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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

.....with this rant. But I've needed time to calm down, gain perspective and approach the subject with logic and reason.

A lot of Single men, particularly those looking to meet TVs are lazy arsed muthafuckas and only want to do so if it means they have to expend a minimal amount of effort. And I class in that guys I've already met.

I had 2 completely free days this week where I have been able to travel and accommodate freely day and night. I've know about it for over a month, have had meet listings posted for ages and have been alluding to it in status updates for weeks. In the beginning I mailed people I fancied and some guys/girls I've met before to let them know and see if they wanted to arrange something. In all cases the answer was "let me know nearer the time". So I let them know 10 days before and the answer was "that's too short notice, if you'd let me know earlier"

So exactly how long is this mystical period of time between too much notice and not enough? Did I have an hour window about 2am one Sunday night 2 weeks before where every fucker would have jumped at the chance?

So I went into the days kind of resigned to the thought that it wasn't going to go well. Sure enough got stood up by a guy on the first afternoon. Met him before, no contact even though he had 3 means of letting me know. Blocked/reported/video of us put online. Fuck him, he was lying about being straight anyway. I did get a replacement, or rather an upgrade, but it was like pulling teeth with them. No one seemed to want to make the effort to drive the 25 miles to meet me at my discreet lair. That was far too much effort. No, because they are all, pretty much without exception "straight" and only looking to drain their balls on the way home to the wife, they wanted me to tart myself up, drive to a shitty layby somewhere and relieve them on the way.

So basically I had two days of fending off some big bad pictureless, profileless, illiterate MacCuntybollocks who are too fucking stupid to realise that a little effort would reap a decent return.

So on the Thursday night I figured I'd had enough. I felt sleazy, severely horny and rather filthy. I thought I'll give the public what it clearly wants and arrange a dogging meet at a forest spot closer to the city where the buggers only have to put themselves out a tiny bit to drain their spuds. And it worked. Had 10 guys say they'd be there (big pinch of salt taken obviously). So I tart myself up, and I do mean tart, and drove to the place.

To find it full of families having a nighttime geocaching event or something.

You cannot make that shit up. Its a fucking school night, it's miserable, have you bastards nothing better to do? :-/ So several frantic emails and status changes later I head home, seething and frothing at the bunghole.

So what have I learned from this little adventure. I dunno. Something pithy about life. That people liking TVs still treat it like a dirty secret. That the best meets are last minute. That I now have a comprehensive list of single straight men in this region who are neither of those things. That I really need to move south. That even couples aren't exempt from being twats, as I came home to find a Wanna fuk email from one after the dogging debacle.

Pick up, dust off, shake are, smile.

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By *aceytopWoman
over a year ago

from a town near you


".....with this rant. But I've needed time to calm down, gain perspective and approach the subject with logic and reason.

A lot of Single men, particularly those looking to meet TVs are lazy arsed muthafuckas and only want to do so if it means they have to expend a minimal amount of effort. And I class in that guys I've already met.

I had 2 completely free days this week where I have been able to travel and accommodate freely day and night. I've know about it for over a month, have had meet listings posted for ages and have been alluding to it in status updates for weeks. In the beginning I mailed people I fancied and some guys/girls I've met before to let them know and see if they wanted to arrange something. In all cases the answer was "let me know nearer the time". So I let them know 10 days before and the answer was "that's too short notice, if you'd let me know earlier"

So exactly how long is this mystical period of time between too much notice and not enough? Did I have an hour window about 2am one Sunday night 2 weeks before where every fucker would have jumped at the chance?

So I went into the days kind of resigned to the thought that it wasn't going to go well. Sure enough got stood up by a guy on the first afternoon. Met him before, no contact even though he had 3 means of letting me know. Blocked/reported/video of us put online. Fuck him, he was lying about being straight anyway. I did get a replacement, or rather an upgrade, but it was like pulling teeth with them. No one seemed to want to make the effort to drive the 25 miles to meet me at my discreet lair. That was far too much effort. No, because they are all, pretty much without exception "straight" and only looking to drain their balls on the way home to the wife, they wanted me to tart myself up, drive to a shitty layby somewhere and relieve them on the way.

