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"Can't stand coppers in real life, they are evil , sly and spend their whole existence just trying to fuck up people's lives. The only time you see them round here is when they are squatting in a bush pointing a speed gun at you " I love that. Maybe, just maybe, if you tried not breaking the law, or speeding you'd never have to cross paths with them. Just a thought. | |||
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"Can't stand coppers in real life, they are evil , sly and spend their whole existence just trying to fuck up people's lives. The only time you see them round here is when they are squatting in a bush pointing a speed gun at you " Yes the devil reincarnate, who try their best to keep us from chaos, and twats who break the law. When you need one you will appreciate them? | |||
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"Can't stand coppers in real life, they are evil , sly and spend their whole existence just trying to fuck up people's lives. The only time you see them round here is when they are squatting in a bush pointing a speed gun at you I love that. Maybe, just maybe, if you tried not breaking the law, or speeding you'd never have to cross paths with them. Just a thought. " Completely agree | |||
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"Can't stand coppers in real life, they are evil , sly and spend their whole existence just trying to fuck up people's lives. The only time you see them round here is when they are squatting in a bush pointing a speed gun at you " They're only doing their job's | |||
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"I drove through a local village tonight at 21.45 and there was 4 of them all hiding up and one with a speed gun . One why does it take four of them and two why are they speed trapping at quarter to ten it's hardly the height of children's playtime on the streets surely there is something more worthwhile they could be doing" Yeah coz stopping people from speeding and killing someone or themselves/ getting into an accident isn't worthwhile enough! | |||
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"Can't stand coppers in real life, they are evil , sly and spend their whole existence just trying to fuck up people's lives. The only time you see them round here is when they are squatting in a bush pointing a speed gun at you They're only doing their job's Maybe if they did something worthwhile like getting things back from a pikey site when you have told them Damn well it's where you stuff went but they won't because they are scared of them . They don't demand any respect anymore . They are just revenue making tools who we have to pay for " Well why should they get your stuff back???? Get it yourself! | |||
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"I spent a night in a cell for telling a copper he was only a copper cos macdonalds didnt want him" have to use that one | |||
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"So if all of you have said negative things about the police where being attacked or your house was burgled you wouldnt call the police i presume" In a word....no The only reason you need them if you house gets robbed is for a crime number for insurance purposes otherwise they don't do anything... | |||
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"So if all of you have said negative things about the police where being attacked or your house was burgled you wouldnt call the police i presume In a word....no The only reason you need them if you house gets robbed is for a crime number for insurance purposes otherwise they don't do anything..." so you wont be calling them for anything? | |||
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"So if all of you have said negative things about the police where being attacked or your house was burgled you wouldnt call the police i presume In a word....no The only reason you need them if you house gets robbed is for a crime number for insurance purposes otherwise they don't do anything...so you wont be calling them for anything?" No the one time I did they were usless so I wouldn't waste my time or tax payers (me) money. | |||
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"So if all of you have said negative things about the police where being attacked or your house was burgled you wouldnt call the police i presume In a word....no The only reason you need them if you house gets robbed is for a crime number for insurance purposes otherwise they don't do anything..." | |||
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"Fuck, fuck, fuck da police " Woop woop! It's da sound of da police | |||
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"Fuck, fuck, fuck da police Woop woop! It's da sound of da police " Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? | |||
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"Fuck, fuck, fuck da police Woop woop! It's da sound of da police Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? " de do do do de dada da oh fuck thats the other ones isnt it | |||
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"I fucked a policewoman once, just to get my own back !" Did you prematurely ejaculate then tell her she's an emergency service so she should have cum quick!? | |||
