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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Has Heath and safety gone to far ?

Watched a program last night on the history of the biscuit at the end they wanted to see the best dunker so they went to the laboratory and clamped 10 biscuits into hot tea and to do this they were wearing safety goggles for fuck sake !!

Don't forget to wear yours next time you dunk a biscuit I might wear oven gloves just to be on the safe side

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I'm sure it was just to make the pointless 'research' seem more scientific

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Splashback, everyone should wear goggles in case of splashback!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Splashback, everyone should wear goggles in case of splashback! "

OOH it doesn't half sting if it gets in your eyes

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Splashback, everyone should wear goggles in case of splashback!

OOH it doesn't half sting if it gets in your eyes "

Especially if you are wearing mascara!

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By *nne CallanWoman
over a year ago

Nothing to see here. Please move along.

I aint gonna wear goggles for giving a bj

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"I aint gonna wear goggles for giving a bj"
Thought we were talking dunking biscuits? Dirty Girl!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's why I don't dunk

It's not worth the risk

Even worse biscuits crumbs !

Don't risk it for a biscuit!!!

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By *atasha_DavidCouple
over a year ago

Slough

WARNING

Not everything you see on the telly is real.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My ex had to do a COSH for masking tape

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My ex had to do a COSH for masking tape "

COSHH

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good old cosh data we have reams of it

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol "

Bit of a jump from not eating to not working

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh dear and what happened to overalls gloves safetyboots incase it falls on your feet and if you work for asda its ok you have to be trained to boil a kettle so no tea for lots of people as only limited people get trained i did a job in one of there stores and couldnt use there kettle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I loved the old days where injury and death were commonplace at work. We just used to shrug it off and carry on regardless. If you phoned an ambulance before your shift was over you were a poofta.

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

I think we are confusing the untrained's interpretation of UK H&S law and what a professional H&S person would put in place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I recently saw footage of them building Sydney Harbour Bridge - no safety gear at all - they all looked very at ease, I'd have been terrified. But sadly some of those guys lost their lives.

I've had to have step ladder training to do one aspect of my job!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no prob with the hse and satety training have went through alot for working at hieghts ladder safety and stuff but some are silly or dont people have common sense or is it teally employers are being shafted by claims on fake injury's and thats why these rules are in place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I loved the old days where injury and death were commonplace at work. We just used to shrug it off and carry on regardless. If you phoned an ambulance before your shift was over you were a poofta. "

And.......if you were off work for more than a few hours you had to prove you had been decapitated

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol "

of course if you weren't given this PPE by your empliers and had an accident you wouldn't put in a claim against them!

banning food and drink from a work shop is not "new", this based on the fact that many chemicals found in a work shop are hazardous when put in the mouth or do you wash your hands every time you put food or drink in your mouth?

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling


"I recently saw footage of them building Sydney Harbour Bridge - no safety gear at all - they all looked very at ease, I'd have been terrified. But sadly some of those guys lost their lives.

I've had to have step ladder training to do one aspect of my job! "

More than "some" lost their lifes. Go to the HSE website and see how many people are injured or killed falling of step ladders.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I have no prob with the hse and satety training have went through alot for working at hieghts ladder safety and stuff but some are silly or dont people have common sense or is it teally employers are being shafted by claims on fake injury's and thats why these rules are in place"

Where theres blame theres a claim and all that.

You make a good point

The world should of grew a pair when people started suing Macdonalds because their coffee burnt them.

Someone should of said 'Fuck off, case closed, you aint getting a penny'

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

In a job a few years ago, a directive was issued to a team of decorators, relating to Working at Height regulations.... all for using a step board 1 inch high on s carpeted floor!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that is a good one but as they say it aint the distance you fall its the sudden stop at the bottom

And as for not being given the ppe by the employer no i wouldnt be claiming as wouldnt be geting hurt no ppe no job gets done as well most people know we are responcable for our own health and safety and others around you so no claim its simple contact employer we need some ppe before we can do job

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol "

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!"

Another good one when i was working on a building site a few months ago there were quite a few eastern europeans, mainly Polish builders who could'nt read english. Now i mentioned this to the site manager "how can the health and safety laws be adhered to when they cannot read the health and safety signs placed here, there and everyfookingwhere about the site?"

Site managers reply....."Best not to mention that if any health and safety inspectors come round"

WTF!

