FabSwingers.com forum: national anthems

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Morning all ive just been watching some of the world cup ( boring ) and ive watched england v Italy ! Can someone explain why players dont sing there national anthem ? In rugby the players belt out the anthems with pride !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personal choice

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Maybe they don't know the words

Although I have to say its a bug bear of mine. If you have been chosen to represent your country at an international event then they should have the respect to sing the national anthem

To me it strikes me was they feel they were entitled to be there so they dont have to sing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've hit the nail with your closing words..........

It's the pride in rugby players that is missing in the footballers. Either that or they're scared that their awful singing will be heard on the telly.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Oh god, another Football vs Rugby thread.

Have a look at Brazil singing theirs last night.

Have a look at Scotland singing Flower of Scotland at Hamden park.

Ive never seen an English footballer belt out an anthem, maybe thats the problem.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It just annoys me ! If I represented my country in any sport id sing my heart out but it will never happen !

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I like the welsh anthem as well when everyone sings it !

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I probably have seen an English Footballer belting it out, I just cant remember an example off the top of my head

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they don't know it, I just hum along then pelt out " GOD SAVE THE QUEEN"

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I like the welsh anthem as well when everyone sings it !"

Maybe the problem is ours is a bit.....dirgey???? Scotland, Wales and Ireland have better tunes to theirs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I probably have seen an English Footballer belting it out, I just cant remember an example off the top of my head"

Stuart Pearce did

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With rugby you'll find they sing it more to get their adrenaline up as they're going to be putting their bodies through punishment for the next 80 minutes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't see it as an issue either way

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"With rugby you'll find they sing it more to get their adrenaline up as they're going to be putting their bodies through punishment for the next 80 minutes"

Where as footballers just faff about for 90 minutes? Why don't they need the same boost of adrenaline to get them pumped for the game?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like the welsh anthem as well when everyone sings it !

Maybe the problem is ours is a bit.....dirgey???? Scotland, Wales and Ireland have better tunes to theirs

Oh I disagree I think our anthem is very strong & patriotic sounding ~ they only other one I think comes close is the USA's.

But totally agree ~ you represent the country, learn the bloody words & SING!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because they have little pride playing for country in addition no one should get paid a penny for representing their country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they're all republicans.

And on a side note, our anthem is awful. We should do like Billy Connolly said and adopt the theme tune from The Archers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With rugby you'll find they sing it more to get their adrenaline up as they're going to be putting their bodies through punishment for the next 80 minutes

Where as footballers just faff about for 90 minutes? Why don't they need the same boost of adrenaline to get them pumped for the game?"

Different strokes for different...sports. They have their different pre-match rituals.

I find New Zealand doing the haka cringeworthy to watch as it's mostly a bunch of white guys but you can't deny it's effectiveness in getting the blood flowing.

Plus our anthem is a bit shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Because they have little pride playing for country in addition no one should get paid a penny for representing their country.

They don't. The England team donate all their appearance money to charity.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Morning all ive just been watching some of the world cup ( boring ) and ive watched england v Italy ! Can someone explain why players dont sing there national anthem ? In rugby the players belt out the anthems with pride !!!"

Rugby is a thuggish game played by gentlemen, and gentlemen take pride in their country and show it.

Soccer is a game for gentlemen played by thugs, thugs are thugs...

Need I say more?

Hard hat on...

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Take cover!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Besides, I really don't think having pride or being patriotic comes down to whether or not you sing a dour anthem for 30 seconds. It's a bit daft

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

What a load of bollox

i dont give a flying fuck if they sing or not. Aslong as they play with pride determination and without fear its not about how they sing its how they play... Hold on this amazing rugby team have won how many on this current tour of New Zealand...ooo looks like singing loud realy works

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Besides, I really don't think having pride or being patriotic comes down to whether or not you sing a dour anthem for 30 seconds. It's a bit daft

Its about perception though isn't it. To me, being proud to represent your country means singing the national anthem at the start if the game, or when picking up your medal etc. Not singing, to me, shows that its just another day in your life, nothing special and that they are entitled not to sing because they are entyityled to be there. The ego has taken over kind of thing.