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"I think some people have unrealistic expectations perhaps from watching too many TV shows. They're not miracle workers and can't just pluck evidence out of thin air. Suspecting and proving are two very different things" I don't dispute that, however I feel they are more about income generation than public protection these days just my opinion As I said in my original post I may have a warped view from my Dad being at Hillsborough.....the biggest police cover up in British History! | |||
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"I think some people have unrealistic expectations perhaps from watching too many TV shows. They're not miracle workers and can't just pluck evidence out of thin air. Suspecting and proving are two very different things I don't dispute that, however I feel they are more about income generation than public protection these days just my opinion As I said in my original post I may have a warped view from my Dad being at Hillsborough.....the biggest police cover up in British History! " You might want to look at he police service in northern Ireland when talking about police cover ups before you start making Ludacris claims! | |||
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"I think some people have unrealistic expectations perhaps from watching too many TV shows. They're not miracle workers and can't just pluck evidence out of thin air. Suspecting and proving are two very different things I don't dispute that, however I feel they are more about income generation than public protection these days just my opinion As I said in my original post I may have a warped view from my Dad being at Hillsborough.....the biggest police cover up in British History! " followed by steven lawrence farce its very sad that the police are tarnished over and over by many scandals that keep coming out | |||
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"This was the episode about the dog handlers right, what a lovely job driving around all day in your own van catching scrotes and letting the dog bite them. That's job satisfaction" I'd love to do the job purely so I could hang out with a dog all day, doesn't matter if I don't catch any baddies | |||
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"Anybody else watching? Wish I had their job!" I caught bits of it and no I wouldn't want to do it. | |||
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"Always wanted to do it but there's no jobs in my area currently" As I understand it they prefer you to live in one area and work in another. It might be worth you looking at availability in neighbouring areas if your really interested. | |||
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"I think some people have unrealistic expectations perhaps from watching too many TV shows. They're not miracle workers and can't just pluck evidence out of thin air. Suspecting and proving are two very different things I don't dispute that, however I feel they are more about income generation than public protection these days just my opinion As I said in my original post I may have a warped view from my Dad being at Hillsborough.....the biggest police cover up in British History! You might want to look at he police service in northern Ireland when talking about police cover ups before you start making Ludacris claims!" Not a ludicrous claim at all Northern Ireland was a 'war' over a long period of time with numerous incidents. Slightly different than one incident of people going to a football match dying then being denegrated as robbers and d*unks for the next 20 years!! Both terrible things but extremely differnt..... | |||
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" I'd love to do the job purely so I could hang out with a dog all day, doesn't matter if I don't catch any baddies " Aww I know what you mean it would be lovely wouldn't it. They all loved thier dogs didn't they. | |||
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"Always wanted to do it but there's no jobs in my area currently As I understand it they prefer you to live in one area and work in another. It might be worth you looking at availability in neighbouring areas if your really interested. " It's Lancashire section so it covers the whole of Lancashire and there is nothing, nothing on the site or twatter, so will have to speak to the PCSO I know | |||
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" I'd love to do the job purely so I could hang out with a dog all day, doesn't matter if I don't catch any baddies Aww I know what you mean it would be lovely wouldn't it. They all loved thier dogs didn't they. " Yeah! I teared up when the guy mentioned about his past dogs and I liked the fact that at work they were a colleague and at home they were apart of the family, not just a pet but also a best friend. Damn it I wish my Sheba was here now | |||
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" I'd love to do the job purely so I could hang out with a dog all day, doesn't matter if I don't catch any baddies Aww I know what you mean it would be lovely wouldn't it. They all loved thier dogs didn't they. " Especially the one that left his dogs in the back of his van with no air con on for the dog to die, not once but twice... Probably not in the program though. Too many police are corrupt, too many of their colleagues cover up for them when they are brought to light. | |||
