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"threads maxed out faster than any others posted about sex on a swingers site ,ukip are the most popular political party in british hostory ,fact stats prove it conseratives need to form a coalition otherwise there be getting there p 45 ,i would rather not join a coalition and just form full control even if it takes 5 years " Have you got a source for these stats and facts? Or are you basing it on how many people weigh in about the topic on a swingers site? Just wondering. | |||
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"threads maxed out faster than any others posted about sex on a swingers site ,ukip are the most popular political party in british hostory ,fact stats prove it conseratives need to form a coalition otherwise there be getting there p 45 ,i would rather not join a coalition and just form full control even if it takes 5 years " On what basis are they "the most popular in political in history"? | |||
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"UKIP are very visible that is for sure and it seems they appear bigger than the reality. Of 1886 seats so far, they have won 92. This is not a rise to power thus far, there is a long road ahead for them with plenty of potholes. What perhaps should be worrying for UKIP and Tories, is the big swing towards Labour." what has your local council done about potholes ? why do we motorists pay road tax where does it go ? revenue making speed cameras perhaps | |||
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"threads maxed out faster than any others posted about sex on a swingers site , Can you prove that? The thread didn't 'max' out in a positive way though, or are you overoolking that small fact " i sat up watching this record rise to power all night ,i have closely followed it all my adult life no party has ever done this well so fast in history i dont read the mail or the mirror but allmost every other paper ,im not rascist my kids godfather is black i have fucked many black women apart from other women from many many nations ,im just a working class realistic person | |||
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"threads maxed out faster than any others posted about sex on a swingers site , Can you prove that? The thread didn't 'max' out in a positive way though, or are you overoolking that small fact i sat up watching this record rise to power all night ,i have closely followed it all my adult life no party has ever done this well so fast in history i dont read the mail or the mirror but allmost every other paper ,im not rascist my kids godfather is black i have fucked many black women apart from other women from many many nations ,im just a working class realistic person " You obviously didn't read my question either I asked if you could prove that the threads maxed out faster than any others | |||
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"UKIP are very visible that is for sure and it seems they appear bigger than the reality. Of 1886 seats so far, they have won 92. This is not a rise to power thus far, there is a long road ahead for them with plenty of potholes. What perhaps should be worrying for UKIP and Tories, is the big swing towards Labour.what has your local council done about potholes ? why do we motorists pay road tax where does it go ? revenue making speed cameras perhaps" It's very well known that speed cameras don't actually make much money and I'm not sure that UKIP winning a seat will magically bring about a pot of gold to fix the potholes. Interesting to note that you didn't actually address the hard statistics, nor do you actually seem to quote any yourself. Fanciful opinion a fact is not. | |||
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"i sat up watching this record rise to power all night ,i have closely followed it all my adult life no party has ever done this well so fast in history i dont read the mail or the mirror but allmost every other paper ,im not rascist my kids godfather is black i have fucked many black women apart from other women from many many nations ,im just a working class realistic person " 21 years... and not a single MP?.. | |||
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"UKIP 'success' is a direct by product of the 24/7 news media industry. Threatened financially by other forms of news distribution, UKIP have been manna from heaven in a political landscape that has been distinctly moribund since the demise of the last Labour government. The positive from this is that maybe people might be encouraged to engage in the political process again. The negative being that it's taken a quasi far right, delusion, political flyweight of a party to stir the people." Surely UKIP's "success" is a direct by-product of people actually voting for them? | |||
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"Surely UKIP's "success" is a direct by-product of people actually voting for them?" True. And most people didn't. | |||
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"threads maxed out faster than any others posted about sex on a swingers site , Can you prove that? The thread didn't 'max' out in a positive way though, or are you overoolking that small fact i sat up watching this record rise to power all night ,i have closely followed it all my adult life no party has ever done this well so fast in history i dont read the mail or the mirror but allmost every other paper ,im not rascist my kids godfather is black i have fucked many black women apart from other women from many many nations ,im just a working class realistic person " So what are you going to do with your 5% power? Watch you don't spend it all in the one sweetie shop. Look, UKIP have garnered a lot of media attention recently as Farage is a divisive figure and he's someone relatively new for the media to shout about. The bigger issue the main parties have utterly failed to recognise and address is that the voting public is both apathetic and angry and so far they hear the same windbags, full of rhetoric and no action, day after day telling them they feel their pain. They don't and they never will so the public is doing something about it. Politicians, now more so than ever, have to get a grip on how the voting public think and operate (social media etc) and get with it! The public want someone who is going to do something to sort what they perceive to be their problems. Farage has said what they want to hear, the fact that he really only stands for two policies doesn't seem to enter into it. Word of warning through! Decades ago no one said the SNP would ever win a majority and have a hope of making a dent in politics and now look...That happened because just over half the people in Scotland voted for them and not labour / Tory etc because they were angry and fed up with the bullshit from Westminster. | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist " I suspect he'd lose quite a few if they see his threads and comments today. | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist I suspect he'd lose quite a few if they see his threads and comments today." he'll even | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist " Doesn't not don't | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist " why ethnic minority? what about ethnic majority? are you suggesting you cant be racist against white people in the UK | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist why ethnic minority? what about ethnic majority? are you suggesting you cant be racist against white people in the UK " Don't you start | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist why ethnic minority? what about ethnic majority? are you suggesting you cant be racist against white people in the UK " actually I suppose that should say you cant be racist against English people in the UK | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist why ethnic minority? what about ethnic majority? are you suggesting you cant be racist against white people in the UK Don't you start " haha as if I would it does make me laugh thought how when people talk about racist here people always assume its English doing the bullying, like none white/English people can be racist towards English people in this country | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist why ethnic minority? what about ethnic majority? are you suggesting you cant be racist against white people in the UK actually I suppose that should say you cant be racist against English people in the UK" A racist is a racist no matter what race they are and how do you define English? | |||
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"And again....UKIP can kiss my fat arse... That is all..!! " your not head of the bbc's political department are you ?. | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist why ethnic minority? what about ethnic majority? are you suggesting you cant be racist against white people in the UK actually I suppose that should say you cant be racist against English people in the UK A racist is a racist no matter what race they are and how do you define English?" People from England? | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist why ethnic minority? what about ethnic majority? are you suggesting you cant be racist against white people in the UK actually I suppose that should say you cant be racist against English people in the UK A racist is a racist no matter what race they are and how do you define English? People from England? " Pmsl Was just checking. | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist why ethnic minority? what about ethnic majority? are you suggesting you cant be racist against white people in the UK Don't you start haha as if I would it does make me laugh thought how when people talk about racist here people always assume its English doing the bullying, like none white/English people can be racist towards English people in this country " Oh I've come across it bring called a honkie etc... | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist why ethnic minority? what about ethnic majority? are you suggesting you cant be racist against white people in the UK Don't you start haha as if I would it does make me laugh thought how when people talk about racist here people always assume its English doing the bullying, like none white/English people can be racist towards English people in this country Oh I've come across it bring called a honkie etc..." I had a guy I met off here call me white trash once then was seriously confused when I didn't want to shag him | |||