It makes me laugh that football fans are some of the most vpatriotic people, with flags flying from every window, car, oriface, yet suggest that 11 men should sing their country's national anthem and no one gives a shit lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Because they have little pride playing for country in addition no one should get paid a penny for representing their country.

They don't. The England team donate all their appearance money to charity."

You are correct to a point only a handful have actually donated the fee to charity fact is they should not get a fee full stop.

You are incorrect

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Im going to represent my country in a few years and cant wait. I wont sing our anthem, Im very passionate about being Welsh, I'll be concentrating on the game.

Im glad others have said it before me but I think the English anthem needs changing now and a more modern version brought out where its not just about one person.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"What a load of bollox

I believe they have won a world cup in more recent years and got to at least the semi final, if not the final since...how far have the football team got since 1966??

Like I said, to me not singing shows an arrogance I don't like to see in a national team.

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

"Because they have little pride playing for country in addition no one should get paid a penny for representing their country.

what a load of total BOLLOX professional sportsmen n women deserve the fee its their job.

are you trying to say you would work without a wage.. I hope your a plumber coz i need one but i wont pay because you dint sing the national anthem before you started...

ofcorse they are proud to play for England but some need their quiet time before kick off...

infact remove Daley Thompsons Olympic gold medal NOW because he whistled it..

sorry Daley its the tower for you

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"What a load of bollox

I believe they have won a world cup in more recent years and got to at least the semi final, if not the final since...how far have the football team got since 1966??

Like I said, to me not singing shows an arrogance I don't like to see in a national team. "

Is that down to singing or coaching?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"What a load of bollox

I believe they have won a world cup in more recent years and got to at least the semi final, if not the final since...how far have the football team got since 1966??

Like I said, to me not singing shows an arrogance I don't like to see in a national team.

Is that down to singing or coaching?"

Performce...coaching

Pride.... Singing

I've not once said that singing improves performance, just that it shows pride and respect which are important attributes to me.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"What a load of bollox

I believe they have won a world cup in more recent years and got to at least the semi final, if not the final since...how far have the football team got since 1966??

Like I said, to me not singing shows an arrogance I don't like to see in a national team.

Is that down to singing or coaching?

Performce...coaching

Pride.... Singing

I've not once said that singing improves performance, just that it shows pride and respect which are important attributes to me. "

You confused me by mentioning the recent world cup win/loss and semi final appearance.

I watched USA's manager (a german) move his mouth when their anthem was played the other night. Wasnt even an attempt of singing it.

I wouldnt sing it either.

Id happily transform your whole country's outlook on the game and make you a success (I hope), Id be extremely passionate about my job and your country but I wouldnt sing your anthem.

He only moved his lips because the camera was in his face I imagine.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"What a load of bollox

I believe they have won a world cup in more recent years and got to at least the semi final, if not the final since...how far have the football team got since 1966??

Like I said, to me not singing shows an arrogance I don't like to see in a national team.

Is that down to singing or coaching?

Performce...coaching

Pride.... Singing

I've not once said that singing improves performance, just that it shows pride and respect which are important attributes to me.

You confused me by mentioning the recent world cup win/loss and semi final appearance.

I watched USA's manager (a german) move his mouth when their anthem was played the other night. Wasnt even an attempt of singing it.

I wouldnt sing it either.

Id happily transform your whole country's outlook on the game and make you a success (I hope), Id be extremely passionate about my job and your country but I wouldnt sing your anthem.

He only moved his lips because the camera was in his face I imagine."

That was just in response to the poster I quoted mentioning the recent losses down under....pride thing again, had to mention our wins lol

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By *iftygreyshadesMan
over a year ago

Aberaeron

Welsh national anthem the best in the world.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"What a load of bollox

I believe they have won a world cup in more recent years and got to at least the semi final, if not the final since...how far have the football team got since 1966??

Like I said, to me not singing shows an arrogance I don't like to see in a national team.

Is that down to singing or coaching?

Performce...coaching

Pride.... Singing

I've not once said that singing improves performance, just that it shows pride and respect which are important attributes to me.

You confused me by mentioning the recent world cup win/loss and semi final appearance.