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol "

we had the same where i used to work a written warning for not wearing safety glasses when using the machines

Till I pointed out that they were admitting the safety guards were not effective therefore leaving themselves open to prosecution for unsafe equipment

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

OK I'm just going to address the white elephant in the room as clearly everyone is thinking it but nobody is saying it.

I can't believe the OP watched a biscuit documentary right to the end.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And i cant understand why you didnt watch it

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden


"And i cant understand why you didnt watch it "

It would depend on the type of biscuit for me.

What is your favourite?

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

we had the same where i used to work a written warning for not wearing safety glasses when using the machines

Till I pointed out that they were admitting the safety guards were not effective therefore leaving themselves open to prosecution for unsafe equipment "

UK law allows the use of PPE as a last resort when all other controls are put in place, so as long as your employer has followed the guidance (so far as reasonably practicable)they can issue PPE.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"OK I'm just going to address the white elephant in the room as clearly everyone is thinking it but nobody is saying it.

I can't believe the OP watched a biscuit documentary right to the end. "

Because as a guy with a hot sexy wife I sometimes get bored with having sex with two and three girls at the same time watching five girls

Play together then getting a blow job off three of them having lost of group sex etc etc sometimes I just need to chill with a good biscuit documentary you know what I mean ? Oh no you probably don't !!!!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Health and safety law is built on precedent - things that do happen. The laws are perfectly sound. Sadly it's arse covering hysterical idiots interpretation of law that makes it seem so daft. That and the fact that because of the blame culture and compensation claims made sexy by greedy solicitors - companies tent to go a bit over the top to protect themselves.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!"

lucky you to work in the building trade in this country you could work in Brazil where 1000 workers have lost their lives building the stadiums for there world cup

or you could be in Qatar over a 1000 have died just on the preliminary work for their world cup bid

but you were lucky you worked in britain where jumped up men in spotless suits with clipboards ensured there were zero deaths whilst constructing our Olympic venues but hey its onle silly elf n saftey waalahs isnt it ?????

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!lucky you to work in the building trade in this country you could work in Brazil where 1000 workers have lost their lives building the stadiums for there world cup

or you could be in Qatar over a 1000 have died just on the preliminary work for their world cup bid

but you were lucky you worked in britain where jumped up men in spotless suits with clipboards ensured there were zero deaths whilst constructing our Olympic venues but hey its onle silly elf n saftey waalahs isnt it ????? "

Brazil and Qatar can happily have all the self important ego maniac health and safety executives from Britain as far as i'm concerned. When they put some overalls on over their suits and get their hands dirty (do a proper days work) then they can tell me how to do my job, otherwise they can fook right off!

Same for the EU, where a lot of the over the top health and safety laws have come from. Its hard enough to earn a decent wage as it is on pricework on building sites these days without jumped up pricks in suits wondering around and saying you can't do this, and you can't do that.

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!lucky you to work in the building trade in this country you could work in Brazil where 1000 workers have lost their lives building the stadiums for there world cup

or you could be in Qatar over a 1000 have died just on the preliminary work for their world cup bid

but you were lucky you worked in britain where jumped up men in spotless suits with clipboards ensured there were zero deaths whilst constructing our Olympic venues but hey its onle silly elf n saftey waalahs isnt it ?????

Brazil and Qatar can happily have all the self important ego maniac health and safety executives from Britain as far as i'm concerned. When they put some overalls on over their suits and get their hands dirty (do a proper days work) then they can tell me how to do my job, otherwise they can fook right off!

Same for the EU, where a lot of the over the top health and safety laws have come from. Its hard enough to earn a decent wage as it is on pricework on building sites these days without jumped up pricks in suits wondering around and saying you can't do this, and you can't do that. "

And how many lifes have been saved by these people you call jumped up pricks? How many families have seen loved come home safw after a days work on a building site due to these jumped up pricks? In your world many more would be dead or maimed?

Also, for your information, we had the HSAWA well before the EU got involved. The majority of UK law is based on common sense.

I see people like you everyday, thank fuck the majority of the UK workforce work with their employers to improve safety.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!lucky you to work in the building trade in this country you could work in Brazil where 1000 workers have lost their lives building the stadiums for there world cup

or you could be in Qatar over a 1000 have died just on the preliminary work for their world cup bid

but you were lucky you worked in britain where jumped up men in spotless suits with clipboards ensured there were zero deaths whilst constructing our Olympic venues but hey its onle silly elf n saftey waalahs isnt it ?????