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"So some one born in England are English regardless of race and colour x" does that not make your british? I suppose it depends what you want to class yourself as, my parents are from Sicily, me and my sister was born there, we cam to England when I was 3, my mother had another child after we moved but my dad was very proud of his culture and maintained my brother was still a Sicilian, he used to say...all because your born in a stable that don't make you a cow | |||
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"threads maxed out faster than any others posted about sex on a swingers site ,ukip are the most popular political party in british hostory " Thanks OP, all the news hype has concerned me a little, but seeing you happy when 95% of the posts are negative and UKIP have landed a small proportion of jobs deciding on how often to empty bins. With a bit of luck there will be just enough learned to make damned sure they don't get a single seat in Westminster next year. | |||
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"UKIP are very visible that is for sure and it seems they appear bigger than the reality. Of 1886 seats so far, they have won 92. This is not a rise to power thus far, there is a long road ahead for them with plenty of potholes. What perhaps should be worrying for UKIP and Tories, is the big swing towards Labour.what has your local council done about potholes ? why do we motorists pay road tax where does it go ? revenue making speed cameras perhaps" Can I just point out that you don't pay road tax and neither does any motorist in this country... | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist " I get this all the time if I'm around someone and they say something offensive lol they have no clue how idiotic they sound trying to explain to me why they're not lol | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist I get this all the time if I'm around someone and they say something offensive lol they have no clue how idiotic they sound trying to explain to me why they're not lol " This whole thread series must seem very parochial to you: the UK gets worked up about people who voted for a bunch of people who still don't run ANYTHING. Wait until you get the threads for our General Election next year. | |||
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"Bein Scottish this huge thread has made me think you guys have a lot of angst down there .im feeling a bit weird myself today..i hope you dont all start fighting,I've put snow patrol to try to make myself feel better.so far not working hence this stupid text sorry " If snow patrol can't lighten your mood nothing will, get chocolate on full blast, you will be singing in no time | |||
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"My post copied and pasted from the Fuck UKIP thread: I blame Ryan; 'Kippers everywhere! UKIP have achieved much. Which councils are they running? How many MPs do they have? None, you say? Well, the press and UKIP made it seem that they had swept the board and taken over the country. My two favourite Twats this morning: 1. "Scotland waking up in a 70s sitcom this morning as they realise their next door neighbour is a bit racist." 2. "UKIP spokesman "We don't tend to do well in London because it's cultural, educated and young". Their words. Not mine..." All I managed to write was "It's 'Kippers for breakfast, lunch and dinner today". Must do better. I'll use UKIP words in future as they do themselves down much better than I can manage. I will add that I don't actually blame Ryan in case anyone thinks I was being serious. He uses kippers for slapping people. " As long as they don't put a slappy tax on them. It will cost me a fortune. | |||
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"My post copied and pasted from the Fuck UKIP thread: I blame Ryan; 'Kippers everywhere! UKIP have achieved much. Which councils are they running? How many MPs do they have? None, you say? Well, the press and UKIP made it seem that they had swept the board and taken over the country. My two favourite Twats this morning: 1. "Scotland waking up in a 70s sitcom this morning as they realise their next door neighbour is a bit racist." 2. "UKIP spokesman "We don't tend to do well in London because it's cultural, educated and young". Their words. Not mine..." All I managed to write was "It's 'Kippers for breakfast, lunch and dinner today". Must do better. I'll use UKIP words in future as they do themselves down much better than I can manage. I will add that I don't actually blame Ryan in case anyone thinks I was being serious. He uses kippers for slapping people. As long as they don't put a slappy tax on them. It will cost me a fortune. " Kippers to slap 'Kippers? So wrong and yet... | |||
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"I love it when people say I'm not racist I've got a black (insert ethnic minority here) friend....people may have a black friend etc...it don't mean that they are not racist I get this all the time if I'm around someone and they say something offensive lol they have no clue how idiotic they sound trying to explain to me why they're not lol This whole thread series must seem very parochial to you: the UK gets worked up about people who voted for a bunch of people who still don't run ANYTHING. Wait until you get the threads for our General Election next year. " It's been very interesting I will say that lol | |||
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"I will add that I don't actually blame Ryan in case anyone thinks I was being serious. He uses kippers for slapping people. " What? you mean it isn't Ryan's fault! | |||
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"So many muppits vote for them the backward scum bet the voters spend there time throwing rocks at the moon " bit harsh so because someone does not share the same _iews as you they are backwards scum? personally I think taking away peoples freedom of speech is going backwards they are not a party I would vote for but I will defend anyone's right to put their point forwards | |||
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"So many muppits vote for them the backward scum bet the voters spend there time throwing rocks at the moon " So explain why you are muppet and backward scum if you vote UKIP ? Maybe people may just like some of there policys . | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. This is only the start, just wait until sunday night when the results for the European elections are given, and UKIP come 1st, with more MEP's than Labour, Tory and Lib dems. Would love to see the look on some of your faces, hahahahahaha! Is it really too much for some of you people to hold your hands up and say "you know what UKIP, well done". You may not like it but thousands of people all over the country went out and voted UKIP in a fair and democratic process. Anyone would think the world was going to end reading some of the comments on these UKIP threads. Personally i'm enjoying seeing the political elite politicians from westminster coming on the telly with faces like smacked arses, and admitting they have lost council seats to UKIP. Looking forward to seeing them get their arses smacked again on sunday night when UKIP come 1st in the European elections aswel. " | |||
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"So many muppits vote for them the backward scum bet the voters spend there time throwing rocks at the moon So explain why you are muppet and backward scum if you vote UKIP ? Maybe people may just like some of there policys . " Which policies, that can be relevant in a local council, are people supporting? We don't have the results of the EU elections yet but there will be an upswing to UKIP. That in itself is interesting as they have voted to use their taxes to pay people to represent them in the EU who will do that by largely ignoring the EU, certainly for the first year, as they spend their time here campaigning for the General Election. Maybe, like their great leader, they will take EU payments to pay non-British Europeans to work with them. The policies at local council will be what? | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. This is only the start, just wait until sunday night when the results for the European elections are given, and UKIP come 1st, with more MEP's than Labour, Tory and Lib dems. Would love to see the look on some of your faces, hahahahahaha! Is it really too much for some of you people to hold your hands up and say "you know what UKIP, well done". You may not like it but thousands of people all over the country went out and voted UKIP in a fair and democratic process. Anyone would think the world was going to end reading some of the comments on these UKIP threads. Personally i'm enjoying seeing the political elite politicians from westminster coming on the telly with faces like smacked arses, and admitting they have lost council seats to UKIP. Looking forward to seeing them get their arses smacked again on sunday night when UKIP come 1st in the European elections aswel. " Sour grapes indeed. | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. " The reality, UKIP have won about 5% of the council seats, and got 1 third of the seats lost by the con dems jointly leaving labour the other 2 thirds. it's quite a good result, but hardly enough to shake the political world. In Europe the UKIP MEP's currently there pride themselves on collecting the £90,000 salary for not turning up to debate or vote. So all that will achieve is less representation of our interests, When they get 50%+ MP's in the house of commons then they become a real threat, reality is they will probably struggle to outnumber the green party. | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. The reality, UKIP have won about 5% of the council seats, and got 1 third of the seats lost by the con dems jointly leaving labour the other 2 thirds. it's quite a good result, but hardly enough to shake the political world. In Europe the UKIP MEP's currently there pride themselves on collecting the £90,000 salary for not turning up to debate or vote. So all that will achieve is less representation of our interests, When they get 50%+ MP's in the house of commons then they become a real threat, reality is they will probably struggle to outnumber the green party." Labour . Conservatives and the Lib Dems had to start somewhere .just saying | |||