I watched USA's manager (a german) move his mouth when their anthem was played the other night. Wasnt even an attempt of singing it.

I wouldnt sing it either.

Id happily transform your whole country's outlook on the game and make you a success (I hope), Id be extremely passionate about my job and your country but I wouldnt sing your anthem.

He only moved his lips because the camera was in his face I imagine.

That was just in response to the poster I quoted mentioning the recent losses down under....pride thing again, had to mention our wins lol "

I know but I still dont see the significance, I am sorry.

You often hear the pundits say of many sports 'That was a gutless performance there by' .... (insert any country here).

They never rewind back to see how many sang the song at the start.

Im all for anthems, to me its more to do with the crowd.

I like the way certain teams at the WC sing and then the music stops, the crowd just carry it on then.

Ive also noticed Brazil's seems to go for 5 minutes where as the others don't.

Im not a huge fan of Opera Singers coming out and drowning every one else out and being at a much higher pitch at the good bits.

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

As someone has already flagged up our anthem is about God saving our King/Queen...most national anthems refer to the concept of country..ie. Land of my fathers..which makes it inclusive to monarchists and republican.

Either way, in professional sport they have no bearing on performance...

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Welsh national anthem the best in the world.

1. Scotland

2. Wales

3. Italy

4. France

5. USA

6. Waltzing Matilda

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is just a horrible thread. They can choose to sing it or not, it's nowt to do with you really. As for the Rugby fans, do me a fucking favour.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"This is just a horrible thread. They can choose to sing it or not, it's nowt to do with you really. As for the Rugby fans, do me a fucking favour. "

Charming lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Because they have little pride playing for country in addition no one should get paid a penny for representing their country.

They don't. The England team donate all their appearance money to charity.

You are correct to a point only a handful have actually donated the fee to charity fact is they should not get a fee full stop.

You are incorrect"

I presume you have evidence you can provide to back this up?

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

It seems us lot are more passionate perhaps than those given the chance to sing it, with a camera man under your nose.

Im dying to see one of these camera men trip and up and the players try and carry on as if nothing happened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rugby is a thuggish game played by gentlemen, and gentlemen take pride in their country and show it.

Soccer is a game for gentlemen played by thugs, thugs are thugs...

Need I say more?

Hard hat on...

Incoming!

Take cover!

Rugby is a thuggish game played by gentlemen, and gentlemen take pride in their country and show it.

Soccer is a game for gentlemen played by thugs, thugs are thugs...

Need I say more?

Hard hat on...

Incoming!

Take cover!

You even know that you've spouted complete bollocks judging by your last few lines. Congrats on stereotyping every person who plays football to be a "thug". What a stupid thing to do. That's like me saying all rugby players are repressed homosexuals as they do that whole gay "banter" thing. It's just a downright stupid thing to say.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I suspect that their Agents won't allow them to sing without payment for this "Extra Artistic Performance"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The huge inferiority complex on this forum is very funny, though, I must admit. I don't like cricket, but you won't see me bad mouthing it because I know other people do... well, that and I'm not twelve any more and I don't feel the need to throw my toys out of the pram screaming "BUT THE RUGBY PLAYERS SHOW MORE PASSION!!!"

Next up on the agenda; soldiers need footballers wages, sponsored by the Chantelle "Fulltime Mummy" Rachet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Because they have little pride playing for country in addition no one should get paid a penny for representing their country.

They don't. The England team donate all their appearance money to charity.

You are correct to a point only a handful have actually donated the fee to charity fact is they should not get a fee full stop.

You are incorrect"

Nah, I'm not.

"England’s football stars have agreed to give their match fees at the World Cup to charity for the first time. The entire squad has been putting match fees paid for international matches into a charity pot for the last two years, raising more than £1m."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And...

"The England Footballers Foundation was established in 2007 when the players decided to donate all of their England match fees and time to good causes. This was the start of a lasting legacy for future England squads to come."

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

"What a load of bollox

I believe they have won a world cup in more recent years and got to at least the semi final, if not the final since...how far have the football team got since 1966??

Like I said, to me not singing shows an arrogance I don't like to see in a national team.

Is that down to singing or coaching?

