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"Yes I always put my hands up to admit I've done wrong. I have come across many in the past that don't, can be arrogant to me Just my thoughts
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"only if im arguing about a factual issue. IF your arguing about something you believe in then as long as its what your truly believe to be right and true, then you can never be wrong." That's an interesting point actually. I guess you CAN be wrong but believe you are right. I agree with what you said anyway ... for the time being | |||
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"I spend my life apologising for insensitive shit I say, and sometimes even stuff I've not done but someones still taken offence. Part of me thinks people need to toughen up and not be so easily offended but on the flipside I don't wish to hurt peoples feelings. " Surely that has a flipside in that you shouldn't be so worried in offending people? Being wrong and apologising is one thing, but being right and apologising is another. | |||
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"I spend my life apologising for insensitive shit I say, and sometimes even stuff I've not done but someones still taken offence. Part of me thinks people need to toughen up and not be so easily offended but on the flipside I don't wish to hurt peoples feelings. Surely that has a flipside in that you shouldn't be so worried in offending people? Being wrong and apologising is one thing, but being right and apologising is another." Sometimes the relationship is worth far more than being right? | |||
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"I spend my life apologising for insensitive shit I say, and sometimes even stuff I've not done but someones still taken offence. Part of me thinks people need to toughen up and not be so easily offended but on the flipside I don't wish to hurt peoples feelings. Surely that has a flipside in that you shouldn't be so worried in offending people? Being wrong and apologising is one thing, but being right and apologising is another. Sometimes the relationship is worth far more than being right? "Abso bloody lutely. I'd care more for the dignity of 'certain' others more for than proving I am right. My ageing dad was one .. my struggling kids are others and any decent friend and human being. | |||
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"I spend my life apologising for insensitive shit I say, and sometimes even stuff I've not done but someones still taken offence. Part of me thinks people need to toughen up and not be so easily offended but on the flipside I don't wish to hurt peoples feelings. Surely that has a flipside in that you shouldn't be so worried in offending people? Being wrong and apologising is one thing, but being right and apologising is another. Sometimes the relationship is worth far more than being right?
Abso bloody lutely.
I'd care more for the dignity of 'certain' others more for than proving I am right.
My ageing dad was one .. my struggling kids are others and any decent friend and human being."Totally agree Granny | |||
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"I cant see it ever happening but if there does come a time that i am wrong i like to think that i would put my hands up and say sorry. perfection is a burden sometimes.
Gimp"Oh Lord it's hard to be humble .... as the song goes
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"only if im arguing about a factual issue. IF your arguing about something you believe in then as long as its what your truly believe to be right and true, then you can never be wrong. That's an interesting point actually. I guess you CAN be wrong but believe you are right. I agree with what you said anyway ... for the time being "see, everyone takes the piss out of me because i tend to see things black and white, no grey areas, but i always say, you cant make decisions with maybes. if someone asks me a question, they get what i honestly believe on the subject, rightly or wrongly, im honest with them, and to myself (thats how i sleep at night lol) so you can only be wrong if your opinion doesnt match what they want to hear. however, if someone asks you, say, the capital of nigeria, and you tell them its Paris, then i tend to agree your wrong lol | |||
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"I only operate on the basis of different degrees of right. I don't see anything wrong with that. " Thats the right angle to take on it 
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"So where is Paris then ?" dunno, somewhere bloody foreign | |||
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"I always apologise if i'm in the wrong. The person who decides if I am wrong is ME. We all operate by our own moral compasses and that is the way it should be. I don't fall for the attempts at intimidation , bullying, deflection , alarm, upset , apparent offense and general twattyness of those that want to take some kind of moral high ground. I don't mind apologising or eating humble pie. It's good for my own feelings and recovery from situations - but like I say I decide if i'm in the wrong not anyone else. Though I will say how unfortunate it is that you are upset if you insist on being upset and making poor social situations through your own illogical behaviour and reasoning and need to take umbrage at the every utterance or action of others. If someone upsets me I do let them know but not in a public display. MOST public displays of offence are made by simplistic beings with agendas or overly desparate needs to elevate themselves via the put down of others. " Excellent point, wish I could get to this point but being quite self-critical I invariably decide I am wrong. And my general desire to crack a joke often goes down like a lead balloon. EG I once heckled a woman in a jovial way in a presentation (it was a small friendly affair, just our team and we got on well) she was 10 years older than me. She burst into tears afterwards and told I colleague I'd humiliated her. Instinctively I thought 'grow up woman' but my actions didn't reflect that. I don't know what else was going on in her head was one thing I considered, plus by this time everyone was making a fuss saying 'shes crying' and I just thought, you can stop this drama and diffuse the situation, just go say sorry. So despite thinking I'd been joshing and she'd been ridiculously sensitive I said sorry. | |||