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"So many muppits vote for them the backward scum bet the voters spend there time throwing rocks at the moon So explain why you are muppet and backward scum if you vote UKIP ? Maybe people may just like some of there policys . Which policies, that can be relevant in a local council, are people supporting? We don't have the results of the EU elections yet but there will be an upswing to UKIP. That in itself is interesting as they have voted to use their taxes to pay people to represent them in the EU who will do that by largely ignoring the EU, certainly for the first year, as they spend their time here campaigning for the General Election. Maybe, like their great leader, they will take EU payments to pay non-British Europeans to work with them. The policies at local council will be what? " People may want UKIP mep's to represent them in Brussels because they know a UKIP mep will do everything they can to throw a spanner in the works of the corrupt, undemocratic, and quite frankly criminal European parliament in Brussels. UKIP mep's always vote against any further transfer of power from the UK to the EU. Best way to destroy and organisation like the EU is from the inside out and this is what UKIP are trying to achieve. | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. The reality, UKIP have won about 5% of the council seats, and got 1 third of the seats lost by the con dems jointly leaving labour the other 2 thirds. it's quite a good result, but hardly enough to shake the political world. In Europe the UKIP MEP's currently there pride themselves on collecting the £90,000 salary for not turning up to debate or vote. So all that will achieve is less representation of our interests, When they get 50%+ MP's in the house of commons then they become a real threat, reality is they will probably struggle to outnumber the green party." Spin it like that if you want to, fact is UKIP have gone from around 17 councillors to over 100 now overnight, by any definition that is a considerable gain and a big success for a party like UKIP. The european elections are what UKIP have always been good at, i'm sure they will come 1st on sunday night, and that really will shake the political world. | |||
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"Could be worse they could tell you there polices then backtrack on them when they get in power . " So you would rather vote for a party that don't tell you what they will do on the basis that they can't back-track? I'd better stand for election and just smile a lot. No policies, no promises but I will keep telling people I am jolly nice. | |||
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"Ah, I see no one can tell me what policies they voted for. Nor how this will revolutionise local politics and how the streets are cleaned and council tax is reduced. The media has made UKIP more of a force to be reckoned with than UKIP could ever manage on their own. They have been around for over 20 years. Why weren't their policies more successful ten years ago or 4 years ago when we had a general election? UKIP has no MPs. It runs no local authorities. It will have an increase in MEPs who will use our tax money to spread the UKIP message here in the UK. If we're lucky they may participate in some EU debates and votes. They will claim their expenses and take their generous EU salary and claim to have revolutionised UK politics. More fool the other parties for indulging them. " You commented on the EU and UKIP mep's in your previous post so my response was in reply to your comments. As for local councils where UKIP have gained seats, i imagine pot holes will continue to be filled, bins will continue to be emptied ,etc and the world will carry on as normal. What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? Sorry but i just don't get it, you're all making mountains out of mole-hills. | |||
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"Could be worse they could tell you there polices then backtrack on them when they get in power . So you would rather vote for a party that don't tell you what they will do on the basis that they can't back-track? I'd better stand for election and just smile a lot. No policies, no promises but I will keep telling people I am jolly nice. " Last time i looked Labour, Lib dems and Conservatives had not released their General election mainifestos yet either. Why should UKIP release theirs when the others have not done so? Miliband wants to tackle the cost of living crisis but he does'nt even know how much his weekly shopping bill is, Lmao. | |||
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"Ah, I see no one can tell me what policies they voted for. Nor how this will revolutionise local politics and how the streets are cleaned and council tax is reduced. The media has made UKIP more of a force to be reckoned with than UKIP could ever manage on their own. They have been around for over 20 years. Why weren't their policies more successful ten years ago or 4 years ago when we had a general election? UKIP has no MPs. It runs no local authorities. It will have an increase in MEPs who will use our tax money to spread the UKIP message here in the UK. If we're lucky they may participate in some EU debates and votes. They will claim their expenses and take their generous EU salary and claim to have revolutionised UK politics. More fool the other parties for indulging them. You commented on the EU and UKIP mep's in your previous post so my response was in reply to your comments. As for local councils where UKIP have gained seats, i imagine pot holes will continue to be filled, bins will continue to be emptied ,etc and the world will carry on as normal. What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? Sorry but i just don't get it, you're all making mountains out of mole-hills." I simply don't understand what policies you the UKIP supporters are voting for. As the success that is being lauded is at the local elections I am trying to understand what UKIP have in their political bag that is relevant at a local council level. I understand votes for UKIP MEPs for those that think it's a way of saying that Britain should have a referendum on EU membership. I think there might be better ways of doing that but I at least understand that voting. | |||
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"Could be worse they could tell you there polices then backtrack on them when they get in power . So you would rather vote for a party that don't tell you what they will do on the basis that they can't back-track? I'd better stand for election and just smile a lot. No policies, no promises but I will keep telling people I am jolly nice. Last time i looked Labour, Lib dems and Conservatives had not released their General election mainifestos yet either. Why should UKIP release theirs when the others have not done so? Miliband wants to tackle the cost of living crisis but he does'nt even know how much his weekly shopping bill is, Lmao. " Locally, the local parties have released their manifestos. That is what I am talking about. I am being unclear about the difference between local, EU and general elections? They are different beasts. There are different messages for each of those. What I don't understand is what their message is at a local level or what their policies are, other than leaving the EU, at a European level. Of course it might just be that I am dim. I'd better warn my clients. | |||
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"Ah, I see no one can tell me what policies they voted for. Nor how this will revolutionise local politics and how the streets are cleaned and council tax is reduced. The media has made UKIP more of a force to be reckoned with than UKIP could ever manage on their own. They have been around for over 20 years. Why weren't their policies more successful ten years ago or 4 years ago when we had a general election? UKIP has no MPs. It runs no local authorities. It will have an increase in MEPs who will use our tax money to spread the UKIP message here in the UK. If we're lucky they may participate in some EU debates and votes. They will claim their expenses and take their generous EU salary and claim to have revolutionised UK politics. More fool the other parties for indulging them. You commented on the EU and UKIP mep's in your previous post so my response was in reply to your comments. As for local councils where UKIP have gained seats, i imagine pot holes will continue to be filled, bins will continue to be emptied ,etc and the world will carry on as normal. What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? Sorry but i just don't get it, you're all making mountains out of mole-hills. I simply don't understand what policies you the UKIP supporters are voting for. As the success that is being lauded is at the local elections I am trying to understand what UKIP have in their political bag that is relevant at a local council level. I understand votes for UKIP MEPs for those that think it's a way of saying that Britain should have a referendum on EU membership. I think there might be better ways of doing that but I at least understand that voting. " Well i could spin that question around and say what is it that Labour, Conservative and Lib dems have in their political bag that is relevant at local council level that people should vote for them? Can anyone honestly say that they know? Seems to me a lot of Labour and Conservative folk vote Labour or Conservative because their parents and grandparents did. I honestly can't think of anything more dumb than that to be honest. | |||
