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"I thought this was an interesting post- "Funny how singles are just shagging around but meet a partner and do it together suddenly they are swingers and it's not just shagging around. You can thinly veil something but it's your thoughts coming out isn't it. If I met a man and didn't love him but still wanted to meet couples for sex would that be just us shagging around? Do the couples have to be in love to be swingers?" As I said on the previous post, I think some people are swingers whether they are in a relationship or not - it's just how/ who they are. I don't think it is wrong to be a swinger, neither do I think it is wrong to not be a swinger." Very good point about the stigma of meeting without being part of couple,, I personally could.never share a person I was in love with its just not for me but I have absolutely nothing against people that do | |||
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"I thought this was an interesting post- "Funny how singles are just shagging around but meet a partner and do it together suddenly they are swingers and it's not just shagging around. You can thinly veil something but it's your thoughts coming out isn't it. If I met a man and didn't love him but still wanted to meet couples for sex would that be just us shagging around? Do the couples have to be in love to be swingers?" As I said on the previous post, I think some people are swingers whether they are in a relationship or not - it's just how/ who they are. I don't think it is wrong to be a swinger, neither do I think it is wrong to not be a swinger." I'd like to be in a swinging/cuckold relationship. That is the ideal for me. | |||
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"ive come across people who wont meet a MF couples if they are not a couple but playmates/fuck buddies Does it make a difference for one partnership to be friends as opposed to one involving love?" It makes a difference to some people, not to others. I think it's usually couples that only meet other couples and all are in committed relationships and want to share the same. | |||
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"ive come across people who wont meet a MF couples if they are not a couple but playmates/fuck buddies Does it make a difference for one partnership to be friends as opposed to one involving love?" Good wuestion | |||
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" If you want threesomes then a single of whatever gender will need to be found. Does that make us just the playthings of the swinging couples? The living breathing equivalent of a dildo? I hope not. " Good point - is a single shagging around if he meets another single but not if he meets a couple? ? | |||
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"... If you want threesomes then a single of whatever gender will need to be found. Does that make us just the playthings of the swinging couples? The living breathing equivalent of a dildo? I hope not. " Only if we allow ourselves to be used that way...? Some couples treat singles that way and I avoid those. | |||
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"... If you want threesomes then a single of whatever gender will need to be found. Does that make us just the playthings of the swinging couples? The living breathing equivalent of a dildo? I hope not. Only if we allow ourselves to be used that way...? Some couples treat singles that way and I avoid those." I wouldn't allow myself to be treated like that. I was just positing the idea that singles can be swingers too. That is unless this strict line that we're not means the couples are using us and think of us as other. | |||
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"... If you want threesomes then a single of whatever gender will need to be found. Does that make us just the playthings of the swinging couples? The living breathing equivalent of a dildo? I hope not. Only if we allow ourselves to be used that way...? Some couples treat singles that way and I avoid those. I wouldn't allow myself to be treated like that. I was just positing the idea that singles can be swingers too. That is unless this strict line that we're not means the couples are using us and think of us as other. " Probably some do. Some will understand though. | |||
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"ive come across people who wont meet a MF couples if they are not a couple but playmates/fuck buddies Does it make a difference for one partnership to be friends as opposed to one involving love?" i think it can do when you meet married couple you both know what each other like know their boundaries know what makes them tick a fb may not know all this | |||
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"This topic interests me... I can kind of understand why some singles wouldn't want to swing if they found their life partner. I wouldn't have wanted to swing with Luke when we first got together, we both enjoyed the early days of our relationship getting to know each other. I suppose it may be different for someone who is already swinging before they enter into a relationship? " Were you swingers before you met or was it something new you found together? | |||
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"This topic interests me... I can kind of understand why some singles wouldn't want to swing if they found their life partner. I wouldn't have wanted to swing with Luke when we first got together, we both enjoyed the early days of our relationship getting to know each other. I suppose it may be different for someone who is already swinging before they enter into a relationship? Were you swingers before you met or was it something new you found together?" It was something new that we entered into together | |||
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" So I find the assertions that singles wouldn't ever entertain swinging at best naive, and at worst uncomfortable that they'd choose to join a swinging community." Well, people are people, and the community of this site has grown beyond merely swinging - that is all I have joined, a site. Not sure why you would be uncomfortable with a statement eg based on my understanding of my own personality rather than any comment or judgement regarding anyone else. | |||
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"This topic interests me... I can kind of understand why some singles wouldn't want to swing if they found their life partner. I wouldn't have wanted to swing with Luke when we first got together, we both enjoyed the early days of our relationship getting to know each other. I suppose it may be different for someone who is already swinging before they enter into a relationship? Were you swingers before you met or was it something new you found together? It was something new that we entered into together " I wonder if some people that say they wouldn't swing with a new partner have had bad experiences that put them off. Two people 'fresh' to it may be more open minded. | |||
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"I wonder if some of the attraction of swinging as a single is that you can stop at any time. Swinging as part of a couple is totally different - if you wanted to give up but your partner wanted to carry on.... then what?" | |||
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"For me swinging is about giving not taking and receiving not controlling. Having my partner enjoy herself through pleasures received from more than one man is wonderful to experience, but not separate room but shared same room. Then the additional incredible feeling that she also enjoys me and wants to be with me when not swinging provides such a feeling of closeness. A truly honest, loving togetherness. I feel swinging is not about sex but playing with friends, adding physical fun to a friendship in a shared, giving not taking way. Not sure I'm making sense, just to add the fuck and forget that also seems to be on this 'swinging' site I find unappealing. That behaviour should have its own site as it does not meet what I would label 'swinging'. " I like that everyone is different and wants different things. Some want friendship, some want fuck n go. Some want couple only swap 4somes, some want one on one, some want group sex... As long as people are happy I think it's ALL good. | |||
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"I wonder if some of the attraction of swinging as a single is that you can stop at any time. Swinging as part of a couple is totally different - if you wanted to give up but your partner wanted to carry on.... then what?" all hell breaks loose in my case ,if I got asked out by a guy from any of my work places i go to I wouldnt hesitate to give all this up x | |||