Brazil and Qatar can happily have all the self important ego maniac health and safety executives from Britain as far as i'm concerned. When they put some overalls on over their suits and get their hands dirty (do a proper days work) then they can tell me how to do my job, otherwise they can fook right off!

Same for the EU, where a lot of the over the top health and safety laws have come from. Its hard enough to earn a decent wage as it is on pricework on building sites these days without jumped up pricks in suits wondering around and saying you can't do this, and you can't do that.

And how many lifes have been saved by these people you call jumped up pricks? How many families have seen loved come home safw after a days work on a building site due to these jumped up pricks? In your world many more would be dead or maimed?

Also, for your information, we had the HSAWA well before the EU got involved. The majority of UK law is based on common sense.

I see people like you everyday, thank fuck the majority of the UK workforce work with their employers to improve safety."

Are you one of these jumped up, self important, ego manics in a suit then? lol

Point is we don't need half of these stupid health and safety laws, its basic common sense. I don't need an idiot in a suit to tell me not to put my hand into a circular saw, how to use a step ladder properly, electric does'nt go well with water, blah, blah, blah and all the other obvious bollocks they routinely spout on a daily basis. We already do a CSCS exam in the building trade to get a CSCS card in order to work on sites, its all been covered in the test and then again on tedious site inductions so just leave us alone on the sites to let us get on with our jobs. Quite frankly if you put your hand into a circular saw, don't know how to use a step ladder properly or can't work out where a fire exit is you should'nt be working in the first place. I've been working in the building trade since i left school and trust me most of the stuff that comes out of health and safety executives cakeholes is bollocks.

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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago

Reading

as someone who is with a company and ois a health and safety rep. done the courses. i can assure most on here, all is done to assure that if you have an accident , the company will check , you have been using ppe, followed the job task as written, done risk assessment if required, done job task assesment, ( can be called one tick, one minute or other )followed al procedures. isolated anything required.before job is done,to cover being claimed against. if you can follow this then and remember which in some companies can be several hundred written compliances, the workforce have no chance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm currently Project managing a complex partial building collapse, shoring up, re roofing etc. I have RAMS coming out of my ears, am in constant contact with my CDMC, have had to submit F10 notice etc etc and have been visited by the H&S exec! I've got more site signs up then you could read, scaff tags galore and everyone is in full ppe at all times! Its got to be done though....joy of joys

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!lucky you to work in the building trade in this country you could work in Brazil where 1000 workers have lost their lives building the stadiums for there world cup

or you could be in Qatar over a 1000 have died just on the preliminary work for their world cup bid

but you were lucky you worked in britain where jumped up men in spotless suits with clipboards ensured there were zero deaths whilst constructing our Olympic venues but hey its onle silly elf n saftey waalahs isnt it ?????

Brazil and Qatar can happily have all the self important ego maniac health and safety executives from Britain as far as i'm concerned. When they put some overalls on over their suits and get their hands dirty (do a proper days work) then they can tell me how to do my job, otherwise they can fook right off!

Same for the EU, where a lot of the over the top health and safety laws have come from. Its hard enough to earn a decent wage as it is on pricework on building sites these days without jumped up pricks in suits wondering around and saying you can't do this, and you can't do that.

And how many lifes have been saved by these people you call jumped up pricks? How many families have seen loved come home safw after a days work on a building site due to these jumped up pricks? In your world many more would be dead or maimed?

Also, for your information, we had the HSAWA well before the EU got involved. The majority of UK law is based on common sense.

I see people like you everyday, thank fuck the majority of the UK workforce work with their employers to improve safety.

Are you one of these jumped up, self important, ego manics in a suit then? lol

Point is we don't need half of these stupid health and safety laws, its basic common sense. I don't need an idiot in a suit to tell me not to put my hand into a circular saw, how to use a step ladder properly, electric does'nt go well with water, blah, blah, blah and all the other obvious bollocks they routinely spout on a daily basis. We already do a CSCS exam in the building trade to get a CSCS card in order to work on sites, its all been covered in the test and then again on tedious site inductions so just leave us alone on the sites to let us get on with our jobs. Quite frankly if you put your hand into a circular saw, don't know how to use a step ladder properly or can't work out where a fire exit is you should'nt be working in the first place. I've been working in the building trade since i left school and trust me most of the stuff that comes out of health and safety executives cakeholes is bollocks."

Priceless. I love big men like you and love it even more when people like you are interviewed by an HSE inspector. Strange how many of these big men suddenly go pale when they meet reality.