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"threads maxed out faster than any others posted about sex on a swingers site ,ukip are the most popular political party in british hostory ,fact stats prove it conseratives need to form a coalition otherwise there be getting there p 45 ,i would rather not join a coalition and just form full control even if it takes 5 years " Once every year or two ....... some absurdity or other manages to make me smile ..... 'I am not racist I have fucked many black women' ... That is some badge to pass round. | |||
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"Could be worse they could tell you there polices then backtrack on them when they get in power . So you would rather vote for a party that don't tell you what they will do on the basis that they can't back-track? I'd better stand for election and just smile a lot. No policies, no promises but I will keep telling people I am jolly nice. Last time i looked Labour, Lib dems and Conservatives had not released their General election mainifestos yet either. Why should UKIP release theirs when the others have not done so? Miliband wants to tackle the cost of living crisis but he does'nt even know how much his weekly shopping bill is, Lmao. Locally, the local parties have released their manifestos. That is what I am talking about. I am being unclear about the difference between local, EU and general elections? They are different beasts. There are different messages for each of those. What I don't understand is what their message is at a local level or what their policies are, other than leaving the EU, at a European level. Of course it might just be that I am dim. I'd better warn my clients. " So you get copies of all the parties local council elections manifesto's and read through them all before deciding who to vote for then? Politics just does'nt work like that i'm afraid. Many people vote for parties in local council elections on national issues, thats just the way it is. | |||
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" You commented on the EU and UKIP mep's in your previous post so my response was in reply to your comments. As for local councils where UKIP have gained seats, i imagine pot holes will continue to be filled, bins will continue to be emptied ,etc and the world will carry on as normal. What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? Sorry but i just don't get it, you're all making mountains out of mole-hills. I simply don't understand what policies you the UKIP supporters are voting for. As the success that is being lauded is at the local elections I am trying to understand what UKIP have in their political bag that is relevant at a local council level. I understand votes for UKIP MEPs for those that think it's a way of saying that Britain should have a referendum on EU membership. I think there might be better ways of doing that but I at least understand that voting. Well i could spin that question around and say what is it that Labour, Conservative and Lib dems have in their political bag that is relevant at local council level that people should vote for them? Can anyone honestly say that they know? Seems to me a lot of Labour and Conservative folk vote Labour or Conservative because their parents and grandparents did. I honestly can't think of anything more dumb than that to be honest." I agree that just voting for who your parents voted for is dumb. Think for yourself. Labour, Conservative, LibDems, Greens all have policies on schools, education, pre-school care and education, waste management, animal welfare, the environment, high streets and small businesses, health services, equality and diversity... I could go on but these are just a few of the things that sit both nationally and locally. I'm not going to post what I know about these parties policies as I doubt it would interest anyone and would take up more server space and time before dinner than I care to spend. The nub of the question is and has been, what are you (the UKIP voters) voting for? Or, is it that you are voting against something? | |||
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"And again....UKIP can kiss my fat arse... That is all..!! your not head of the bbc's political department are you ?." Not yet.....but always happy to offer my services.... | |||
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"Could be worse they could tell you there polices then backtrack on them when they get in power . So you would rather vote for a party that don't tell you what they will do on the basis that they can't back-track? I'd better stand for election and just smile a lot. No policies, no promises but I will keep telling people I am jolly nice. Last time i looked Labour, Lib dems and Conservatives had not released their General election mainifestos yet either. Why should UKIP release theirs when the others have not done so? Miliband wants to tackle the cost of living crisis but he does'nt even know how much his weekly shopping bill is, Lmao. Locally, the local parties have released their manifestos. That is what I am talking about. I am being unclear about the difference between local, EU and general elections? They are different beasts. There are different messages for each of those. What I don't understand is what their message is at a local level or what their policies are, other than leaving the EU, at a European level. Of course it might just be that I am dim. I'd better warn my clients. So you get copies of all the parties local council elections manifesto's and read through them all before deciding who to vote for then? Politics just does'nt work like that i'm afraid. Many people vote for parties in local council elections on national issues, thats just the way it is." I attend hustings (as a member of the audience and as an independent chair when asked), ask questions, look up what I want to know about. I understand that that is unusual but I take politics seriously. See my post above on local/national issues. | |||
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"If UKIP are so insignificant . Why is everyone getting so upset about them ? I'm not upset about them. It is interesting. I find politics interesting and this close to a general election it is especially interesting. I will be spending the year ahead talking politics everywhere - professionally and socially. Well realistically UKIP are not going to win the next election . But they are going to win a lot more support over the coming years . So maybe one day your talks will be on UKIP " I have been talking about UKIP, and other right of right parties, as well as the mainstream parties for 20 years. They, and their message, is not new to me. What is interesting is the period on time, socially and economically, that they have been able to gain more of a foothold. Link that with a one charismatic, dogmatic and determined person. I would take them much more seriously if they could field anyone other than Nigel Farage without having to have him then come forward and deny what was said. Even he had to back-track on his Romanian comments. That sort of politics doesn't fill me with enough confidence to vote for the party. The party is one person with some hangers on. | |||
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"What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of?" I admit I am afraid of UKIP gaining any power, they are so like the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP) in 1920, different media to the 1920's but just like the DAP they have become magnificent charismatic media manipulators, by 1930 had DAP become the NAZI party, and millions of German people fell for the rhetoric and supported them blindly. I see that happening in the UK, my own father and brother in law are UKIP supporters, simple populist statements e.g. Halal meat being banned, hide the darker reality the actual aim of starving 80% of the Muslim community out of the UK despite the fact that many were born here, hell many of them have parents who were born here. So yes I am afraid, we are human, and we can be led into all sorts of evil in the name of protecting ourself from imaginary threats. | |||
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"If UKIP are so insignificant . Why is everyone getting so upset about them ? I'm not upset about them. It is interesting. I find politics interesting and this close to a general election it is especially interesting. I will be spending the year ahead talking politics everywhere - professionally and socially. Well realistically UKIP are not going to win the next election . But they are going to win a lot more support over the coming years . So maybe one day your talks will be on UKIP I have been talking about UKIP, and other right of right parties, as well as the mainstream parties for 20 years. They, and their message, is not new to me. What is interesting is the period on time, socially and economically, that they have been able to gain more of a foothold. Link that with a one charismatic, dogmatic and determined person. I would take them much more seriously if they could field anyone other than Nigel Farage without having to have him then come forward and deny what was said. Even he had to back-track on his Romanian comments. That sort of politics doesn't fill me with enough confidence to vote for the party. The party is one person with some hangers on. " Yeah because none of the main parties have ever backtracked | |||
