FabSwingers.com forum: world cup 2014 part 6

By *am123 OP Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

zilch..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?"

Italy have to beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we go through

So come on Italy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And have to beat Costa Rica

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

Italy have to beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we go through

So come on Italy "

and the likely hood of that happening?

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By *ctaviusStuntMan
over a year ago

plymouth

At last an england team that lived up to expectation.

I expected nothing and they delivered nothing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2 more wins for Italy and England beat Costa Rica and it would be down to goal difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?"
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Italy to beat Costa Rica & Uraguay & we have to beat CR by a better goal difference to go through....

If Italy & CR draw we're out 2mrrw

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?"

if italy beat costa rica by 2 tomorrow.... then if england beat costa rica, and italy beat uruguay, england would go thru.....

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

Italy have to beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we go through

So come on Italy "

Now I am seriously confused. How do we lose two games and go through to anything?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

lol....i got it now thanks

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

Italy have to beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we go through

So come on Italy

Now I am seriously confused. How do we lose two games and go through to anything?"

i'm guessing that the other teams would have lost 3?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

if italy beat costa rica by 2 tomorrow.... then if england beat costa rica, and italy beat uruguay, england would go thru....."

how long did it take you to work that out?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where's Minxie ?

I think a chorus of 'it's beginning to look a lot like ...' is in order

Months of build up and then over (anti climatically) in the blink of an eye

Still, at least it boosted the economy a bit whilst it lasted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

Italy have to beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we go through

So come on Italy

Now I am seriously confused. How do we lose two games and go through to anything?"

Because the other teams except

Italy would also loose two games that means goal difference would decide our fate

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Where's Minxie ?

I think a chorus of 'it's beginning to look a lot like ...' is in order

Months of build up and then over (anti climatically) in the blink of an eye

Still, at least it boosted the economy a bit whilst it lasted

See above, the fat lady has yet to sing it would seem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a broken heart

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

instead of a tite pussy england need a tite defence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

Italy have to beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we go through

So come on Italy

Now I am seriously confused. How do we lose two games and go through to anything?"

It's a very very slim chance based on other teams winning & / or cocking up!

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By *am123 OP Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

but do they really deserve too? you have to win games to get on in a world cup not rely on other people its england are just shite to much hype and no product as per

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

if italy beat costa rica by 2 tomorrow.... then if england beat costa rica, and italy beat uruguay, england would go thru.....

how long did it take you to work that out?"

not that long...maths degree....

as long as italy beat costa rica (which they will probably do) then there is hope.... if they beat costa rica by 2 or more, you are then not relying on other teams running up the score and england do have to run it up.... just win

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

A fair result unfortunatly

credit to Suarez though, he took his chances.

Didnt think the ref had a good game and I think it would of been differn't with a strict ref.

However, Englands mistakes were their own doing

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By *am123 OP Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

if italy beat costa rica by 2 tomorrow.... then if england beat costa rica, and italy beat uruguay, england would go thru.....

how long did it take you to work that out?

not that long...maths degree....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"but do they really deserve too? you have to win games to get on in a world cup not rely on other people its england are just shite to much hype and no product as per

Uruguay only have a population of 3.2 million. Can you believe that? And they still produce a team like that. We have 20 times more people to select from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

Italy have to beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we go through

So come on Italy

Now I am seriously confused. How do we lose two games and go through to anything?

It's a very very slim chance based on other teams winning & / or cocking up!"

I'm with you Hun. Hate to ait it but I think our goose is well

And truely cooked... Rooting for Italy now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

england had six liverpool players and none of them predicted or seemed to know how suarez would play and how he playes !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so......mathematically what are our chances of going through now?

Italy have to beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we go through

So come on Italy

Now I am seriously confused. How do we lose two games and go through to anything?

It's a very very slim chance based on other teams winning & / or cocking up!

I'm with you Hun. Hate to ait it but I think our goose is well

And truely cooked... Rooting for Italy now.

