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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Sad to see the news. All those dead soldiers and the billions spent on getting rid of Saddam, and it looks like its going to shit out there, and another Warlord rising in promenance.

Was Western intervention really worth it? Should the West go back in again if the Iraqi government cant sort it?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Sad to see the news. All those dead soldiers and the billions spent on getting rid of Saddam, and it looks like its going to shit out there, and another Warlord rising in promenance.

Was Western intervention really worth it? Should the West go back in again if the Iraqi government cant sort it?"

We're sort of North West really....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, our intervention was worth jack as the regime that is on the rampage makes Saddam's look like a bunch of slipper wearing tofu eating Guardian reading liberals.

And still no sign of the Chilcott report.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Fuck no- we should of never of gone in...war went on for too many issues..I have seen first hand the devastation it has caused to people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

(him) I think what is happening now was inevitable. I think they went about it the wrong way. I think it was right to dispose of the evil, tyrannical Sadam Hussain & give the country back to the Iraqi people, but... we didn't finish the job properly. It's not just ok to chase the Taliban or Al-Qaeda out of a country because they will just regroup & go in again. A few years ago, when we had them on the run, NATO should've sent forces to chase them wherever they went & destroyed them fully. They need to be relentlessly hunted down & wiped out. The Taliban & Al-Qaeda will always be around & will always try to take over city's & countries unless they are totally eradicated. I reckon 12-18 months after we have pulled out if Afganistan, the Taliban will go back in in greater numbers because they are still allowed to exist. We need to wipe them out for totally for the good of our national security & for the stability of the Middle Eastern world.

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

We dont have enough soldiers or equipment to go back.so we are all fucked for life and our children's children will probably end up in the taliban .and in the meantime tony Blair is walking about with a big smile and an even bigger bank balance. Somethin isn't right,just cant put my finger on it

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Afghan will be the same, only we are talking months not years after we all leave there.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

There is not a chance we or anybody is going back in. We knew it was a war for no reason and we wanted to get out asap. In doing so, we won no favours in either country, however, we also do not have the man power or equipment necessary at ground level in this new age, push button drone warfare military.

We have and will turn the countries to shit I'd say, whilst holding the diplomatic flag up - saying that they need to rise up against tyranny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"(him) I think what is happening now was inevitable. I think they went about it the wrong way. I think it was right to dispose of the evil, tyrannical Sadam Hussain & give the country back to the Iraqi people, but... we didn't finish the job properly. It's not just ok to chase the Taliban or Al-Qaeda out of a country because they will just regroup & go in again. A few years ago, when we had them on the run, NATO should've sent forces to chase them wherever they went & destroyed them fully. They need to be relentlessly hunted down & wiped out. The Taliban & Al-Qaeda will always be around & will always try to take over city's & countries unless they are totally eradicated. I reckon 12-18 months after we have pulled out if Afganistan, the Taliban will go back in in greater numbers because they are still allowed to exist. We need to wipe them out for totally for the good of our national security & for the stability of the Middle Eastern world."

Wiping them out totally isn't an option. Actually many men in Iraq and Afghanistan were recruited to the Taliban not because they agreed with the ethos of the organisation but because of cultural aspects. Western forces killed a male family member, and in those cultures the men were duty/honour bound to join the fight against western forces. Also the attitude, particularly of American forces, recruited more. America didn't set up an appropriate infrastructure before pulling out of Iraq, thereby leaving it open to another warlord. It was a sitting duck. Particularly in light of the Arab Spring. They're trying to right that in Afghanistan, but they started off on the same fit as Iraq and the damage done is difficult to mitigate. Eventually, I think whatever they set up the will fall and another group will take over, though I'm not sure it'll be Taliban. There are others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The invasion was illegal and unjust. It was never about the mythical weapons of mass destruction.

Billions of pounds spent in the UK, trillions of dollars spent in the USA. Thousands of dead military, tens of thousands of dead Iraqis.

And the net result? A country in a worse state than when it was invaded.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The invasion was illegal and unjust. It was never about the mythical weapons of mass destruction.

Billions of pounds spent in the UK, trillions of dollars spent in the USA. Thousands of dead military, tens of thousands of dead Iraqis.

And the net result? A country in a worse state than when it was invaded.

"

this..

plus a lot of people got and still are getting very rich..

vile business

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By *olwaySonarMan
over a year ago

Carlisle

Saddam ruled with a rod of iron and kept these factions down, now he and his regime has gone control is up for grabs. Well done Blair & Bush you meddling fooking tossers

Let them sort it out between themselves or get Iain Duncan Smith to crush the revolution like he has our welfare system.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Saddam ruled with a rod of iron and kept these factions down, now he and his regime has gone control is up for grabs. Well done Blair & Bush you meddling fooking tossers

Let them sort it out between themselves or get Iain Duncan Smith to crush the revolution like he has our welfare system."
I agree, we could send the rest of the government out there- Dads Army - The Sequel.