Performce...coaching

Pride.... Singing

I've not once said that singing improves performance, just that it shows pride and respect which are important attributes to me. "

Are you saying that not singing an anthem means that individual doesn't have pride and respect ?...anyone involved in professional sport knows that individuals have their own way of preparing themselves for performance..some need to get emotional, others don't.

We as spectators don't have that decision to make...we are not performing. So maybe we should show some respect to those that are

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"The huge inferiority complex on this forum is very funny, though, I must admit. I don't like cricket, but you won't see me bad mouthing it because I know other people do... well, that and I'm not twelve any more and I don't feel the need to throw my toys out of the pram screaming "BUT THE RUGBY PLAYERS SHOW MORE PASSION!!!"

Next up on the agenda; soldiers need footballers wages, sponsored by the Chantelle "Fulltime Mummy" Rachet. "

You may not have an inferiority complex but you do come across as Mr angry 'im right,you're wrong'

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"What a load of bollox

I believe they have won a world cup in more recent years and got to at least the semi final, if not the final since...how far have the football team got since 1966??

Like I said, to me not singing shows an arrogance I don't like to see in a national team.

Is that down to singing or coaching?

Performce...coaching

Pride.... Singing

I've not once said that singing improves performance, just that it shows pride and respect which are important attributes to me.

We as spectators don't have that decision to make...we are not performing. So maybe we should show some respect to those that are"

I'm.always,respectful but on this thread I am being allowed to say how it comes across to me personally.

I've no doubt they are proud and have respect for the position they worked hard to get however some fans, myself included, think that they should show their pride and respect by singing the national anthem. It clearly means a lot yo the fans as they sing it at the top of their voices in the terraces!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Next up on the agenda; soldiers need footballers wages, sponsored by the Chantelle "Fulltime Mummy" Rachet.

You may not have an inferiority complex but you do come across as Mr angry 'im right,you're wrong'

I don't see why people need to bash footballers, or football as a sport. If you (not referring to you personally) don't like them, then don't bang on about how much you don't like them and certainly don't create fictitious nonsense about them not giving their international match fees to charity, that's bollocks and unfair. Like I said, I don't go about bashing Cricket or Rugby (I really enjoy watching Rugby when England play actually).

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Young Horney, can me and you be friends but without the requests?

I dont think you could of written it in a better way.

Im not trying to lick their arse and wear them like a hat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love my country, but have never sung the national anthem, because at heart I am a republican. Maybe some of the team are the same?

Also the national anthem is dreadful dirge. Id love it to be something uplifting like Land of Hope and Glory.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"I probably have seen an English Footballer belting it out, I just cant remember an example off the top of my head"

stuart pearce.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love my country, but have never sung the national anthem, because at heart I am a republican. Maybe some of the team are the same?

This ^^^ really.

Other national anthems sing about being proud to be a part of the country. How the people strived for freedom and worked to make the country great. Ours just gives praise to the monarch. It says nothing about being proud to be English. Mentions nothing about what it is to be English. In fact our anthem mentions nothing about being English at all it just wishes our majesty good health.

I can't see the point in forcing people to sing about something they don't believe in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like the welsh anthem as well when everyone sings it !

Maybe the problem is ours is a bit.....dirgey???? Scotland, Wales and Ireland have better tunes to theirs

I see your point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As someone has already flagged up our anthem is about God saving our King/Queen...most national anthems refer to the concept of country..ie. Land of my fathers..which makes it inclusive to monarchists and republican.

Either way, in professional sport they have no bearing on performance..."

Phew! It's not just me!

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

Why do some idiots on here always bring money into equation. The hypocrites wouldn't turn down a hundred grand aweek so why slag off those whom someone deemed fit to get that wage.. Its not Fred blogs or his agent nope but a football club owner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Roy hodgson was in paper other day saying he hoped the players would sing the national anthem. Wtf hope should not be issue he as manager on the world stage should not be hoping ge should make sure they did.

I think national anthem is boring but regardless of that its what we stuck with.

i am not a royalist far from it but patriotic you bet I am.