Admit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"but do they really deserve too? you have to win games to get on in a world cup not rely on other people its england are just shite to much hype and no product as per

Uruguay only have a population of 3.2 million. Can you believe that? And they still produce a team like that. We have 20 times more people to select from. "

maybe thats Englands problem (or one of them), the paradox of choice

the more options available to choose from the more chance of making the wrong choices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That bloody England team are dog shit, fully deserved to be punished by suarez with a performance like that

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By *am123 OP Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

"but do they really deserve too? you have to win games to get on in a world cup not rely on other people its england are just shite to much hype and no product as per

Uruguay only have a population of 3.2 million. Can you believe that? And they still produce a team like that. We have

20 times more people to select from. "
england players should spend less time selling fking hair products, dorittos and pizzas... and more time practising playing fking football

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"but do they really deserve too? you have to win games to get on in a world cup not rely on other people its england are just shite to much hype and no product as per

Uruguay only have a population of 3.2 million. Can you believe that? And they still produce a team like that. We have

20 times more people to select from. england players should spend less time selling fking hair products, dorittos and pizzas... and more time practising playing fking football

Admit it though, when David Beckham advertised brylcream, you bought it. We all did

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the one saving grace england is that a win by italy tomorrow doesn't quite win them the group or guarentee them the 2nd round...

although the more they beat costa rica by tomorrow, the more players they could rest for the uruguay game without fear of goal difference coming into play.......

I always liked pirlo and super mario!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Overrated big time they talk about world class we have no one that would get in a world eleven thats the truth sooner we realise this the better.

Reality check is needed.

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By *orthenguyMan
over a year ago

co armagh

England r a shit team use should no tht if use no anything about football back to drawing bord for use there always the next world cup

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the one saving grace england is that a win by italy tomorrow doesn't quite win them the group or guarentee them the 2nd round...

although the more they beat costa rica by tomorrow, the more players they could rest for the uruguay game without fear of goal difference coming into play.......

I always liked pirlo and super mario!!!

Yeah but if they draw we're out....!

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By *am123 OP Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

"but do they really deserve too? you have to win games to get on in a world cup not rely on other people its england are just shite to much hype and no product as per

Uruguay only have a population of 3.2 million. Can you believe that? And they still produce a team like that. We have

20 times more people to select from. england players should spend less time selling fking hair products, dorittos and pizzas... and more time practising playing fking football

Admit it though, when David Beckham advertised brylcream, you bought it. We all did "
im eating pizza and washing my hair as i speak

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"england had six liverpool players and none of them predicted or seemed to know how suarez would play and how he playes !"

Knowing how he plays is one thing stopping him is another. Even at 60% he was miles ahead of our defence.

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By *ackandkateCouple
over a year ago

Truro

We should have put him into the crowd first chance we got.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"but do they really deserve too? you have to win games to get on in a world cup not rely on other people its england are just shite to much hype and no product as per

Whether we scrape through or not, having lost 2 out of 2 it is just delaying the inevitable.

All the bullshit on here about 'positives' after the Italy game, results get you through. Nothing more, nothing less. And as ever England failed to come even close to troubling the later stages of a tournament.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That bloody England team are dog shit, fully deserved to be punished by suarez with a performance like that

Great season for Gerrard though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That bloody England team are dog shit, fully deserved to be punished by suarez with a performance like that

Great season for Gerrard though!

Cant complain gerrard setting him up, I would like to see England go a bit further then get knocked out, but not this early

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Better than loosing on penalties?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"england had six liverpool players and none of them predicted or seemed to know how suarez would play and how he playes !"

the whole world knows how he plays..

the difference is in stopping him..

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By *aulatv_ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Rhyl

Can someone tell me why the England players get payed so much after such a performance. One interesting fact mentioned during the match was Uruguay has a population equal to 1/3 that of London. They can find a decent team why can't we.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts"

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

2 shots on target thats all

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By *ackandkateCouple
over a year ago

Truro

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts"

Didn't know it was a singing contest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"england had six liverpool players and none of them predicted or seemed to know how suarez would play and how he playes !"

That's how unpredictable he is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can someone tell me why the England players get payed so much after such a performance. One interesting fact mentioned during the match was Uruguay has a population equal to 1/3 that of London. They can find a decent team why can't we."

The players don't get paid for playing for the National team.

Most countries have less people to pick from Holland's population is a 1/3 of the size of England we are just shite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always thought Gerrard was a cunt , and after the way he set up Suarez for the winner , it has to be official !

