FabSwingers.com forum: To be a politician do you have to be a hypocrite?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just two examples to quote which have been in the news recently, maybe you can add your own flavour.

1. Tony Blair calling the UKIP party "nasty and unpleasant".

Wasn't very nice of you bombing Iraq, including women and children, was it?

2. Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness of Sinn Féin calling on Mr Robinson to show leadership in promoting equality, tolerance and mutual respect for all.

Oh Really! So how does that work then?

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

Cunt 's a better word.

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

Yes. And no. To give a political answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's easy to lose sight of what really important here......,"blah-blah-blah-blah-blah"....... and we in our party are committed to delivery that,,,,

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Just two examples to quote which have been in the news recently, maybe you can add your own flavour.

1. Tony Blair calling the UKIP party "nasty and unpleasant".

Wasn't very nice of you bombing Iraq, including women and children, was it?

2. Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness of Sinn Féin calling on Mr Robinson to show leadership in promoting equality, tolerance and mutual respect for all.

Oh Really! So how does that work then?"

farage says "british people for british jobs".... then employs his german wife as PA say no brits are qualified.....

my god... you are right!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I 'spose there could be one exception made.

By some accounts Nick Clegg is quoted as saying he's staying leader of his party until he's finished. Something like that.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

You have to be low in morals, lie through your teeth and sit on the fence. And be a total cunt to suceed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's finished

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis

I call for a mass political orgy with all our 'leaders' as fluffers

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

A politician is a professional liar. Many started in the legal profession. Draw your own conclusion.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

As a politician you have to be able to play all the different sides - business, media, other politicians, the public. It's pretty much impossible for a politician to be consistent and honest with all the different influences and pressures.

Not saying it lets them off the hook, but society is as much to blame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

tbh you have to be a hypocrite to be many things in this life, politician is just one of them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"A politician is a professional liar. Many started in the legal profession. Draw your own conclusion. "

I somewhat recall a statistic from the early hours following 1997 election and Blair's landslide.

Something like, of the 400 "new" MP's in the Nu-Labour party, 387 of them were from a legal background. The conclusion i drew then proved to be accurate and the full effects have yet to be felt in society.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Tony Benn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tony Benn. "

the rice fella?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You have to be low in morals, lie through your teeth and sit on the fence. And be a total cunt to suceed."

Ive missed my vocation!.... except the fence sitting bit

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By *iscomanMan
over a year ago

Solihull

The are only two good politicians

One who is not born!!!

One who is dead!!!

They are all a bunch of liars and cheats and two faced

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some have more integrity than others. But hypocrisy is far from unique to politicians

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

Fair point as we the public don't want the costs of the promise explained clearly just the best offer. Look at how both sides of the Scottish debate promise a better economic outlook if they win

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

Why did nick clegg cross the road ?

Because he said he wouldn't

Nuff said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been racking my brains to think of an honest one

like or loathe the only one I can think of I'd Anne Widdicombe

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

MP bashing is of course good sport... But who the hell would want a job where everyone is on your back, nobody trusts you, everyone hates you no matter what you do and to cap it all.. You can't even fiddle your expenses anymore to top up what is essentially a very poor wage for what they do.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

You had me until poor wage

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"Tony Benn. "

here here...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, just to be completely removed from normality!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lie be a turn coat, and simply forget about being in the real world.

Oh and try and teach people how to scav down the bins.

Her

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

"Tony Benn.

here here..."

Agreed. Excellent chap. I would also say Dennis skinner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just two examples to quote which have been in the news recently, maybe you can add your own flavour.

1. Tony Blair calling the UKIP party "nasty and unpleasant".

Wasn't very nice of you bombing Iraq, including women and children, was it?

2. Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness of Sinn Féin calling on Mr Robinson to show leadership in promoting equality, tolerance and mutual respect for all.

Oh Really! So how does that work then?

farage says "british people for british jobs".... then employs his german wife as PA say no brits are qualified.....

my god... you are right!!!!

ive often wondered if ukip did get in would he boot his wife out the country

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

Just two examples to quote which have been in the news recently, maybe you can add your own flavour.

1. Tony Blair calling the UKIP party "nasty and unpleasant".

Wasn't very nice of you bombing Iraq, including women and children, was it?

2. Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness of Sinn Féin calling on Mr Robinson to show leadership in promoting equality, tolerance and mutual respect for all.

Oh Really! So how does that work then?

farage says "british people for british jobs".... then employs his german wife as PA say no brits are qualified.....

my god... you are right!!!!

ive often wondered if ukip did get in would he boot his wife out the country

I don't think he would.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just two examples to quote which have been in the news recently, maybe you can add your own flavour.

1. Tony Blair calling the UKIP party "nasty and unpleasant".

Wasn't very nice of you bombing Iraq, including women and children, was it?

2. Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness of Sinn Féin calling on Mr Robinson to show leadership in promoting equality, tolerance and mutual respect for all.

Oh Really! So how does that work then?

farage says "british people for british jobs".... then employs his german wife as PA say no brits are qualified.....

my god... you are right!!!!

ive often wondered if ukip did get in would he boot his wife out the country

I don't think he would."

the answer to the question then is no

nothing hypocritical about that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the main qualification for a politician is to be a self serving, arrogant, greedy, psychopath

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Tony Benn.

here here...

