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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just had my first real road rage experience I was just driving down the road as normal and some idiot just comes flying out of the side st how I missed him or how he missed me I have no idea I blasted my horn and flashed and the cheeky fuck wit gave me the wanker sign so I started to drive faster but as am in a van he left me behind a mile or so up the road his stuck at the light do I drive as fast as I can pull up at the side of him jump out and I have a bottle of water in my hand I run round the front he has his window open and I squirt the water right in his face while swearing my head off telling him to get out of the car he doesn't of course I grab him and he just starts to drive off so now am sat on a Tesco car park trying to calm down I have been here 20 mins WOW that wasn't good

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just had my first real road rage experience I was just driving down the road as normal and some idiot just comes flying out of the side st how I missed him or how he missed me I have no idea I blasted my horn and flashed and the cheeky fuck wit gave me the wanker sign so I started to drive faster but as am in a van he left me behind a mile or so up the road his stuck at the light do I drive as fast as I can pull up at the side of him jump out and I have a bottle of water in my hand I run round the front he has his window open and I squirt the water right in his face while swearing my head off telling him to get out of the car he doesn't of course I grab him and he just starts to drive off so now am sat on a Tesco car park trying to calm down I have been here 20 mins WOW that wasn't good

Oh good grief! I love the water bit good for you! What a twat!

Are you ok?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a stupid reaction. I hope you learn from it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and you have named yourself 'steady eddie'

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

Dont worry about it pal,no one was hurt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had an incident once with a boy racer. I met him later at a set of lights and got out and gave him verbal. It looked like he was about to cry. I felt awful afterwards.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Your telling me I have never done anything like that I thought my head was going to explode I wanted to kill him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your telling me I have never done anything like that I thought my head was going to explode I wanted to kill him

Learn to take satisfaction in laughing off the idiotic behaviour in others driving. You'll be amazed how much you get to have

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i got a punch in the face for calling someone that cut me up a cunt.

to this day i remember the wankers number plate.

road rage is the scurge of the roads.

one of our drivers got attacked just sunday night.

car pulled out of a street in front of him and slammed its brakes on.

he couldnt go anywhere.

he got out to remonstrate with the other driver who tried to kick him in the nuts.

fcuking joke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should've punched him. Job done then. You can calm down in nick!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Possible damage limitation comes to mind on the off chance he called the fuzz. It would be hard to deny the water but I would and admit to nothing as its impossible to prove either way unless there is cctv about. Worst case it could get you arrested and charged. Not a clever thing to do but its done now think on before repeating though as it can land you in hot water.

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

the bit that winds you up though is when they know they have done a stupid thing but insist on the finger or wanker sign.

if they would just raise their hand in a "sorry" gesture, it cools the whole situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

should take the licence off people who cant control themselves when in charge of a vehicle capable of killing, whatever the provocation.

sounds like you lost it and were more intent on getting him, what happens if you would have run into an innocent person when you were in your rage ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We had a road rage incident near where I used to live,someone ended up being stabbed to death in front of his girlfriend by a very well known criminal

I would just have let it pass

Calm down and don't be so quick to react to idiots the next time,it may be the last thing you do

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Am calm now getting my milk sugar puffs and bread thanks for the input people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Out of interest why would you hope that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You squirted water in someones face lol you are such a bad ass

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Reports my behaviour are you trying to wind me up this fella could of killed me IDIOT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Out of interest why would you hope that?"

I'd hope so too.

Nothing personal against the person here, who I'm sure regrets his behaviour. But to get out of a vehicle with the intention to assault somebody is the sort of thing that should be reported and if I were attacked in such a way I'd be grateful if somebody did report them.

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

Forget the folk that are tryin to make you feel bad to be honest it wasn't road rage it was road a bit angry but not enough to do damage. Relax.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You squirted water in someones face lol you are such a bad ass

Believe me I am I calm person normally I think I was drinking the water to calm me down I didn't even relies I had it in my had as I got out I wanted to kill him it's not good

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

"You squirted water in someones face lol you are such a bad ass

Believe me I am I calm person normally I think I was drinking the water to calm me down I didn't even relies I had it in my had as I got out I wanted to kill him it's not good

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wee tip dont carry any bottles of nitromors in your car and you will be fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You should be done for it as annoying as it it must be your actions maje you no better than the idiot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Out of interest why would you hope that?"

Because anyoine that is stupid/aggressive enough to chase down a car and then get out of their own vehicle to threaten the other driver is in no way the innocent victim and deserves to be prosecuted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You should be done for it as annoying as it it must be your actions maje you no better than the idiot."

I'd go as far as to say his behaviour was worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Out of interest why would you hope that?

Because anyoine that is stupid/aggressive enough to chase down a car and then get out of their own vehicle to threaten the other driver is in no way the innocent victim and deserves to be prosecuted."

Out of interest do you drive?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

" I wanted to kill him it's not good

Face palm time. So far, you've admitted common assault, assault and now you're showing the Mens Rea of a higher offence. I can understand being a bit hacked off at their driving, but odds bodkins, if you ever get arrested for anything, stay silent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You squirted water in someones face lol you are such a bad ass

Believe me I am I calm person normally I think I was drinking the water to calm me down I didn't even relies I had it in my had as I got out I wanted to kill him it's not good

Calm people don't "want to kill" people...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Out of interest why would you hope that?

Because anyoine that is stupid/aggressive enough to chase down a car and then get out of their own vehicle to threaten the other driver is in no way the innocent victim and deserves to be prosecuted.

Out of interest do you drive?"

Yes why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Out of interest why would you hope that?

Because anyoine that is stupid/aggressive enough to chase down a car and then get out of their own vehicle to threaten the other driver is in no way the innocent victim and deserves to be prosecuted.

Out of interest do you drive?

Yes why?"

Just curious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Out of interest why would you hope that?