He has now single handedly lost Liverpool the title and got England off to the worst start ever in the World Cup ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Always thought Gerrard was a cunt , and after the way he set up Suarez for the winner , it has to be official !

He has now single handedly lost Liverpool the title and got England off to the worst start ever in the World Cup ....

That's bollocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes they are paid by their clubs not country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Always thought Gerrard was a cunt , and after the way he set up Suarez for the winner , it has to be official !

He has now single handedly lost Liverpool the title and got England off to the worst start ever in the World Cup ....

guessing you didn't watch the game then?

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

Good game....best team won in the end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alan Shearer kept me interested

(Her)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!"

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Always thought Gerrard was a cunt , and after the way he set up Suarez for the winner , it has to be official !

He has now single handedly lost Liverpool the title and got England off to the worst start ever in the World Cup ....

That's bollocks

Which part ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Always thought Gerrard was a cunt , and after the way he set up Suarez for the winner , it has to be official !

He has now single handedly lost Liverpool the title and got England off to the worst start ever in the World Cup ....

guessing you didn't watch the game then?"

Regrettably I did

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Always thought Gerrard was a cunt , and after the way he set up Suarez for the winner , it has to be official !

He has now single handedly lost Liverpool the title and got England off to the worst start ever in the World Cup ....

twaddle..

one guy doesn't win 2 games and the same guy doesn't lose 2 games..

you appear to have overlooked the defence and other factors but why let that get in the way of your football expertise eh..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One guy , who incidentally is also the captain of both teams in the aforesaid games , was shite throughout .

His slip cost Liverpool the title , and his header into the path of Suarez cost England tonight .

My football expertise , as you so succinctly put it , doesn't need to be that good to recognise a player who has past his best before date

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The amount of people who chat complete fucking unadulterated bollocks when England lose is insane. I'm a passionate England fan and I'm hurting from this but that doesn't mean you have to go into full talk shit mode.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The amount of people who chat complete fucking unadulterated bollocks when England lose is insane. I'm a passionate England fan and I'm hurting from this but that doesn't mean you have to go into full talk shit mode. "

And your point is ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride"

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That bloody England team are dog shit, fully deserved to be punished by suarez with a performance like that

Great season for Gerrard though!

Especially as Cahill and Jags were at fault for the 2nd goal. Only a Chelsea fan could lay the blame for that goal on Gerrard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem."

Explain Spain's past success?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That bloody England team are dog shit, fully deserved to be punished by suarez with a performance like that

Great season for Gerrard though!

Especially as Cahill and Jags were at fault for the 2nd goal. Only a Chelsea fan could lay the blame for that goal on Gerrard"

Well I am not a Chelsea fan .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem."

Its very true indeed, least you agree

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

Terrible when they need to rely on another team to help them advance. Just goes to show they are not good enough. At the end of the day it's a game, teams win, teams loose...end off

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem."

Where were you guys the other day when the national anthem thread was going???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One guy , who incidentally is also the captain of both teams in the aforesaid games , was shite throughout .

His slip cost Liverpool the title , and his header into the path of Suarez cost England tonight .

My football expertise , as you so succinctly put it , doesn't need to be that good to recognise a player who has past his best before date

Does your football expertise also tell you that our 2 centre backs where at fault for both goals....Jagielka letting Suarez run off him, and the second goal? why did Jageilka run towards Gerrard when clearly Gerrard was going for the header, he should have stayed back but he never....Gerrard has been Englands stand out player for last few years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One guy , who incidentally is also the captain of both teams in the aforesaid games , was shite throughout .

His slip cost Liverpool the title , and his header into the path of Suarez cost England tonight .

My football expertise , as you so succinctly put it , doesn't need to be that good to recognise a player who has past his best before date

Excepting that you overlook several things.

First, Uruguay's 2nd goal was scored through the brilliance of Suarez and the inability of Cahill and Jags to cover the back as centre halves should have been doing in that situation. To blame Gerrard for a ball glancing of his head 50 plus yards from goal and when he wasn't the last man in defence is rediculous in the extreme.

Secondly to lay LFC's loss of the title on one slip in a tight game is equally rediculous and has been done to death at the end of the season. Liverpool lost the title because when compared to Man City, City had a better overall defence throughout the season which has been established over several years and with many millions of pounds, Liverpool were at season one of there attempt to regain the title with considerably less resources to call upon.