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"only if im arguing about a factual issue. IF your arguing about something you believe in then as long as its what your truly believe to be right and true, then you can never be wrong." I don't argue if it's someone's beliefs/ opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just because it's different to mine, doesn't mean it's wrong. If they said the sky was yellow I'd go with it. Maybe it is yellow in their eyes. | |||
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"So where is Paris then ?" Making another sex tape, on a yacht, probably. Lucky bitch. | |||
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"I always apologise if i'm in the wrong. The person who decides if I am wrong is ME. We all operate by our own moral compasses and that is the way it should be. I don't fall for the attempts at intimidation , bullying, deflection , alarm, upset , apparent offense and general twattyness of those that want to take some kind of moral high ground. I don't mind apologising or eating humble pie. It's good for my own feelings and recovery from situations - but like I say I decide if i'm in the wrong not anyone else. Though I will say how unfortunate it is that you are upset if you insist on being upset and making poor social situations through your own illogical behaviour and reasoning and need to take umbrage at the every utterance or action of others. If someone upsets me I do let them know but not in a public display. MOST public displays of offence are made by simplistic beings with agendas or overly desparate needs to elevate themselves via the put down of others. Excellent point, wish I could get to this point but being quite self-critical I invariably decide I am wrong. And my general desire to crack a joke often goes down like a lead balloon. EG I once heckled a woman in a jovial way in a presentation (it was a small friendly affair, just our team and we got on well) she was 10 years older than me. She burst into tears afterwards and told I colleague I'd humiliated her. Instinctively I thought 'grow up woman' but my actions didn't reflect that. I don't know what else was going on in her head was one thing I considered, plus by this time everyone was making a fuss saying 'shes crying' and I just thought, you can stop this drama and diffuse the situation, just go say sorry. So despite thinking I'd been joshing and she'd been ridiculously sensitive I said sorry. " Oof ! Cringy nightmare situation. The cryer always wins too .... no one will consider how you feel. You will be the bastard if someone cries. It's a learning curve. Jokes are great crowd pleasers but NEVER EVER EVER make it against someone else..... not cos it's wrong but because it becomes their weapon and you lose..... doesn't matter what your intention was. You lose. | |||
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"I always apologise if i'm in the wrong. The person who decides if I am wrong is ME. We all operate by our own moral compasses and that is the way it should be. I don't fall for the attempts at intimidation , bullying, deflection , alarm, upset , apparent offense and general twattyness of those that want to take some kind of moral high ground. I don't mind apologising or eating humble pie. It's good for my own feelings and recovery from situations - but like I say I decide if i'm in the wrong not anyone else. Though I will say how unfortunate it is that you are upset if you insist on being upset and making poor social situations through your own illogical behaviour and reasoning and need to take umbrage at the every utterance or action of others. If someone upsets me I do let them know but not in a public display. MOST public displays of offence are made by simplistic beings with agendas or overly desparate needs to elevate themselves via the put down of others. Excellent point, wish I could get to this point but being quite self-critical I invariably decide I am wrong. And my general desire to crack a joke often goes down like a lead balloon. EG I once heckled a woman in a jovial way in a presentation (it was a small friendly affair, just our team and we got on well) she was 10 years older than me. She burst into tears afterwards and told I colleague I'd humiliated her. Instinctively I thought 'grow up woman' but my actions didn't reflect that. I don't know what else was going on in her head was one thing I considered, plus by this time everyone was making a fuss saying 'shes crying' and I just thought, you can stop this drama and diffuse the situation, just go say sorry. So despite thinking I'd been joshing and she'd been ridiculously sensitive I said sorry. Oof ! Cringy nightmare situation. The cryer always wins too .... no one will consider how you feel. You will be the bastard if someone cries. It's a learning curve. Jokes are great crowd pleasers but NEVER EVER EVER make it against someone else..... not cos it's wrong but because it becomes their weapon and you lose..... doesn't matter what your intention was. You lose. " Exactly and these are the situations where I tend to trip up, it's childish excitement that leads to it and I never ever intend harm, so i recognise that I am actually at least partly to blame. Interestingly I've only ever really upset women, men just give back what they get, probably the reason I've not had a female friend for 20 years. | |||