As for me, I don't wear a suit. I wore a uniform for 22 years and last 10 years have worked in a few industries advising and helping people understand practical HS&E. In fact I haven't met many HS&E professionals who wear suits and fewer still met any who haven't worked at the 'coal face' before moving into this role. But hey, I bow to your greater experience 'big man'

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!lucky you to work in the building trade in this country you could work in Brazil where 1000 workers have lost their lives building the stadiums for there world cup

or you could be in Qatar over a 1000 have died just on the preliminary work for their world cup bid

but you were lucky you worked in britain where jumped up men in spotless suits with clipboards ensured there were zero deaths whilst constructing our Olympic venues but hey its onle silly elf n saftey waalahs isnt it ?????

Brazil and Qatar can happily have all the self important ego maniac health and safety executives from Britain as far as i'm concerned. When they put some overalls on over their suits and get their hands dirty (do a proper days work) then they can tell me how to do my job, otherwise they can fook right off!

Same for the EU, where a lot of the over the top health and safety laws have come from. Its hard enough to earn a decent wage as it is on pricework on building sites these days without jumped up pricks in suits wondering around and saying you can't do this, and you can't do that.

And how many lifes have been saved by these people you call jumped up pricks? How many families have seen loved come home safw after a days work on a building site due to these jumped up pricks? In your world many more would be dead or maimed?

Also, for your information, we had the HSAWA well before the EU got involved. The majority of UK law is based on common sense.

I see people like you everyday, thank fuck the majority of the UK workforce work with their employers to improve safety.

Are you one of these jumped up, self important, ego manics in a suit then? lol

Point is we don't need half of these stupid health and safety laws, its basic common sense. I don't need an idiot in a suit to tell me not to put my hand into a circular saw, how to use a step ladder properly, electric does'nt go well with water, blah, blah, blah and all the other obvious bollocks they routinely spout on a daily basis. We already do a CSCS exam in the building trade to get a CSCS card in order to work on sites, its all been covered in the test and then again on tedious site inductions so just leave us alone on the sites to let us get on with our jobs. Quite frankly if you put your hand into a circular saw, don't know how to use a step ladder properly or can't work out where a fire exit is you should'nt be working in the first place. I've been working in the building trade since i left school and trust me most of the stuff that comes out of health and safety executives cakeholes is bollocks.

Priceless. I love big men like you and love it even more when people like you are interviewed by an HSE inspector. Strange how many of these big men suddenly go pale when they meet reality.

As for me, I don't wear a suit. I wore a uniform for 22 years and last 10 years have worked in a few industries advising and helping people understand practical HS&E. In fact I haven't met many HS&E professionals who wear suits and fewer still met any who haven't worked at the 'coal face' before moving into this role. But hey, I bow to your greater experience 'big man' "

Yes i've met many Health and safety executives on jobs over the years and told them exactly what i thought of them. Never once went pale either so can't see what you are getting at with that statement?

Most of them were wearing starch pressed suits aswel with clipboards in hand. They stick out like sore thumbs on building sites so its impossible to miss them. Most of my work colleagues in the trade despise Health and safety executives and hold the same low opinion of them as i do. Don't be under any illusion that what you preach when you are on site is taken notice of, as soon as you leave site the workmen just go back to doing the job the way they want to do it anyway which is usually the quickest and most efficient way to do the job when working on a price. I do the job how i want to do it, and apply my own basic common sense. Never once injured myself or anyone else in 18 years working in the construction industry either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!lucky you to work in the building trade in this country you could work in Brazil where 1000 workers have lost their lives building the stadiums for there world cup

or you could be in Qatar over a 1000 have died just on the preliminary work for their world cup bid

but you were lucky you worked in britain where jumped up men in spotless suits with clipboards ensured there were zero deaths whilst constructing our Olympic venues but hey its onle silly elf n saftey waalahs isnt it ?????

Brazil and Qatar can happily have all the self important ego maniac health and safety executives from Britain as far as i'm concerned. When they put some overalls on over their suits and get their hands dirty (do a proper days work) then they can tell me how to do my job, otherwise they can fook right off!

Same for the EU, where a lot of the over the top health and safety laws have come from. Its hard enough to earn a decent wage as it is on pricework on building sites these days without jumped up pricks in suits wondering around and saying you can't do this, and you can't do that.

And how many lifes have been saved by these people you call jumped up pricks? How many families have seen loved come home safw after a days work on a building site due to these jumped up pricks? In your world many more would be dead or maimed?