As for Gerrard being past his best, debateable at the very least, personally I hope he retires from international football and concentrates his effort at LFC where no doubt he will continue to be a success. With 13 goals and 13 assists last season Gerrard did more then most to help LFC achieve a very notable 2nd place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That bloody England team are dog shit, fully deserved to be punished by suarez with a performance like that

Great season for Gerrard though!

Especially as Cahill and Jags were at fault for the 2nd goal. Only a Chelsea fan could lay the blame for that goal on Gerrard

Well I am not a Chelsea fan ....."

Which is why the point was aimed at Gentleman Ben whom is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clearly I have missed something , and stand corrected .

Gerrard is obviously a great captain , and has led us to a position we should be rightly proud of . His performance was impeccable , and the chances he created and near misses he had tonight showed his class .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That bloody England team are dog shit, fully deserved to be punished by suarez with a performance like that

Great season for Gerrard though!

Especially as Cahill and Jags were at fault for the 2nd goal. Only a Chelsea fan could lay the blame for that goal on Gerrard

Well I am not a Chelsea fan .....

Which is why the point was aimed at Gentleman Ben whom is."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And your point is ?

That people don't need to talk shit just because they're disappointed that we're pretty much out. Thought that was pretty obvious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plus I agree with you, Gerrard has had a dire couple of matches, he was a joke tonight and I'm not even including his mistimed header in that assessment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And your point is ?

That people don't need to talk shit just because they're disappointed that we're pretty much out. Thought that was pretty obvious.

My apologies if what I wrote was shit ... Yes we are dissappointed , but let me assure you , when you have suffered as much disappointment in the national team as I have , you will vent your frustration too !

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Can't fault the England supporters and the fans, but there is serious lack of passion being shown from the players?

It was a toothless performance tonight....3 Lions my arse, more like 3 kittens in that game!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was pure shite I've seen more passion in a bit of a kick about

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"It was pure shite I've seen more passion in a bit of a kick about "

True and what annoys me is when they show England training on the news, etc they are always running around effin cones and shadow dancing with dummies?????

WTF who is coaching our team for fooks sake get the strikers to do some hardcore shooting practice (god knows they need it), and teach the defenders how to close down opposition players quicker!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tried to start a new thread anyway just curious before the tabloids start should Hodgson stay or go ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because there are far far too many overseas players here am not saying some do not bring quality but if we are serious about having a decent national team then this has to be drastically reduced as no doubt talent is there but its stifled by lack of opportunity as clubs go for foreigners as quick fix instead of develooing english players.

This is harsh reality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem.

Where were you guys the other day when the national anthem thread was going???

In the wrong place, obviously.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

how are we doing in the cricket

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

"It was pure shite I've seen more passion in a bit of a kick about

True and what annoys me is when they show England training on the news, etc they are always running around effin cones and shadow dancing with dummies?????

WTF who is coaching our team for fooks sake get the strikers to do some hardcore shooting practice (god knows they need it), and teach the defenders how to close down opposition players quicker!"

More shooting practice, and no cones!!

Where have you been since 1966?....such radical coaching analysis..such left field thinking...obviously Greg Duke needs to head hunt you from your present employment...your remedies are so elegant yet so simple..genius!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And your point is ?

That people don't need to talk shit just because they're disappointed that we're pretty much out. Thought that was pretty obvious.

People were talking 'shit' after the first match with all the crap about playing well and plenty of positives and ignoring the fact they lost. I read crap like on their day england can apparently match any team in the world - seriously?

The reality is that internationally England are now only slightly less irrelevant than the other home countries.

So what should people be saying?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is harsh reality."

And the FA will do fuck all to change that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well off to asda to see if they've got any Dutch Flags left

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

This is harsh reality.

And the FA will do fuck all to change that. "

The foreign player argument obviously has merit..but it can't be the only one.

From 1966 to the introduction of the Premiership and the first significant influx of foreign players we failed in the WC or European champions.that's thirty years of failure...so the problem isn't new

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem."

Great point and it's given me an idea...we get Gareth Malone to take a pub football team..any will do...coach them to sing the national anthem with pride and passion in time for the Euros qualifiers..job done!

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over a year ago

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem.