An interesting way of looking at things and there is some merit although to say that a person is not an innocent victim is untrue and it looks like an inflammatory comment to gain a reaction by yourself if I am being honest.

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

Put snow patrol on and listen to

this isn't everything you are

dont keel over

now

breathe deeply in the silence

this isn't everything you are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You squirted water in someones face lol you are such a bad ass

Believe me I am I calm person normally I think I was drinking the water to calm me down I didn't even relies I had it in my had as I got out I wanted to kill him it's not good

What if you'd had a wrench in your hand?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Am going to be. driving home calm now people am logging off before I get banned for saying things I shouldn't to certain people

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Reports my behaviour are you trying to wind me up this fella could of killed me IDIOT "

Speaking as someone who's been run over by someone not paying attention to the road for a less adrenaline fuelled reason than you probably were whilst chasing this guy I'd just like to point out that he could have killed you but your behaviour could have also killed an entirely innocent bystander...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The defensive comments aren't surprising considering how many people act like complete assholes on the road.

After driving in countries that have no highway code and genuinely fearing death by driving I stopped cursing drivers in this country and now just slow down, smile and wave - especially the ones honking and flashing up my arse - although I've always liked that

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

There is a darkness deep in you

a frightening magic i cling to

just gimme somethin to hold on

just gimme somethin to hold on to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The defensive comments aren't surprising considering how many people act like complete assholes on the road.

This is so true

So lets take the cars out of the equation and recreate the scenario. OP is walking down the street and someone almost bumps in to him. OP's response is to give him a mouthful, other person gives him a mouthful back and tried to leave the scene. OP chases him, threatens him with violence and throws a drink over him... Because that is basically what happened and without cars the OP's behaviour would be universally condemned.

But because he was cut up and in a car his behaviour is somehow seen as justified.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The defensive comments aren't surprising considering how many people act like complete assholes on the road.

This is so true

But because he was cut up and in a car his behaviour is somehow seen as justified."

But somebody bumping in to you while walking down the street has very little chance of killing you.

Silly comparison.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all make mistakes while driving.

Shrug your shoulders, wipe your chin deep breath and carry on.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I think anyone who can't keep their temper while in charge of a ton of moving metal shouldn't be allowed to drive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just been reading on my local papers website that someone was arrested today after a road rage incident, he's being charged with attempted murder after stabbing him in the chest. There was a collision in Cornwall, and an arrest in Somerset. When you go chasing after people things get out of hand.

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

could

just

run

them

red

lights

x x X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's road rage and then there's complete disregard for other road users. Albeit for that small moment. But, those small moments are what changes the whole course of a person's life.

...just a generic comment. Not aimed at anyone.

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

Don't get Road rage.. Get EVEN !!!

We had some twat undertake us on the m5 one night.. we were in the first lane not the middle.. and then pulls on in front of us and brakes hard.. we swerved to avoid him and gave him some verbal - he gave some back and then just speeded off a bit into the distance - we could see him try this again to another car and we could just tell he was either trying to cause a rear shunt ( insurance ) or was looking for a Fight !!!

We called 999 and reported what we thought would be a Drink Driver at 2am on a very quiet motorway..

So folks - Keep a cheap pay and go £10 fone in your car and don't register it.. wait until some twat really annoys you so much that its just worth it ?? !!

Then use the phone to call the cops and report a suspected Drink-Driver or a gun in the car..

It really is amazing how quick that so many Police cars can appear from nowhere..

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

* Disclaimer *

The ABOVE Comment was Copied and pasted from the internet.. Honest..

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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago

Retirement Village

Not wise OP. Sorry to hear you got a numpty annoy you on the road but rising to the idiocy is losing the fight. Been driving up and down and cross country so much now it doesn't bother me.

Don't let the idiocy of the road get to you or sooner or later you'll find your licence taken and possibly worse a stop off at her majesty's pleasure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was a near miss, not an accident. You were justifiably angry, but I don't think that gives you the right to assault him. Fair enough, squirting water in his face probably wouldn't do any harm - unless he was wearing contact lenses that you may have dislodged, he could have been a tracheostomy patient (or "neckbreather") who could have suffered choking from water in the airway (my Father-in-law is one) and quite a few other conditions where water squirted into the face can cause immediate health problems. Perhaps just a good talking to next time, or let it slip and chalk it up to experience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't get Road rage.. Get EVEN !!!

We called 999 and reported what we thought would be a Drink Driver at 2am on a very quiet motorway..

So folks - Keep a cheap pay and go £10 fone in your car and don't register it.. wait until some twat really annoys you so much that its just worth it ?? !!

Then use the phone to call the cops and report a suspected Drink-Driver or a gun in the car..

It really is amazing how quick that so many Police cars can appear from nowhere..

So potentially getting someone shot is ok ?

I agree call the police, even saying you suspect someone is d*unk driving is acceptable. But saying someone is carrying a gun is just bonkers.

Waiting police time is quite a serious offence. But getting someone spread eagled on the ground with armed police surrounding them is just madness.

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

Thank god it wasn't Ribena, that would have really messed him up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't get Road rage.. Get EVEN !!!

We called 999 and reported what we thought would be a Drink Driver at 2am on a very quiet motorway..

So folks - Keep a cheap pay and go £10 fone in your car and don't register it.. wait until some twat really annoys you so much that its just worth it ?? !!

Then use the phone to call the cops and report a suspected Drink-Driver or a gun in the car..

It really is amazing how quick that so many Police cars can appear from nowhere..

So potentially getting someone shot is ok ?

I agree call the police, even saying you suspect someone is d*unk driving is acceptable. But saying someone is carrying a gun is just bonkers.

Waiting police time is quite a serious offence. But getting someone spread eagled on the ground with armed police surrounding them is just madness. "

So it wasn;t just me confused by that post then.