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By *olwaySonarMan
over a year ago

Carlisle

England currently has no agreed national anthem, with "God Save The Queen", the national anthem of the United Kingdom often being used in sporting events in which England competes separately from the other Home Nations. However, there are calls for this to be changed, and a 2006 survey conducted by the BBC suggested that 55% of the English public would rather have "Land of Hope and Glory" than "God Save the Queen" as their national anthem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"England currently has no agreed national anthem, with "God Save The Queen", the national anthem of the United Kingdom often being used in sporting events in which England competes separately from the other Home Nations. However, there are calls for this to be changed, and a 2006 survey conducted by the BBC suggested that 55% of the English public would rather have "Land of Hope and Glory" than "God Save the Queen" as their national anthem"

Good luck with getting the footballers to remember the words to that.

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By *uncan20004Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Scotland's national anthem is likely to change soon anyway regardless of results in September. Watch this space!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got my vote.

I've looked at the words in other anthems and they're like grand rallying calls, bringing every man, women and child together. I would happily sing our anthem if it was about the nation as a whole.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Scotland's national anthem is likely to change soon anyway regardless of results in September. Watch this space!"

Gutted

King Edwards Army

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"Scotland's national anthem is likely to change soon anyway regardless of results in September. Watch this space!"

very much doubt that.

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By *uncan20004Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Gutted

King Edwards Army

I know. I love flower of Scotland but it's gonna sound wrong to sing it whichever way things go.

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham

The reason footballers don't sing the national anthem is (1) its so boring (2) they are to busy thinking about they fat wage packet an how they are going to spend it

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

as someone else said in the thread... look at the way the brazilians sing their national anthem... and the mexicans last night....

if you want to see a passion... watch the chile vs spain just to see the way the chileans sing their anthem later.....the music will stop, but they wont stop singing it!

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"The reason footballers don't sing the national anthem is (1) its so boring (2) they are to busy thinking about they fat wage packet an how they are going to spend it"

Hi,

Welcome to the thread

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By *rtemisiaWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

Our national anthem is very drear.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Gutted

King Edwards Army

I know. I love flower of Scotland but it's gonna sound wrong to sing it whichever way things go. "

Robbie Brown

Its none of my business seeing as Im Welsh but whatever happens with Scotland, dont change that song.

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By *uncan20004Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Robbie Brown

Its none of my business seeing as Im Welsh but whatever happens with Scotland, dont change that song."

We can hardly vote no then continue singing about "we can still rise now and be a nation again.." (Look out for some awkward moments if/when England come to Glasgow in November for a friendly!)

Similarly, if it's yes, it's gonna look and sound dated. Perhaps time for a new one. I reckon you'll still hear it at the games now and again though.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I adopted it about 20 years ago now and will continue to look after it for you.

Swap you it for Russell Grant, we dont want him anymore

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Roy hodgson was in paper other day saying he hoped the players would sing the national anthem. Wtf hope should not be issue he as manager on the world stage should not be hoping ge should make sure they did.

I think national anthem is boring but regardless of that its what we stuck with.

i am not a royalist far from it but patriotic you bet I am."

I'm waiting for you to substantiate that lie you came up with earlier in this thread.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

Robbie Brown

Its none of my business seeing as Im Welsh but whatever happens with Scotland, dont change that song.

We can hardly vote no then continue singing about "we can still rise now and be a nation again.." (Look out for some awkward moments if/when England come to Glasgow in November for a friendly!)

Similarly, if it's yes, it's gonna look and sound dated. Perhaps time for a new one. I reckon you'll still hear it at the games now and again though."

the only chance it has of changing is if its a yes vote, if its a no vote it will not change, neither will much else dont kid yourself.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Welsh national anthem the best in the world.

Agreed!

God Save The Queen is the Best National Anthem in the world!

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

"What a load of bollox

I believe they have won a world cup in more recent years and got to at least the semi final, if not the final since...how far have the football team got since 1966??

Like I said, to me not singing shows an arrogance I don't like to see in a national team.

Is that down to singing or coaching?

Performce...coaching

Pride.... Singing

I've not once said that singing improves performance, just that it shows pride and respect which are important attributes to me.