I didn't say proudly I just said they ALL sang ~ anyway lets not start the pros / cons of the singing the national anthem again lol

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem.

I didn't say proudly I just said they ALL sang ~ anyway lets not start the pros / cons of the singing the national anthem again lol

Was referring to the first post attached to your post..

Oh let's keep going on the anthem argument..it stops us confronting the real reasons for our continuing failure..lol

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"My apologies if what I wrote was shit ... Yes we are dissappointed , but let me assure you , when you have suffered as much disappointment in the national team as I have , you will vent your frustration too !"

several players over the 2 games made mistakes, at any level of sport people do so..

the whole performance in comparison to that shown against Italy was very poor..

strangely enough your not the only supporter who over the years has been frustrated at the national team, the issues why are many and in some ways a 'wider debate'..

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over a year ago

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By *athylacyTV/TS
over a year ago

Maidstone

Anyone want to buy some England flags - hardly used...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tank Got I'm half German, ve alvays du vell in kompetitions!

(tongue in cheek)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem.

I didn't say proudly I just said they ALL sang ~ anyway lets not start the pros / cons of the singing the national anthem again lol

Was referring to the first post attached to your post..

Oh let's keep going on the anthem argument..it stops us confronting the real reasons for our continuing failure..lol"

Oh i know you were I was referring to the post attached to mine too.

I blame @ dirtylurkers hamster ~ predicting a 2-2 draw...!!

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem.

I didn't say proudly I just said they ALL sang ~ anyway lets not start the pros / cons of the singing the national anthem again lol

Was referring to the first post attached to your post..

Oh let's keep going on the anthem argument..it stops us confronting the real reasons for our continuing failure..lol

Oh i know you were I was referring to the post attached to mine too.

I blame @ dirtylurkers hamster ~ predicting a 2-2 draw...!!"

Anything that sees merit in a tread wheel is not to be trusted!

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

Looking slim chance for England, lost 2 of there games.

So much for commentators/pundits predicting how far England would get, eating there words now.

It's the pundits etc that piss me off most, they do this EVERY world cup.

Nothing against the players/team, but I hope England get knocked out, just to hear what crap excuse commentators will come up with.

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

A lot of people, me included, didn't think we'd get out of the "group of death".

I wasn't expecting much, but I'm still disappointed

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"It was pure shite I've seen more passion in a bit of a kick about

True and what annoys me is when they show England training on the news, etc they are always running around effin cones and shadow dancing with dummies?????

WTF who is coaching our team for fooks sake get the strikers to do some hardcore shooting practice (god knows they need it), and teach the defenders how to close down opposition players quicker!

More shooting practice, and no cones!!

When all else fails go back to basics. Our players look like they could'nt hit a barn door from 10 paces away?

Look at how Chile played against Spain the other night, with passion and fire in their bellies, closing down Spannish players quick and not giving them any time on the ball. Our players are the complete opposite, no passion, no fire in the belly and stroll around like its a kick about in the local park on a sunday afternoon. At least go out fighting like the aussies did, the fans would'nt complain then but that was piss poor last night from England.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

"Looking slim chance for England, lost 2 of there games.

So much for commentators/pundits predicting how far England would get, eating there words now.

It's the pundits etc that piss me off most, they do this EVERY world cup.

Nothing against the players/team, but I hope England get knocked out, just to hear what crap excuse commentators will come up with."

Most pundits I heard were playing our chances down. This is the first tournament I can remember where expectations were low - quarter finals at best, not getting out of the group at worst.

And all this talk of 'passion' makes me laugh - don't people think the players wanted to do well ? Encouraging performance against Italy, back to normal against Uruguay, plane home on Tuesday unless results go our way.

Same old same old.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"They couldn't even sing the national anthem proudly, shower of cunts

to be fair they all sang the anthem tonight...!!

Proudly???? I very much doubt it Hart was the only one sang it with pride, your chest should be ready to explode when you sing the national anthem with pride

I agree wholeheartedly! You can tell a lot by how the team sings their country's anthem.

I didn't say proudly I just said they ALL sang ~ anyway lets not start the pros / cons of the singing the national anthem again lol

Was referring to the first post attached to your post..

Oh let's keep going on the anthem argument..it stops us confronting the real reasons for our continuing failure..lol

Oh i know you were I was referring to the post attached to mine too.