Call the police and tell them someone is driving recklessly/dangerously on a motorway and they will respond. I suspect they are a little more suspicious of unsubstantiated claims of a gun.

Anyone making a malicious call to the police even from an unregistered sim is playing a dangerous and stupid game

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forget the folk that are tryin to make you feel bad to be honest it wasn't road rage it was road a bit angry but not enough to do damage. Relax."

Agree. The other bloke deserved a smack in the chops though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forget the folk that are tryin to make you feel bad to be honest it wasn't road rage it was road a bit angry but not enough to do damage. Relax.

Agree. The other bloke deserved a smack in the chops though."

How do you know that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your reaction was born out of fright......which led to the fight response

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forget the folk that are tryin to make you feel bad to be honest it wasn't road rage it was road a bit angry but not enough to do damage. Relax.

Agree. The other bloke deserved a smack in the chops though."

So people who are deemed to be of a lesser standard if driving to yourself deserve to be punched ? How bizarre.

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

"Your reaction was born out of fright......which led to the fight response "

That is not how it works, the threat had gone but he chased after it. Fuck all to do with fight or flight. It was out and out road rage, no excuse whatsoever. And how would he have reacted got out of his car with a knife? Stupidity plain and simple.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

people make mistakes when driving, if you have not you will at some point..

anyone chasing down another road user as described by the OP needs to address their anger management..

cos sure as eggs is eggs it will happen again and the next time some poor innocent may be the victim..

not worth it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are but mere animals which really the law cannot always align with our actions as human nature and instinct is hard to fight and not always the "right" thing to do.

I had a major road rage incident where another driver ran me into some cones because he was so worried that I may get I front of him as one lane was shut off .. I pulled back out behind him stuck my fingers up and ranted a bit to which he jammed his anchors on as hard as possible and I hit him up the arse. Not hard but we collided I pointed for him to pull over but he wouldn't anyhow I overtook him called him a twat and carried on... Unfortunately for him when I was In tescos putting fuel in and looking at why my bonnet was a little up at the front he pulled In.... I won't go into details but the manager wanted to call the police so I waited for them as he was taken into a back room in the store.. 20mins later they still not turned up so I asked the manager where the old bill were and he said the other chap didn't want them to come , to which I replied of course he chuffin didn't (I had already demanded insurance details from him to which he wouldn't produce even though in the back of my mind I knew I hadn't a leg to stand on as I shunted him.) I said it's ok get him out here and we will sort it out. He wouldn't come out the coward. At the time I was pretty irrational and to be honest with you folks it was the last day I ever took citalopram for depression as I found they levelled me out but when I popped I really bloody popped and I'm not a thug or an idiot but that day had things gone different I would probably have been banged up .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your reaction was born out of fright......which led to the fight response

I didn't say flight I said fright.......a scare or fright can cause the fight reaction....I was not giving him an excuse I was making an observation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not sure whether i want to laugh or cry for you xxx

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Being out on the road is a great way to train yourself to react more appropriately to other idiots etc and their behaviour. Most of us have elevated stress levels, so what better place to master the skills of relaxation, when there is abundant opportunities to get more wound up etc. Stress is a killer, and most things really are not important. The best win is when others are ignored and you increase your relaxation. The more you do this, the easier it becomes - and after a while, just like driving, it becomes automatic and you dont need to think about it. And you keep your health and sanity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"people make mistakes when driving, if you have not you will at some point..

This is the true-ism I drive by, I know I have made mistakes, and got away with it because the other driver in my vicinity didn't also make a mistake. I make a concious effort to make up for my mistakes by avoiding others when they do something stupid...

OP's first error was to use the horn as a swear button, this fuelled the adrenalin which led to the consequent mistake of chasing an idiot.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

Evolution in action

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shit happens I don't know why people post it when it does. Well unless its for all the would be self-righteous ones to be able to put sarcastic comments on, far worse things will have happened in the last 24 hours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Shit happens I don't know why people post it when it does. Well unless its for all the would be self-righteous ones to be able to put sarcastic comments on, far worse things will have happened in the last 24 hours. "

But on the plus side the next 24 hours are going to be full of wonderful things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would just like to say. ...a similar thing once happened to us. A taxi driver went through a red light and smashed into the side of us - both of our (then very young children) in the car.

He later asked someone to lie for him - getting the facts wrong and proving himself even more of an irresponsible idiot.

Yes we all make mistakes but these kind of mistakes can have very serious consequences, I fully understand this anger and hope the idiot driver that pulled out thinks twice before being a cocky little prick again, driving like an arsehole and not having the decency to fucking apologise.

People like this should not be on the road in the first place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So basically some one cut you up so you decided to get in a high speed car chase. Then when you finally caught him you assaulted him and tried to drag him out of his car.

Then you come on a public forum and admit this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People like this should not be on the road in the first place."

Neither should idiots unable to contain their anger when somebody else dares to impede on 'their road'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People like this should not be on the road in the first place.

Neither should idiots unable to contain their anger when somebody else dares to impede on 'their road'."

I guess they should contain their anger when that same someone puts their life in danger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People like this should not be on the road in the first place.

Neither should idiots unable to contain their anger when somebody else dares to impede on 'their road'.

I guess they should contain their anger when that same someone puts their life in danger."

Yes - of course.

Like all these kinds of stories there is potentially another version of the truth. Perhaps one where an idiot was driving down a road too quickly, somebody pulled out not realising the person was approaching so quickly - then suffered that person honking their horn, flashing lights and then at the next junction was assaulted by them while unable to react due to being stuck in the car by their seatbelt. And so in fear of their safety accelerated away.

I'm not suggesting the original version is false - but it amuses me that some people jump to defend based only on one version, to get across how tough or 'badass' they think they are.