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" You commented on the EU and UKIP mep's in your previous post so my response was in reply to your comments. As for local councils where UKIP have gained seats, i imagine pot holes will continue to be filled, bins will continue to be emptied ,etc and the world will carry on as normal. What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? Sorry but i just don't get it, you're all making mountains out of mole-hills. I simply don't understand what policies you the UKIP supporters are voting for. As the success that is being lauded is at the local elections I am trying to understand what UKIP have in their political bag that is relevant at a local council level. I understand votes for UKIP MEPs for those that think it's a way of saying that Britain should have a referendum on EU membership. I think there might be better ways of doing that but I at least understand that voting. Well i could spin that question around and say what is it that Labour, Conservative and Lib dems have in their political bag that is relevant at local council level that people should vote for them? Can anyone honestly say that they know? Seems to me a lot of Labour and Conservative folk vote Labour or Conservative because their parents and grandparents did. I honestly can't think of anything more dumb than that to be honest. I agree that just voting for who your parents voted for is dumb. Think for yourself. Labour, Conservative, LibDems, Greens all have policies on schools, education, pre-school care and education, waste management, animal welfare, the environment, high streets and small businesses, health services, equality and diversity... I could go on but these are just a few of the things that sit both nationally and locally. I'm not going to post what I know about these parties policies as I doubt it would interest anyone and would take up more server space and time before dinner than I care to spend. The nub of the question is and has been, what are you (the UKIP voters) voting for? Or, is it that you are voting against something? " I vote UKIP for many reasons, mainly for the UK to leave the EU or to at the very least have an in/out referendum on EU membership. Other reasons include, taking back control of our borders and cutting immigration, taking back control of our courts and laws from the EU, no to the colossal waste of money that HS2 will be (UKIP are against HS2), no to our armed forces being sent off to fight foreign wars that don't concern us, leaving the European court of human rights so we can deport criminals like Hamza and Choudry a lot quicker, i could go on and on but like you i have limited time before dinner, lol. And finally yes, i am fed up with the political elite and the establishment in westminster, with broken promise after broken promise, sick and tired of being lied to. So there is a hint of anti establishment that goes with voting UKIP aswel. | |||
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"What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? I admit I am afraid of UKIP gaining any power, they are so like the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP) in 1920, different media to the 1920's but just like the DAP they have become magnificent charismatic media manipulators, by 1930 had DAP become the NAZI party, and millions of German people fell for the rhetoric and supported them blindly. I see that happening in the UK, my own father and brother in law are UKIP supporters, simple populist statements e.g. Halal meat being banned, hide the darker reality the actual aim of starving 80% of the Muslim community out of the UK despite the fact that many were born here, hell many of them have parents who were born here. So yes I am afraid, we are human, and we can be led into all sorts of evil in the name of protecting ourself from imaginary threats." Nigel farage is hardly Hitler | |||
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"If UKIP are so insignificant . Why is everyone getting so upset about them ? I'm not upset about them. It is interesting. I find politics interesting and this close to a general election it is especially interesting. I will be spending the year ahead talking politics everywhere - professionally and socially. Well realistically UKIP are not going to win the next election . But they are going to win a lot more support over the coming years . So maybe one day your talks will be on UKIP I have been talking about UKIP, and other right of right parties, as well as the mainstream parties for 20 years. They, and their message, is not new to me. What is interesting is the period on time, socially and economically, that they have been able to gain more of a foothold. Link that with a one charismatic, dogmatic and determined person. I would take them much more seriously if they could field anyone other than Nigel Farage without having to have him then come forward and deny what was said. Even he had to back-track on his Romanian comments. That sort of politics doesn't fill me with enough confidence to vote for the party. The party is one person with some hangers on. Yeah because none of the main parties have ever backtracked " OK, I give up. All I have asked is what is being voted for. Of course the others have back-tracked but at least I knew what I was expecting to hold them to account for. Debate doesn't work if the reply is just to refuse to answer the questions asked with a dismissive one liner. I would have more respect for UKIP voters if they could say what they are voting for. As none has been able to tell me what it is they are voting for I reserve the right to not respect their opinion on public policy. | |||
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"UKIP are very visible that is for sure and it seems they appear bigger than the reality. Of 1886 seats so far, they have won 92. This is not a rise to power thus far, there is a long road ahead for them with plenty of potholes. What perhaps should be worrying for UKIP and Tories, is the big swing towards Labour." Is that the 3% swing since 2010 or the 1% swing since 2012 (according to the BBC this afternoon) | |||
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" You commented on the EU and UKIP mep's in your previous post so my response was in reply to your comments. As for local councils where UKIP have gained seats, i imagine pot holes will continue to be filled, bins will continue to be emptied ,etc and the world will carry on as normal. What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? Sorry but i just don't get it, you're all making mountains out of mole-hills. I simply don't understand what policies you the UKIP supporters are voting for. As the success that is being lauded is at the local elections I am trying to understand what UKIP have in their political bag that is relevant at a local council level. I understand votes for UKIP MEPs for those that think it's a way of saying that Britain should have a referendum on EU membership. I think there might be better ways of doing that but I at least understand that voting. Well i could spin that question around and say what is it that Labour, Conservative and Lib dems have in their political bag that is relevant at local council level that people should vote for them? Can anyone honestly say that they know? Seems to me a lot of Labour and Conservative folk vote Labour or Conservative because their parents and grandparents did. I honestly can't think of anything more dumb than that to be honest. I agree that just voting for who your parents voted for is dumb. Think for yourself. Labour, Conservative, LibDems, Greens all have policies on schools, education, pre-school care and education, waste management, animal welfare, the environment, high streets and small businesses, health services, equality and diversity... I could go on but these are just a few of the things that sit both nationally and locally. I'm not going to post what I know about these parties policies as I doubt it would interest anyone and would take up more server space and time before dinner than I care to spend. The nub of the question is and has been, what are you (the UKIP voters) voting for? Or, is it that you are voting against something? I vote UKIP for many reasons, mainly for the UK to leave the EU or to at the very least have an in/out referendum on EU membership. Other reasons include, taking back control of our borders and cutting immigration, taking back control of our courts and laws from the EU, no to the colossal waste of money that HS2 will be (UKIP are against HS2), no to our armed forces being sent off to fight foreign wars that don't concern us, leaving the European court of human rights so we can deport criminals like Hamza and Choudry a lot quicker, i could go on and on but like you i have limited time before dinner, lol. And finally yes, i am fed up with the political elite and the establishment in westminster, with broken promise after broken promise, sick and tired of being lied to. So there is a hint of anti establishment that goes with voting UKIP aswel." Hallelujah! I can't see how any of that is achieved at local council level but at least I know what you believe you are voting for. | |||
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"What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? I admit I am afraid of UKIP gaining any power, they are so like the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP) in 1920, different media to the 1920's but just like the DAP they have become magnificent charismatic media manipulators, by 1930 had DAP become the NAZI party, and millions of German people fell for the rhetoric and supported them blindly. I see that happening in the UK, my own father and brother in law are UKIP supporters, simple populist statements e.g. Halal meat being banned, hide the darker reality the actual aim of starving 80% of the Muslim community out of the UK despite the fact that many were born here, hell many of them have parents who were born here. So yes I am afraid, we are human, and we can be led into all sorts of evil in the name of protecting ourself from imaginary threats. Nigel farage is hardly Hitler Really Tosh....it seems to be he wants a pure Britain...blonde hair blue eyed nation...I'm not pure English...He might not cause a holocaust etc but his _iews are far from "normal" " He does not at all . He does not want Europe running our country . Telling us what to do and where to go . Telling us to change our rules . Never once heard him say he wanted the perfect race Cheeky | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. This is only the start, just wait until sunday night when the results for the European elections are given, and UKIP come 1st, with more MEP's than Labour, Tory and Lib dems. Would love to see the look on some of your faces, hahahahahaha! Is it really too much for some of you people to hold your hands up and say "you know what UKIP, well done". You may not like it but thousands of people all over the country went out and voted UKIP in a fair and democratic process. Anyone would think the world was going to end reading some of the comments on these UKIP threads. Personally i'm enjoying seeing the political elite politicians from westminster coming on the telly with faces like smacked arses, and admitting they have lost council seats to UKIP. Looking forward to seeing them get their arses smacked again on sunday night when UKIP come 1st in the European elections aswel. " As well? As well as what? UKIP haven't come first in anything... And what on earth in the local results suggests they will come first in the European elections? | |||