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"For me swinging is about giving not taking and receiving not controlling. Having my partner enjoy herself through pleasures received from more than one man is wonderful to experience, but not separate room but shared same room. Then the additional incredible feeling that she also enjoys me and wants to be with me when not swinging provides such a feeling of closeness. A truly honest, loving togetherness. I feel swinging is not about sex but playing with friends, adding physical fun to a friendship in a shared, giving not taking way. Not sure I'm making sense, just to add the fuck and forget that also seems to be on this 'swinging' site I find unappealing. That behaviour should have its own site as it does not meet what I would label 'swinging'. " your making perfect sense to me as i was part of a cpl and I enjoyed the social side too the friendships ,so that prob why i cant do fuck n go x | |||
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"I wonder if some of the attraction of swinging as a single is that you can stop at any time. Swinging as part of a couple is totally different - if you wanted to give up but your partner wanted to carry on.... then what?" Then it stops. | |||
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" So I find the assertions that singles wouldn't ever entertain swinging at best naive, and at worst uncomfortable that they'd choose to join a swinging community. Well, people are people, and the community of this site has grown beyond merely swinging - that is all I have joined, a site. Not sure why you would be uncomfortable with a statement eg based on my understanding of my own personality rather than any comment or judgement regarding anyone else." I'm uncomfortable at the idea of being judged to be doing something that others consider beneath them/distasteful/whatever within a community in which I'd expect that people with such attitudes would avoid. But as you correctly point out the user base of this site has moved away from swingers and more towards casual sex. Something I also enjoy. | |||
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"I've noticed quite a few people on here (mainly women) whose profiles say they are looking for a relationship, just one partner, the "one", etc... This seems somewhat at odds with what this site is about - I think they might be better off on a traditional dating site like POF? JMHO" POF is a crap site , most of the guys on there lie about what they want. At least here I know what guys want and I know I can be completely open and honest should my prince find me. | |||
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"I've noticed quite a few people on here (mainly women) whose profiles say they are looking for a relationship, just one partner, the "one", etc... This seems somewhat at odds with what this site is about - I think they might be better off on a traditional dating site like POF? JMHO" POF is shit is full of head fucks who just like to play games and lie about what they want....why can't we look for relationships in every walk of life including fab...I'm not about to fall in love with the next bloke I open my legs too and can do NSA sex...I would like to meet a guy who knows everything about me including my fab life, I've told men out of the scene about fab and on occasions got called a slag and on the other occasions think I'm a easy shag...I'm not looking for a relationship I'm open to a relationship | |||
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"if with a partner then no i wouldnt swing with others however i would tell her that i am on these places after i got to know them a little bit if they wasnt interested in swinging at all then i wouldnt swing at all not when your with someone as i would prefer to swing as a couple but i would still login onto the sites just to talk to friends and keep in contact with them and thats why i would tell her about the sites i was on got nothin to hide nothin to fear as goes for meets and meetings to keep in contact then i would hope that she would come to meet my friends and have a great night out at the same time dosnt mean that we have to swing at all " The keeping in touch and friendships may become more of a problem than having casual sex. It might be seen as keeping that door open in case you get an itch. If swinging is more than just the sex, which I think it is, then you would still be swinging. | |||
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"if with a partner then no i wouldnt swing with others however i would tell her that i am on these places after i got to know them a little bit if they wasnt interested in swinging at all then i wouldnt swing at all not when your with someone as i would prefer to swing as a couple but i would still login onto the sites just to talk to friends and keep in contact with them and thats why i would tell her about the sites i was on got nothin to hide nothin to fear as goes for meets and meetings to keep in contact then i would hope that she would come to meet my friends and have a great night out at the same time dosnt mean that we have to swing at all The keeping in touch and friendships may become more of a problem than having casual sex. It might be seen as keeping that door open in case you get an itch. If swinging is more than just the sex, which I think it is, then you would still be swinging." Licketysplits you are a wise woman! You have hit the nail on the head. I totally agree. | |||
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"I find this subject interesting and at the same time a lot of it makes me uncomfortable. We've been together 18 years, married for 10. We started swinging 3/4 years ago mainly so D could experience her Bi side. As we've become more comfortable over time we have expanded our 'play activities'. We are extremely loyal and love each other deeply, affairs previously were never considered it's just not us. We do this because it's something we enjoy doing together, it is exciting and thrilling to share sexual experiences with others outside our relationship. The trust between us has grown much deeper than I ever thought it could when we got married. Swinging has definitely made out bond stronger. I always feel 'D is offered the world yet always returns to us' and vice-versa. It makes me very uncomfortable when people say 'if I loved someone I wouldn't swing' because that infers I don't love my wife and she me. Also we like to swing with people that 'get it' or at least don't judge others. If you think to swing you have to have a defective or broken relationship in some way then I don't see how you can consider yourself a swinger in its truest form. I'm not saying we wouldn't consider enjoying sex with someone who was here for casual sex. Just don't judge a couple you are playing with to have a broken relationship because of that. There is no issue if one of us wanted to stop we'd simply stop. It's fun for 'us together' if it stops being fun then we stop. It's not something we need to do to save anything or replace something that's not there. It's just fun we share." Lots of people on here don't consider themselves swingers, hence the question. Some people may think a couple has a broken relationship to swing but many others will understand it can make a couple stronger. (Can... not always...) | |||
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"I find this subject interesting and at the same time a lot of it makes me uncomfortable. We've been together 18 years, married for 10. We started swinging 3/4 years ago mainly so D could experience her Bi side. As we've become more comfortable over time we have expanded our 'play activities'. We are extremely loyal and love each other deeply, affairs previously were never considered it's just not us. We do this because it's something we enjoy doing together, it is exciting and thrilling to share sexual experiences with others outside our relationship. The trust between us has grown much deeper than I ever thought it could when we got married. Swinging has definitely made out bond stronger. I always feel 'D is offered the world yet always returns to us' and vice-versa. It makes me very uncomfortable when people say 'if I loved someone I wouldn't swing' because that infers I don't love my wife and she me. Also we like to swing with people that 'get it' or at least don't judge others. If you think to swing you have to have a defective or broken relationship in some way then I don't see how you can consider yourself a swinger in its truest form. I'm not saying we wouldn't consider enjoying sex with someone who was here for casual sex. Just don't judge a couple you are playing with to have a broken relationship because of that. There is no issue if one of us wanted to stop we'd simply stop. It's fun for 'us together' if it stops being fun then we stop. It's not something we need to do to save anything or replace something that's not there. It's just fun we share." we have a winner! Anyone who judges swingers as having a 'defective' relationship, In my opinion, has NEVER had the strong 100% open trusting relationship, that successful swingers enjoy. Or they just read the daily mail! | |||