What we do know is that the person that started the discussion has admitted to having been out of control, having had a desire to inflict harm and having assaulted another driver. None of that is defendable. He can consider himself fortunate he wasn't greeted with a crowbar to the face and that instead the other driver sensibly drove away.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I wasn't driving irresponsibly I was driving at 30 mph when some idiot decides to come flying out of a side st with no thought what's so ever with what was coming just missing me because I slammed my breaks on this is when I blasted my horn and flashed to which he replied by giving me the wanker sign that when I put my foot down but me being in a van and him a Mercedes I wasn't catching him we are not talking about a young lad here this was a man between 30 and 40 years of age who should know better just like I should of

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not suggesting you weren't doing exactly as you say - I was drawing attention to some of the other comments.

I do wonder what would have happened if you'd been greeted by an elderly woman/pregnant woman/somebody with a weak heart - or somebody with a weapon.

Although a Mercedes driver puts a different perspective on things

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Not suggesting you weren't doing exactly as you say - I was drawing attention to some of the other comments.

I do wonder what would have happened if you'd been greeted by an elderly woman/pregnant woman/somebody with a weak heart - or somebody with a weapon.

Although a Mercedes driver puts a different perspective on things

I don't think I women would act in this way and an elderly person I probably would of just stopped in the road with shock

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

A friend of mine did the same thing but unfortunately the other fella got out of his car and smashed the life out of my mate, was in hospital for nearly 3 weeks.

I'm glad it worked out ok for you though, just be careful ! x

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

Van driver says it all. Hobby is tailgating

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Van driver says it all. Hobby is tailgating

Giver over I usually only drive the van twice a day too and from work I just couldn't be bothered to move the van to get the car out cheeky sod

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By *butCouple
over a year ago

Ashford

few years ago I was victim of road rage,this old fella forced me off the road was driving so fast he smashed both our mirrors to pieces, when I got out to have a word it became heated, ended up he stuck the nut on me,I was sorely tempted to batter him, but having my kids in car thought it would not be a good example to them.

Went to court, he was given a heavy fine, I got £300 damages, turns out he also had history of wife battering , genuinely nasty little man.

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By *awkeye and HotlipsCouple
over a year ago

Takeley

Got cut up by some nob in a BMW convertible ( other cars are available ), who, after I had made a genuine gesture, not rude, that he was perhaps not right in the head, proceeded to slow down, and get behind me ( it was the A41 dual carriageway) and tailgate me whilst shouting and gesticulating like a madman at me. He was so caught up in his tirade that he hadn't noticed me pull into a police station and stop. Got out of his car and continued.....only to realise where he was. I asked him if he wished to continue the conversation inside. He didn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think I women would act in this way"

Oh don't you believe it, women can be just as bad as men, I've nearly been knocked off my bike twice by women going to fast and not paying attention at junctions and round abouts.

Then there was a woman that had major rage at me cos I wasn't in a cycle lane. She was that busy shouting at me thru her window she actually nearly broad sided me.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

Behind a woman on motorway in stop start traffic in outside lane. When I changed lane for exit understood why she wasn't in sync with traffic. Reading notes on the steering wheel. Too shocked to honk horn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not singling out women drivers by any means, and as the OP has illustrated there are plenty of reckless and irresponsible men drivers on the road too.

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

A new up himself dentist annoyed me one day with his bad attitude.i was standing just outside the dentist building cursing him inside my head when a car with nobody in it slowly started moving backwards in the car park..it was on a slope so gradually picked up speed until it smashed into 2parked cars and a concrete post causing lots of damage before coming to a stop.everyone ran out of the near by shops and the dentist rushed past me towards the car with his hands on head cause it was his. .i looked up to the sky,and walked away with a big cheesey grin . .spooooky

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

I do wonder what would have happened if you'd been greeted by an elderly woman/pregnant woman/somebody with a weak heart - or somebody with a weapon.

Or a gremlin! As soon as the water hit it, he would have been overrun, with an army of the little critters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do wonder what would have happened if you'd been greeted by an elderly woman/pregnant woman/somebody with a weak heart - or somebody with a weapon.

Or a gremlin! As soon as the water hit it, he would have been overrun, with an army of the little critters. "

cute thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not singling out women drivers by any means, and as the OP has illustrated there are plenty of reckless and irresponsible men drivers on the road too. "

Nobody is innocent, some are a lot worse than others, but we all get in the car with the events of the day on us, so drive tired, stressed, angry, whatever distraction.. luckily there is room for that in the fact that the driver you pull out on, break late on etc. is hopefully in a relaxed and alert mood and will avoid the accident. When two or more inattentive drivers attempt to occupy the same space that's where pain and broken cars / people happen.

The problem with road rage is it often puts two people in the same space.

In my experience a horn is almost never used properly, it is supposed to only be sounded to warn someone of your presence before they do something stupid, but all to often it is used to call the other driver an idiot because you had to slow down / stop.

Seriously glad this one appears to have worked out OK and we are not down a fab member.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thank god it wasn't Ribena, that would have really messed him up. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thank god it wasn't Ribena, that would have really messed him up. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hard really to comment as I wasn't there unlike many others.

Chasing after people though is never a good idea although I can understand why people do it.

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over a year ago

"Just had my first real road rage experience I was just driving down the road as normal and some idiot just comes flying out of the side st how I missed him or how he missed me I have no idea I blasted my horn and flashed and the cheeky fuck wit gave me the wanker sign so I started to idrive faster but as am in a van he left me behind a mile or so up the road his stuck at the light do I drive as fast as I can pull up at the side of him jump out and I have a bottle of water in my hand I run round the front he has his window open and I squirt the water right in his face while swearing my head off telling him to get out of the car he doesn't of course I grab him and he just starts to drive off so now am sat on a Tesco car park trying to calm down I have been here 20 mins WOW that wasn't good

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Reports my behaviour are you trying to wind me up this fella could of killed me IDIOT "

to be fair, id have taken ypur details and given them to the other guy so he could have you locked up.