We as spectators don't have that decision to make...we are not performing. So maybe we should show some respect to those that are

I'm.always,respectful but on this thread I am being allowed to say how it comes across to me personally.

Think you might have missed the point..fans can sing as loud as they want, and good on them..but they don't have to deal with how players prepare themselves, mentally and emotionally it must be down to individual choice, and as a fan I'm hoping they know best what suits them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Welsh national anthem the best in the world.

Agreed!

God Save The Queen is the Best National Anthem in the world! "

Do you mean because it's ours or because it's a great tune and words ? If it's the latter you're criminally insane.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm waiting for you to substantiate that lie you came up with earlier in this thread. "

Me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe we should change our National anthem to the way the Sex Pistols sang 'God Save The Queen'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally i don't give a toss about the queen or the royal family so I am not going to ask God to save her. Change the anthem and I will sing it

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"Because they have little pride playing for country in addition no one should get paid a penny for representing their country.

They don't. The England team donate all their appearance money to charity.

You are correct to a point only a handful have actually donated the fee to charity fact is they should not get a fee full stop.

You are incorrect"

you are cock sure of this how?.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"Scotland's national anthem is likely to change soon anyway regardless of results in September. Watch this space!

Gutted

King Edwards Army

a bit anal but its "proud edwards army", sorry

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"What a load of bollox

I believe they have won a world cup in more recent years and got to at least the semi final, if not the final since...how far have the football team got since 1966??

Like I said, to me not singing shows an arrogance I don't like to see in a national team.

Is that down to singing or coaching?

Performce...coaching

Pride.... Singing

I've not once said that singing improves performance, just that it shows pride and respect which are important attributes to me.

We as spectators don't have that decision to make...we are not performing. So maybe we should show some respect to those that are

I'm.always,respectful but on this thread I am being allowed to say how it comes across to me personally.

I got your point. I was just reiterating mine.

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By *imon_hydeMan
over a year ago

Stockport

Change the anthem to one that celebrates the nation and not the royal family. I'm proud to be British but I'm not a royalist and won't sing it.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Rugby is a thuggish game played by gentlemen, and gentlemen take pride in their country and show it.

Soccer is a game for gentlemen played by thugs, thugs are thugs...

Need I say more?

Hard hat on...

Incoming!

Take cover!

Really?

I said football is a game for gentlemen played by thugs, I stand by that statement. According to the rules he game is a non contact sport, where cheating is the norm not the exception to the rule. No matter the level of play fouling is considered to be part of the game as is attempting to get away with fouling by immediate denial! Remember 'the hand of god' or Vinny grabbing that other players balls? Why is Garry Linekar the only first class player to never have been booked in the English game?

And the fans...

How often does the chanting from the terraces have to be muffled and dubbed because of foul, racist and insulting chants? Why do the parents of children playing a Sunday morning match scream at their children telling them to get stuck in and take out other children and then try (and at time succeed) to intimidate the ref if a decision is given against their child and team?

Answer: The game is played and followed by thugs.

I also said rugby is a game for thugs played by gentlemen. I stand by that too.

Rugby is a full contact sport, it is extremely violent in nature whit lots of opportunities for foul play however fouling fellow players is the exception rather than the rule. There is none of the menace towards the officials, away players and fans that you get at football matches. I respectfully suggest that this is because despite the nature of the game it is actually played by gentlemen.

Diving for cover again!

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By *he TrunkMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Oh god, another Football vs Rugby thread.

Have a look at Brazil singing theirs last night.

Have a look at Scotland singing Flower of Scotland at Hamden park.

Ive never seen an English footballer belt out an anthem, maybe thats the problem."

Yes the Scots belt their anthem out...

and they didn't even qualify for Brazil

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

Rugby is a thuggish game played by gentlemen, and gentlemen take pride in their country and show it.

Soccer is a game for gentlemen played by thugs, thugs are thugs...

Need I say more?

Hard hat on...

Incoming!

Take cover!

Really?

And the fans...

Answer: The game is played and followed by thugs.

I also said rugby is a game for thugs played by gentlemen. I stand by that too.

Diving for cover again!

you need to read the rules of the game before commenting again, you are making yourself look a right idiot.