So basically I had two days of fending off some big bad pictureless, profileless, illiterate MacCuntybollocks who are too fucking stupid to realise that a little effort would reap a decent return.

So on the Thursday night I figured I'd had enough. I felt sleazy, severely horny and rather filthy. I thought I'll give the public what it clearly wants and arrange a dogging meet at a forest spot closer to the city where the buggers only have to put themselves out a tiny bit to drain their spuds. And it worked. Had 10 guys say they'd be there (big pinch of salt taken obviously). So I tart myself up, and I do mean tart, and drove to the place.

To find it full of families having a nighttime geocaching event or something.

You cannot make that shit up. Its a fucking school night, it's miserable, have you bastards nothing better to do? :-/ So several frantic emails and status changes later I head home, seething and frothing at the bunghole.

So what have I learned from this little adventure. I dunno. Something pithy about life. That people liking TVs still treat it like a dirty secret. That the best meets are last minute. That I now have a comprehensive list of single straight men in this region who are neither of those things. That I really need to move south. That even couples aren't exempt from being twats, as I came home to find a Wanna fuk email from one after the dogging debacle.

Pick up, dust off, shake are, smile.

"

xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aren't (some) men arseholes?!?!?!

The thread title made me think you were preggers Jodie. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

geotagnutting is a brilliant pasttime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is often the case that when you want to meet, everyone else just wants to wank whilst you exchange candid messages with them.

Conversely being online when you can't meet (or can't be arsed) is fatal. Your inbox will be full of unwanted cock.

So next time you want to meet, change your status to 'not looking to meet'

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Yep, it happens. I sometimes think I should just put up a meet request saying "anywhere, anytime and I'll be Knickerless if you be Dick" and see what happens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep, it happens. I sometimes think I should just put up a meet request saying "anywhere, anytime and I'll be Knickerless if you be Dick" and see what happens.

"

what time shall I come round, can't stay lAte I have a hot date with a gorgeous leggy welsh filly tomorrow morning for coffee

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

You uploaded a video of a bloke to the web because he didn't turn up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You uploaded a video of a bloke to the web because he didn't turn up?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I felt quite bereft Thursday when there was no Jodie rant to make my day. You have redeemed yourself beyond reason and i bow to your superior rants.

So the question i must ask you is..... When are you moving to Wales Jodie? Xxxx

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

if it is making you so angry, take a break.

posting a video of someone online without their consent is vile.

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By *rjandmrskCouple
over a year ago

West Dunbartonshire

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

Leeds


"You uploaded a video of a bloke to the web because he didn't turn up?"

I think a tongue was firmly in cheek there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hell hath no fury

I dare somebody to finish this phrase

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Welcome to the world of the single fem. When I have free time and the inclination they all want to talk but not do.

Right now when I'm sick and can't meet they think I'm leading them on!

Move south Jodes, if nothin else you'll have someone to drink cocktails with while we bitch and go shoe shopping to make it all better.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"You uploaded a video of a bloke to the web because he didn't turn up?

I think a tongue was firmly in cheek there "

if it was, I apologise

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield


"You uploaded a video of a bloke to the web because he didn't turn up?

I think a tongue was firmly in cheek there

if it was, I apologise"

That's what the video showed, a tongue firmly in cheek and loving it

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"You uploaded a video of a bloke to the web because he didn't turn up?

I think a tongue was firmly in cheek there

if it was, I apologise

That's what the video showed, a tongue firmly in cheek and loving it "

I'm lost but hope things improve

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield


"You uploaded a video of a bloke to the web because he didn't turn up?

I think a tongue was firmly in cheek there

if it was, I apologise

That's what the video showed, a tongue firmly in cheek and loving it

I'm lost but hope things improve "

A rimming video View.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Welcome to the world of the single fem. When I have free time and the inclination they all want to talk but not do.

Right now when I'm sick and can't meet they think I'm leading them on!