He made the mistake, but you proved to be the wanker he said you where!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just had my first real road rage experience I was just driving down the road as normal and some idiot just comes flying out of the side st how I missed him or how he missed me I have no idea I blasted my horn and flashed and the cheeky fuck wit gave me the wanker sign so I started to idrive faster but as am in a van he left me behind a mile or so up the road his stuck at the light do I drive as fast as I can pull up at the side of him jump out and I have a bottle of water in my hand I run round the front he has his window open and I squirt the water right in his face while swearing my head off telling him to get out of the car he doesn't of course I grab him and he just starts to drive off so now am sat on a Tesco car park trying to calm down I have been here 20 mins WOW that wasn't good

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Reports my behaviour are you trying to wind me up this fella could of killed me IDIOT

to be fair, id have taken ypur details and given them to the other guy so he could have you locked up.

He made the mistake, but you proved to be the wanker he said you where!"

Looked up for what some dick maybe like you all hard in his them shits himself when things catch up with them

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

Eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just had my first real road rage experience I was just driving down the road as normal and some idiot just comes flying out of the side st how I missed him or how he missed me I have no idea I blasted my horn and flashed and the cheeky fuck wit gave me the wanker sign so I started to idrive faster but as am in a van he left me behind a mile or so up the road his stuck at the light do I drive as fast as I can pull up at the side of him jump out and I have a bottle of water in my hand I run round the front he has his window open and I squirt the water right in his face while swearing my head off telling him to get out of the car he doesn't of course I grab him and he just starts to drive off so now am sat on a Tesco car park trying to calm down I have been here 20 mins WOW that wasn't good

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Reports my behaviour are you trying to wind me up this fella could of killed me IDIOT

to be fair, id have taken ypur details and given them to the other guy so he could have you locked up.

He made the mistake, but you proved to be the wanker he said you where!

Looked up for what some dick maybe like you all hard in his them shits himself when things catch up with them "

Be cool hunny bunny!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just had my first real road rage experience I was just driving down the road as normal and some idiot just comes flying out of the side st how I missed him or how he missed me I have no idea I blasted my horn and flashed and the cheeky fuck wit gave me the wanker sign so I started to idrive faster but as am in a van he left me behind a mile or so up the road his stuck at the light do I drive as fast as I can pull up at the side of him jump out and I have a bottle of water in my hand I run round the front he has his window open and I squirt the water right in his face while swearing my head off telling him to get out of the car he doesn't of course I grab him and he just starts to drive off so now am sat on a Tesco car park trying to calm down I have been here 20 mins WOW that wasn't good

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Reports my behaviour are you trying to wind me up this fella could of killed me IDIOT

to be fair, id have taken ypur details and given them to the other guy so he could have you locked up.

He made the mistake, but you proved to be the wanker he said you where!

Looked up for what some dick maybe like you all hard in his them shits himself when things catch up with them

Be cool hunny bunny!

Am calm young man just don't like being called a wanker as am sure you have worked out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am calm young man just don't like being called a wanker as am sure you have worked out

Could you do us all a favor and wear that as a sign round your next when you go to the next party. I'd hate to come across you having a wank and say the wrong thing lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair do's, but just stop acting like one and revel in the smugness of you being the superior operator of a motorised vehicle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am calm young man just don't like being called a wanker as am sure you have worked out

Stop acting like one then.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Am calm young man just don't like being called a wanker as am sure you have worked out

Am not having a pop at you, we all fuck up now and then its part n parcel of us being human etc..

by your own admission you lost it over a gesture from a complete stranger following a near miss which probably happens every day somewhere many times over..

perhaps look at your initial response and if you need to get some advice on that cos as has been said on here the next time it could all go badly wrong and tbh you wouldn't want to have some of the possible consequences on your conscience I would think..

take it easy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest I can't decide which is dumbest...what you did...or that you posted it here lol. Good luck on getting laid anytime soon dude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am going to be. driving home calm now people am logging off before I get banned for saying things I shouldn't to certain people

I'm with you on this one, and I think after your outburst he may think twice about driving like a dick in future.. Shame nobody ever witnesses the dangerous driving of some in the first instance !!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Fair do's, but just stop acting like one and revel in the smugness of you being the superior operator of a motorised vehicle

Lol I must say you made me life even though your taking the piss out of me

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Am calm young man just don't like being called a wanker as am sure you have worked out

Stop acting like one then. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looked up for what some dick maybe like you all hard in his them shits himself when things catch up with them "

I am guessing that was locked up...

lets re_iew it from an evidential point of _iew.

The other driver in your words is guilty of a minor motoring offence i.e. pulling out of a junction without proper care. at most 3 points and in a tough court a £100 fine.

You engaged in an aggressive high speed chase (unless your van is in a really bad way it goes significantly more than 30mph)

Reckless driving at traffic lights.

Then you left your car assaulted the other driver with a weapon, and attempted to drag him out of his window. With the publicly stated intention of attempted murder.

How do you think it would go in court?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jesus look at you all! Really its just childish and petty slinking round veiled insults trying to avoid being too blatant and getting bans.

There have been far worse threads on here and it wasn't cleaver but neither is sniping too.

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By *qua vitaeWoman
over a year ago

Shropshire/Midlands

He was in the wrong for pulling out in front of you and giving you an abusive signal, but sorry, it doesn't give you the right to retaliate like that. You were the road rager by chasing him, assaulting him and using offensive language. Just hope he got your number and reports you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looked up for what some dick maybe like you all hard in his them shits himself when things catch up with them

I am guessing that was locked up...

lets re_iew it from an evidential point of _iew.

The other driver in your words is guilty of a minor motoring offence i.e. pulling out of a junction without proper care. at most 3 points and in a tough court a £100 fine.

You engaged in an aggressive high speed chase (unless your van is in a really bad way it goes significantly more than 30mph)

Reckless driving at traffic lights.