I blame @ dirtylurkers hamster ~ predicting a 2-2 draw...!!"

She's colour blind apparently - Sorry everybody I didnt know this before.

She doesnt like her tread wheel much, but then I did oil it to stop it squeaking (the wheel)

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Tried to start a new thread anyway just curious before the tabloids start should Hodgson stay or go ?"

When Capello left, the fans favourite for the England manager job was Harry Redknapp. Fans were crying out for Harry Redknapp but the FA chose to ignore the fans again and appointed Roy Hodgson?

The FA know sweet FA it seems, they did it in the past when everyone wanted Brian Clough but again the FA ignored the fans wishes in 1977 when they appointed Ron Greenwood and when that was a failure they interviewed Clough again in 1982 but gave the job to Bobby Robson instead.

I was one of those fans who would liked to have seen Harry Redknapp get the England manager job, but the FA seem more interested in public image rather than who is the best man for the job.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Trev Brooking stepping down will have a massive effect on the futures stars I think, you'll do well to replace him.

It dosent matter who is in charge for England, if defenders still leave the guy at the back post unmarked, school boy flick on's in midfield and hitting the bar from 2 feet out.

Im suprised the ref isn't being shot down, I thought he did no favours for England last night. Uragay could of been down to 10 men and conceeded a penalty quite easily.

What always helps is playing the correct players in the correct posistions.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Always thought Gerrard was a cunt , and after the way he set up Suarez for the winner , it has to be official !

He has now single handedly lost Liverpool the title and got England off to the worst start ever in the World Cup ....

Im not going to copy and paste every bitter post but do us a favour.

The most loyal english player ever?

It was a simple mistake, his passing was poor, but he couldnt of tried any harder.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

The most loyal english player ever?

Say what now ?

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Gerrard.

A one club man, still playing for England (altough he will call it a day soon).

he gets paid well by Liverpool but stuck with them when he had bigger offers.

Theres a lot to be said for it

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over a year ago

Cardiff

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

"Gerrard.

A one club man, still playing for England (altough he will call it a day soon).

he gets paid well by Liverpool but stuck with them when he had bigger offers.

Theres a lot to be said for it"

So loyal to Liverpool then. Although he had agreed a move to Chelsea in 2005/6 until his family got threatened by scouse gangsters. That's not hearsay btw, I know it to be true.

I don't question his passion playing for England at all.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Gerrard.

A one club man, still playing for England (altough he will call it a day soon).

he gets paid well by Liverpool but stuck with them when he had bigger offers.

Theres a lot to be said for it

So loyal to Liverpool then. Although he had agreed a move to Chelsea in 2005/6 until his family got threatened by scouse gangsters. That's not hearsay btw, I know it to be true.

I don't question his passion playing for England at all. "

Was that to do with his Mrs and a gang member?

Loyal to both England and Liverpool I think, a role model if you like.

Im outside of the bubble so to speak being Welsh, yes I will support England and any of the home nations if they aint playing us but Im slightly suprised with all the negativity.

I grew up nr you watching 'us' as it was being done on penalties, dodgy handballs, wonder goals, it will hurt.

The players will hurt too, spare a thought for the fans that travelled.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

Was that to do with his Mrs and a gang member?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blame Gerrard

Blame Rooney

Blame Beckham

Blame Graham Taylor

Blame Hodgson

The list in endless the truth is the national team are crap because we have thought for too long we are England we can just turn up and have a go.

Here are a few reasons the national team fail.

Lots of players are millionaires before they have done anything in the game. A player at Chelsea is on £20k a week and he has not made his debut in the first team yet.

The premier league are not under the control of the FA. They are going to look after their own interest's which is selling games to countries all over the world. Not how good the National team are.

The coaching systems in the country are behind most other European nations. Only the elite kids receive the best.

Most importantly England players in the past have come out and said they put playing for their club before country.

Carragher and Scholes being examples.

The whole system needs overhauling.

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

Also what about when the pundits/commentators bang on about "1966" for like the billionth time.

Goodness sake, SHUT UP! about 19-f*cking-66, nearly 50 years ago.

this is why I ain't a fan of commentators etc during world cup's.