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"I find this subject interesting and at the same time a lot of it makes me uncomfortable. We've been together 18 years, married for 10. We started swinging 3/4 years ago mainly so D could experience her Bi side. As we've become more comfortable over time we have expanded our 'play activities'. We are extremely loyal and love each other deeply, affairs previously were never considered it's just not us. We do this because it's something we enjoy doing together, it is exciting and thrilling to share sexual experiences with others outside our relationship. The trust between us has grown much deeper than I ever thought it could when we got married. Swinging has definitely made out bond stronger. I always feel 'D is offered the world yet always returns to us' and vice-versa. It makes me very uncomfortable when people say 'if I loved someone I wouldn't swing' because that infers I don't love my wife and she me. Also we like to swing with people that 'get it' or at least don't judge others. If you think to swing you have to have a defective or broken relationship in some way then I don't see how you can consider yourself a swinger in its truest form. I'm not saying we wouldn't consider enjoying sex with someone who was here for casual sex. Just don't judge a couple you are playing with to have a broken relationship because of that. There is no issue if one of us wanted to stop we'd simply stop. It's fun for 'us together' if it stops being fun then we stop. It's not something we need to do to save anything or replace something that's not there. It's just fun we share. we have a winner! Anyone who judges swingers as having a 'defective' relationship, In my opinion, has NEVER had the strong 100% open trusting relationship, that successful swingers enjoy. Or they just read the daily mail! " just because someone says they couldn't swing with someone they love doesn't mean they are inferring people who do aren't in love. No one has said that have they? Each relationship is different,some can do it some can't. I don't think couples who do aren't in love | |||
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"Anyone who judges swingers as having a 'defective' relationship, In my opinion, has NEVER had the strong 100% open trusting relationship, that successful swingers enjoy. " I agree with this and I think it's perhaps very hard to understand if you haven't been in the position. Not so long ago I'd have been disgusted at the idea of swinging too, or if not disgusted at least find it humorous, so I'm not surprised at people that wouldn't get it - but I am surprised if such people join a swinging community. And even Fab isn't so much a swinging community anymore it's still a weird place to end up if you don't like the idea of it. | |||
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"just because someone says they couldn't swing with someone they love doesn't mean they are inferring people who do aren't in love." I don't have any issue with this. My issue is with people that have prejudged the act of swinging by writing it off if they ever meet 'the one'. That suggests to me they look down on the activity. As I said before I would have too once upon a time, but at that time I'd have never signed up to a swinging site. | |||
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"just because someone says they couldn't swing with someone they love doesn't mean they are inferring people who do aren't in love. I don't have any issue with this. My issue is with people that have prejudged the act of swinging by writing it off if they ever meet 'the one'. That suggests to me they look down on the activity. As I said before I would have too once upon a time, but at that time I'd have never signed up to a swinging site." I wouldn't call it looking down on it. I wouldn't look down on anyone who does it,I just don't find it attractive to me with someone I have committed myself to. I like foresaking all others. I could have a relationship that was purely a sexual one and swing. My man I love I want to myself and only want to give myself to him. It might never happen again but it's how I like it | |||
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"Obviously there's a new site needed - fabsingles, for all those who like to shag around but legitimise it by calling themselves swingers. We've never bought the "singles can't be swingers" line but many of the posts on this thread are changing our minds. " There was a site called fabflirts , not sure it worked out. | |||
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"just because someone says they couldn't swing with someone they love doesn't mean they are inferring people who do aren't in love. I don't have any issue with this. My issue is with people that have prejudged the act of swinging by writing it off if they ever meet 'the one'. That suggests to me they look down on the activity. As I said before I would have too once upon a time, but at that time I'd have never signed up to a swinging site. I wouldn't call it looking down on it. I wouldn't look down on anyone who does it,I just don't find it attractive to me with someone I have committed myself to. I like foresaking all others. I could have a relationship that was purely a sexual one and swing. My man I love I want to myself and only want to give myself to him. It might never happen again but it's how I like it" It's complex because at some stage most couples that swing didn't and probably never thought they would - and so obviously it's nothing against people making the judgement not to swing when in a committed relationship - that's 'normal' afterall. But if you partake in swinging events, sign up to a swinging community etc. and all the while are thinking 'I'd never do it' - it's hard to see how that can be anything other than a negative judgement on those that do. Obviousy if you partake in swinging as a single, meet somebody and that relationship takes you away from swinging there's nothing wrong with that too. But judging up front that you'd never do it - I think that has to be a negative judgement on swingers. | |||
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"just because someone says they couldn't swing with someone they love doesn't mean they are inferring people who do aren't in love. I don't have any issue with this. My issue is with people that have prejudged the act of swinging by writing it off if they ever meet 'the one'. That suggests to me they look down on the activity. As I said before I would have too once upon a time, but at that time I'd have never signed up to a swinging site. I wouldn't call it looking down on it. I wouldn't look down on anyone who does it,I just don't find it attractive to me with someone I have committed myself to. I like foresaking all others. I could have a relationship that was purely a sexual one and swing. My man I love I want to myself and only want to give myself to him. It might never happen again but it's how I like it It's complex because at some stage most couples that swing didn't and probably never thought they would - and so obviously it's nothing against people making the judgement not to swing when in a committed relationship - that's 'normal' afterall. But if you partake in swinging events, sign up to a swinging community etc. and all the while are thinking 'I'd never do it' - it's hard to see how that can be anything other than a negative judgement on those that do. Obviousy if you partake in swinging as a single, meet somebody and that relationship takes you away from swinging there's nothing wrong with that too. But judging up front that you'd never do it - I think that has to be a negative judgement on swingers." Take my word for it,it's not a negative judgment from me | |||