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"Depends who it is...if it's some right smart arse tosser I would rather stick pins in my eyes " | |||
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"Depends who it is...if it's some right smart arse tosser I would rather stick pins in my eyes "What's a smart arse tosser ? | |||
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"I always apologise if i'm in the wrong. The person who decides if I am wrong is ME. We all operate by our own moral compasses and that is the way it should be. I don't fall for the attempts at intimidation , bullying, deflection , alarm, upset , apparent offense and general twattyness of those that want to take some kind of moral high ground. I don't mind apologising or eating humble pie. It's good for my own feelings and recovery from situations - but like I say I decide if i'm in the wrong not anyone else. Though I will say how unfortunate it is that you are upset if you insist on being upset and making poor social situations through your own illogical behaviour and reasoning and need to take umbrage at the every utterance or action of others. If someone upsets me I do let them know but not in a public display. MOST public displays of offence are made by simplistic beings with agendas or overly desparate needs to elevate themselves via the put down of others. Excellent point, wish I could get to this point but being quite self-critical I invariably decide I am wrong. And my general desire to crack a joke often goes down like a lead balloon. EG I once heckled a woman in a jovial way in a presentation (it was a small friendly affair, just our team and we got on well) she was 10 years older than me. She burst into tears afterwards and told I colleague I'd humiliated her. Instinctively I thought 'grow up woman' but my actions didn't reflect that. I don't know what else was going on in her head was one thing I considered, plus by this time everyone was making a fuss saying 'shes crying' and I just thought, you can stop this drama and diffuse the situation, just go say sorry. So despite thinking I'd been joshing and she'd been ridiculously sensitive I said sorry. Oof ! Cringy nightmare situation. The cryer always wins too .... no one will consider how you feel. You will be the bastard if someone cries. It's a learning curve. Jokes are great crowd pleasers but NEVER EVER EVER make it against someone else..... not cos it's wrong but because it becomes their weapon and you lose..... doesn't matter what your intention was. You lose. Exactly and these are the situations where I tend to trip up, it's childish excitement that leads to it and I never ever intend harm, so i recognise that I am actually at least partly to blame. Interestingly I've only ever really upset women, men just give back what they get, probably the reason I've not had a female friend for 20 years." Different argument entirely but I believe that generally , women are socialised into weeping their way out of situations. I'm not typically female either. | |||
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"Depends who it is...if it's some right smart arse tosser I would rather stick pins in my eyes
What's a smart arse tosser ? "Go and stand where you usually brush your teeth and you should be able to see one. | |||
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"I always apologise if i'm in the wrong. The person who decides if I am wrong is ME. We all operate by our own moral compasses and that is the way it should be. I don't fall for the attempts at intimidation , bullying, deflection , alarm, upset , apparent offense and general twattyness of those that want to take some kind of moral high ground. I don't mind apologising or eating humble pie. It's good for my own feelings and recovery from situations - but like I say I decide if i'm in the wrong not anyone else. Though I will say how unfortunate it is that you are upset if you insist on being upset and making poor social situations through your own illogical behaviour and reasoning and need to take umbrage at the every utterance or action of others. If someone upsets me I do let them know but not in a public display. MOST public displays of offence are made by simplistic beings with agendas or overly desparate needs to elevate themselves via the put down of others. Excellent point, wish I could get to this point but being quite self-critical I invariably decide I am wrong. And my general desire to crack a joke often goes down like a lead balloon. EG I once heckled a woman in a jovial way in a presentation (it was a small friendly affair, just our team and we got on well) she was 10 years older than me. She burst into tears afterwards and told I colleague I'd humiliated her. Instinctively I thought 'grow up woman' but my actions didn't reflect that. I don't know what else was going on in her head was one thing I considered, plus by this time everyone was making a fuss saying 'shes crying' and I just thought, you can stop this drama and diffuse the situation, just go say sorry. So despite thinking I'd been joshing and she'd been ridiculously sensitive I said sorry. Oof ! Cringy nightmare situation. The cryer always wins too .... no one will consider how you feel. You will be the bastard if someone cries. It's a learning curve. Jokes are great crowd pleasers but NEVER EVER EVER make it against someone else..... not cos it's wrong but because it becomes their weapon and you lose..... doesn't matter what your intention was. You lose. Exactly and these are the situations where I tend to trip up, it's childish excitement that leads to it and I never ever intend harm, so i recognise that I am actually at least partly to blame. Interestingly I've only ever really upset women, men just give back what they get, probably the reason I've not had a female friend for 20 years." Some women give back what they get too. Often with interest. 