Also, for your information, we had the HSAWA well before the EU got involved. The majority of UK law is based on common sense.

I see people like you everyday, thank fuck the majority of the UK workforce work with their employers to improve safety.

Are you one of these jumped up, self important, ego manics in a suit then? lol

Point is we don't need half of these stupid health and safety laws, its basic common sense. I don't need an idiot in a suit to tell me not to put my hand into a circular saw, how to use a step ladder properly, electric does'nt go well with water, blah, blah, blah and all the other obvious bollocks they routinely spout on a daily basis. We already do a CSCS exam in the building trade to get a CSCS card in order to work on sites, its all been covered in the test and then again on tedious site inductions so just leave us alone on the sites to let us get on with our jobs. Quite frankly if you put your hand into a circular saw, don't know how to use a step ladder properly or can't work out where a fire exit is you should'nt be working in the first place. I've been working in the building trade since i left school and trust me most of the stuff that comes out of health and safety executives cakeholes is bollocks.

Priceless. I love big men like you and love it even more when people like you are interviewed by an HSE inspector. Strange how many of these big men suddenly go pale when they meet reality.

As for me, I don't wear a suit. I wore a uniform for 22 years and last 10 years have worked in a few industries advising and helping people understand practical HS&E. In fact I haven't met many HS&E professionals who wear suits and fewer still met any who haven't worked at the 'coal face' before moving into this role. But hey, I bow to your greater experience 'big man'

Yes i've met many Health and safety executives on jobs over the years and told them exactly what i thought of them. Never once went pale either so can't see what you are getting at with that statement?

Most of them were wearing starch pressed suits aswel with clipboards in hand. They stick out like sore thumbs on building sites so its impossible to miss them. Most of my work colleagues in the trade despise Health and safety executives and hold the same low opinion of them as i do. Don't be under any illusion that what you preach when you are on site is taken notice of, as soon as you leave site the workmen just go back to doing the job the way they want to do it anyway which is usually the quickest and most efficient way to do the job when working on a price. I do the job how i want to do it, and apply my own basic common sense. Never once injured myself or anyone else in 18 years working in the construction industry either."

I wouldn't employ you. You're the reason H&S laws are there. I'm a mechanical engineer by trade and have worked in construction. I've seen too many lives changed because people ignored rules. I'm a H&S manager because I want to help people go home at night in one piece. I neither wear a suit, carry a clipboard or try to stop people doing their work. I work with them to ensure the job gets done within the law. And believe me, if you were being interviewed by a H&S inspector following an accident you wouldn't be telling them what you think of them.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Whilst some health and safety rules seem silly, it's good that we have them. In the bad old days many people were badly injured or worse by lax safety.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My work have gone healthy and healthy insane. Out site the other day on the path in our staff car park, was a tiny puddle, so they closed the the path and down a wet sign so know one would slip.

They closed a foot bath because of a small puddle no bigger than a foot

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"My work have gone healthy and healthy insane. Out site the other day on the path in our staff car park, was a tiny puddle, so they closed the the path and down a wet sign so know one would slip.

They closed a foot bath because of a small puddle no bigger than a foot"

People create these situations themselves as they are far more litigious than they used to be. So organisations have to be hyper conscious in case they are sued.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My work have gone healthy and healthy insane. Out site the other day on the path in our staff car park, was a tiny puddle, so they closed the the path and down a wet sign so know one would slip.

They closed a foot bath because of a small puddle no bigger than a foot

People create these situations themselves as they are far more litigious than they used to be. So organisations have to be hyper conscious in case they are sued. "

Sorry about my terrible spelling firstly. I blame my phone.

And I do agree mostly. But my work are actually really terrible with these rules. I haven't heard of any accidents at work that have warranted this huge clamp down (unless they are keeping it quiet)

I wasn't even allowed to use some scissors the other day incase I sliced my fingers off, so I had to get some one "trained" to do it. I just burst out laughing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!"

And we are the ones who put in place controls to prevent injuries to people like yourself, however you would know this in one of the most hazardous jobs industries in the world. I wouldn't walk around calling a guy in a hard hat and boots a twat for doing his job, just to clarify.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love to dunk my toast in my tea mmmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!lucky you to work in the building trade in this country you could work in Brazil where 1000 workers have lost their lives building the stadiums for there world cup

or you could be in Qatar over a 1000 have died just on the preliminary work for their world cup bid

but you were lucky you worked in britain where jumped up men in spotless suits with clipboards ensured there were zero deaths whilst constructing our Olympic venues but hey its onle silly elf n saftey waalahs isnt it ?????