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"just because someone says they couldn't swing with someone they love doesn't mean they are inferring people who do aren't in love. I don't have any issue with this. My issue is with people that have prejudged the act of swinging by writing it off if they ever meet 'the one'. That suggests to me they look down on the activity. As I said before I would have too once upon a time, but at that time I'd have never signed up to a swinging site. I wouldn't call it looking down on it. I wouldn't look down on anyone who does it,I just don't find it attractive to me with someone I have committed myself to. I like foresaking all others. I could have a relationship that was purely a sexual one and swing. My man I love I want to myself and only want to give myself to him. It might never happen again but it's how I like it It's complex because at some stage most couples that swing didn't and probably never thought they would - and so obviously it's nothing against people making the judgement not to swing when in a committed relationship - that's 'normal' afterall. But if you partake in swinging events, sign up to a swinging community etc. and all the while are thinking 'I'd never do it' - it's hard to see how that can be anything other than a negative judgement on those that do. Obviousy if you partake in swinging as a single, meet somebody and that relationship takes you away from swinging there's nothing wrong with that too. But judging up front that you'd never do it - I think that has to be a negative judgement on swingers." I don't think its being judgemental about others at all its just personal choice of how you want to conduct a relationship. | |||
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" I'm uncomfortable at the idea of being judged to be doing something that others consider beneath them/distasteful/whatever within a community in which I'd expect that people with such attitudes would avoid. " For sure, but that 'idea' is yours, not mine!! You only have to read the forums to see that virtually every type of relationship and sex you can imagine is represented here, in every group, who is anyone to judge anyone else? It's a bit childish if you ask me - each to their own for heavens sake, live and let live!! My choices are simply a reflection of my character and personality, I know it well enough by now to know what I want. When I love, I don't even look at other men let alone want them. Venus in Taurus, what can I say. You may be very different - fill yer boots! I am not the slightest bit bi curious, have no desire to sleep with TV/TS, and so the only 'couple' I would have any interest in meanwhile is a couple of straight men!! | |||
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"just because someone says they couldn't swing with someone they love doesn't mean they are inferring people who do aren't in love. I don't have any issue with this. My issue is with people that have prejudged the act of swinging by writing it off if they ever meet 'the one'. That suggests to me they look down on the activity. As I said before I would have too once upon a time, but at that time I'd have never signed up to a swinging site. I wouldn't call it looking down on it. I wouldn't look down on anyone who does it,I just don't find it attractive to me with someone I have committed myself to. I like foresaking all others. I could have a relationship that was purely a sexual one and swing. My man I love I want to myself and only want to give myself to him. It might never happen again but it's how I like it" | |||
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"just because someone says they couldn't swing with someone they love doesn't mean they are inferring people who do aren't in love. I don't have any issue with this. My issue is with people that have prejudged the act of swinging by writing it off if they ever meet 'the one'. That suggests to me they look down on the activity. As I said before I would have too once upon a time, but at that time I'd have never signed up to a swinging site. I wouldn't call it looking down on it. I wouldn't look down on anyone who does it,I just don't find it attractive to me with someone I have committed myself to. I like foresaking all others. I could have a relationship that was purely a sexual one and swing. My man I love I want to myself and only want to give myself to him. It might never happen again but it's how I like it It's complex because at some stage most couples that swing didn't and probably never thought they would - and so obviously it's nothing against people making the judgement not to swing when in a committed relationship - that's 'normal' afterall. But if you partake in swinging events, sign up to a swinging community etc. and all the while are thinking 'I'd never do it' - it's hard to see how that can be anything other than a negative judgement on those that do. Obviousy if you partake in swinging as a single, meet somebody and that relationship takes you away from swinging there's nothing wrong with that too. But judging up front that you'd never do it - I think that has to be a negative judgement on swingers. I don't think its being judgemental about others at all its just personal choice of how you want to conduct a relationship." I agree. Someone on the first thread said she couldn't swing with a partner, but not because she thought swinging was bad. Just that she thought she wouldn't be able to cope with the emotional stuff. And I think that's a fair comment. It's nothing to do with other people, some people just can't do it for their own reasons. | |||
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"Obviously there's a new site needed - fabsingles, for all those who like to shag around but legitimise it by calling themselves swingers. We've never bought the "singles can't be swingers" line but many of the posts on this thread are changing our minds. " I don't understand. Couples shag around and it's called swinging. Singles can't do the same? | |||
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"Obviously there's a new site needed - fabsingles, for all those who like to shag around but legitimise it by calling themselves swingers. We've never bought the "singles can't be swingers" line but many of the posts on this thread are changing our minds. " that is a seriously judgemental and detrimental remark to make. Why not look for a website solely for couples meeting couples. Your attitude is awful. I don't justify my sex life by calling myself a swinger. The label of swinger does not legitimise anything for anyone. I've probably had less partners than a lot of women in couples on here. I don't judge them for being more promiscuous than me and it doesn't legitimise it for them because their husbands watch or join in. Singles have friendships and relationships with their partners the same as couples. We aren't just shagging around | |||
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"Obviously there's a new site needed - fabsingles, for all those who like to shag around but legitimise it by calling themselves swingers. We've never bought the "singles can't be swingers" line but many of the posts on this thread are changing our minds. that is a seriously judgemental and detrimental remark to make. Why not look for a website solely for couples meeting couples. Your attitude is awful. I don't justify my sex life by calling myself a swinger. The label of swinger does not legitimise anything for anyone. I've probably had less partners than a lot of women in couples on here. I don't judge them for being more promiscuous than me and it doesn't legitimise it for them because their husbands watch or join in. Singles have friendships and relationships with their partners the same as couples. We aren't just shagging around " Yes, that is one of the most spiteful posts I have ever read, and hypocritical to the max. You could just as easily say that swingers were couples who liked to shag around. It is a derogatory term and even those who have made a decision to have casual sex longterm in preference to a relationship I am sure would not appreciate it, especially those facilitating that by meeting primarily swinging couples! | |||
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"We stopped meeting other people over two years ago now. It was my decision to stop. I told Kate that I didn't want to do it anymore and she just said "Fine, ok". I decided to stop for two reasons. Firstly, I'd satisfied the fantasies I had when we started, and secondly because I didn't think that as I passed mid fifties that I could still attract the ladies I wanted to meet, so thought I'd quit while I was still winning If Kate told me that she wanted to start meeting people again I would certainly reconsider. I wouldn't want her to meet on her own though, just as I would never meet anyone on my own. We're still members here because I like to contribute to the forums. I'm lurking most days, but I'm not a prolific poster these days. We're still up for socials though so you might still see us knocking around. " We are in Truro next weekend, we are taking my daughter to have a look at the Uni. Can you recommend a pub for me to watch the England game in. (Sorry to interrupt an interesting thread) | |||