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"What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? I admit I am afraid of UKIP gaining any power, they are so like the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP) in 1920, different media to the 1920's but just like the DAP they have become magnificent charismatic media manipulators, by 1930 had DAP become the NAZI party, and millions of German people fell for the rhetoric and supported them blindly. I see that happening in the UK, my own father and brother in law are UKIP supporters, simple populist statements e.g. Halal meat being banned, hide the darker reality the actual aim of starving 80% of the Muslim community out of the UK despite the fact that many were born here, hell many of them have parents who were born here. So yes I am afraid, we are human, and we can be led into all sorts of evil in the name of protecting ourself from imaginary threats. Nigel farage is hardly Hitler Look at the history and tell us when Hitler became the evil Hitler. " I Think David Cameron has more chance of bringing this country to its knees then Nigel Farage could ever do | |||
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"So many muppits vote for them the backward scum bet the voters spend there time throwing rocks at the moon So explain why you are muppet and backward scum if you vote UKIP ? Maybe people may just like some of there policys . Which policies, that can be relevant in a local council, are people supporting? We don't have the results of the EU elections yet but there will be an upswing to UKIP. That in itself is interesting as they have voted to use their taxes to pay people to represent them in the EU who will do that by largely ignoring the EU, certainly for the first year, as they spend their time here campaigning for the General Election. Maybe, like their great leader, they will take EU payments to pay non-British Europeans to work with them. The policies at local council will be what? People may want UKIP mep's to represent them in Brussels because they know a UKIP mep will do everything they can to throw a spanner in the works of the corrupt, undemocratic, and quite frankly criminal European parliament in Brussels. UKIP mep's always vote against any further transfer of power from the UK to the EU. Best way to destroy and organisation like the EU is from the inside out and this is what UKIP are trying to achieve." Yes but the question was what are their policies on a local level? | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. This is only the start, just wait until sunday night when the results for the European elections are given, and UKIP come 1st, with more MEP's than Labour, Tory and Lib dems. Would love to see the look on some of your faces, hahahahahaha! Is it really too much for some of you people to hold your hands up and say "you know what UKIP, well done". You may not like it but thousands of people all over the country went out and voted UKIP in a fair and democratic process. Anyone would think the world was going to end reading some of the comments on these UKIP threads. Personally i'm enjoying seeing the political elite politicians from westminster coming on the telly with faces like smacked arses, and admitting they have lost council seats to UKIP. Looking forward to seeing them get their arses smacked again on sunday night when UKIP come 1st in the European elections aswel. As well? As well as what? UKIP haven't come first in anything... And what on earth in the local results suggests they will come first in the European elections? " Opinion polls . Crystal | |||
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"What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? I admit I am afraid of UKIP gaining any power, they are so like the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP) in 1920, different media to the 1920's but just like the DAP they have become magnificent charismatic media manipulators, by 1930 had DAP become the NAZI party, and millions of German people fell for the rhetoric and supported them blindly. I see that happening in the UK, my own father and brother in law are UKIP supporters, simple populist statements e.g. Halal meat being banned, hide the darker reality the actual aim of starving 80% of the Muslim community out of the UK despite the fact that many were born here, hell many of them have parents who were born here. So yes I am afraid, we are human, and we can be led into all sorts of evil in the name of protecting ourself from imaginary threats. Nigel farage is hardly Hitler " True but by the same token fascism doesn't begin with concentration camps, that's just where it ends | |||
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"If UKIP are so insignificant . Why is everyone getting so upset about them ? I'm not upset about them. It is interesting. I find politics interesting and this close to a general election it is especially interesting. I will be spending the year ahead talking politics everywhere - professionally and socially. Well realistically UKIP are not going to win the next election . But they are going to win a lot more support over the coming years . So maybe one day your talks will be on UKIP I have been talking about UKIP, and other right of right parties, as well as the mainstream parties for 20 years. They, and their message, is not new to me. What is interesting is the period on time, socially and economically, that they have been able to gain more of a foothold. Link that with a one charismatic, dogmatic and determined person. I would take them much more seriously if they could field anyone other than Nigel Farage without having to have him then come forward and deny what was said. Even he had to back-track on his Romanian comments. That sort of politics doesn't fill me with enough confidence to vote for the party. The party is one person with some hangers on. Yeah because none of the main parties have ever backtracked OK, I give up. All I have asked is what is being voted for. Of course the others have back-tracked but at least I knew what I was expecting to hold them to account for. Debate doesn't work if the reply is just to refuse to answer the questions asked with a dismissive one liner. I would have more respect for UKIP voters if they could say what they are voting for. As none has been able to tell me what it is they are voting for I reserve the right to not respect their opinion on public policy. " Considering in a fairly recent inter_iew Farage laughably was incapable of discussing his own manifesto (as taken from their website) it's possibly asking a little much of their supporters to know what is contained in it... | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. This is only the start, just wait until sunday night when the results for the European elections are given, and UKIP come 1st, with more MEP's than Labour, Tory and Lib dems. Would love to see the look on some of your faces, hahahahahaha! Is it really too much for some of you people to hold your hands up and say "you know what UKIP, well done". You may not like it but thousands of people all over the country went out and voted UKIP in a fair and democratic process. Anyone would think the world was going to end reading some of the comments on these UKIP threads. Personally i'm enjoying seeing the political elite politicians from westminster coming on the telly with faces like smacked arses, and admitting they have lost council seats to UKIP. Looking forward to seeing them get their arses smacked again on sunday night when UKIP come 1st in the European elections aswel. As well? As well as what? UKIP haven't come first in anything... And what on earth in the local results suggests they will come first in the European elections? Opinion polls . Crystal Ok so havong effectively fonished 4th in the local elections there are opinion polls saying tgey will win in tge European ones? Seriously? Do you have a link?" The opinion polls suggest they will win seats in the European elections . | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. This is only the start, just wait until sunday night when the results for the European elections are given, and UKIP come 1st, with more MEP's than Labour, Tory and Lib dems. Would love to see the look on some of your faces, hahahahahaha! Is it really too much for some of you people to hold your hands up and say "you know what UKIP, well done". You may not like it but thousands of people all over the country went out and voted UKIP in a fair and democratic process. Anyone would think the world was going to end reading some of the comments on these UKIP threads. Personally i'm enjoying seeing the political elite politicians from westminster coming on the telly with faces like smacked arses, and admitting they have lost council seats to UKIP. Looking forward to seeing them get their arses smacked again on sunday night when UKIP come 1st in the European elections aswel. As well? As well as what? UKIP haven't come first in anything... And what on earth in the local results suggests they will come first in the European elections? Opinion polls . Crystal Ok so havong effectively fonished 4th in the local elections there are opinion polls saying tgey will win in tge European ones? Seriously? Do you have a link? The opinion polls suggest they will win seats in the European elections . " Yea I know. I'm just mystified by tge post I'm responding to clsimingt that they'll 'come first' | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. This is only the start, just wait until sunday night when the results for the European elections are given, and UKIP come 1st, with more MEP's than Labour, Tory and Lib dems. Would love to see the look on some of your faces, hahahahahaha! Is it really too much for some of you people to hold your hands up and say "you know what UKIP, well done". You may not like it but thousands of people all over the country went out and voted UKIP in a fair and democratic process. Anyone would think the world was going to end reading some of the comments on these UKIP threads. Personally i'm enjoying seeing the political elite politicians from westminster coming on the telly with faces like smacked arses, and admitting they have lost council seats to UKIP. Looking forward to seeing them get their arses smacked again on sunday night when UKIP come 1st in the European elections aswel. As well? As well as what? UKIP haven't come first in anything... And what on earth in the local results suggests they will come first in the European elections? Opinion polls . Crystal Ok so havong effectively fonished 4th in the local elections there are opinion polls saying tgey will win in tge European ones? Seriously? Do you have a link?" Which newspapers do you read and what news channels do you watch? Practically all the opinion polls in all the newspapers and on all the news channels on the European elections predict UKIP to come 1st. | |||
