FabSwingers.com forum: The Invention of Lying

By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

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It might help if you have seen the film... but...

Would you survive in a world without lying?

Would you cope if you could only tell the truth?

Would you cope with only ever hearing the truth?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What ya mean "does my ass look big in this" type of lies??????

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"What ya mean "does my ass look big in this" type of lies??????

ALL lies... lol

No more "oh I'm sorry to hear that you have been through so much hardship" when you are really thinking "get a grip, no wonder he left you for the milkman if you can't even be bothered to pluck that mono-brow"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmm when Ricky Javaise tells a woman the world will end if they don't have sex!

Some people can't handle the truth i find!

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

it's in the nature of the beast to lie.

And i know i'm going to get a fair amount of abuse for that line too.

But not one of us on this site can say honestly that WE have NEVER LIED , the nature of who we are and what we do in our private lives will and does lead us to LIE to certain members whom we are acquainted to. Like i said is the nature of the beast

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we could rid the world of all kinds of Political Correctness, then yes, we would all aclimatise to it, but we tell porkies for all kinds of reasons.

If it's ever ok, to do it, in my mind can only be to prevent hurting someones feelings.

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

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Some people can't handle the truth i find! "

Yet they say "feedback is a gift"

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

By nature im not a lier. When i say lier i mean tell great big porkies or be a walter mitty. But i was watching a programme and its actually amazing how many times we "bend the truth" without even realizing we are doing it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It might help if you have seen the film... but...

Would you survive in a world without lying?

Would you cope if you could only tell the truth?

Would you cope with only ever hearing the truth?

1/No

2/No

3/Yes but the gobshite might not

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Yes

Possibly not.

What would be the effect on a number of profiles if we had to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

Possibly not.

What would be the effect on a number of profiles if we had to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

In some cases it would be fucking hilarious for the viewers and devastating for the profile owners.

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Yes

Possibly not.

What would be the effect on a number of profiles if we had to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

now that would be funny!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think I'd like it. Might take some getting used to as it's not the way of the world, but you'd cope with it eventually. I generally always would prefer to hear the truth, rather than what people think I'd like to hear. Whether it's harsh or not, I don't like to be lulled into a false sense of security and prefer to hear things at face value, then at least I know and can deal with that in my own way.

Did think the film was good, but thought if you couldn't lie, wouldn't necessarily mean you'd have to blatantly say things to peoples faces like they did. Surely you'd have the choice of not saying anything, just if you did say something it would have to be the truth.

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Think of the positives… anyone who relies on manipulating people would be in the shite lol

Child-groomers would not be able to groom.

People who prey on the weak and vulnerable by pretending to be friends whilst harbouring an ulterior motive.

Fake profiles… thing of the past.

Creeps and arse kissers…. all gone or at least exposed.

Would hearing the truth be too high a price to pay to live in a world without some of the scum?

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"Think of the positives… anyone who relies on manipulating people would be in the shite lol

Child-groomers would not be able to groom.

People who prey on the weak and vulnerable by pretending to be friends whilst harbouring an ulterior motive.

Fake profiles… thing of the past.

Creeps and arse kissers…. all gone or at least exposed.

Would hearing the truth be too high a price to pay to live in a world without some of the scum?

..hmmmm it would have its potential draw backs multi billion pound advertising industry would be scaled back .

Most newspapers would be blank or stuck for what to say

Most company brochures and peripheral service industries scrapped after admitting they have little if any effect on output, sales or there product is crap

Tourism might drop especially after saying this is yet another ordinary average castle just like all the others you have seen.

People may pass away quicker as they lose all hope...sorry your totally fucked there is no cure and like everyone else eventually is, you will die ..just far sooner..but cheer up at least you know.

or maybe something like ...sorry i dont want to fuck you or be with you no more as you have got fat and i feel i can do better, so your in the bin mate or luv

Maybe even, dont bother saving the planet its fucked, all of it ...its slowly being sucked into a black hole in the middle of the galaxy..thats if the sun going supernova doesnt incinerate it like an iron filing first or an asteroid hits us .....what ? dont be scared little girl dont cry..

What a cruel world that would be, honest i grant you ....but oh so harsh.

and far too high a price to pay,for a new collective moral turpitude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It might help if you have seen the film... but...

Would you survive in a world without lying?

Would you cope if you could only tell the truth?

Would you cope with only ever hearing the truth?

It depends on how you look at things. Lying is to blatantly tell untruths but its not the same as telling the whole truth. You can choose to tell the limited truth or say nothing at all as both are not lies.

Lies can be a way of softening a blow but in reality you find many use lying to pervert a vision in their image.

Would the world survive? Yes i am sure it would but i am not sure about the human race.