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"We d really like to hear from a single man what makes him a swinger if he would nt play with his own partner or wife ?" The point you make also goes for single women also... | |||
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"We d really like to hear from a single man what makes him a swinger if he would nt play with his own partner or wife ?" Isn't that the same question that should be asked to single females and not just males? | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? " I can only answer for us, but we would both stop. We came into this together and to be honest don't actually meet very often so it wouldn't really be a big loss. | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? I can only answer for us, but we would both stop. We came into this together and to be honest don't actually meet very often so it wouldn't really be a big loss. " Same as SOTB. | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? " That's easy. This is something we do together for fun. If it stops being fun for either of us then we stop. The important point is it's fun. We don't need it and it's not there to 'fix' anything or forfill anyone's needs. It's just fun.. | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? I can only answer for us, but we would both stop. We came into this together and to be honest don't actually meet very often so it wouldn't really be a big loss. " wonder if many couples have had to deal with that issue and come out the other side still as couple ? | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? I can only answer for us, but we would both stop. We came into this together and to be honest don't actually meet very often so it wouldn't really be a big loss. " wonder if many couples have had to deal with that issue and come out the other side still as couple ? | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? I can only answer for us, but we would both stop. We came into this together and to be honest don't actually meet very often so it wouldn't really be a big loss. wonder if many couples have had to deal with that issue and come out the other side still as couple ? " I would think probably quite a few. Mainly those that started for the wrong reasons in the first place. | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? " See Jacks post above....I am guessing the majority of couples would have the same answer. | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? See Jacks post above....I am guessing the majority of couples would have the same answer. " . Yeah it was after reading Jacks post I wondered about it x | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? I can only answer for us, but we would both stop. We came into this together and to be honest don't actually meet very often so it wouldn't really be a big loss. wonder if many couples have had to deal with that issue and come out the other side still as couple ? " I guess that would depend on the couple and the reasons they started swinging in the first place? | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? See Jacks post above....I am guessing the majority of couples would have the same answer. . Yeah it was after reading Jacks post I wondered about it x " The turn on for most is watching the OH enjoying themselves, so if one wanted to stop then it would be pointless carrying on....but if it was a problem stopping for one half of the relationship then I think that relationship is not as strong as they think anyway. For some reason a lot of people seem to think that to swing you can't love the OH enough or you are being pushed into it....if that is your own ( not you personally ) mindset then swinging would never be for you. It isn't for everybody, but I am suprised like another poster that those people ended up on a swinging site | |||
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" Everyones situation is different, but me and my partner do feel better I think, knowing we had 13 years on the clock before we involved anyone else" I think its great that you have had lots of happy years, with the two of you - and more to come as a couple here. My experience is that after 19 years being married, never open to any suggestion of another - very anti - then he cheated on me - marriage over. Will and I met at a forum social, and became a couple almost immediately - we knew we had feelings for each other. The couples we meet are fun, and sexy, and wonderful people - but they are to add some extra excitement, not replace what we have x Sara x | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? See Jacks post above....I am guessing the majority of couples would have the same answer. . Yeah it was after reading Jacks post I wondered about it x The turn on for most is watching the OH enjoying themselves, so if one wanted to stop then it would be pointless carrying on....but if it was a problem stopping for one half of the relationship then I think that relationship is not as strong as they think anyway. For some reason a lot of people seem to think that to swing you can't love the OH enough or you are being pushed into it....if that is your own ( not you personally ) mindset then swinging would never be for you. It isn't for everybody, but I am suprised like another poster that those people ended up on a swinging site " yeah there dose seem to be a misconception regarding couple, as in there NOT in a loving fulfilled relationship and other such twaddle. | |||
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"I really couldn't give a fuck what I am called, or what others call themselves... I am here for sex, end of. " You're called greedy! PMSL xxx From another greedy one! xx | |||
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"We d really like to hear from a single man what makes him a swinger if he would nt play with his own partner or wife ? The point you make also goes for single women also... " not sure tbh very few single females on here looking to play without partners consent but we re open minded on this | |||
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"We d really like to hear from a single man what makes him a swinger if he would nt play with his own partner or wife ? The point you make also goes for single women also... not sure tbh very few single females on here looking to play without partners consent but we re open minded on this " I think it's more the fems on here that are playing without consent tend to keep a lower profile , not all but I would say most. | |||
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"We d really like to hear from a single man what makes him a swinger if he would nt play with his own partner or wife ? The point you make also goes for single women also... not sure tbh very few single females on here looking to play without partners consent but we re open minded on this " Well I've not got a partner and I know a fair few other single women that are single and have no partners | |||
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"not sure tbh very few single females on here looking to play without partners consent but we re open minded on this " I am sorry... this one made me choke on some perfectly good alcohol then........ maybe not as many as men playing away, but from my inbox there are a fair few women who do..... | |||
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"We d really like to hear from a single man what makes him a swinger if he would nt play with his own partner or wife ? The point you make also goes for single women also... " My 2 pence worth. A swinger, by definition is two people in an established relationship. The term established relationship has been distorted and twisted to accomodate fb couples etc and enable them to adopt the term swingers. We enjoy the single element they really do enhance the ' lifestyle '. Long live the single 'swinger '. I do feel however that singles, particularly men, are now over represented and to a certain extent seem hell bent on dominating a lifestyle they are only an accessory to. Harsh but realistic I know. As for single fems, they really are not rare. There are many single bi fems out there just not on any given website. The term ' swingers ' would now appear to be any person looking for a free shag, affair or simply a ' can't get a shag so i'll have a crack at another persons partner'. | |||