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"I think some people have unrealistic expectations perhaps from watching too many TV shows. They're not miracle workers and can't just pluck evidence out of thin air. Suspecting and proving are two very different things I don't dispute that, however I feel they are more about income generation than public protection these days just my opinion As I said in my original post I may have a warped view from my Dad being at Hillsborough.....the biggest police cover up in British History! You might want to look at he police service in northern Ireland when talking about police cover ups before you start making Ludacris claims! Not a ludicrous claim at all Northern Ireland was a 'war' over a long period of time with numerous incidents. Slightly different than one incident of people going to a football match dying then being denegrated as robbers and d*unks for the next 20 years!! Both terrible things but extremely differnt....." I think you might want to go back and understand history in Northern Ireland slightly more. I dont mean to be cheeky but your views are slightly warped we personally prefer " the troubles" . Your just completely encapsulated by the whole event I agree It was an awful tragedy and extremely sad | |||
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"You generally find criminals hate the police. People that have had no dealings with them respect what they do. Then there are victims of crime that needed them but were no help find them useless. I am the latter and put in a complaint about one female officer for not listening to me or taking me seriously and told me she had better things to do then deal with a domestic between my neighbour and myself. Baring in mind this neighbour made my life miserable for years and I now finally have a court ordered injunction on her. " People who have had no dealings with the police respect what they do, probably because they haven't got a clue what they do... Do you think Ian Thomlinson was deserving of his treatment? Do you think it was right that the police officer got away with killing an innocent man going about his lawful business? Cover ups, pleb gate. The PC's on the ground at Hillsborough if still in the force are now the high ranking officers, honest as the day is long... | |||
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" Maybe if they did something worthwhile like getting things back from a pikey site when you have told them Damn well it's where you stuff went but they won't because they are scared of them . They don't demand any respect anymore . They are just revenue making tools who we have to pay for " Pikey is a racist term, did you use it to describe to the police where the stolen items were? | |||
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"I think some people have unrealistic expectations perhaps from watching too many TV shows. They're not miracle workers and can't just pluck evidence out of thin air. Suspecting and proving are two very different things I don't dispute that, however I feel they are more about income generation than public protection these days just my opinion As I said in my original post I may have a warped view from my Dad being at Hillsborough.....the biggest police cover up in British History! You might want to look at he police service in northern Ireland when talking about police cover ups before you start making Ludacris claims! Not a ludicrous claim at all Northern Ireland was a 'war' over a long period of time with numerous incidents. Slightly different than one incident of people going to a football match dying then being denegrated as robbers and d*unks for the next 20 years!! Both terrible things but extremely differnt..... I think you might want to go back and understand history in Northern Ireland slightly more. I dont mean to be cheeky but your views are slightly warped we personally prefer " the troubles" . Your just completely encapsulated by the whole event I agree It was an awful tragedy and extremely sad " I did start off saying my view maybe slighly warped. Apologies for wrong terminology I stand corrected I think we both have a very personal view point on these issues by way of geography among other thing. I think we can both agree that both things were a disgrace on the part of the police force and government...am I right? | |||
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"Like in every profession, some good some bad. Its the way of the world" It's the way the so called good cover up for though bad though. Being a police officer is not just a job or profession. They need to be whiter than white to have credibility. Their decisions in the workplace can have a huge impact on peoples lives, and the bad apples should be rooted out mercilessly, not covered up. | |||
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"You generally find criminals hate the police. People that have had no dealings with them respect what they do. Then there are victims of crime that needed them but were no help find them useless. I am the latter and put in a complaint about one female officer for not listening to me or taking me seriously and told me she had better things to do then deal with a domestic between my neighbour and myself. Baring in mind this neighbour made my life miserable for years and I now finally have a court ordered injunction on her. People who have had no dealings with the police respect what they do, probably because they haven't got a clue what they do... Do you think Ian Thomlinson was deserving of his treatment? Do you think it was right that the police officer got away with killing an innocent man going about his lawful business? Cover ups, pleb gate. The PC's on the ground at Hillsborough if still in the force are now the high ranking officers, honest as the day is long..." Don't believe I mentioned any specifics except my experience so your comment is pointless. I didn't say anything about treatment of people or cover ups and bent coppers | |||