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"What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? I admit I am afraid of UKIP gaining any power, they are so like the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP) in 1920, different media to the 1920's but just like the DAP they have become magnificent charismatic media manipulators, by 1930 had DAP become the NAZI party, and millions of German people fell for the rhetoric and supported them blindly. I see that happening in the UK, my own father and brother in law are UKIP supporters, simple populist statements e.g. Halal meat being banned, hide the darker reality the actual aim of starving 80% of the Muslim community out of the UK despite the fact that many were born here, hell many of them have parents who were born here. So yes I am afraid, we are human, and we can be led into all sorts of evil in the name of protecting ourself from imaginary threats. Nigel farage is hardly Hitler Really Tosh....it seems to be he wants a pure Britain...blonde hair blue eyed nation...I'm not pure English...He might not cause a holocaust etc but his _iews are far from "normal" " Sorry cheeky but when has Farage said he wants a blonde hair blue eyed nation? I think people comparing Farage to Hitler really is nonsense, pretty sure Farage does'nt want Britain to start invading other european countries. | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. This is only the start, just wait until sunday night when the results for the European elections are given, and UKIP come 1st, with more MEP's than Labour, Tory and Lib dems. Would love to see the look on some of your faces, hahahahahaha! Is it really too much for some of you people to hold your hands up and say "you know what UKIP, well done". You may not like it but thousands of people all over the country went out and voted UKIP in a fair and democratic process. Anyone would think the world was going to end reading some of the comments on these UKIP threads. Personally i'm enjoying seeing the political elite politicians from westminster coming on the telly with faces like smacked arses, and admitting they have lost council seats to UKIP. Looking forward to seeing them get their arses smacked again on sunday night when UKIP come 1st in the European elections aswel. As well? As well as what? UKIP haven't come first in anything... And what on earth in the local results suggests they will come first in the European elections? Opinion polls . Crystal Ok so havong effectively fonished 4th in the local elections there are opinion polls saying tgey will win in tge European ones? Seriously? Do you have a link? The opinion polls suggest they will win seats in the European elections . Yea I know. I'm just mystified by tge post I'm responding to clsimingt that they'll 'come first'" Well I have just googled . Opinion polls for European elections . And everyone one I read had UKIP top of there opinion polls . | |||
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"Lmao, so many anti UKIP posts on here, seem like a lot of people have got a bad case of sour grapes because of the success UKIP have had overnight in the local council elections. This is only the start, just wait until sunday night when the results for the European elections are given, and UKIP come 1st, with more MEP's than Labour, Tory and Lib dems. Would love to see the look on some of your faces, hahahahahaha! Is it really too much for some of you people to hold your hands up and say "you know what UKIP, well done". You may not like it but thousands of people all over the country went out and voted UKIP in a fair and democratic process. Anyone would think the world was going to end reading some of the comments on these UKIP threads. Personally i'm enjoying seeing the political elite politicians from westminster coming on the telly with faces like smacked arses, and admitting they have lost council seats to UKIP. Looking forward to seeing them get their arses smacked again on sunday night when UKIP come 1st in the European elections aswel. As well? As well as what? UKIP haven't come first in anything... And what on earth in the local results suggests they will come first in the European elections? Opinion polls . Crystal Ok so havong effectively fonished 4th in the local elections there are opinion polls saying tgey will win in tge European ones? Seriously? Do you have a link? The opinion polls suggest they will win seats in the European elections . Yea I know. I'm just mystified by tge post I'm responding to clsimingt that they'll 'come first' Well I have just googled . Opinion polls for European elections . And everyone one I read had UKIP top of there opinion polls . " Just ask yourself this question would you seriously consider they are a party with the personal and policy to govern the UK...if not they remain a party cashing in on the apathy of the electorate towards the main stream parties and wallow in the power of not being responsible for their policies | |||
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"If UKIP are so insignificant . Why is everyone getting so upset about them ? " your right on the first point, they are insignificant in the actual 'can or will make any discernible difference' at local governance.. they have to start taking actual seats in Westminster to begin to be a political party able to form or join a coalition and show what they are capable of.. despite the protest votes against the same old same old by people disenfranchised who have voted for what..? what is their local Government message..? Upset is not a word in reference to a protest vote.. worry for the greater community and society in general that the far right with all the vermin that it attracts will see UKIP as the latest bandwagon to vent their bile from.. | |||
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"What is it the anti UKIP brigade are so afraid of? I admit I am afraid of UKIP gaining any power, they are so like the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP) in 1920, different media to the 1920's but just like the DAP they have become magnificent charismatic media manipulators, by 1930 had DAP become the NAZI party, and millions of German people fell for the rhetoric and supported them blindly. I see that happening in the UK, my own father and brother in law are UKIP supporters, simple populist statements e.g. Halal meat being banned, hide the darker reality the actual aim of starving 80% of the Muslim community out of the UK despite the fact that many were born here, hell many of them have parents who were born here. So yes I am afraid, we are human, and we can be led into all sorts of evil in the name of protecting ourself from imaginary threats. Nigel farage is hardly Hitler " you are right Nigel Farage is hardly Hitler......... .......However when UKIP decide to go into a "voting block" in the European Parliament with Marine Le Pen's "Front National" party for example, then questions will tend to be asked.... oh... and UKIP's Policy of Voting in the European parliament... it is actually "vote against EVERYTHING!".... even those things that would actually help the UK and its citizens...... | |||
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"threads maxed out faster than any others posted about sex on a swingers site , Can you prove that? The thread didn't 'max' out in a positive way though, or are you overoolking that small fact i sat up watching this record rise to power all night ,i have closely followed it all my adult life no party has ever done this well so fast in history i dont read the mail or the mirror but allmost every other paper ,im not rascist my kids godfather is black i have fucked many black women apart from other women from many many nations ,im just a working class realistic person " Can you explain why if they're supposedly rising so rapidly that their actual vote was down six points from last last time. Sounds like they are in decline to me. | |||
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"threads maxed out faster than any others posted about sex on a swingers site , Can you prove that? The thread didn't 'max' out in a positive way though, or are you overoolking that small fact i sat up watching this record rise to power all night ,i have closely followed it all my adult life no party has ever done this well so fast in history i dont read the mail or the mirror but allmost every other paper ,im not rascist my kids godfather is black i have fucked many black women apart from other women from many many nations ,im just a working class realistic person Can you explain why if they're supposedly rising so rapidly that their actual vote was down six points from last last time. Sounds like they are in decline to me. " Vote may well be down but they still have more council seats now as a result. | |||