Brazil and Qatar can happily have all the self important ego maniac health and safety executives from Britain as far as i'm concerned. When they put some overalls on over their suits and get their hands dirty (do a proper days work) then they can tell me how to do my job, otherwise they can fook right off!

Same for the EU, where a lot of the over the top health and safety laws have come from. Its hard enough to earn a decent wage as it is on pricework on building sites these days without jumped up pricks in suits wondering around and saying you can't do this, and you can't do that.

And how many lifes have been saved by these people you call jumped up pricks? How many families have seen loved come home safw after a days work on a building site due to these jumped up pricks? In your world many more would be dead or maimed?

Also, for your information, we had the HSAWA well before the EU got involved. The majority of UK law is based on common sense.

I see people like you everyday, thank fuck the majority of the UK workforce work with their employers to improve safety."

That I couldn't have written better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

H & S have gone OTT and are very selective, Harrison Ford falls over and hurts his leg on set they investigate. Hubby was chemically poisoned and has had 8 years of hell they do not want to know! He had No Training, No Protective Clothing and No Chemical data. Just another Quango

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

We had the HSAWA well before the EU got involved. The majority of UK law is based on common sense.

"

this..

and would add that as industry and work practises have changed etc so have the regs to reflect this..

usually its because something was an unseen consequence or someone has made a mistake or been unlucky..

in any industry common sense will only keep you safe so long if your the type of person who does it their way regardless of and with disregard for safety..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have to say posts that pick on extreme situations or views add little to cogent debate.

I work in the entertainment industry and will be very active in a large out door festival that is looming.

We have to ensure the safety of all attendees and yes we live in a very claims conscious society so sometimes you have to go that extra mile and legislate for some ridiculous situations.

For those of an age you will recall that Jasper Carrot did a whole comedy routine on motoring insurance claims. When I retire I will write a script for him based on claims from the great British public and the quite ludicrous (money seeking) claims that come across my desk.

Remember for every action there has to be an equal and opposite reaction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We had the HSAWA well before the EU got involved. The majority of UK law is based on common sense.

this..

and would add that as industry and work practises have changed etc so have the regs to reflect this..

usually its because something was an unseen consequence or someone has made a mistake or been unlucky..

in any industry common sense will only keep you safe so long if your the type of person who does it their way regardless of and with disregard for safety..

"

Sense at last!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The HSE make us test every emergency stop button on our machines, every shift, ten per machine. This takes half an hour. The only way these can fail would require them to be rewired, in other words sabotage, the place is full of CC cameras.

Has it gone too, put it this way, my company is moving all its manufacturing to the far east, where they don't give a shit about health and safety.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree with: and would add that as industry and work practises have changed etc so have the regs to reflect this..

usually its because something was an unseen consequence or someone has made a mistake or been unlucky..

in any industry common sense will only keep you safe so long if your the type of person who does it their way regardless of and with disregard for safety..

There are many accidents caused by pressure to maintain targets, staff shortages as well as bullying by management also do it or get sacked. You can also include safe practises that become unsafe because of someone not involved with the task but has input to how the task is carried out. There are many factors why H & S is not always the safest way to do things in many circumstances. When you involve people you add a problem to any employment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The HSE make us test every emergency stop button on our machines, every shift, ten per machine. This takes half an hour. The only way these can fail would require them to be rewired, in other words sabotage, the place is full of CC cameras.

Has it gone too, put it this way, my company is moving all its manufacturing to the far east, where they don't give a shit about health and safety.

"

I think you have answered your own question. Countries or cultures that do not have decent workplace standards are usually not that nice a place to live.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I disagree with: and would add that as industry and work practises have changed etc so have the regs to reflect this..

usually its because something was an unseen consequence or someone has made a mistake or been unlucky..

in any industry common sense will only keep you safe so long if your the type of person who does it their way regardless of and with disregard for safety..

There are many accidents caused by pressure to maintain targets, staff shortages as well as bullying by management also do it or get sacked. You can also include safe practises that become unsafe because of someone not involved with the task but has input to how the task is carried out. There are many factors why H & S is not always the safest way to do things in many circumstances. When you involve people you add a problem to any employment"

I wasn't attempting to give a breakdown as to the how and why different types of workplace safety incidents occur and the different factors that attribute to them..