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"Like in every profession, some good some bad. Its the way of the world It's the way the so called good cover up for though bad though. Being a police officer is not just a job or profession. They need to be whiter than white to have credibility. Their decisions in the workplace can have a huge impact on peoples lives, and the bad apples should be rooted out mercilessly, not covered up." | |||
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"I think some people have unrealistic expectations perhaps from watching too many TV shows. They're not miracle workers and can't just pluck evidence out of thin air. Suspecting and proving are two very different things I don't dispute that, however I feel they are more about income generation than public protection these days just my opinion As I said in my original post I may have a warped view from my Dad being at Hillsborough.....the biggest police cover up in British History! You might want to look at he police service in northern Ireland when talking about police cover ups before you start making Ludacris claims! Not a ludicrous claim at all Northern Ireland was a 'war' over a long period of time with numerous incidents. Slightly different than one incident of people going to a football match dying then being denegrated as robbers and d*unks for the next 20 years!! Both terrible things but extremely differnt..... I think you might want to go back and understand history in Northern Ireland slightly more. I dont mean to be cheeky but your views are slightly warped we personally prefer " the troubles" . Your just completely encapsulated by the whole event I agree It was an awful tragedy and extremely sad I did start off saying my view maybe slighly warped. Apologies for wrong terminology I stand corrected I think we both have a very personal view point on these issues by way of geography among other thing. I think we can both agree that both things were a disgrace on the part of the police force and government...am I right? " Yes our geographical locations do play a big impact on our views. Yes both things definitely were a huge disgrace. Now lets high five and meet im kidding, good small debate, I like it | |||
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"I think some people have unrealistic expectations perhaps from watching too many TV shows. They're not miracle workers and can't just pluck evidence out of thin air. Suspecting and proving are two very different things I don't dispute that, however I feel they are more about income generation than public protection these days just my opinion As I said in my original post I may have a warped view from my Dad being at Hillsborough.....the biggest police cover up in British History! You might want to look at he police service in northern Ireland when talking about police cover ups before you start making Ludacris claims! Not a ludicrous claim at all Northern Ireland was a 'war' over a long period of time with numerous incidents. Slightly different than one incident of people going to a football match dying then being denegrated as robbers and d*unks for the next 20 years!! Both terrible things but extremely differnt..... I think you might want to go back and understand history in Northern Ireland slightly more. I dont mean to be cheeky but your views are slightly warped we personally prefer " the troubles" . Your just completely encapsulated by the whole event I agree It was an awful tragedy and extremely sad I did start off saying my view maybe slighly warped. Apologies for wrong terminology I stand corrected I think we both have a very personal view point on these issues by way of geography among other thing. I think we can both agree that both things were a disgrace on the part of the police force and government...am I right? Yes our geographical locations do play a big impact on our views. Yes both things definitely were a huge disgrace. Now lets high five and meet im kidding, good small debate, I like it " Glad we can agree haha it's my first time on the forums and I'm debating already....may have to reign myself in I like it too | |||
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"You generally find criminals hate the police. People that have had no dealings with them respect what they do. Then there are victims of crime that needed them but were no help find them useless. I am the latter and put in a complaint about one female officer for not listening to me or taking me seriously and told me she had better things to do then deal with a domestic between my neighbour and myself. Baring in mind this neighbour made my life miserable for years and I now finally have a court ordered injunction on her. People who have had no dealings with the police respect what they do, probably because they haven't got a clue what they do... Do you think Ian Thomlinson was deserving of his treatment? Do you think it was right that the police officer got away with killing an innocent man going about his lawful business? Cover ups, pleb gate. The PC's on the ground at Hillsborough if still in the force are now the high ranking officers, honest as the day is long... Don't believe I mentioned any specifics except my experience so your comment is pointless. I didn't say anything about treatment of people or cover ups and bent coppers" Sorry, the second paragraph wasn't aimed at you, just got a bit carried away with a rant. | |||