Move south Jodes, if nothin else you'll have someone to drink cocktails with while we bitch and go shoe shopping to make it all better. "

Tell me about it.

Meets are difficult when you can't accommodate and can only occasionally go halves on a hotel too. The number of guys I've swapped messages with, who "cannot accommodate" but don't want to share the cost of a hotel is high. I accept their inability to accommodate but they usually try to pressure me into doing so, (I'm very discreet and I promise I'm not a stalker and haven't got a partner to turn up on your doorstep and cause shit) and/or try to persuade me to do a car/outdoors meet.

It's a good filter and it helps me stay realistic amidst all the "you are gawjus" messages, knowing I'm worth only a quick grope and fuck in a car and not worth half the cost of a hotel room.

I've also found that needing a few days notice is a problem. The guys who contact me often want to meet now, or tomorrow and lose interest when I say I need a couple of days notice.

Short notice meets just don't work for me. And when a hotel is needed (usually) it takes even more organisation.

I'm thinking of hiding my profile again for a while.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Sorry, missed all this as was caught up in the Eurovision furore!

Yes I posted the video, but a few weeks ago, not related to this incident and yes he consented.

I was just happy that it might come back and bite him in the arse one day. Payback is a bitch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow the o p comes across as a bit of bunny boiler in my _iew based purely on the rant as such.

So what if been let down a lot on fab will probably just brush it off and move on.

Bitterness only breeds more bitterness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jodie, single men and minimal effort goes hand in hand on here, with many. It makes me appreciate those who go that step further.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Jodie, single men and minimal effort goes hand in hand on here, with many. It makes me appreciate those who go that step further."

Great rant Jodie.

But I'd say there's as many profile owners of both genders (and couples!) who think minimal effort is all that is required.

Trouble is - people (of all genders) too often let them get away with it in pursuit of an orgasm.

A

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cor blimey!

That's some good paragraphing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jodie, single men and minimal effort goes hand in hand on here, with many. It makes me appreciate those who go that step further.

Great rant Jodie.

But I'd say there's as many profile owners of both genders (and couples!) who think minimal effort is all that is required.

Trouble is - people (of all genders) too often let them get away with it in pursuit of an orgasm.

A"

Pro rata you're possibly right but one can only spout about one's own experiences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have now come to a conclusion. Don't talk to men after 10pm about meeting. Especially on a weekend night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Welcome to the world of the single fem. When I have free time and the inclination they all want to talk but not do.

Right now when I'm sick and can't meet they think I'm leading them on!

Move south Jodes, if nothin else you'll have someone to drink cocktails with while we bitch and go shoe shopping to make it all better.

Tell me about it.

Meets are difficult when you can't accommodate and can only occasionally go halves on a hotel too. The number of guys I've swapped messages with, who "cannot accommodate" but don't want to share the cost of a hotel is high. I accept their inability to accommodate but they usually try to pressure me into doing so, (I'm very discreet and I promise I'm not a stalker and haven't got a partner to turn up on your doorstep and cause shit) and/or try to persuade me to do a car/outdoors meet.

It's a good filter and it helps me stay realistic amidst all the "you are gawjus" messages, knowing I'm worth only a quick grope and fuck in a car and not worth half the cost of a hotel room.

I've also found that needing a few days notice is a problem. The guys who contact me often want to meet now, or tomorrow and lose interest when I say I need a couple of days notice.

Short notice meets just don't work for me. And when a hotel is needed (usually) it takes even more organisation.

I'm thinking of hiding my profile again for a while."

Both you VV and the OP have made good points about things on fab that grind my gears too. I KNOW I'm worth more than a quickie in a semi deserted back lane (as are you both). Guys whine about fems leading them on and not meaning it but really..they expect us to magically appear anywhere and anytime, knickers in hand and dripping for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You uploaded a video of a bloke to the web because he didn't turn up?"