Health and Safety costs money, which is often why the bosses want to cut it or reduce the costs attributed to it..

not usually them that are injured or killed whilst earning a living though usually..

its there by and large because its been shown to reduce the risks attributed to whatever, and sadly those risks have led to deaths and long term injuries/illnesses for the employees and also associated risks to others..

not really sure what your saying about the last sentence.?

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden


"OK I'm just going to address the white elephant in the room as clearly everyone is thinking it but nobody is saying it.

I can't believe the OP watched a biscuit documentary right to the end.

Because as a guy with a hot sexy wife I sometimes get bored with having sex with two and three girls at the same time watching five girls

Play together then getting a blow job off three of them having lost of group sex etc etc sometimes I just need to chill with a good biscuit documentary you know what I mean ? Oh no you probably don't !!!!!!!!!!! "

Wow! You da man! (((high five)))

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The HSE make us test every emergency stop button on our machines, every shift, ten per machine. This takes half an hour. The only way these can fail would require them to be rewired, in other words sabotage, the place is full of CC cameras.

Has it gone too, put it this way, my company is moving all its manufacturing to the far east, where they don't give a shit about health and safety.

I think you have answered your own question. Countries or cultures that do not have decent workplace standards are usually not that nice a place to live."

the good old days when being maimed in a machine was commonplace, drag him or her out ship them off to the infirmary and get that machine running again..

that anyone would think of rewiring a system designed to protect them is beyond me frankly..

if it takes half an hour or an hour that's fine, your at work being paid..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If people knew how to risk assess properly, realistically and sensibly then this really would not be an issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The HSE make us test every emergency stop button on our machines, every shift, ten per machine. This takes half an hour. The only way these can fail would require them to be rewired, in other words sabotage, the place is full of CC cameras.

Has it gone too, put it this way, my company is moving all its manufacturing to the far east, where they don't give a shit about health and safety.

I think you have answered your own question. Countries or cultures that do not have decent workplace standards are usually not that nice a place to live."

Doing these type of tests is not decent workplace standards its jumped up bureaucracy, its giving just another excuse for companies to leave.

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling


"Whilst some health and safety rules seem silly, it's good that we have them. In the bad old days many people were badly injured or worse by lax safety. "

The HSE website has a section on elf & safety myths where people have used the health and safety banner for poor management.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Have to wear safety glasses at work written warning if caught without them same for boots cut yourself and not wearing gloves the earth will open up and sallow me. And the new one is no eating and drinking in work shop what's next don't work it's bad for you lol

Yes i work in the building trade and what is it with working in domestic houses and being told by Health and safety bosses you must wear a hard-hat and a high vis jacket, steel toe cap boots, gloves and safety goggles to do your job while the housing tenant walks around the same area in their pyjamas and a pair of slippers????

Don't get me started on these health and safety bosses who walk round in their spotless suits, clipboard in hand, Ooo look at me and how important i am because i have a clipboard....no you don't you look like a twat!lucky you to work in the building trade in this country you could work in Brazil where 1000 workers have lost their lives building the stadiums for there world cup

or you could be in Qatar over a 1000 have died just on the preliminary work for their world cup bid

but you were lucky you worked in britain where jumped up men in spotless suits with clipboards ensured there were zero deaths whilst constructing our Olympic venues but hey its onle silly elf n saftey waalahs isnt it ?????

Brazil and Qatar can happily have all the self important ego maniac health and safety executives from Britain as far as i'm concerned. When they put some overalls on over their suits and get their hands dirty (do a proper days work) then they can tell me how to do my job, otherwise they can fook right off!

Same for the EU, where a lot of the over the top health and safety laws have come from. Its hard enough to earn a decent wage as it is on pricework on building sites these days without jumped up pricks in suits wondering around and saying you can't do this, and you can't do that.

And how many lifes have been saved by these people you call jumped up pricks? How many families have seen loved come home safw after a days work on a building site due to these jumped up pricks? In your world many more would be dead or maimed?

Also, for your information, we had the HSAWA well before the EU got involved. The majority of UK law is based on common sense.

I see people like you everyday, thank fuck the majority of the UK workforce work with their employers to improve safety.