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By *hechairman18Man
over a year ago

Salford Quays , Manchester

England went with a squad of players, but did they have a team?

The team should have been more or decided on 3-4 months ago, to allow them to gel.

Why take Roony and play him out of position?

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

"Tried to start a new thread anyway just curious before the tabloids start should Hodgson stay or go ?

When Capello left, the fans favourite for the England manager job was Harry Redknapp. Fans were crying out for Harry Redknapp but the FA chose to ignore the fans again and appointed Roy Hodgson?

I was one of those fans who would liked to have seen Harry Redknapp get the England manager job, but the FA seem more interested in public image rather than who is the best man for the job."

Centaur I find myself agreeing with you!!...I must stay out of the sun.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Tried to start a new thread anyway just curious before the tabloids start should Hodgson stay or go ?

When Capello left, the fans favourite for the England manager job was Harry Redknapp. Fans were crying out for Harry Redknapp but the FA chose to ignore the fans again and appointed Roy Hodgson?

I was one of those fans who would liked to have seen Harry Redknapp get the England manager job, but the FA seem more interested in public image rather than who is the best man for the job.

Centaur I find myself agreeing with you!!...I must stay out of the sun."

Its time for squeeky clean goody two shoes Hodgson to go. Could'nt give two fucks if Redknapp was involved in a court case, let cheeky chappy, dodgy wheeler dealer Redknapp have the job.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Im out tonight until the Honduras vs Ecudor match, it'll be a good fight this one. Knee high horizontal tackles from 8 ft away and a few shoves in the chest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Greece fucked me last night

Tonight...

Italy

France

Ecuador

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Greece fucked me last night

Tonight...

Italy

France

Ecuador

Hmm I suspect Switzerland may well give France a good game. I think they may edge it. 2.1 Switzerland.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Come on Italy!!!!

Ps Hodgson should stay.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Italian anthem is a good one

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

COME ON ITALY !!!!!!!!!!

Make us English proud

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gerrard is a good chap and he was a great player but he is too old now and he is unfortunately a liability. England have been a bit unlucky in several ways but this is one competition they were never going to win. Maybe next time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Gerrard is a good chap and he was a great player but he is too old now and he is unfortunately a liability. England have been a bit unlucky in several ways but this is one competition they were never going to win. Maybe next time. "

Luck has nothing to do with it people say Gerrard is to old. Pirlo is older but I do agree winning it was never on the cards.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

As I mentioned much higher, being outside of the English bubble I though the ref could of sent one of The Uruguayians off and awarded England a penalty. Now my word isnt final but Seedorf said the same thing half hour ago so their must be something in it if both experts say the same thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree think we have been a bit unlucky with decisions in both games,but we haven't played amazingly well.No one or two players are to blame it just hasn't worked out.But while there is a small glimmer of hope I will keep believing!!!

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

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"COME ON ITALY !!!!!!!!!!

Make us English proud

Go Italy! Not sure it will make you lot proud but as long as there is beer flowing I'm sure you wiLl all be allright!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

all England football merchandise are half price inn Sainsburys already lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know we want Italy to win but good on Croatia scoring!! Considering they should have got a penalty a few mins before.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Bugger.

Robbie Savage is getting a tad excited lol

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"I know we want Italy to win but good on Croatia scoring!! Considering they should have got a penalty a few mins before."

Bloody 'ell, are Italy playing 2 games at once??

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"I know we want Italy to win but good on Croatia scoring!! Considering they should have got a penalty a few mins before."
Who the feck are Croatia playing then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know we want Italy to win but good on Croatia scoring!! Considering they should have got a penalty a few mins before.Who the feck are Croatia playing then?

Costa Rica I mean

. That's because of talking about Holidays doh

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Bugger.

Robbie Savage is getting a tad excited lol"
It was a penalty though...hes passionate.

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over a year ago

"I know we want Italy to win but good on Croatia scoring!! Considering they should have got a penalty a few mins before.

Bloody 'ell, are Italy playing 2 games at once??

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Bugger.

Robbie Savage is getting a tad excited lolIt was a penalty though...hes passionate.

Ahh but did he sing his national anthem though??

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"I know we want Italy to win but good on Croatia scoring!! Considering they should have got a penalty a few mins before.

Bloody 'ell, are Italy playing 2 games at once??