Always a risk people take. Allowing others to video or take pics. You never know where it ends up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was just happy that it might come back and bite him in the arse one day. Payback is a bitch. "

That's awful. Reflects badly on you as a person.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"In all cases the answer was "let me know nearer the time". So I let them know 10 days before and the answer was "that's too short notice, if you'd let me know earlier"

So exactly how long is this mystical period of time between too much notice and not enough? Did I have an hour window about 2am one Sunday night 2 weeks before where every fucker would have jumped at the chance?"

I used to get this too when I travelled for work. And when you do book in advance, nine times out of ten they'll cancel with less than a day to rearrange. Oh well, its the ones who do meet that make it all worthwhile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mentally adds some of the opinions and themes expressed so far too his list of swinging axioms and paradoxes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I was just happy that it might come back and bite him in the arse one day. Payback is a bitch.

That's awful. Reflects badly on you as a person. "

What, hoping that someone who pissed you off gets a little Karmic payback one day? Show me someone who says they never wished a bit of misfortune on someone who wronged them in their lives, and I'll show you a liar. Even Jesus wasn't that nice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was just happy that it might come back and bite him in the arse one day. Payback is a bitch.

That's awful. Reflects badly on you as a person.

What, hoping that someone who pissed you off gets a little Karmic payback one day? Show me someone who says they never wished a bit of misfortune on someone who wronged them in their lives, and I'll show you a liar. Even Jesus wasn't that nice. "

But there is a difference between karmic payback and wishing ill of someone.

Karmia is the universes way of evening the score (if you believe in such things), whilst willing misfortune upon someone has consequences for your own karma.

Schadenfreude should always come with the bitter aftertaste of guilt, otherwise we become just that little bit darker in our souls.

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I was just happy that it might come back and bite him in the arse one day. Payback is a bitch.

That's awful. Reflects badly on you as a person.

What, hoping that someone who pissed you off gets a little Karmic payback one day? Show me someone who says they never wished a bit of misfortune on someone who wronged them in their lives, and I'll show you a liar. Even Jesus wasn't that nice. "

I think you are comfusing karma with vengenge.

Karma is when the universe decides someone should have misfortune returned to them.

Not a person activly seeking to bring misfortune.

you seeked some kind of revenge on this guy,revenge is not karma.

People get messed about on here all the time,infact people all over the world are messed about, hurt, upset by other opeople.

What a horrible world it would be if we all seeked revenge.

Just my opinion anyway.

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Guy above me beat me to it.

and expressed it much better.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

All very eloquent and well put.

I don't care. I really don't. Your judgements of my actions mean nothing to me. But it's nice to know you think I care. I'll be the one concerned about the state of my black, borderline sociopathic soul, Ta

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Its not a judgment, its an opinion.

Some people might agree what you did is fine and some people wont.

I know you post on forums a lot and quite well respected by other forum users.

One thing I do know if this was a post by a guy and not a regular forum user and he complained about being messed around by someone so did somthing to seek revenge to make themselves feel better.

this thread would have exploded with people having a ago at that person and no doubt thread closed.

if you feel better for posting video of you and a that guy hoping one day it will come back to haunt him then fine.

as the previous guy said you have just created more negative karma for yourself.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

How did I miss this gem of a rant???? I think we should all have individual notice of these, as otherwise I may have overlooked it.

A shitty few days. You need to move to Notts where you get a different class of guy who wants to meet, but somehow manages not to.*

*I'm off out dogging tonight and approx. 20 guys have said they will come, so this may come back to bite me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How did I miss this gem of a rant???? I think we should all have individual notice of these, as otherwise I may have overlooked it.

A shitty few days. You need to move to Notts where you get a different class of guy who wants to meet, but somehow manages not to.*

*I'm off out dogging tonight and approx. 20 guys have said they will come, so this may come back to bite me "

I don't think it will...

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts


"How did I miss this gem of a rant???? I think we should all have individual notice of these, as otherwise I may have overlooked it.

A shitty few days. You need to move to Notts where you get a different class of guy who wants to meet, but somehow manages not to.*

*I'm off out dogging tonight and approx. 20 guys have said they will come, so this may come back to bite me

I don't think it will... "

Between 3 of us there, they won't know who to go to first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How did I miss this gem of a rant???? I think we should all have individual notice of these, as otherwise I may have overlooked it.