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"Politicians need to use tact and diplomacy, the rest of us don't. A vote for UKIP is a vote for division, separation and xenophobia. I am not a politician and so I have qualms in saying that UKIP offer simple politics for simple people and from what I see on TV, read in newspapers and see on Internet forums... Even the UKIP hierarchy seem to suggest that they have trouble appealing to people who are media savvy and educated. The reason that they are popular with people who don't want to think too much is because none of their policies have been costed out out. More police, more schools, more nurses does equate to their their other flagpole policy of reduced taxes. It does sound good though doesn't it... We will give you more of everything that you want and take less taxes off you. How? Easy, we will leave the EU and everything will be sorted." A vote for UKIP is also a vote to say you want to leave the EU, tell me where else should people go to vote if they want to send that message? Labour and the LIb dems are pro EU and not offering a referendum, Cameron is offering a referendum in 2017 if he gains power but i suspect he is pro EU aswel. The greens are pro EU, so the only real anti EU party worth voting for are UKIP. How would UKIP pay for the things you mentioned, well leaving the EU would save us around £53 million per day (that is what it costs us in membership fee to be part of the EU). Also cutting foreign aid budget is a UKIP priority, so having more police, more nurses and a flat rate of tax for everyone as UKIP suggest is doable when you take everything into account. I think UKIP would do a better job of balancing the books on the economy that Labour ever have. | |||
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"Love how politicians are now saying that they respect Nigel AND THAT HE ISN'T RACIST! Looks like they realised calling a huge block of society racist for wanting GOOD border control was a bad idea... Anyone who thinks this is like the rise of the Nazi's is completely disgusting and insulting MILLIONS of people who died! Seriously, give your heads a wobble." Fully agree with your last paragraph - comparisons to Hitler/Nazis etc are usually made by people of low intelligence who have have nothing more sensible or logical to say. | |||
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"So many muppits vote for them the backward scum bet the voters spend there time throwing rocks at the moon bit harsh so because someone does not share the same _iews as you they are backwards scum? personally I think taking away peoples freedom of speech is going backwards they are not a party I would vote for but I will defend anyone's right to put their point forwards " Your feet have my vote...... | |||
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"Love how politicians are now saying that they respect Nigel AND THAT HE ISN'T RACIST! Looks like they realised calling a huge block of society racist for wanting GOOD border control was a bad idea... Anyone who thinks this is like the rise of the Nazi's is completely disgusting and insulting MILLIONS of people who died! Seriously, give your heads a wobble. Fully agree with your last paragraph - comparisons to Hitler/Nazis etc are usually made by people of low intelligence who have have nothing more sensible or logical to say. " | |||
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"leaving the EU would save us around £53 million per day" That sounds like a lot, but putting it into context that is slightly less than the cost of a newspaper each. Flat tax rate is fine, but how much is the question, poor people tend to spend 100% of income so pay all other taxes e.g. excise duty and VAT on 100% of income whilst those who earn a lot tend to save some money so don't pay the extra taxes, so flat rate isn't necessarily as equal as it sounds. | |||
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"Fully agree with your last paragraph - comparisons to Hitler/Nazis etc are usually made by people of low intelligence who have have nothing more sensible or logical to say. " Do you mean Hitler the injured war hero, who was put into the Democratic Workers Party in 1919 as a spy for the government, who then became a convert and rallied against the immigrants stealing the jobs of decent honest German workers? | |||
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"Love how politicians are now saying that they respect Nigel AND THAT HE ISN'T RACIST! Looks like they realised calling a huge block of society racist for wanting GOOD border control was a bad idea... Anyone who thinks this is like the rise of the Nazi's is completely disgusting and insulting MILLIONS of people who died! Seriously, give your heads a wobble. Fully agree with your last paragraph - comparisons to Hitler/Nazis etc are usually made by people of low intelligence who have have nothing more sensible or logical to say. " perhaps we could have your sensible and logical _iew. | |||
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"He does not at all . He does not want Europe running our country . Telling us what to do and where to go . Telling us to change our rules . Never once heard him say he wanted the perfect race Cheeky " One of the UKIP policies is forced termination of children with genetic "defects". Is that not a rather large sign of what sort of population he wants for the country. Their policy is that we should kill those deemed imperfect before they are born. How much clearer could they be? | |||
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"He does not at all . He does not want Europe running our country . Telling us what to do and where to go . Telling us to change our rules . Never once heard him say he wanted the perfect race Cheeky One of the UKIP policies is forced termination of children with genetic "defects". Is that not a rather large sign of what sort of population he wants for the country. Their policy is that we should kill those deemed imperfect before they are born. How much clearer could they be?" Is it policy or one of the more "eccentric" as N.Farage calls them, _iews of a party member? I admit that it's a dangerous _iew to hold and I wouldn't want anyone in power who might try and make it policy. These things happen precisely because people believe they never will, because they think it isn't the same and because they turn the other way. Keep looking in the other direction and there will be no one left to help when they come for you. | |||
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"I think a lot of people on here are mistaking Ukip for the Bnp " It's easy to see why though. | |||
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"I think a lot of people on here are mistaking Ukip for the Bnp I think a lot of people are simply believing the media hype." That's why I went to the ukip went site to read their policies......it froze my pc lol. | |||
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"I think a lot of people on here are mistaking Ukip for the Bnp I think a lot of people are simply believing the media hype." Think a lot of people here are believing the media . Full stop | |||
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"He does not at all . He does not want Europe running our country . Telling us what to do and where to go . Telling us to change our rules . Never once heard him say he wanted the perfect race Cheeky One of the UKIP policies is forced termination of children with genetic "defects". Is that not a rather large sign of what sort of population he wants for the country. Their policy is that we should kill those deemed imperfect before they are born. How much clearer could they be? Is it policy or one of the more "eccentric" as N.Farage calls them, _iews of a party member? I admit that it's a dangerous _iew to hold and I wouldn't want anyone in power who might try and make it policy. These things happen precisely because people believe they never will, because they think it isn't the same and because they turn the other way. Keep looking in the other direction and there will be no one left to help when they come for you." It was something a number of candidates supported until Geoffrey Clarke said it and it was noticed. There was an uproar and Mr. Clarke was suspended. Publicly the party now deny this is their line. I'm less than convinced. | |||
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"Get real " That is real, check your history books, took another 5 years before he rose to power in the party. | |||
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"Get real That is real, check your history books, took another 5 years before he rose to power in the party. " So Nigel farage is going to start world war 3 ? ??? | |||
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"Get real That is real, check your history books, took another 5 years before he rose to power in the party. " I feel sorry for people like you. Somewhere along the line, something went wrong. *Pats on back* It's okay, the Nazi's aren't coming! | |||
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"He does not at all . He does not want Europe running our country . Telling us what to do and where to go . Telling us to change our rules . Never once heard him say he wanted the perfect race Cheeky I One of the UKIP policies is forced termination of children with genetic "defects". Is that not a rather large sign of what sort of population he wants for the country. Their policy is that we should kill those deemed imperfect before they are born. How much clearer could they be?" Was that in the Sun ? | |||
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"Fully agree with your last paragraph - comparisons to Hitler/Nazis etc are usually made by people of low intelligence who have have nothing more sensible or logical to say. Do you mean Hitler the injured war hero, who was put into the Democratic Workers Party in 1919 as a spy for the government, who then became a convert and rallied against the immigrants stealing the jobs of decent honest German workers?" So now you think next on the agenda for Farage is to invade other european countries and set up concentration camps to exterminate the Jews? Honestly cannot take people comparing Farage/UKIP to Hitler/Nazis seriously. | |||
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