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Bugger.

Robbie Savage is getting a tad excited lolIt was a penalty though...hes passionate.

Ahh but did he sing his national anthem though??"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kudos to Costa Rica. They are doing what England couldn't do. There are more goals in this game though...both defences are vulnerable.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Kudos to Costa Rica. They are doing what England couldn't do. There are more goals in this game though...both defences are vulnerable. "
Yeah, they turned into Croatia on QOT's television

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By *rsFine-MrBallsCouple
over a year ago

markinch

"As I mentioned much higher, being outside of the English bubble I though the ref could of sent one of The Uruguayians off and awarded England a penalty. Now my word isnt final but Seedorf said the same thing half hour ago so their must be something in it if both experts say the same thing."

Keeping dreaming wont change it lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kudos to Costa Rica. They are doing what England couldn't do. There are more goals in this game though...both defences are vulnerable. Yeah, they turned into Croatia on QOT's television

Shush

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sup, uk destroyed cos of costa rica lol.

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

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Who th F*ck is Robbie Savage??

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Who th F*ck is Robbie Savage??"
Ex footie player, now a pundit.

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis

"Who th F*ck is Robbie Savage??Ex footie player, now a pundit."

Thank you...Is he important for the England squad?

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Who th F*ck is Robbie Savage??Ex footie player, now a pundit.

Thank you...Is he important for the England squad?"
No, he played for Wales.

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis

Is it over??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it over??"

well done Costa Rica

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By *ingerpopMan
over a year ago

grimsby

its over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Au revoir anglettere

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are going home . Where going . Where going. Footballs going home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call the travel agents for the flights home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it over??"

For England yes, all over ~ we needed Italy to beat Costa Rica to have any kind of chance

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

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"Is it over??

For England yes, all over ~ we needed Italy to beat Costa Rica to have any kind of chance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh well look on the bright side - the current World & European champions lost both games, so no disgrace in an un seeded little footballing nation not making it......

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know some won't take kindly to this comment but i'm afraid to say it was over from day one! England never stood a chance of getting anywhere in this competition!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

At least Liz doesn't have to snog Balotelli

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Who th F*ck is Robbie Savage??Ex footie player, now a pundit.

Thank you...Is he important for the England squad?No, he played for Wales.

And was The Rams captain before he retired

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Costa Rica showed more heart , grit and determination .

Well deserved and back to the drawing board for England .

Will we ever accept we are not as good as we think we are ?

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

robbie savage is the bloke who accurately predicted that england wouldn't make it out of the group ..... probably the most realistic comments out of any of the pundits to fair

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By *ackandkateCouple
over a year ago

Truro

"robbie savage is the bloke who accurately predicted that england wouldn't make it out of the group ..... probably the most realistic comments out of any of the pundits to fair

he's a clever bastard ain't he?

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"he's a clever bastard ain't he?"

nope .... he's thick as a brick .... which don't say much for the other pundits tho does it lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Where's Minxie ?

I think a chorus of 'it's beginning to look a lot like ...' is in order

Months of build up and then over (anti climatically) in the blink of an eye

Still, at least it boosted the economy a bit whilst it lasted

See above, the fat lady has yet to sing it would seem.

Can I call Minxie in now ?

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By *ackandkateCouple
over a year ago

Truro

Plenty of pundits have rubbished our chances this year.

To be honest, I really thought we'd do better.

I don't think we could have played any better because our players are over hyped, over paid and second class on the world stage.

We've beaten a lot of countries in friendlies over the last 4yrs but when it comes down to the nitty gritty of top competition, we're really pretty shite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We need a new manager to take uk to the next level

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By *rank_SimoneCouple
over a year ago

Bideford

Better make the most of this weather as there is a shower of shit heading this way next week from Brazil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Costa Rica showed more heart , grit and determination .

Well deserved and back to the drawing board for England .

Will we ever accept we are not as good as we think we are ?

to be honest probably not, i expect the media to build England up to being superstars again next time round and when slate them when they dont win.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good game so far, swi 0 - fra 3.

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis

Allez les Bleus, Allez les Bleus

So far, so good but there is another 45mins to play!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Allez les Bleus, Allez les Bleus

So far, so good but there is another 45mins to play!"

They're playing well Bambi

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