Then you left your car assaulted the other driver with a weapon, and attempted to drag him out of his window. With the publicly stated intention of attempted murder.

How do you think it would go in court?

Ok so if the driver that pulled out was over the dd limit or was on their phone?How do you think that would go in court?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The defensive comments aren't surprising considering how many people act like complete assholes on the road.

This is so true

But because he was cut up and in a car his behaviour is somehow seen as justified.

But somebody bumping in to you while walking down the street has very little chance of killing you.

Silly comparison."

Lol very silly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But somebody bumping in to you while walking down the street has very little chance of killing you."

Ha...not so sure...got a story about that.

I was standing on the sidewalk in LA once just minding my own business when this jerk power walked smack bang into me and then said "mind where you're going prick" before walking off. My immediate reaction was to shirk and almost say sorry. Then it slowly dawned on me that it was in no way my fault. I was feeling plucky so I shouted after him... "actually that was really rude of you". He didn't hear me so I power walked after him and repeated it. "Hey man that was really rude of you". Ok I'm painting the picture here...as you can tell I'm quite a polite guy even when I'm riled lol. So he tries shirking me off until he gets to a road where cars are going up. I catch up with him and say once more "that was really rude of you". He turns around stares at me like he's gonna kill me and shouts "you wanna make something of it?".

So what was my reaction? What did I do?

I stepped straight up to his face and said "YES!". He must've crapped his pants cause he ran off across the road then. Wow I didn't realise I had that in me...still can't to this day. Nice to know I've got that on reserve though lol

Probably the jujitsu lol (see other thread on self defence)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My husband used to get road rage for me. If I were driving and he was the passenger he would bang on the horn and scream at people who cut me up. He asked why I never got angry. I didn't need to with him beside me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok so if the driver that pulled out was over the dd limit or was on their phone?How do you think that would go in court?"

But he wasn't was he, the OP said nothing about a phone, or drinking... so what is the point of your post?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We all make mistakes while driving.

Shrug your shoulders, wipe your chin deep breath and carry on.

Total agree with this statement had the OP never made a mistake whilst driving that could have resulted in someone assaulting him

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

Talk about Road-Rage - We have just watched a Four Police Car "BOX_IN"

just outside Exeter today.. the Police Slowed the Traffic Down with a rolling road Block...

Up ahead - we could see what was happening and They seemed to stop the vehicle without much damage..

The Police never once pulled out any firearms or Tasers and never looked like scaring innocent civilian's or kids that were on the A30...

All they did was stick the cable-ties on and cart them off..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You squirted water in someones face lol you are such a bad ass

Believe me I am I calm person normally I think I was drinking the water to calm me down I didn't even relies I had it in my had as I got out I wanted to kill him it's not good

What if you'd had a wrench in your hand?

Could have dismantled his car with it...

Seriously though, much as you we're initially 'wronged' by the twat, it would be you getting in to trouble if it was reported to the rozzers and witnesses/CCTV confirmed what happened when you caught up to him.

The roads these days are FULL of twats like him, just don't rise to it and you'll be ok. Easier said than done, as I chased down a van in East London that took my wing mirror off and tried to get away, when I was in my 20s and before mass coverage of CCTV...it didn't end well for either of us, and a valuable lesson in life was learned. Think this one through, and you'll be ok. And if the rozzers DO come calling, don't admit anything.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

I'm not saying what the OP did was right. However all the people saying that he should be reported should be careful they don't fall off their high horses. It may be a different scenario but the next time you break a law you could get reported. Would you then say " That was lucky I shouldn't have been allowed to get away with that."

Unless you know all the laws and the highway code you break laws every time you drive...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok so if the driver that pulled out was over the dd limit or was on their phone?How do you think that would go in court?

But he wasn't was he, the OP said nothing about a phone, or drinking... so what is the point of your post?"

Lol im not saying he was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But somebody bumping in to you while walking down the street has very little chance of killing you.

Ha...not so sure...got a story about that.

So what was my reaction? What did I do?

Probably the jujitsu lol (see other thread on self defence)"

And what do you think was achieved that wouldn't otherwise have been done by a shake of the head and walking away? Besides the potential for some violence.

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over a year ago

"I'm not saying what the OP did was right. However all the people saying that he should be reported should be careful they don't fall off their high horses. It may be a different scenario but the next time you break a law you could get reported. Would you then say " That was lucky I shouldn't have been allowed to get away with that."

Unless you know all the laws and the highway code you break laws every time you drive..."

What does assault have to do with the highway code? Or did I miss the bit that says if somebody cuts you up make sure to catch up with them and beat the shit out of them.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Good on you for doing that, you know it was not the brightest move to do. I don't think you would do it again that quick though in future. Road rage is easily done as well. Lets hope the little shit learns his lesson, but I doubt it, too many people drive like idiots and think they are in the right. Just don't do it too often

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

Unless you know all the laws and the highway code you break laws every time you drive...

What does assault have to do with the highway code? Or did I miss the bit that says if somebody cuts you up make sure to catch up with them and beat the shit out of them."

The assault bit was covered by me saying what the th OP did wasn't right...

The bit where I said about knowing the Highway code was explaining that unless you know it and all the laws of the road, every time you drive a car you commit offences that could be reported. I then went on to say if you were reported by someone for breaking the law would you be glad that person had reported you?

We have all done stupid things behind the wheel of a car that we have got away with and then sat back and realised what we have done. It doesn't mean everyone should get done for it. If you say you have never done anything wrong driving, that means you are the person that causes the accident and drives off totally obvious... Which makes you worse...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Unless you know all the laws and the highway code you break laws every time you drive...

What does assault have to do with the highway code? Or did I miss the bit that says if somebody cuts you up make sure to catch up with them and beat the shit out of them.

The assault bit was covered by me saying what the th OP did wasn't right...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that's a brain twister of an explanation.