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"I think some people have unrealistic expectations perhaps from watching too many TV shows. They're not miracle workers and can't just pluck evidence out of thin air. Suspecting and proving are two very different things I don't dispute that, however I feel they are more about income generation than public protection these days just my opinion As I said in my original post I may have a warped view from my Dad being at Hillsborough.....the biggest police cover up in British History! You might want to look at he police service in northern Ireland when talking about police cover ups before you start making Ludacris claims! Not a ludicrous claim at all Northern Ireland was a 'war' over a long period of time with numerous incidents. Slightly different than one incident of people going to a football match dying then being denegrated as robbers and d*unks for the next 20 years!! Both terrible things but extremely differnt..... I think you might want to go back and understand history in Northern Ireland slightly more. I dont mean to be cheeky but your views are slightly warped we personally prefer " the troubles" . Your just completely encapsulated by the whole event I agree It was an awful tragedy and extremely sad I did start off saying my view maybe slighly warped. Apologies for wrong terminology I stand corrected I think we both have a very personal view point on these issues by way of geography among other thing. I think we can both agree that both things were a disgrace on the part of the police force and government...am I right? Yes our geographical locations do play a big impact on our views. Yes both things definitely were a huge disgrace. Now lets high five and meet im kidding, good small debate, I like it Glad we can agree haha it's my first time on the forums and I'm debating already....may have to reign myself in I like it too " Same really, on the midnight prowl | |||
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"I think some people have unrealistic expectations perhaps from watching too many TV shows. They're not miracle workers and can't just pluck evidence out of thin air. Suspecting and proving are two very different things I don't dispute that, however I feel they are more about income generation than public protection these days just my opinion As I said in my original post I may have a warped view from my Dad being at Hillsborough.....the biggest police cover up in British History! You might want to look at he police service in northern Ireland when talking about police cover ups before you start making Ludacris claims! Not a ludicrous claim at all Northern Ireland was a 'war' over a long period of time with numerous incidents. Slightly different than one incident of people going to a football match dying then being denegrated as robbers and d*unks for the next 20 years!! Both terrible things but extremely differnt..... I think you might want to go back and understand history in Northern Ireland slightly more. I dont mean to be cheeky but your views are slightly warped we personally prefer " the troubles" . Your just completely encapsulated by the whole event I agree It was an awful tragedy and extremely sad I did start off saying my view maybe slighly warped. Apologies for wrong terminology I stand corrected I think we both have a very personal view point on these issues by way of geography among other thing. I think we can both agree that both things were a disgrace on the part of the police force and government...am I right? Yes our geographical locations do play a big impact on our views. Yes both things definitely were a huge disgrace. Now lets high five and meet im kidding, good small debate, I like it Glad we can agree haha it's my first time on the forums and I'm debating already....may have to reign myself in I like it too Same really, on the midnight prowl " Ay ay happy hunting | |||
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"The biggest problem with the police is that their job is largely about protecting people's property...not people themselves. I think someone here said that the only people who have problems with the police are criminals...unfortunately that's not really true. The minute you start to join protests you quickly see another side of the police, a side with is deeply unjust and brutal. You also need to remember that a lot of us were criminalised in the 90's when it became illegal to go to parties. I remember going to one party at a private house. The police were driving around all over the place acting like they were in a war game in their big jeeps. We started walking in when there was a scream and a mass of people came running towards us. The idiots had thrown tear gas into the party to disperse it. That was when parties were illegal. They still are now...only nobody does them any more...so the 'no fun here' police won out with that one I was also unfortunate enough to decide to show my face at an Anti-capitalist demo one time when I lived in London...big mistake! The police kettled us in for 9 hours...even tourists and pregnant women were trapped in there because the only way the police would let anyone out was if they gave them all their personal details to put on their 'suspects list' and no fool was gonna do that. On the outside they seem respectable...but if you ever wander across that invisible line you'll suddenly discover how unjust they can be when the justice they're holding up is a crooked justice. That's my 2p " Well said | |||