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"Think of the positives… anyone who relies on manipulating people would be in the shite lol

Child-groomers would not be able to groom.

People who prey on the weak and vulnerable by pretending to be friends whilst harbouring an ulterior motive.

Fake profiles… thing of the past.

Creeps and arse kissers…. all gone or at least exposed.

Would hearing the truth be too high a price to pay to live in a world without some of the scum?

..hmmmm it would have its potential draw backs multi billion pound advertising industry would be scaled back .

Most newspapers would be blank or stuck for what to say

Most company brochures and peripheral service industries scrapped after admitting they have little if any effect on output, sales or there product is crap

Tourism might drop especially after saying this is yet another ordinary average castle just like all the others you have seen.

People may pass away quicker as they lose all hope...sorry your totally fucked there is no cure and like everyone else eventually is, you will die ..just far sooner..but cheer up at least you know.

or maybe something like ...sorry i dont want to fuck you or be with you no more as you have got fat and i feel i can do better, so your in the bin mate or luv

What a cruel world that would be, honest i grant you ....but oh so harsh.

and far too high a price to pay,for a new collective moral turpitude.

Think of the time you'd save by not clinging on to a dead relationship.

Companies which did live up to their word... or at least genuinely try to.

News papers with actual and factual news in them.

Tourists finding exaclty what they paid and expected to find. You could book a trip anywhere and know for sure it wasn't a photo of somewhere else and the hotel wasn't a building site.

You're partner saying "I know you've got fat but I know I can't do any better than you as I get told everyday how lucky I am to even have you to shag and a few guys at work would be around to comfort you if I ever left".

People might just make the most of their last days instead of wishing them away with denial and false hope.

As for knowing the world is fucked and we will all die.... don't we know that already? Don't we know about super vocanoes and the like?

Wouldn't we stand a better chance if bio-teccies said "can I have some funding for this virus which might wipe out the planet if one of us sell it or lose a memory stick on a train"

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

How could you express "opinion" , your OP assumes preset results uncertain therefore not truth ,why even seek opinion if it is just a collection of assumptions-opinions not based upon truth ?

There will always be areas of grey ,areas of false perception.

Or do you mean truth as the individual percieves it,without penalty or stigma for being wrong?

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

how much religion would remain, false gods and all that, and would that be a bad thing?

and when a woman screams, "my god i'm coming" ( i'm told they do you know ) would you be able to believe her ?

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

Simple... choice, we all still have the freedom of choice. We all would still have preferences, likes and not likes. There would still be unknowns and searches for truth.... but at least you'd know why people were searching.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

but once you accept there is half truth based on choice or personal perception you do not have pure truth surely?

How would you know you have truth if its only perception and there are a million + perceptions ,,,,,a million + truths or a very slow world where nothing is definitive until proven absolute,every minute detail pulled apart....sounds drab.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

but once you accept there is half truth based on choice or personal perception you do not have pure truth surely?

what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

but once you accept there is half truth based on choice or personal perception you do not have pure truth surely?

what?

They are saying - be good and say it how it is - or else!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What ya mean "does my ass look big in this" type of lies??????

Reply should always be. No! Your arse IS big

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What ya mean "does my ass look big in this" type of lies??????

Reply should always be. No! Your arse IS big "

Or ya ass looks big in everything lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Serious note : 5 people watch an event, say an accident. You will have 5 witness reports, all are somewhat different depending on their physical perspective (and possibly interpretation) - and 5 people would have told the truth.

Its post modernism - the coexistence of several truths!

Simple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What ya mean "does my ass look big in this" type of lies??????

Reply should always be. No! Your arse IS big "

Oy you talking to me ?

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"What ya mean "does my ass look big in this" type of lies??????

Reply should always be. No! Your arse IS big "

lmfao.....classic

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

isn't it an eternal truth that no matter how big your arse is, there is always a bigger one

though i do recall mrs mushroom once stating "he's the biggest arsehole in britain"

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

isn't it an eternal truth that no matter how big your arse is, there is always a bigger one

though i do recall mrs mushroom once stating "he's the biggest arsehole in britain""
no i know there are bigger ones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

isn't it an eternal truth that no matter how big your arse is, there is always a bigger one

though i do recall mrs mushroom once stating "he's the biggest arsehole in britain""

That's the theory of relativity

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

isn't it an eternal truth that no matter how big your arse is, there is always a bigger one

though i do recall mrs mushroom once stating "he's the biggest arsehole in britain""

lmfao ...that is funny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

isn't it an eternal truth that no matter how big your arse is, there is always a bigger one

though i do recall mrs mushroom once stating "he's the biggest arsehole in britain"no i know there are bigger ones

Ya on about me again aint ya xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The reduction in benefit theft would be enormous. Just thin about claim day. Mr smith have you been working since we last met.....Err yes!