A shitty few days. You need to move to Notts where you get a different class of guy who wants to meet, but somehow manages not to.*

*I'm off out dogging tonight and approx. 20 guys have said they will come, so this may come back to bite me

I don't think it will...

Between 3 of us there, they won't know who to go to first "

That's made me smile, time to hit the shower and decide on clothes x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why not go to a club instead of all the drama?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Met him before, no contact even though he had 3 means of letting me know. Blocked/reported/video of us put online. Fuck him, he was lying about being straight anyway.

"

You have got to be joking right?....

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"if it is making you so angry, take a break.

posting a video of someone online without their consent is vile."

Fucking funny if the guy claims to be straight though

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Those of you ranting about posting the video did read the whole thread didn't you? You're not just attacking and being disgusted as a knee jerk are you?

Cos the OP did explain that the video was posted with the consent of all participants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thankfully this is not representative of my opinion of single guys or couples, or anyone generally.....

Sorry you've had a crappy experience OP and maybe a catalogue of failures has left your head in a place it's usually not with regards to these activities because of that.

We always chalk the disappointments down to people being wholly unpredictable and nothing more, and often reasons are genuine but we seldom give a third chance. We let these things go quite quickly, we can't change other people.

It reads that the posted vid was done so with consent, I personally would hope so. No matter how angry, doing so without it - through malice - would be a far bigger breach of trust than not showing up as arranged or not being available.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Those of you ranting about posting the video did read the whole thread didn't you? You're not just attacking and being disgusted as a knee jerk are you?

Cos the OP did explain that the video was posted with the consent of all participants."

Thank you!

You posted this before i did.

... It is my belief that most would secretly think /wish the same thing in the heat of the angry moment. The OP stated that the video was posted with consent, and once posted to the net who know where it could end up. - a risk both parties considered when they both agreed to post it.

To the OP, time to take a break from organising well in advance, take a breather. Next 2 days you have off, book a hotel, take in a movie/ club/ pamper, opportunity will knock.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"Those of you ranting about posting the video did read the whole thread didn't you? You're not just attacking and being disgusted as a knee jerk are you?

Cos the OP did explain that the video was posted with the consent of all participants."

to be fair, it is not clear in the original post but once Jodie clarifies later in the thread, it obviously is.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Its not just guys. I wouldn't travel 25 miles for a fuck!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its not just guys. I wouldn't travel 25 miles for a fuck! "

You'd probably have to if you lived up here and wanted any form of choice.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Its not just guys. I wouldn't travel 25 miles for a fuck! "

Hmmm. I've driven a round trip of 400 miles. More than once.

Mind you, he's feckin' hot!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its not just guys. I wouldn't travel 25 miles for a fuck!

Hmmm. I've driven a round trip of 400 miles. More than once.

Mind you, he's feckin' hot! "

I'm about to do 400 miles too. We take it in turns because of the distance.

Same reason, physically and mentally very much my type.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Its not just guys. I wouldn't travel 25 miles for a fuck!

Hmmm. I've driven a round trip of 400 miles. More than once.

Mind you, he's feckin' hot!

I'm about to do 400 miles too. We take it in turns because of the distance.

Same reason, physically and mentally very much my type."

It was always me that did the travelling, which is why I don't do it any longer. He has an open invitation to visit me but it'll never happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its not just guys. I wouldn't travel 25 miles for a fuck!

Hmmm. I've driven a round trip of 400 miles. More than once.

Mind you, he's feckin' hot!

I'm about to do 400 miles too. We take it in turns because of the distance.

Same reason, physically and mentally very much my type.

It was always me that did the travelling, which is why I don't do it any longer. He has an open invitation to visit me but it'll never happen."

Yeah that's a shame. It's too much to do regularly but it's a bit easier if you share the pain means you can meet up a few times a year. I wouldn't sustain it if the travel was all me either. Specially as a non-driver.

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