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"I guess it's a bit like when you get an incompetent doctor and his collegues close ranks. Or when a priest abuses a child and the church hushes it up. " I very much doubt an incompetent doctor would be covered for very long. As for priests well if you had a child who was alleging to have been abused by a priest would you report it to the church or the police? Still doesn't excuse the police though. Two wrongs don't make a right as my old dad used to say... | |||
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"This was the episode about the dog handlers right, what a lovely job driving around all day in your own van catching scrotes and letting the dog bite them. That's job satisfaction" I think they got alot of satisfaction from that, according to what they said. I was a bit suprised how unfit they mostly were, but the dogs could do all the running. There are some great cops, though it does attract some people with questionable psychology for the role. Some good fucks out there - guess there are some on fab too | |||
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"This was the episode about the dog handlers right, what a lovely job driving around all day in your own van catching scrotes and letting the dog bite them. That's job satisfaction I think they got alot of satisfaction from that, according to what they said. I was a bit suprised how unfit they mostly were, but the dogs could do all the running. There are some great cops, though it does attract some people with questionable psychology for the role. Some good fucks out there - guess there are some on fab too " I've dated a few coppers and most of the ones I have met are stark raving mad | |||
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"So if all of you have said negative things about the police where being attacked or your house was burgled you wouldnt call the police i presume In a word....no The only reason you need them if you house gets robbed is for a crime number for insurance purposes otherwise they don't do anything...so you wont be calling them for anything? No the one time I did they were usless so I wouldn't waste my time or tax payers (me) money." Funny! I was burgled a few years back. The police arrived, along with a forensics team - took statements, waited til the glazing company made the house secure and left promising regular updates. Two days later they called to say some of my goods had been located at the local cash converters and CCTV in store had given them a lead. Two more days later they kicked the door in of a local scumbag at 6am on a Sunday - found more of my stuff along with goods from other victims - and a month later he got 5 years. Yeah. The police never do anything! A | |||
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"You generally find criminals hate the police. People that have had no dealings with them respect what they do. Then there are victims of crime that needed them but were no help find them useless. I am the latter and put in a complaint about one female officer for not listening to me or taking me seriously and told me she had better things to do then deal with a domestic between my neighbour and myself. Baring in mind this neighbour made my life miserable for years and I now finally have a court ordered injunction on her. People who have had no dealings with the police respect what they do, probably because they haven't got a clue what they do... Do you think Ian Thomlinson was deserving of his treatment? Do you think it was right that the police officer got away with killing an innocent man going about his lawful business? Cover ups, pleb gate. The PC's on the ground at Hillsborough if still in the force are now the high ranking officers, honest as the day is long... Don't believe I mentioned any specifics except my experience so your comment is pointless. I didn't say anything about treatment of people or cover ups and bent coppers Sorry, the second paragraph wasn't aimed at you, just got a bit carried away with a rant. " Haha we all have are moments Apology excepted | |||
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"So if all of you have said negative things about the police where being attacked or your house was burgled you wouldnt call the police i presume In a word....no The only reason you need them if you house gets robbed is for a crime number for insurance purposes otherwise they don't do anything...so you wont be calling them for anything? No the one time I did they were usless so I wouldn't waste my time or tax payers (me) money. Funny! I was burgled a few years back. The police arrived, along with a forensics team - took statements, waited til the glazing company made the house secure and left promising regular updates. Two days later they called to say some of my goods had been located at the local cash converters and CCTV in store had given them a lead. Two more days later they kicked the door in of a local scumbag at 6am on a Sunday - found more of my stuff along with goods from other victims - and a month later he got 5 years. Yeah. The police never do anything! A" Possibly to do with where you are. I go to Suffolk a lot and the police dont have much to do there. Not the same in bigger cities. | |||