My degree is in a male dominated subject and I worked in a heavily male dominated environment until I got ill.
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"I always apologise if i'm in the wrong. The person who decides if I am wrong is ME. We all operate by our own moral compasses and that is the way it should be. I don't fall for the attempts at intimidation , bullying, deflection , alarm, upset , apparent offense and general twattyness of those that want to take some kind of moral high ground. I don't mind apologising or eating humble pie. It's good for my own feelings and recovery from situations - but like I say I decide if i'm in the wrong not anyone else. Though I will say how unfortunate it is that you are upset if you insist on being upset and making poor social situations through your own illogical behaviour and reasoning and need to take umbrage at the every utterance or action of others. If someone upsets me I do let them know but not in a public display. MOST public displays of offence are made by simplistic beings with agendas or overly desparate needs to elevate themselves via the put down of others. Excellent point, wish I could get to this point but being quite self-critical I invariably decide I am wrong. And my general desire to crack a joke often goes down like a lead balloon. EG I once heckled a woman in a jovial way in a presentation (it was a small friendly affair, just our team and we got on well) she was 10 years older than me. She burst into tears afterwards and told I colleague I'd humiliated her. Instinctively I thought 'grow up woman' but my actions didn't reflect that. I don't know what else was going on in her head was one thing I considered, plus by this time everyone was making a fuss saying 'shes crying' and I just thought, you can stop this drama and diffuse the situation, just go say sorry. So despite thinking I'd been joshing and she'd been ridiculously sensitive I said sorry. Oof ! Cringy nightmare situation. The cryer always wins too .... no one will consider how you feel. You will be the bastard if someone cries. It's a learning curve. Jokes are great crowd pleasers but NEVER EVER EVER make it against someone else..... not cos it's wrong but because it becomes their weapon and you lose..... doesn't matter what your intention was. You lose. Exactly and these are the situations where I tend to trip up, it's childish excitement that leads to it and I never ever intend harm, so i recognise that I am actually at least partly to blame. Interestingly I've only ever really upset women, men just give back what they get, probably the reason I've not had a female friend for 20 years. Different argument entirely but I believe that generally , women are socialised into weeping their way out of situations. I'm not typically female either." I'd rather gouge out my own eyes with a spork than cry in public, to win sympathy or get out of a situation. | |||
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"only if im arguing about a factual issue. IF your arguing about something you believe in then as long as its what your truly believe to be right and true, then you can never be wrong. I don't argue if it's someone's beliefs/ opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just because it's different to mine, doesn't mean it's wrong. If they said the sky was yellow I'd go with it. Maybe it is yellow in their eyes. " oh, dont get me wrong, if we are discussing opinions i never say theirs is wrong either, i just wont accept that mine is. its more of a point of someone asking me my opinion about something, and if it doesnt match theirs, they want to argue the toss. i will never back down if its what i believe to be true, or right, in that situation. of course, they always have the opportunity to just not bloody ask me lol | |||
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