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

isn't it an eternal truth that no matter how big your arse is, there is always a bigger one

though i do recall mrs mushroom once stating "he's the biggest arsehole in britain"no i know there are bigger ones

Ya on about me again aint ya xx

closer to home i think

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By *ebzStarWoman
over a year ago

Notting

isn't it an eternal truth that no matter how big your arse is, there is always a bigger one

though i do recall mrs mushroom once stating "he's the biggest arsehole in britain"no i know there are bigger ones

Ya on about me again aint ya xx

its always me me me with you isnt it, pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

isn't it an eternal truth that no matter how big your arse is, there is always a bigger one

though i do recall mrs mushroom once stating "he's the biggest arsehole in britain"no i know there are bigger ones

Ya on about me again aint ya xx

its always me me me with you isnt it, pmsl

Yup lol like a little kid xx

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"The reduction in benefit theft would be enormous. Just thin about claim day. Mr smith have you been working since we last met.....Err yes!

Or alternatively :

"Are there any jobs this week?"

"No. Don't bother coming back.!

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"The reduction in benefit theft would be enormous. Just thin about claim day. Mr smith have you been working since we last met.....Err yes!

Or alternatively :

"Are there any jobs this week?"

"No. Don't bother coming back.!"

or even ...right your shopping bill is 35 quid ..plus the other 40 quid i want for the common agricultural policy ..

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Or :

a) of course i#m on the pill

b) i promise i won't come in yer mouth ( even if you do have nice teeth

)

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

but once you accept there is half truth based on choice or personal perception you do not have pure truth surely?

I see you seem to be struggling with the differences between fact, opinion and outright lying.

Lying... stating as fact that which you know not to be true.

Opinions are rarely facts... otherwise we'd call them facts instead of opinions. Opinions may be largely based on facts, assumptions, experiences and a whole host of other things... but they are opinions and so in a world without lies would be stated as such.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

but once you accept there is half truth based on choice or personal perception you do not have pure truth surely?

I see you seem to be struggling with the differences between fact, opinion and outright lying.

Lying... stating as fact that which you know not to be true.

no struggle who mentioned opinion..?

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

the real question is, without lying,

where would all the solicitors go?

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

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"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

but once you accept there is half truth based on choice or personal perception you do not have pure truth surely?

I see you seem to be struggling with the differences between fact, opinion and outright lying.

Lying... stating as fact that which you know not to be true.

no struggle who mentioned opinion..?

You appeared to suggest people wouldn't have one anymore.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

but once you accept there is half truth based on choice or personal perception you do not have pure truth surely?

I see you seem to be struggling with the differences between fact, opinion and outright lying.

Lying... stating as fact that which you know not to be true.

no struggle who mentioned opinion..?

You appeared to suggest people wouldn't have one anymore."

no your wrong i didnt, so that is an untruth its easy to make a mistake isnt it

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

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"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

but once you accept there is half truth based on choice or personal perception you do not have pure truth surely?

I see you seem to be struggling with the differences between fact, opinion and outright lying.

Lying... stating as fact that which you know not to be true.

no struggle who mentioned opinion..?

You appeared to suggest people wouldn't have one anymore.

no your wrong i didnt, so that is an untruth its easy to make a mistake isnt it

The why omit them in your comments? Or were you trying to make a half truth conclusion?

I’ll just take it that your answer is no – you wouldn’t cope... and as you say... would find the world dull without lies.

Me personally, I don't think it would be dull... it may well be a tad more dangerous for a few folk

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

but once you accept there is half truth based on choice or personal perception you do not have pure truth surely?

I see you seem to be struggling with the differences between fact, opinion and outright lying.

Lying... stating as fact that which you know not to be true.

no struggle who mentioned opinion..?

You appeared to suggest people wouldn't have one anymore.

no your wrong i didnt, so that is an untruth its easy to make a mistake isnt it

The why omit them in your comments? Or were you trying to make a half truth conclusion?

I’ll just take it that your answer is no – you wouldn’t cope... and as you say... would find the world dull without lies.

Me personally, I don't think it would be dull... it may well be a tad more dangerous for a few folk

(tongue in cheek now) you seem to have a problem with understanding Veracity, i.e., conformity to truth, which is how to find true facts from a large amount of conflicting information on many subjects and various sources,

Your truth is not mine or someone elses it is undefined etc etc etc ..take the multitude of religions and faith as a example

all believe its the truth..most discount the other versions but allow its existence some dont even allow that.

any further discussion would just take us around agsain and bore people to death..pm me if you want to pick it up ,after you have your last say of course

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

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"i wont quote because its too long.

however without falsehood the assumption is everything is truth,how could you therefore have logic,balance or even science,where everything is false untill proven true.

but once you accept there is half truth based on choice or personal perception you do not have pure truth surely?