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"Can't stand coppers in real life, they are evil , sly and spend their whole existence just trying to fuck up people's lives. The only time you see them round here is when they are squatting in a bush pointing a speed gun at you They're only doing their job's Maybe if they did something worthwhile like getting things back from a pikey site when you have told them Damn well it's where you stuff went but they won't because they are scared of them . They don't demand any respect anymore . They are just revenue making tools who we have to pay for Well why should they get your stuff back???? Get it yourself!" You would make an excellent copper that's the sort of stupid thing I would expect one of them to say! If I went to get my stuff back from a " travellers" site I would probably be the one that ended up being arrested! Oh and racist really!?!! Whatever | |||
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"So if all of you have said negative things about the police where being attacked or your house was burgled you wouldnt call the police i presume In a word....no The only reason you need them if you house gets robbed is for a crime number for insurance purposes otherwise they don't do anything...so you wont be calling them for anything? No the one time I did they were usless so I wouldn't waste my time or tax payers (me) money. Funny! I was burgled a few years back. The police arrived, along with a forensics team - took statements, waited til the glazing company made the house secure and left promising regular updates. Two days later they called to say some of my goods had been located at the local cash converters and CCTV in store had given them a lead. Two more days later they kicked the door in of a local scumbag at 6am on a Sunday - found more of my stuff along with goods from other victims - and a month later he got 5 years. Yeah. The police never do anything! A Possibly to do with where you are. I go to Suffolk a lot and the police dont have much to do there. Not the same in bigger cities. " London big enough for you? That's where I lived at the time! A | |||
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"The police actually get paid more than theose professions stated because overtime is such a massive part of the job. Over 35 quid an hour !! If you want to talk about underpaid and thankless jobs....look at the Prison Service" Hahaha come ask a cop in Scotland the last time they had overtime! And £35ph!!!! That's a new one. | |||
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"Without the police we would have anarchy and viligantes roaming the streets like packs of feral dogs demanding retribution against people were there is only hearsay evidence from some boke down the pub named dave." Being something of an anarchist, in the true sense of the word, I'm not so certain. We are told that if the government or the police weren't here everything would descend into chaos and thugs would roam the streets. But we have to ask ourselves a couple of questions. Firstly...is the apparatus of control better than the chaos it has replaced. Or, as I put it to a woman I once knew "If you've got nothing to hide why would you have a problem with me stalking you" lol Just a joke obviously...but the point is the 'nothing to hide' vs 'totalitarian police state' argument is not a good one imo. Secondly we have to ask where the evidence of this underlying criminal element is. Surely the vast majority of us are quite happy living modest lives without pissing people off? Yes there is a rogue element in society. But the idea that they would swamp us is probably wrong. We may be able to manage them differently. For example if our society was more interconnected and less isolated pockets of nuclear families we'd be able to phone their mums and shame them into giving back their loot. (lol not kidding this actually happened to me and I got it all back) Not saying everyone would be that easy...but there might be a better way than our current system of prisons etc. Some criminals are just people in need...others are obviously tossers...but some aren't...they've just got problems that need some attention. Obviously my anarchism is based upon the notion that human nature is basically good. This is something I'm sticking to for now...even though my time on these forums has eroded it considerably lol Actually...on that note...you'll never guess what I heard from this bloke down the pub named dave | |||
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"Without the police we would have anarchy and viligantes roaming the streets like packs of feral dogs demanding retribution against people were there is only hearsay evidence from some boke down the pub named dave. Being something of an anarchist, in the true sense of the word, I'm not so certain. We are told that if the government or the police weren't here everything would descend into chaos and thugs would roam the streets. But we have to ask ourselves a couple of questions. Firstly...is the apparatus of control better than the chaos it has replaced. Or, as I put it to a woman I once knew "If you've got nothing to hide why would you have a problem with me stalking you" lol Just a joke obviously...but the point is the 'nothing to hide' vs 'totalitarian police state' argument is not a good one imo. Secondly we have to ask where the evidence of this underlying criminal element is. Surely the vast majority of us are quite happy living modest lives without pissing people off? Yes there is a rogue element in