If you don't know something you're contravening something whether you are or not. If you do something perfectly you're causing calamity all about you

However muddled your logic, it's just another of a surprising amount of comments defending what should not be defended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless you know all the laws and the highway code you break laws every time you drive..."

I'm actually lost for words that anyone would think that not knowing the laws of the road and that breaking them through ignorance is the norm

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Road rage is very understandable, we all have the fight or flight response when we feel ourselves threatened, and if the person who threatens our safety then makes a rude gesture and runs away we will give chase. It's how we are hard-wired. We are also hard-wired to be increasingly more aggressive the more secure we feel.

Now add to the above all the 'advances' in vehicle passenger safety, crumple zones, airbags et al and the fact is we all subconsciously think we are driving round in tanks. (In fact we give our tanks harness scores (Euro encap scores) and aim to buy the strongest we can.) Is it no wonder that people drive more aggressively, take more risks, and provoke more road-rage incidents by their general behaviour behind the wheel of their 5* encap rated tank?

And before anyone lays into me for what I have said I would point out that the problem is so bad that the powers that be are now continually legislating to make vehicles softer and less lethal to the pedestrians that get run down by the 5* tanks!

To the OP I would say that many have pointed out that you are lucky that you did not get hit by a crowbar, hammer, baseball bat or dragged along road as the car sped off a second time, they are all correct. What you did was really quite stupid. Think about what has happened and work out what to do if you ever find yourself in the same sort of situation again (hint its very hard to drive a car without the keys) and the best way to really make someone think is inconvenience them by costing them time and if possible money, and get one of the 5 min rolling videos now available for motorists and mount it in front of your rear-_iew mirror so that you have a record of any future indecent for the police to see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet that's the last time u chase a police car.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have cctv in my crane its big has flashing lights around it its road travel weight is 100t and driver's still pull out on me and cut me up. Going to start putting the cctv clips on internet name and shame

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By *kin BohnerMan
over a year ago

derby

I hope someone witnessed your behaviour and reports you to the police

Reports my behaviour are you trying to wind me up this fella could of killed me IDIOT "

Who is the bigger idiot, the bad driver who pulls out on another or the driver that obviously broke the speed limit to catch them up to carry out an asalt! As a lorry driver I faced bad driving several times a day but never asalted anyone.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"Unless you know all the laws and the highway code you break laws every time you drive...

I'm actually lost for words that anyone would think that not knowing the laws of the road and that breaking them through ignorance is the norm

So without looking it up, how many rules are there in the highway code? If you don't know them all there is a good chance that you contravene one or more every time you drive.

So yes breaking the law and rules of the road through ignorance is the norm...

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"Well that's a brain twister of an explanation.

If you don't know something you're contravening something whether you are or not. If you do something perfectly you're causing calamity all about you

However muddled your logic, it's just another of a surprising amount of comments defending what should not be defended."

It's not really that difficult... Ignorance is no defence... So just because you don't know you are breaking a law doesn't mean you are not breaking it...

Secondly there are many times when someone causes or nearly causes a crash but is not actually involved in the crash. They then drive off totally ignorant to the damage they have caused...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What you wrote was "unless you know it and all the laws of the road, every time you drive a car you commit offences that could be reported"

- which makes no sense, because how would you know?!

Maybe you can provide an example of the kind of law people might be inadvertently be breaking?

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over a year ago

"Unless you know all the laws and the highway code you break laws every time you drive...

I'm actually lost for words that anyone would think that not knowing the laws of the road and that breaking them through ignorance is the norm

So without looking it up, how many rules are there in the highway code? If you don't know them all there is a good chance that you contravene one or more every time you drive.

So yes breaking the law and rules of the road through ignorance is the norm..."

Let's be honest this possibly says more about your driving than anything else...

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

"Breaking the law and rules of the road through ignorance is the norm..."

It quite well could be the case - if the Driver Does Not Know every single road sign in the Highway Code - for example..

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Breaking the law and rules of the road through ignorance is the norm...

It quite well could be the case - if the Driver Does Not Know every single road sign in the Highway Code - for example..

Is not knowing all the road signs in the highway code an offence?

Or is it an offence if you fail to obey a 'must do' or 'must not do' sign and failure to obey the sign thus causing a RTC due to ignorance of the highway code an offence?

i think you may find that it is the latter rather than the former.

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

"Breaking the law and rules of the road through ignorance is the norm...

It quite well could be the case - if the Driver Does Not Know every single road sign in the Highway Code - for example..

Is not knowing all the road signs in the highway code an offence?

well you are allowed to get one or two wrong during the Theory-test !!

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over a year ago

"Breaking the law and rules of the road through ignorance is the norm...

It quite well could be the case - if the Driver Does Not Know every single road sign in the Highway Code - for example..

Is not knowing all the road signs in the highway code an offence?

Or is it an offence if you fail to obey a 'must do' or 'must not do' sign and failure to obey the sign thus causing a RTC due to ignorance of the highway code an offence?

i think you may find that it is the latter rather than the former.

it appears that some people don't even know what the highway code is and are seemingly unable to differentiate between the contents of it and the laws of the land...

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

Ok. I'll spell it out for you. If you contravene the highway code (knowingly or not) if you have not broken a specific law you will be driving without due care and attention or consideration for other road users... That is an offence...

An example. You are walking down the road and there is a side road you have to cross. As you approach you see there is no car turning into the road. You start to cross, a car arrives and turns into the road, causing you to jump back. The car driver shouts, sounds their horn and drives off.

Example 2. A pedestrian is using a zebra crossing, the pedestrian crosses the front of your car and you drive off whilst the pedestrian is still on the crossing. That is a specific offence... Yet it something I witness regularly...

For those of you still struggling... It has been raining, there are puddles in the road. You fail to slow down or avoid a puddle, soaking a pedestrian. You have committed an offence. Yet an other thing you see every time it rains...