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"We d really like to hear from a single man what makes him a swinger if he would nt play with his own partner or wife ? The point you make also goes for single women also... My 2 pence worth. A swinger, by definition is two people in an established relationship. The term established relationship has been distorted and twisted to accomodate fb couples etc and enable them to adopt the term swingers. We enjoy the single element they really do enhance the ' lifestyle '. Long live the single 'swinger '. I do feel however that singles, particularly men, are now over represented and to a certain extent seem hell bent on dominating a lifestyle they are only an accessory to. Harsh but realistic I know. As for single fems, they really are not rare. There are many single bi fems out there just not on any given website. The term ' swingers ' would now appear to be any person looking for a free shag, affair or simply a ' can't get a shag so i'll have a crack at another persons partner'. " Not convinced that single males should be branded as an accessory and its not all just about getting a shag or shagging somebody elses wife.I feel there is a lot more to it,there is for me anyway. | |||
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"We d really like to hear from a single man what makes him a swinger if he would nt play with his own partner or wife ? The point you make also goes for single women also... My 2 pence worth. A swinger, by definition is two people in an established relationship. The term established relationship has been distorted and twisted to accomodate fb couples etc and enable them to adopt the term swingers. We enjoy the single element they really do enhance the ' lifestyle '. Long live the single 'swinger '. I do feel however that singles, particularly men, are now over represented and to a certain extent seem hell bent on dominating a lifestyle they are only an accessory to. Harsh but realistic I know. As for single fems, they really are not rare. There are many single bi fems out there just not on any given website. The term ' swingers ' would now appear to be any person looking for a free shag, affair or simply a ' can't get a shag so i'll have a crack at another persons partner'. Not convinced that single males should be branded as an accessory and its not all just about getting a shag or shagging somebody elses wife.I feel there is a lot more to it,there is for me anyway." My appologies. From this day forward they shall be refered to as ' an alternative lifestyle engineer ' | |||
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"since this has come round again and certain posts have been reposted I am going to re add my contribution... okay..... lets flip this round slightly... I have a curious question so to those singles who would outright dismiss doing this with a partner.... would you tell them you were ever here in the first place? not just talking about at first... but ever? because by reading some of the replies I think that answer would be no..... if the answer is yes, how would you then deal with it if they were curious to find out more? the great thing I love about the site is that for a lot of people, its more than just the sex.... there is a fantastic social side that goes along with it.... if you are here just purely for the sex... then isn't it in a way a "stopgap"...... and I think that is what ruffles feathers...... and that is what makes people feel uneasy... the "oh your good enough for now... but be damned when I find someone" feeling that some of these post interject... especially when people say... right i am off.. found someone! and then slink back in if it doesn't work out......." If I was in a new relationship with someone off the site, there is no way I would mention being on here or anything about any of this. Most people just wouldn't understand so I absolutely wouldn't 'out' myself. But it certainly isn't a 'stopgap for me until something better comes along'. Couples may at some point decide they want to stop swinging and that seems to be ok- why can't singles decide they want to stop too, and that be ok? | |||
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"since this has come round again and certain posts have been reposted I am going to re add my contribution... okay..... lets flip this round slightly... I have a curious question so to those singles who would outright dismiss doing this with a partner.... would you tell them you were ever here in the first place? not just talking about at first... but ever? because by reading some of the replies I think that answer would be no..... if the answer is yes, how would you then deal with it if they were curious to find out more? the great thing I love about the site is that for a lot of people, its more than just the sex.... there is a fantastic social side that goes along with it.... if you are here just purely for the sex... then isn't it in a way a "stopgap"...... and I think that is what ruffles feathers...... and that is what makes people feel uneasy... the "oh your good enough for now... but be damned when I find someone" feeling that some of these post interject... especially when people say... right i am off.. found someone! and then slink back in if it doesn't work out....... If I was in a new relationship with someone off the site, there is no way I would mention being on here or anything about any of this. Most people just wouldn't understand so I absolutely wouldn't 'out' myself. But it certainly isn't a 'stopgap for me until something better comes along'. Couples may at some point decide they want to stop swinging and that seems to be ok- why can't singles decide they want to stop too, and that be ok?" Just because its against the rules not to share when we have ok! | |||
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" I'm uncomfortable at the idea of being judged to be doing something that others consider beneath them/distasteful/whatever within a community in which I'd expect that people with such attitudes would avoid. For sure, but that 'idea' is yours, not mine!! You only have to read the forums to see that virtually every type of relationship and sex you can imagine is represented here, in every group, who is anyone to judge anyone else? It's a bit childish if you ask me - each to their own for heavens sake, live and let live!! My choices are simply a reflection of my character and personality, I know it well enough by now to know what I want. When I love, I don't even look at other men let alone want them. Venus in Taurus, what can I say. You may be very different - fill yer boots! I am not the slightest bit bi curious, have no desire to sleep with TV/TS, and so the only 'couple' I would have any interest in meanwhile is a couple of straight men!! " Putting aside the childish 'childish' remark... you nonetheless illustrate my point with "When I love, I don't even look at other men let alone want them. " How could you possibly ever know in advance whether a loving relationship you may have in the future could lead to swinging? Unless you have taken a stance that you would never allow it to. In which case I can only see that it is a decision based on your regard for it. | |||
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"My question for couples would be What happens when 1 partner wishes to stop meeting and the other dosnt??? See Jacks post above....I am guessing the majority of couples would have the same answer. . Yeah it was after reading Jacks post I wondered about it x The turn on for most is watching the OH enjoying themselves, so if one wanted to stop then it would be pointless carrying on....but if it was a problem stopping for one half of the relationship then I think that relationship is not as strong as they think anyway. For some reason a lot of people seem to think that to swing you can't love the OH enough or you are being pushed into it....if that is your own ( not you personally ) mindset then swinging would never be for you. It isn't for everybody, but I am suprised like another poster that those people ended up on a swinging site " If people don't feel they are swingers themselves and use the site for different things, I see no problem with that at all. We can all get along fine with our many different kinks/ wants/ needs. If those people are dismissive/ rude about people that do swing, I don't think this is the site for them. | |||