society. But the idea that they would swamp us is probably wrong. We may be able to manage them differently. For example if our society was more interconnected and less isolated pockets of nuclear families we'd be able to phone their mums and shame them into giving back their loot. (lol not kidding this actually happened to me and I got it all back) Not saying everyone would be that easy...but there might be a better way than our current system of prisons etc. Some criminals are just people in need...others are obviously tossers...but some aren't...they've just got problems that need some attention. Obviously my anarchism is based upon the notion that human nature is basically good. This is something I'm sticking to for now...even though my time on these forums has eroded it considerably lol Actually...on that note...you'll never guess what I heard from this bloke down the pub named dave " i knew it bloody dave again i have had bad experiences with the police when i was younger however without them the place would decend into anarchy just look at the amount of looters that took advantage of an incident in tottenham in my home city of birmingham it was a joke. I always think the best of people however human nature is to survive by whatever means and if fred (daves mate is looting and robbing the haves) the dave rob and loot as well. We are not japan were there was no looting or robbing after the tsuanmi compare that to what happened in the land of the free USA after hurricane katrina, thats another daveism | |||
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"Can't stand coppers in real life, they are evil , sly and spend their whole existence just trying to fuck up people's lives. The only time you see them round here is when they are squatting in a bush pointing a speed gun at you " what a load of BOLLOX!!! | |||
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"Can't stand coppers in real life, they are evil , sly and spend their whole existence just trying to fuck up people's lives. The only time you see them round here is when they are squatting in a bush pointing a speed gun at you I love that. Maybe, just maybe, if you tried not breaking the law, or speeding you'd never have to cross paths with them. Just a thought. " A side from when you're a victim or trying to prevent a crime.... They're equally useless then tbh | |||
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"Can't stand coppers in real life, they are evil , sly and spend their whole existence just trying to fuck up people's lives. The only time you see them round here is when they are squatting in a bush pointing a speed gun at you Yes the devil reincarnate, who try their best to keep us from chaos, and twats who break the law. When you need one you will appreciate them?" when you need one they are busy doing paperwork | |||
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"So if all of you have said negative things about the police where being attacked or your house was burgled you wouldnt call the police i presume In a word....no The only reason you need them if you house gets robbed is for a crime number for insurance purposes otherwise they don't do anything...so you wont be calling them for anything? No the one time I did they were usless so I wouldn't waste my time or tax payers (me) money. Funny! I was burgled a few years back. The police arrived, along with a forensics team - took statements, waited til the glazing company made the house secure and left promising regular updates. Two days later they called to say some of my goods had been located at the local cash converters and CCTV in store had given them a lead. Two more days later they kicked the door in of a local scumbag at 6am on a Sunday - found more of my stuff along with goods from other victims - and a month later he got 5 years. Yeah. The police never do anything! A" My motorbike got stolen after about 3 hours after reporting it a single copper turned up took some details then walked off (didn't even check local shops or anything for cctv) the next morning I get an email "due to lack of evidence we have decided not to proceed with the investigation at this tine" | |||
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"So if all of you have said negative things about the police where being attacked or your house was burgled you wouldnt call the police i presume In a word....no The only reason you need them if you house gets robbed is for a crime number for insurance purposes otherwise they don't do anything..." Correct.....twice I've needed them....once was in fact when I was burgled and yes all the use they were was for a crime number....nobbidy was caught and as far as I could tell very little action was taken bar attempting to lift some prints and secondly when I was in Sheffield a long time ago and my car was broken into....they wouldn't even attend that one...I was told over the phone there was nothing they could do and was given a crime number and left to it. I was hovever at glastonbudget festival the other week and there was a dog locked in a car...the police were in attendane....neither of the officers could get into the car to let the dog out while they tried to trace the owner so I managed to get in for them....therefore I have been more use to the police than they have to me.....I don't know how youb become an officer these days....I'm pretty sure you just have to collect tokens from frosties or something and send them off. | |||
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