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By *olwaySonarMan
over a year ago

Carlisle


"Saddam ruled with a rod of iron and kept these factions down, now he and his regime has gone control is up for grabs. Well done Blair & Bush you meddling fooking tossers

Let them sort it out between themselves or get Iain Duncan Smith to crush the revolution like he has our welfare system.I agree, we could send the rest of the government out there- Dads Army - The Sequel."

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

If I were Thomas Cook, I shouldn't start a bureau up there just yet.

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

I would like to make a deal with the TAliban.. We will drop in bush&Blair,you leave us the fuck alone and we will do the same. .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sad to see the news. All those dead soldiers and the billions spent on getting rid of Saddam, and it looks like its going to shit out there, and another Warlord rising in promenance.

Was Western intervention really worth it? Should the West go back in again if the Iraqi government cant sort it?"

No, the Western world should leave them to it...not worth the life of one more soldier. There will never be peace and stability unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do you hunt down an ideology?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The invasion was illegal and unjust. It was never about the mythical weapons of mass destruction.

Billions of pounds spent in the UK, trillions of dollars spent in the USA. Thousands of dead military, tens of thousands of dead Iraqis.

And the net result? A country in a worse state than when it was invaded.

"

My thoughts entirely. I do wonder how Bush and Blair sleep at night.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sad to see the news. All those dead soldiers and the billions spent on getting rid of Saddam, and it looks like its going to shit out there, and another Warlord rising in promenance.

Was Western intervention really worth it? Should the West go back in again if the Iraqi government cant sort it?

No, the Western world should leave them to it...not worth the life of one more soldier. There will never be peace and stability unfortunately "
)

Been to both wars ! (Processions) never was or will there be a true conventional war ? The antagonists will blend back into the crowd and we will start all over again trying to keep peace where peace is unattainable !

We are no longer Great ! Britain but the uk we should take the hint of other countries and look after number one !

Charity begins at home ?

(Rant over!!)

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"The invasion was illegal and unjust. It was never about the mythical weapons of mass destruction.

Billions of pounds spent in the UK, trillions of dollars spent in the USA. Thousands of dead military, tens of thousands of dead Iraqis.

And the net result? A country in a worse state than when it was invaded.

My thoughts entirely. I do wonder how Bush and Blair sleep at night."

I suspect they're both sociopaths, or perhaps even psychopaths, and their actions won't trouble them in the slightest.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"The invasion was illegal and unjust. It was never about the mythical weapons of mass destruction.

Billions of pounds spent in the UK, trillions of dollars spent in the USA. Thousands of dead military, tens of thousands of dead Iraqis.

And the net result? A country in a worse state than when it was invaded.

My thoughts entirely. I do wonder how Bush and Blair sleep at night."

I reckon Tony dribbles all over Georges back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course we armed Al-Qaeda in Libia when they were the side we liked, bet nobody went round and collected the weapons when they finished with them...

Meddling in other cultures affairs is seldom a successful enterprise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"(him) I think what is happening now was inevitable. I think they went about it the wrong way. I think it was right to dispose of the evil, tyrannical Sadam Hussain & give the country back to the Iraqi people, but... we didn't finish the job properly. It's not just ok to chase the Taliban or Al-Qaeda out of a country because they will just regroup & go in again. A few years ago, when we had them on the run, NATO should've sent forces to chase them wherever they went & destroyed them fully. They need to be relentlessly hunted down & wiped out. The Taliban & Al-Qaeda will always be around & will always try to take over city's & countries unless they are totally eradicated. I reckon 12-18 months after we have pulled out if Afganistan, the Taliban will go back in in greater numbers because they are still allowed to exist. We need to wipe them out for totally for the good of our national security & for the stability of the Middle Eastern world."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blair and Bush should be made accountable and trialed for crimes against humanity, and those conversations they had made public, the whole thing not just excerpts. It's so sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We should never have gone back in but once we did we needed to do it properly, the same can be said about Afghanistan but we didnt and Afghanistan will end up the same way. We (As a part of UN peacekeeping forces) still have a presence in many places where there is an ethnic/religious divide Kosovo and Cyprus to name but a few.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We should never have gone back in but once we did we needed to do it properly, the same can be said about Afghanistan but we didnt and Afghanistan will end up the same way. We (As a part of UN peacekeeping forces) still have a presence in many places where there is an ethnic/religious divide Kosovo and Cyprus to name but a few.

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Proving that troubles like these are not sorted out in ten years but decades.

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By *irtydanMan
over a year ago

Blackpool


"The invasion was illegal and unjust. It was never about the mythical weapons of mass destruction.

Billions of pounds spent in the UK, trillions of dollars spent in the USA. Thousands of dead military, tens of thousands of dead Iraqis.

And the net result? A country in a worse state than when it was invaded.

this..

plus a lot of people got and still are getting very rich..

vile business"
very well said

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