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"and that is what makes people feel uneasy... the "oh your good enough for now... but be damned when I find someone" feeling that some of these post interject... especially when people say... right i am off.. found someone! and then slink back in if it doesn't work out......." Yes - although it's not the personal relationships I'm bothered about as I'm not interested in them and nobody should ever be resentful if people move on - good for them. What I don't like is the 'I'd like to fuck you - but if I was in your position I wouldn't ever do what you're doing' thing. | |||
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"I always thought that to be a swinger, you had to be in some sort of relationship already so the question is flawed Am i wrong? JN" I agree with that. | |||
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"I always thought that to be a swinger, you had to be in some sort of relationship already so the question is flawed Am i wrong? JN" Some people think so, and that is certainly the background of the term. I think any person can be a swinger. You don't have to be in a relationship, it's just who- and how- you are. | |||
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"and that is what makes people feel uneasy... the "oh your good enough for now... but be damned when I find someone" feeling that some of these post interject... especially when people say... right i am off.. found someone! and then slink back in if it doesn't work out....... Yes - although it's not the personal relationships I'm bothered about as I'm not interested in them and nobody should ever be resentful if people move on - good for them. What I don't like is the 'I'd like to fuck you - but if I was in your position I wouldn't ever do what you're doing' thing." Surely that's just a preference that should be respected. | |||
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"I've got no problems with anybody, single, married, male or female being on a sex site. I do however have a problem with two faced people who are happy to shag someone but wouldn't let them near their own partners. " This is pretty much how We feel. We would never meet anyone with this attitude. | |||
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"and that is what makes people feel uneasy... the "oh your good enough for now... but be damned when I find someone" feeling that some of these post interject... especially when people say... right i am off.. found someone! and then slink back in if it doesn't work out....... Yes - although it's not the personal relationships I'm bothered about as I'm not interested in them and nobody should ever be resentful if people move on - good for them. What I don't like is the 'I'd like to fuck you - but if I was in your position I wouldn't ever do what you're doing' thing. Surely that's just a preference that should be respected. " I don't understand? I'm not talking about anybody's preference, just attitudes. | |||
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"I've got no problems with anybody, single, married, male or female being on a sex site. I do however have a problem with two faced people who are happy to shag someone but wouldn't let them near their own partners. " It depends on the reasoning for that for me, if they are single, enjoy threesomes etc but knew they just wouldn't enjoy watching a partner have sex with somebody else that's fine, if its because they feel they wouldn't need to because their relationship would be so fulfilling they 'wouldn't need to have sex with others' then I have an issue | |||
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" Putting aside the childish 'childish' remark... you nonetheless illustrate my point with "When I love, I don't even look at other men let alone want them. " How could you possibly ever know in advance whether a loving relationship you may have in the future could lead to swinging? Unless you have taken a stance that you would never allow it to. In which case I can only see that it is a decision based on your regard for it. " But can you not just accept my statement that that is not so!! I have not 'taken a decision' I simply 'know myself' so well, I know what I want and what turns me on! My feelings have been totally constant for the last 40 years and I have no reason to think they will change, they are a fundamental part of my character, not any decision. I strongly DESIRE the intensity and exclusivity, it trips my trigger, and I am as strongly turned off by a lack of it. It's a no brainer for me. | |||
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" If people don't feel they are swingers themselves and use the site for different things, I see no problem with that at all. We can all get along fine with our many different kinks/ wants/ needs. If those people are dismissive/ rude about people that do swing, I don't think this is the site for them. " Just to clarify, I didn't say people shouldn't be on the site..... it was more I wonder why they are here when they have formed such judgments of swingers. | |||
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" If people don't feel they are swingers themselves and use the site for different things, I see no problem with that at all. We can all get along fine with our many different kinks/ wants/ needs. If those people are dismissive/ rude about people that do swing, I don't think this is the site for them. Just to clarify, I didn't say people shouldn't be on the site..... it was more I wonder why they are here when they have formed such judgments of swingers." | |||
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"I think its easier when two singles meet on here and become a couple. Especially if they are open minded and love the lifestyle anyway " | |||
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" If people don't feel they are swingers themselves and use the site for different things, I see no problem with that at all. We can all get along fine with our many different kinks/ wants/ needs. If those people are dismissive/ rude about people that do swing, I don't think this is the site for them. " Exactly, and I for one have never said a word against swingers, each to his own. | |||
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" If people don't feel they are swingers themselves and use the site for different things, I see no problem with that at all. We can all get along fine with our many different kinks/ wants/ needs. If those people are dismissive/ rude about people that do swing, I don't think this is the site for them. Just to clarify, I didn't say people shouldn't be on the site..... it was more I wonder why they are here when they have formed such judgments of swingers." Apologies, I did know what you meant and I was agreeing with that. I didn't say they shouldn't be on here, I meant I didn't think it's the right site for them. | |||
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"I'm just a woman who likes a variety of cock from time to time Me too, among other things " I like pussy too, just get more cock than pussy | |||
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" If people don't feel they are swingers themselves and use the site for different things, I see no problem with that at all. We can all get along fine with our many different kinks/ wants/ needs. If those people are dismissive/ rude about people that do swing, I don't think this is the site for them. Just to clarify, I didn't say people shouldn't be on the site..... it was more I wonder why they are here when they have formed such judgments of swingers. Apologies, I did know what you meant and I was agreeing with that. I didn't say they shouldn't be on here, I meant I didn't think it's the right site for them. " Don't be daft, no need to apologise, I just wanted to clarify just incase. | |||
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"I think it was a really interesting thread that still had plenty of discussion in it... so here's part 2.... This was the original post: "Hey just wondering for those who are single and on here, if you had a partner or were married would you consider being a swinger. I for one would never swing with someone I was in a relationship with. I get it works for others but I just can't see myself enjoying seeing a partner with other people. So my question is to all the single people. Would you be a swinger when in a relationship?" " Don't think I actually ansered this. If I was in a new relationship I am 99% sure I wouldn't want it to be a swinging relationship. I don't look down or disrespect swingers at all, or feel that I have any kind of control over a future partner. I just know I wouldn't want that kind of reltionship in the future. | |||