If you still don't understand, you shouldn't be trusted with a car...

Two fairly simple examples...I hope that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although road rage is wrong, some people need and deserve a slap. You never know... It might be the slap that wakes them up to that behaviour & makes them think twice next time & makes them realise it's not acceptable. A slap may actually save lives in the future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Breaking the law and rules of the road through ignorance is the norm...

It quite well could be the case - if the Driver Does Not Know every single road sign in the Highway Code - for example..

Is not knowing all the road signs in the highway code an offence?

Or is it an offence if you fail to obey a 'must do' or 'must not do' sign and failure to obey the sign thus causing a RTC due to ignorance of the highway code an offence?

i think you may find that it is the latter rather than the former.

The latter is the case. UK courts follow the "Ignorantia juris non excusat" - "Ignorance of the law excuses no-one" caveat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Although road rage is wrong, some people need and deserve a slap. You never know... It might be the slap that wakes them up to that behaviour & makes them think twice next time & makes them realise it's not acceptable. A slap may actually save lives in the future."

Just don't be surprised when you get one back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok. I'll spell it out for you. If you contravene the highway code (knowingly or not) if you have not broken a specific law you will be driving without due care and attention or consideration for other road users... That is an offence...

If you still don't understand, you shouldn't be trusted with a car...

Two fairly simple examples...I hope that "

And those illustrate the previous muddles?!

Whoever has passed a driving test and not known of the rule of a zebra crossing and not to splash pedestrians?

I don't understand the first example at all, except that the driver is an arsehole.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

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"Breaking the law and rules of the road through ignorance is the norm...

It quite well could be the case - if the Driver Does Not Know every single road sign in the Highway Code - for example..

Is not knowing all the road signs in the highway code an offence?

Or is it an offence if you fail to obey a 'must do' or 'must not do' sign and failure to obey the sign thus causing a RTC due to ignorance of the highway code an offence?

i think you may find that it is the latter rather than the former.

The latter is the case. UK courts follow the "Ignorantia juris non excusat" - "Ignorance of the law excuses no-one" caveat."

And again someone does not understand...

You are right about 'ignorance of the law being no defence'. However the offence committed is one of 'driving without due care and attention' contrary to the Road Traffic Act 1988.

NOT failing to obey the highway code!

As for the previous poster who mentions soaking a pedestrian, I believe the offences there is one of causing criminal 'damage to property' and 'driving without reasonable consideration on a road or public place' Road Traffic Act 1988 amended 1991.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

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THIS IS THE INTRODUCTION TO THE HIGHWAY CODE!

This Highway Code applies to England, Scotland and Wales. The Highway Code is essential reading for everyone.

The most vulnerable road users are pedestrians, particularly children, older or disabled people, cyclists, motorcyclists and horse riders. It is important that all road users are aware of The Highway Code and are considerate towards each other. This applies to pedestrians as much as to drivers and riders.

Many of the rules in The Highway Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST NOT’. In addition, the rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which creates the offence. See an explanation of the abbreviations.

Although failure to comply with the other rules of The Highway Code will not, in itself, cause a person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under the Traffic Acts (see The road user and the law) to establish liability. This includes rules which use advisory wording such as ‘should/should not’ or ‘do/do not’.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I missed this gem

cheers

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

I don't understand the first example at all, except that the driver is an arsehole."

The pedestrian has right of way. The driver has failed to obey that right of way. That is evidence of " Driving without due care and attention or consideration for other road users. Then you have the secondry offence of improper use of a horn and possible public order offences...

It's not difficult if you fail to follow the highway code, you are either commiting a specific offence or providing evidence for other offences like driving without due care...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why make something so complex?

If you break a law, regardless of ignorance, you have broken the law.

That's it.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

You are at fault.

You pursued and attacked him.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Eh?

LOL ..... I said that too ....even after the second reading.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Well that's a brain twister of an explanation.

If you don't know something you're contravening something whether you are or not. If you do something perfectly you're causing calamity all about you

However muddled your logic, it's just another of a surprising amount of comments defending what should not be defended.

It's not really that difficult... Ignorance is no defence... So just because you don't know you are breaking a law doesn't mean you are not breaking it...

Secondly there are many times when someone causes or nearly causes a crash but is not actually involved in the crash. They then drive off totally ignorant to the damage they have caused...

He followed a driver, got out of his car and attacked the other person who was NOT threatening him but heading away from him.

If there is a part of that which you don't understand I will try again x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't understand the first example at all, except that the driver is an arsehole.

It's not difficult if you fail to follow the highway code, you are either commiting a specific offence or providing evidence for other offences like driving without due care...

I still don't understand your point. Anyone with any common sense knows each of your 3 points are breaking laws.

Are you sure you aren't just thinking of the laws you dismiss as not important?

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

I must admit I don't think it is that hard...

The guy stated what he had done. He realised that he had done wrong. He pulled over and calmed down and reflected on what he had done.

People said they hoped he would get reported. I then went on to say, if you did something wrong would you feel the same way if you got reported, adding that most people break the law or highway code every time they drive. I realise that what the OP did was extreme but feel there are a lot of people on their high horse who probably don't realise that they are breaking the law as often as they do...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I must admit I don't think it is that hard...

The guy stated what he had done. He realised that he had done wrong. He pulled over and calmed down and reflected on what he had done.

I think the people saying he should be reported were referring to his assault on the other driver which has nothing to do with driving offences or the Highway Code. I may be wrong but that it how I have read it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I must admit I don't think it is that hard...

The guy stated what he had done. He realised that he had done wrong. He pulled over and calmed down and reflected on what he had done.

This

Though I'm not keen on the bit where he chased the driver down it is clearly the subsequent behaviour that is deserving of being reported.

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

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A mad man approached me from my front drivers side door so i slowly rolled over his toes and as he was planted there i twisted his nose and poked my finger in his eye then drove off

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