Are you one of these jumped up, self important, ego manics in a suit then? lol

Point is we don't need half of these stupid health and safety laws, its basic common sense. I don't need an idiot in a suit to tell me not to put my hand into a circular saw, how to use a step ladder properly, electric does'nt go well with water, blah, blah, blah and all the other obvious bollocks they routinely spout on a daily basis. We already do a CSCS exam in the building trade to get a CSCS card in order to work on sites, its all been covered in the test and then again on tedious site inductions so just leave us alone on the sites to let us get on with our jobs. Quite frankly if you put your hand into a circular saw, don't know how to use a step ladder properly or can't work out where a fire exit is you should'nt be working in the first place. I've been working in the building trade since i left school and trust me most of the stuff that comes out of health and safety executives cakeholes is bollocks.

Priceless. I love big men like you and love it even more when people like you are interviewed by an HSE inspector. Strange how many of these big men suddenly go pale when they meet reality.

As for me, I don't wear a suit. I wore a uniform for 22 years and last 10 years have worked in a few industries advising and helping people understand practical HS&E. In fact I haven't met many HS&E professionals who wear suits and fewer still met any who haven't worked at the 'coal face' before moving into this role. But hey, I bow to your greater experience 'big man'

Yes i've met many Health and safety executives on jobs over the years and told them exactly what i thought of them. Never once went pale either so can't see what you are getting at with that statement?

Most of them were wearing starch pressed suits aswel with clipboards in hand. They stick out like sore thumbs on building sites so its impossible to miss them. Most of my work colleagues in the trade despise Health and safety executives and hold the same low opinion of them as i do. Don't be under any illusion that what you preach when you are on site is taken notice of, as soon as you leave site the workmen just go back to doing the job the way they want to do it anyway which is usually the quickest and most efficient way to do the job when working on a price. I do the job how i want to do it, and apply my own basic common sense. Never once injured myself or anyone else in 18 years working in the construction industry either.

I wouldn't employ you. You're the reason H&S laws are there. I'm a mechanical engineer by trade and have worked in construction. I've seen too many lives changed because people ignored rules. I'm a H&S manager because I want to help people go home at night in one piece. I neither wear a suit, carry a clipboard or try to stop people doing their work. I work with them to ensure the job gets done within the law. And believe me, if you were being interviewed by a H&S inspector following an accident you wouldn't be telling them what you think of them. "

Thats ok then, being as i'm not asking you for a job and i would'nt want to work for you in the first place. I've never been interviewed by a H and S inspector because as i said in my previous post i've never been injured and i've never injured anyone else either, so what you said is a non-point really. I think you'll find when you ask any tradesman who has worked on a building site they often get stopped from doing their job by busy bodied H & S inspectors.....and for those saying if it only takes half an hour longer what is the problem when you are getting paid. Well it does'nt work like that if you are on a building site and the work you are doing is on a price, instead of daywork or hourly rate. I'm self employed so if i get stopped from working for half an hour or an hour then that is an hour without being paid. Me and my workmates often get stopped by H&S inspectors sticking their oar in to give what they call "toolbox" talks. A toolbox talk basically means you get stopped from working for half an hour while they give you a holier than thou lecture stating the bleedin obvious!

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

as we have all these elf and safety experts on here maybe one could answer a question that has puzzled me for ages,

Given that a hard hat is to protect you from falling objects, not to protect your head in a fall,

why do telephone engineers have to wear one when up at the top of a pole,

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"as we have all these elf and safety experts on here maybe one could answer a question that has puzzled me for ages,

Given that a hard hat is to protect you from falling objects, not to protect your head in a fall,

why do telephone engineers have to wear one when up at the top of a pole,

"

I can answer that my friend.....its because most health and safety stuff is pie in the sky, loony tunes nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In answer to the hard hat question, I would suspect that wearing a hard hat would be to protect you if you were to be climbing up the pole and bump your head on a protruding item, such as a cable perhaps! Im not in that industry however as a h&s advisor climbing doesn't mean something falling from the sky, it prevents injury to the head if it is struck by something.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Whilst some H&S regulations seem nonsensical, let's not forget why it all started.

Before then workplaces were quite literally lethal. Thousands died over the years. H&S has saved many lives and continues to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think we are confusing the untrained's interpretation of UK H&S law and what a professional H&S person would put in place.

"

This!

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whilst some H&S regulations seem nonsensical, let's not forget why it all started.

Before then workplaces were quite literally lethal. Thousands died over the years. H&S has saved many lives and continues to do so. "

And this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think we are confusing the untrained's interpretation of UK H&S law and what a professional H&S person would put in place.

This! "

Enough said

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