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" If people don't feel they are swingers themselves and use the site for different things, I see no problem with that at all. We can all get along fine with our many different kinks/ wants/ needs. If those people are dismissive/ rude about people that do swing, I don't think this is the site for them. Just to clarify, I didn't say people shouldn't be on the site..... it was more I wonder why they are here when they have formed such judgments of swingers. Apologies, I did know what you meant and I was agreeing with that. I didn't say they shouldn't be on here, I meant I didn't think it's the right site for them. Don't be daft, no need to apologise, I just wanted to clarify just incase. " I was just clarifying too. x | |||
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" If people don't feel they are swingers themselves and use the site for different things, I see no problem with that at all. We can all get along fine with our many different kinks/ wants/ needs. If those people are dismissive/ rude about people that do swing, I don't think this is the site for them. Just to clarify, I didn't say people shouldn't be on the site..... it was more I wonder why they are here when they have formed such judgments of swingers. Apologies, I did know what you meant and I was agreeing with that. I didn't say they shouldn't be on here, I meant I didn't think it's the right site for them. Don't be daft, no need to apologise, I just wanted to clarify just incase. I was just clarifying too. x" This could be a long night | |||
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" Putting aside the childish 'childish' remark... you nonetheless illustrate my point with "When I love, I don't even look at other men let alone want them. " How could you possibly ever know in advance whether a loving relationship you may have in the future could lead to swinging? Unless you have taken a stance that you would never allow it to. In which case I can only see that it is a decision based on your regard for it. But can you not just accept my statement that that is not so!! I have not 'taken a decision' I simply 'know myself' so well, I know what I want and what turns me on! My feelings have been totally constant for the last 40 years and I have no reason to think they will change, they are a fundamental part of my character, not any decision. I strongly DESIRE the intensity and exclusivity, it trips my trigger, and I am as strongly turned off by a lack of it. It's a no brainer for me." Whether I accept it is of no relevance, I'm in no way instructing what people can and can't do - I'm exchanging _iewpoints. I've lost track a bit so possibly you've already covered this, but I'm guessing that you don't use the site to swing but use it to meet men for casual sex? Nonetheless I go back to my previous point that I understand perfectly well that people can consider swinging as an activity they don't want to do - I did too. But our relationship eventually led us here completely unplanned and unforeseen. I think it is naive to assume no future relationship could do likewise, unless you are adamant to ensure it wouldn't. Again that's a decision anybody is entitled to make - but I don't understand why somebody so against it would join a community of people doing it. | |||
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"I've got no problems with anybody, single, married, male or female being on a sex site. I do however have a problem with two faced people who are happy to shag someone but wouldn't let them near their own partners. " I agree. | |||
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"I've got no problems with anybody, single, married, male or female being on a sex site. I do however have a problem with two faced people who are happy to shag someone but wouldn't let them near their own partners. I agree. " If other people are happy with that then surely that's their choice. Personally if I were going to swing as a couple it would be full swap. Or full bi swap | |||
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"I've got no problems with anybody, single, married, male or female being on a sex site. I do however have a problem with two faced people who are happy to shag someone but wouldn't let them near their own partners. I agree. If other people are happy with that then surely that's their choice. Personally if I were going to swing as a couple it would be full swap. Or full bi swap " I don't mean the ones that play differently it the ones that won't LET others near their partners. Those dynamics don't work for me. | |||
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""I've lost track a bit so possibly you've already covered this, but I'm guessing that you don't use the site to swing but use it to meet men for casual sex?" This is what I use the site for. It works very well for me. I don't interfere with the couples who want to find their partners and I expect them to not interfere in mine. If the site was for couples only I wouldn't have joined" | |||
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"not sure tbh very few single females on here looking to play without partners consent but we re open minded on this I am sorry... this one made me choke on some perfectly good alcohol then........ maybe not as many as men playing away, but from my inbox there are a fair few women who do....." Off thread Scarlet (sorry) but I couldn't find the thread I wanted to. Fabio. If you are still into your Radler, they had 4 bottles of the 2% stuff for £1.49 in Home Bargains yesterday | |||
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"Just read a few things the other day about Desire and the science behind why women lose interest in sex with a long term partner, it may not apply to all but if swinging keeps the relationship hot and with that spark that many miss, then why not. It takes an open mind to accept it and a lot more balls to go thru with it. I personally wouldn't swing with a girlfriend, a girl m8? Yes 100%....but with a partner I wouldn't until later in life." Do you think more women lose interest than men? I didn't,not even when I was pregnant or afterwards. I got more tired but I still wanted sex and still desired my husband | |||
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"Well I thought men did to be honest with you, cos we all grow up with 'spreading our seed' mentality, but in reality women do, there's a lot more to women sexuality than most men and women know, I think everyone here should t least read 'what do women want - adventures in the science of women desire' by Daniel Bergner. A massive eye opener. But like you said, u didn't lose it, everyone is different, it's all about hormones firing up at the right time, your husband is a lucky guy! . " Was a lucky guy. How do you know this scientific adventure is accurate? I'd have to read it before I can comment myself | |||
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"Was* It wasn't him doing the studies, it was a woman doing studies on women, it's a very interesting read for anyone interested in women's sexuality. " oh right. Why didn't she write the book then? Lol I might read it but I'm only really interested in my own sexuality. I can't be worrying about others | |||
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"Haha, because she did (still does) the science bit and he did the writing and research bit for other studies and historical references. I know what you are saying, looking out for number one! But you never know there are some real stories in the book that you may relate to somewhat, told by women who try to understand why things that are 'socially' unacceptable a turn on. " Having read a few re_iews, synopsis and extracts etc, I don't think a lot of the women here would be very surprised by much in the book at all!! | |||
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"Its mainly for us men. In this case ignorance is not a bliss." Ah yes, all the men should read all the books, haha!! | |||
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"I mainly read it because I love women, I love every bit of a woman, and wanted to find what really goes on in your heads when it comes to your sexuality, now all of you girls on this site are open to sex but what about normal girls that we find in the outside fab world? Women are just as bad as men but hide it pretty well sometimes even from themselves. " Some are some aren't. I am often astonished by how little women of a certain age I talk to desire sex! But yes, those of us who are into it are so just a much as men. | |||
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