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over a year ago

Rugby is a thuggish game played by gentlemen, and gentlemen take pride in their country and show it.

Soccer is a game for gentlemen played by thugs, thugs are thugs...

Need I say more?

Hard hat on...

Incoming!

Take cover!

Really?

And the fans...

Answer: The game is played and followed by thugs.

I also said rugby is a game for thugs played by gentlemen. I stand by that too.

Diving for cover again!

All very well but there is nothing in the rules stating football is a non contact sport.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Why is Garry Linekar the only first class player to never have been booked in the English game?

He isn't

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

My bad, shoulder to shoulder contact is allowed as is unintentional contact to the legs provided the ball is contacted first...

But where do the rules say its OK to ride over the ball and impale another players shins with your studs? Or slide in from the side and do the same to a calf? Or are they just 2 of the 'professional' fouls that are such a part of the 'beautiful game'...

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

" Why is Garry Linekar the only first class player to never have been booked in the English game?

He isn't"

Name another?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Why is Garry Linekar the only first class player to never have been booked in the English game?

He isn't

Name another?"

Stanley Matthews

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

" Why is Garry Linekar the only first class player to never have been booked in the English game?

He isn't

Name another?

Stanley Matthews"

Sorry didn't know that. So 2 in a century, I think your objections to my comments make my point very eloquently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Why is Garry Linekar the only first class player to never have been booked in the English game?

He isn't

Name another?

Stanley Matthews"

Tony Finny, John Charles and Dixie Dean have also never been booked. Lineker was booked while playing in japan so he should be taken of the list.

But being booked is not an indication of cheating. A player can be booked for removing his shirt or swearing, neither of which is seeking to gain an advantage.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"My bad, shoulder to shoulder contact is allowed as is unintentional contact to the legs provided the ball is contacted first...

football is not and never has been a non contact sport, diving/cheating isnt/has never been an accepted part of the sport, it happens and the authorities are struggling to stamp it out but it isnt accepted, yes they are overpaid, but there are some decent ones among them, niall quinn while at sunderland been a prime example, very rarely in the refs note book, never earnt a patch of the money the likes of rooney and all earn and he set a precedent by setting a target of raising a million pound from his testimonial game and donating the lot to charity, which others now follow suit.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Scotland's national anthem is likely to change soon anyway regardless of results in September. Watch this space!

Gutted

King Edwards Army

a bit anal but its "proud edwards army", sorry

Fuck ya right aswell mate, sorry, I must of been thinking about potatoes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rugby is a thuggish game played by gentlemen, and gentlemen take pride in their country and show it.

Soccer is a game for gentlemen played by thugs, thugs are thugs...

Need I say more?

Hard hat on...

Incoming!

Take cover!

Really?

And the fans...

Answer: The game is played and followed by thugs.

I also said rugby is a game for thugs played by gentlemen. I stand by that too.

Diving for cover again!

Your trolling is boring. A 4/10 for the amount you've written but the substance is lacking. I'd advise trying again but with a bit more passion next time.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I dont know who has written the essay thats being added too but a saw a few question marks.

Linekar - Never booked. Cards wern't dished out as much back then, as mentioned, it dosent have to be a foul to get carded these days.

Why do parents get so heated on the touchlines Saturday morning?

Passion and learning from the mistakes we see the stars making on tv.

Rugby a gents game etc. They had to set up a video panel so players can get banned after the match if the ref misses something. That tells me devious things happen amongst all the bodies. Its nicknamed Thugby. Eye gouching, stamping, head high tackles, leading with the shoulder not the arms etc etc.

Rugby is a great sport, the fans, the admin, everything about it, that dosent mean it has to be debated against the best game in the world - football.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

The thread title is 'National Anthems', wtf are talking about?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Your trolling is boring. A 4/10 for the amount you've written but the substance is lacking. I'd advise trying again but with a bit more passion next time. "

Best answer yet!

I doff my hat to you

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"Scotland's national anthem is likely to change soon anyway regardless of results in September. Watch this space!

Gutted

King Edwards Army

a bit anal but its "proud edwards army", sorry

Fuck ya right aswell mate, sorry, I must of been thinking about potatoes

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