate at T20. Anderson is a thinker of the game and experienced but I don't think he wants to be Captain.

Cricket is one if those games where suddenly form returns out of the blue and Cook is unquestionably the better batsman in the side.

Couldn't believe the recent Test Match when it took him so long to resort to Ali and then almost as long to go back to him, even after taking 2 wickets, and he never used Root

. I'm happy to go to my spinners and work them in tandem so why isn't he? If he doesn't trust Ali then why have him in the side?

Just needs to embolden his decisions and sooner. Form will return. "

I totally agree that he should remain in the side, his form will return but as a captain he is very very poor. He tends to be reactive in the field.

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Bradford

Cricket is one if those games where suddenly form returns out of the blue and Cook is unquestionably the better batsman in the side.

Couldn't believe the recent Test Match when it took him so long to resort to Ali and then almost as long to go back to him, even after taking 2 wickets, and he never used Root

. I'm happy to go to my spinners and work them in tandem so why isn't he? If he doesn't trust Ali then why have him in the side?

Just needs to embolden his decisions and sooner. Form will return.

I totally agree that he should remain in the side, his form will return but as a captain he is very very poor. He tends to be reactive in the field."

I think we need to realise this is a new era for the Test side. No Trott, Swann or KP and lots of young players. No spinner(yet) of high class and a new coach who wasn't given the support previously with the first KP affair and although has done well at Lancs is finding his feet again internationally.

All English Captains of recent years tend to be quite conservative and would seem to rather risk drawing than going for the jugular with the possibility of losing.

The series with India is starting soon so let's hope Cook becomes more assertive and decisive in the field(we're all always learning) and get behind the boys and wait for Cook to find some form and the experienced heads to give the team the right support.

I think if we crumble in this series then the selectors may push him, if he doesn't fall on his own sword first.

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