Agreed. Excellent chap. I would also say Dennis skinner."
Agreed, most especially for Tony who was a giant.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

rogue traders..

lying and corrupt bankers..

etc etc..

liars, cheats and generally useless cunts will inhabit every trade, vocation etc ..

to pretend otherwise is silly..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the whole, I think it is those with self interest that are more driven to pursue their goals than others.

So those with self interest land those positions.

There are certainly folks who are driven to help, but they are outnumbered by those who want money and power, in my opinion. And I recognise that it is just an opinion.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"You had me until poor wage

I would want more than £70,000 a year to put up with the crap they get from the outside.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"MP bashing is of course good sport... But who the hell would want a job where everyone is on your back, nobody trusts you, everyone hates you no matter what you do and to cap it all.. You can't even fiddle your expenses anymore to top up what is essentially a very poor wage for what they do."

What you say may have a semblance of truth but i'd wager there is no shortage of applicants ie candidates for the role come the next election. And that's after every parties' selection processes.

So it can't be that bad a job.

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"You have to be low in morals, lie through your teeth and sit on the fence. And be a total cunt to suceed."

You don't need to be any of those things to get elected. You do to get re-elected though!

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

"Tony Benn.

here here...

Agreed. Excellent chap. I would also say Dennis skinner."

Indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tony Benn. "

Great man

Boner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

everyone moans about politicians and how stupid they are and what liars they are and how they dont do there jobs properly. have people ever thought about not.voting at all. then what would happen? the people would be in charge, as its supposed to be, a pm is supposed to be the peoples voice but they only take of what there sponsers want them to take care of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just two examples to quote which have been in the news recently, maybe you can add your own flavour.

1. Tony Blair calling the UKIP party "nasty and unpleasant".

Wasn't very nice of you bombing Iraq, including women and children, was it?

2. Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness of Sinn Féin calling on Mr Robinson to show leadership in promoting equality, tolerance and mutual respect for all.

Oh Really! So how does that work then?"

You need to rephrase that it should be ..to be a SUCCESSFUL politician...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just two examples to quote which have been in the news recently, maybe you can add your own flavour.

1. Tony Blair calling the UKIP party "nasty and unpleasant".

Wasn't very nice of you bombing Iraq, including women and children, was it?

2. Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness of Sinn Féin calling on Mr Robinson to show leadership in promoting equality, tolerance and mutual respect for all.

Oh Really! So how does that work then?

farage says "british people for british jobs".... then employs his german wife as PA say no brits are qualified.....

my god... you are right!!!!

"
lol your on the way to being a politician using part of a quote to prove a point . Ah no that happens on here frequently

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many politicians have had a real job? They are out of touch with the public, never stick to election policies, certainly do not work in the interests of the country only themselves. Bullsh*ters would be a better term

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Politicians simply reflect the society that elects them; or they do not become an elected politician.

Society varies widely so they will tell one section one thing and another the opposite. So what do you call an honest politician? Anything you want as he is usually dead or unelectable.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Just two examples to quote which have been in the news recently, maybe you can add your own flavour.

1. Tony Blair calling the UKIP party "nasty and unpleasant".

Wasn't very nice of you bombing Iraq, including women and children, was it?

2. Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness of Sinn Féin calling on Mr Robinson to show leadership in promoting equality, tolerance and mutual respect for all.

Oh Really! So how does that work then?"

I'm a hypocrite. Told my girls not to talk to men on the Internet as some just want sex!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Hypocrisy starts early.

How many parents say, "don't do as I do, do as I tell you"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You had me until poor wage

I would want more than £70,000 a year to put up with the crap they get from the outside."

they do get more than £70,000 a year by using expenses they amass nearly double that, they do not live in the real world.

If they did what the vast majority of the electorate did and pay for everyday items and bills out of their wages (£70,000), only held down one full time job (as oppossed to lots of part time jobs on the side), forfeitted their right to a final salary pension like they are demand ing every other civil servant does then they may be more in touch with reality

what they practise and what they preach are poles apart and there is not one who cannot lie straight in bed.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"You had me until poor wage

I would want more than £70,000 a year to put up with the crap they get from the outside.

they do get more than £70,000 a year by using expenses they amass nearly double that, they do not live in the real world.

what they practise and what they preach are poles apart and there is not one who cannot lie straight in bed."

Perhaps you would contemplate making the long term unemployed politicians or possibly new school leavers?

What calibre of people would you want running the country and hob bobbing with the great and the good of our European and world allies?

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By *awkeye and HotlipsCouple
over a year ago

Takeley

You don't need to be qualified, or have any previous experience to become an MP, just need to know when to say yes and no. Self serving, with no political agenda apart from self preservation. It applies to business, sport, politics and is not the sole preserve of the UK, it's a global thing. Remember: a politician will tell you anything and promise everything, to get your vote and do everything he/she can to further profit from it, at your expense......they are employed by us, yet set their own agendas.

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