I see you seem to be struggling with the differences between fact, opinion and outright lying.

Lying... stating as fact that which you know not to be true.

no struggle who mentioned opinion..?

You appeared to suggest people wouldn't have one anymore.

no your wrong i didnt, so that is an untruth its easy to make a mistake isnt it

The why omit them in your comments? Or were you trying to make a half truth conclusion?

I’ll just take it that your answer is no – you wouldn’t cope... and as you say... would find the world dull without lies.

Me personally, I don't think it would be dull... it may well be a tad more dangerous for a few folk

Your truth is not mine or someone elses it is undefined etc etc etc ..take the multitude of religions and faith as a example

all believe its the truth..most discount the other versions but allow its existence some dont even allow that.

any further discussion would just take us around agsain and bore people to death..pm me if you want to pick it up ,after you have your last say of course

How very clever with the "last say" comment... or not as you know I never take any notice of that sort of thing. I am immune to mind games

But as you use religion as an example .... would religions exist if no one could lie in the first place?

Would their be any religious books stating the rules of God? Or would there only be opinions... may be a truer test of faith.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

How very clever with the "last say" comment... "

Thankyou for the compliment ,i know they are rare

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

How very clever with the "last say" comment...

Thankyou for the compliment ,i know they are rare

You're very welcome (as we don't live in a world without lies)

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

How very clever with the "last say" comment...

Thankyou for the compliment ,i know they are rare

You're very welcome (as we don't live in a world without lies)

you dont lie do you ?..

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

How very clever with the "last say" comment...

Thankyou for the compliment ,i know they are rare

You're very welcome (as we don't live in a world without lies)

you dont lie do you ?..

Not without making clear I have.... do you?

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

How very clever with the "last say" comment...

Thankyou for the compliment ,i know they are rare

You're very welcome (as we don't live in a world without lies)

you dont lie do you ?..

Not without making clear I have.... do you?

ethically, a lie is the deliberate witholding or blurring of something you consider to be true.so no i dont lie.

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

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How very clever with the "last say" comment...

Thankyou for the compliment ,i know they are rare

You're very welcome (as we don't live in a world without lies)

you dont lie do you ?..

Not without making clear I have.... do you?

ethically, a lie is the deliberate witholding or blurring of something you consider to be true.so no i dont lie.

Isn't that what you'd say if you lied?

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

How very clever with the "last say" comment...

Thankyou for the compliment ,i know they are rare

You're very welcome (as we don't live in a world without lies)

you dont lie do you ?..

Not without making clear I have.... do you?

ethically, a lie is the deliberate witholding or blurring of something you consider to be true.so no i dont lie.

Isn't that what you'd say if you lied?

depends if we live in truth world or not ..also if you tell one lie it makes you a liar ,whereas if you tell one truth it doent make you a truth teller....think about it

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

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How very clever with the "last say" comment...

Thankyou for the compliment ,i know they are rare

You're very welcome (as we don't live in a world without lies)

you dont lie do you ?..

Not without making clear I have.... do you?

ethically, a lie is the deliberate witholding or blurring of something you consider to be true.so no i dont lie.

Isn't that what you'd say if you lied?

depends if we live in truth world or not ..also if you tell one lie it makes you a liar ,whereas if you tell one truth it doent make you a truth teller....think about it "

And the point is? .... or was that your last last last last comment

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

How very clever with the "last say" comment...

Thankyou for the compliment ,i know they are rare

You're very welcome (as we don't live in a world without lies)

you dont lie do you ?..

Not without making clear I have.... do you?

ethically, a lie is the deliberate witholding or blurring of something you consider to be true.so no i dont lie.

Isn't that what you'd say if you lied?

depends if we live in truth world or not ..also if you tell one lie it makes you a liar ,whereas if you tell one truth it doent make you a truth teller....think about it

And the point is? .... or was that your last last last last comment

truthfully ...i dont like pursuing a debate for debates sake,see ya

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What ya mean "does my ass look big in this" type of lies??????

ALL lies... lol

I tried to stop him going, I did...really I did.......did everything he asked...but he told me he could not resist Bert the Milkie's Gold Top............

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"What ya mean "does my ass look big in this" type of lies??????

ALL lies... lol

I tried to stop him going, I did...really I did.......did everything he asked...but he told me he could not resist Bert the Milkie's Gold Top............"

Damn those lycra vests!

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden