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"All is footballing fans know that United need a clear out if they are going to be challenging again next season. There are debates on who should go and why. But in you opinion, who should stay?" The stewards. | |||
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"All is footballing fans know that United need a clear out if they are going to be challenging again next season. There are debates on who should go and why. But in you opinion, who should stay?The stewards." And the presenters who present their channel. Especially the females ones . Seriously though. What player should stay at the club? | |||
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"The tea ladies and the guy who mows the pitch. " What about the lady who washes the kit and irons it | |||
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"Need to go; Fellani Young Cleverly " I agree. But this is a thread about players who can still do a job for united | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer." 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years." Another season ticket holder with a sarf London accent. | |||
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"The tea ladies and the guy who mows the pitch. What about the lady who washes the kit and irons it " Moyes has left already. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer." who is the biggest club in the world? Sour grapes don't change the facts | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years." Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. | |||
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"Go on, give us some facts then." Have 700 million fans world wide. Is anyone else this popular? Only English team to win the champions league and the premiership in the same season. Whilst arguably having the smallest squad of players. Compared to nowadays. Atleast 2 of Real Madrids stars have come from United and probably have broken merchandise sales records ( Beckham and Ronaldo). When former players were asked who would they like to play with or hate to play against. United players always get listed. If you went outside of Western Europe and saw someone wearing a football shirt. It will be more than likely be united as they are a global brand now. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. " On the pitch definitely | |||
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"they've got class players but i dont think they can really be bothered playing their best. .spoilt wee brats really " They've got some class attacking players. The rest are bang average bar De Gea. | |||
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"Players who should stay..... Welbeck Rooney Van Persie Carrick Valencia The rest could and maybe should be replaced." Van Persie is the best when fit. No doubt about it, but can United rely on him being for constantly? I'd take out Welbeck, put in Hernandez and I would keep Flecture too. As Carrick is getting on a bit. I would put Flecture in his role when he's being rested. Also de gea is coming good too. Any other player should go. Apart from giggs that is, lol. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely " And off it as well. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. " Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer.who is the biggest club in the world? Sour grapes don't change the facts" Real Madrid are far bigger than United | |||
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"Players who should stay..... Welbeck Rooney Van Persie Carrick Valencia The rest could and maybe should be replaced. Van Persie is the best when fit. No doubt about it, but can United rely on him being for constantly? I'd take out Welbeck, put in Hernandez and I would keep Flecture too. As Carrick is getting on a bit. I would put Flecture in his role when he's being rested. Also de gea is coming good too. Any other player should go. Apart from giggs that is, lol. " I'm a Man utd fan but i think its time for giggs to retire now really. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? " According to Deloitte 1. Real Madrid: €518.9m (£425m) 2. Barcelona: €482.6m (£395m) 3. Bayern Munich: €431.2m (£354m) 4. Man Utd: €423.8m (£347m) | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? According to Deloitte 1. Real Madrid: €518.9m (£425m) 2. Barcelona: €482.6m (£395m) 3. Bayern Munich: €431.2m (£354m) 4. Man Utd: €423.8m (£347m) " What year is that. If it's over the last 2 years I would agree, but by biggest do you mean richest or most popular? Most popular I would say united are, but as you have shown I would have safely agreed with the table there for the richest clubs. | |||
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"The two biggest teams in the world are united and Barca Asia has a massive utd fanbase. I can say that without bias as I am not a Manchester United fan" Biggest as in cock size? The facts are undeniable Madrid are way bigger globally. You could localise it to a street in Salford if you want to sway figures but Madrid are the biggest team plain and simple. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? According to Deloitte 1. Real Madrid: €518.9m (£425m) 2. Barcelona: €482.6m (£395m) 3. Bayern Munich: €431.2m (£354m) 4. Man Utd: €423.8m (£347m) What year is that. If it's over the last 2 years I would agree, but by biggest do you mean richest or most popular? Most popular I would say united are, but as you have shown I would have safely agreed with the table there for the richest clubs." As of latest figures published. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? According to Deloitte 1. Real Madrid: €518.9m (£425m) 2. Barcelona: €482.6m (£395m) 3. Bayern Munich: €431.2m (£354m) 4. Man Utd: €423.8m (£347m) What year is that. If it's over the last 2 years I would agree, but by biggest do you mean richest or most popular? Most popular I would say united are, but as you have shown I would have safely agreed with the table there for the richest clubs. As of latest figures published." Real Madrids merchandise sales have gone through the roof as usual as they keep buying big names and they win trophies too. Barcelona being in a lot of money through ticket sales, shirt sales of their latest stars and they win trophies. Bayern Munich have just been winning games for fun and deservedly so too. United haven't done much and most of that has probably come through sponsors and winning the odd title. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? According to Deloitte 1. Real Madrid: €518.9m (£425m) 2. Barcelona: €482.6m (£395m) 3. Bayern Munich: €431.2m (£354m) 4. Man Utd: €423.8m (£347m) What year is that. If it's over the last 2 years I would agree, but by biggest do you mean richest or most popular? Most popular I would say united are, but as you have shown I would have safely agreed with the table there for the richest clubs. As of latest figures published. Real Madrids merchandise sales have gone through the roof as usual as they keep buying big names and they win trophies too. Barcelona being in a lot of money through ticket sales, shirt sales of their latest stars and they win trophies. Bayern Munich have just been winning games for fun and deservedly so too. United haven't done much and most of that has probably come through sponsors and winning the odd title. " Well I guess fans through the door is a good indication too | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? According to Deloitte 1. Real Madrid: €518.9m (£425m) 2. Barcelona: €482.6m (£395m) 3. Bayern Munich: €431.2m (£354m) 4. Man Utd: €423.8m (£347m) What year is that. If it's over the last 2 years I would agree, but by biggest do you mean richest or most popular? Most popular I would say united are, but as you have shown I would have safely agreed with the table there for the richest clubs. As of latest figures published. Real Madrids merchandise sales have gone through the roof as usual as they keep buying big names and they win trophies too. Barcelona being in a lot of money through ticket sales, shirt sales of their latest stars and they win trophies. Bayern Munich have just been winning games for fun and deservedly so too. United haven't done much and most of that has probably come through sponsors and winning the odd title. Well I guess fans through the door is a good indication too " Look at the top 4 you listed and see how they compare to everyone else. United compared to the British teams is silly enough, but barca make united look silly there too. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? According to Deloitte 1. Real Madrid: €518.9m (£425m) 2. Barcelona: €482.6m (£395m) 3. Bayern Munich: €431.2m (£354m) 4. Man Utd: €423.8m (£347m) What year is that. If it's over the last 2 years I would agree, but by biggest do you mean richest or most popular? Most popular I would say united are, but as you have shown I would have safely agreed with the table there for the richest clubs. As of latest figures published. Real Madrids merchandise sales have gone through the roof as usual as they keep buying big names and they win trophies too. Barcelona being in a lot of money through ticket sales, shirt sales of their latest stars and they win trophies. Bayern Munich have just been winning games for fun and deservedly so too. United haven't done much and most of that has probably come through sponsors and winning the odd title. Well I guess fans through the door is a good indication too " Taking the above figures as correct, does that mean Man U are technically bankrupt? I believe the club is close to 750 million in debt. | |||
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"The two biggest teams in the world are united and Barca Asia has a massive utd fanbase. I can say that without bias as I am not a Manchester United fan Biggest as in cock size? The facts are undeniable Madrid are way bigger globally. You could localise it to a street in Salford if you want to sway figures but Madrid are the biggest team plain and simple." maybe on the southcoast but I have never seen a Madrid shirt on my travels through Asia and rarely (apart from Ronaldo) see a Madrid shirt outside the capital. Barca shirts are seen everywhere. I have never seen a bayern shirt anywhere in the world. Bayern are only up there because of their massive sponsorship deal, they don't bring in half the gate money that united do. Deloitte only tell half the story | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? According to Deloitte 1. Real Madrid: €518.9m (£425m) 2. Barcelona: €482.6m (£395m) 3. Bayern Munich: €431.2m (£354m) 4. Man Utd: €423.8m (£347m) What year is that. If it's over the last 2 years I would agree, but by biggest do you mean richest or most popular? Most popular I would say united are, but as you have shown I would have safely agreed with the table there for the richest clubs. As of latest figures published. Real Madrids merchandise sales have gone through the roof as usual as they keep buying big names and they win trophies too. Barcelona being in a lot of money through ticket sales, shirt sales of their latest stars and they win trophies. Bayern Munich have just been winning games for fun and deservedly so too. United haven't done much and most of that has probably come through sponsors and winning the odd title. Well I guess fans through the door is a good indication too Taking the above figures as correct, does that mean Man U are technically bankrupt? I believe the club is close to 750 million in debt." Was that in 2005 when the glazers took over and I admit. I feared for the club if we didn't have success on the page, but going by this site. Doesn't sound as bad now 9 years on. http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22651038 | |||
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"The two biggest teams in the world are united and Barca Asia has a massive utd fanbase. I can say that without bias as I am not a Manchester United fan Biggest as in cock size? The facts are undeniable Madrid are way bigger globally. You could localise it to a street in Salford if you want to sway figures but Madrid are the biggest team plain and simple.maybe on the southcoast but I have never seen a Madrid shirt on my travels through Asia and rarely (apart from Ronaldo) see a Madrid shirt outside the capital. Barca shirts are seen everywhere. I have never seen a bayern shirt anywhere in the world. Bayern are only up there because of their massive sponsorship deal, they don't bring in half the gate money that united do. Deloitte only tell half the story" Then you haven't travelled much or got out of your taxi. | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? According to Deloitte 1. Real Madrid: €518.9m (£425m) 2. Barcelona: €482.6m (£395m) 3. Bayern Munich: €431.2m (£354m) 4. Man Utd: €423.8m (£347m) What year is that. If it's over the last 2 years I would agree, but by biggest do you mean richest or most popular? Most popular I would say united are, but as you have shown I would have safely agreed with the table there for the richest clubs. As of latest figures published. Real Madrids merchandise sales have gone through the roof as usual as they keep buying big names and they win trophies too. Barcelona being in a lot of money through ticket sales, shirt sales of their latest stars and they win trophies. Bayern Munich have just been winning games for fun and deservedly so too. United haven't done much and most of that has probably come through sponsors and winning the odd title. Well I guess fans through the door is a good indication too Taking the above figures as correct, does that mean Man U are technically bankrupt? I believe the club is close to 750 million in debt. Was that in 2005 when the glazers took over and I admit. I feared for the club if we didn't have success on the page, but going by this site. Doesn't sound as bad now 9 years on. http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22651038" Is that a no then? | |||
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"What ought to be a punishable offence is people like van Gaal spouting "Manchester United are the biggest club in the world" - it simply spreads the cancer. 700 million fans world wide. Sounds big to me . We are the biggest club off it without a doubt. On it though is a completely different story and it's got worse over the last 4 years. Well I guess its nice to believe that but your not Real Madrid are far bigger. On the pitch definitely And off it as well. Ok. We'll save this for another thread. If United want to compete next season. Who should stay? According to Deloitte 1. Real Madrid: €518.9m (£425m) 2. Barcelona: €482.6m (£395m) 3. Bayern Munich: €431.2m (£354m) 4. Man Utd: €423.8m (£347m) What year is that. If it's over the last 2 years I would agree, but by biggest do you mean richest or most popular? Most popular I would say united are, but as you have shown I would have safely agreed with the table there for the richest clubs. As of latest figures published. Real Madrids merchandise sales have gone through the roof as usual as they keep buying big names and they win trophies too. Barcelona being in a lot of money through ticket sales, shirt sales of their latest stars and they win trophies. Bayern Munich have just been winning games for fun and deservedly so too. United haven't done much and most of that has probably come through sponsors and winning the odd title. Well I guess fans through the door is a good indication too Taking the above figures as correct, does that mean Man U are technically bankrupt? I believe the club is close to 750 million in debt. Was that in 2005 when the glazers took over and I admit. I feared for the club if we didn't have success on the page, but going by this site. Doesn't sound as bad now 9 years on. http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22651038 Is that a no then?" It's 307 now roughly and for some reason no one mentions Barcelona's debt | |||
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"All is footballing fans know that United need a clear out if they are going to be challenging again next season. There are debates on who should go and why. But in you opinion, who should stay?" They are all off Crazy Dave's clown show has really fucked things up at the old triffid. | |||
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"With a good Manager, the current squad (less Felaini and Mata) won the Premiership at a canter last season. United have lost Vidic. Giggs, Evra and Ferdinand out of contract this summer bit a good Manager to come in. A good new Manager does not need to spend massively, he just needs to invest wisely and get the best out of who is there. Rooney may have to go but his sale and the funding already available could secure a new full back and a couple of creative midfielders. Managers make things happen and to a degree, the playing staff are largely irrelevant." Don't forget the players have aged 2 years, which is a lot in football. Not to mention their confidence taking a beating too. Rooney/Persie and Hernandez would put fear into any team when fully fit, of they had the world class midfielders to back them up. However Persie is hardly ever fit and when he's out he's out for a whiles. Rooney is always moaning and thinks he too big for the club. So united need a manager who can cope with big egos and get fear back into the players that no one os bigger than the club. I also believe person and Rooney can't play together and then getting the best from both of them. Unless Rooney is less selfish and drops deep when told and enjoys it, which he never does. | |||
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"Defence: Jones should stay. Either Ferdinand or Vidic should go, along with Smalling and Evans. Midfield: Kagawa and Mata to stay, along with Fellaini to be used more defensively. The rest at the manager's mercy. Attack: Hernandez to stay. Rooney because they're tied to him now. Welbeck to go. Would flourish in a mid-table side because he's still in development." Think you may find Vidic is already leaving | |||
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"Rio Young Nani Valencia Evra Fellaini Cleverly Smalling Anderson " All of them should be kept | |||
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"Aren't Real Madrid constantly being bailed out/funded by the Spanish National Bank?" Real have the national debt of a small continent, are hated by a significant proportion of spaniards because of their links with the Franco regime. Barca also have significant debts and it would be career suicide for any bank manager to call in the loans. I bet if you walked along Bournemouth sea front you would see a significant number of Barca and united tops, maybe one Ronaldo shirt and nothing from bayern. I am also betting I have travelled to far more countries than the sour grapes bunch too | |||
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"There have been some interesting points, but getting back to the original thread:- De Gea - developing nicely into a confident keeper who shot stops with the best of them Smalling, jones, Evans, butter - again all developing and with more games /experience will get better... Carrick, cleverly, Valencia, mata ( ) Hernandez, Rooney wellbeck and van persie... All Utd need is a strong manager. Keep the back room staff of the class of 92 and bring on and encourage the youth - like against Hull on Tuesday night. I would rather see a young squad grow together than waste money on foreign "stars". Thoughts?" Read a newspaper article that said Bayern may want to offload Robben in the summer and Van Gaal if he becomes Utd manager would be sure to sign him? I think he'd be a welcome addition to the team, sell Ashley Young i've never rated him. | |||
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"All is footballing fans know that United need a clear out if they are going to be challenging again next season. There are debates on who should go and why. But in you opinion, who should stay?" Please don't.....keep them all! | |||
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"Man United do not need a clear out. The same players won the league last season. They just need a new manager and some new defenders to inject some enthusiasm into the squad. " They one it because de gea was coming good and the strikers were all on form. The midfielders and defenders were still lacking in talent. Barring the full backs of course. Although they didn't defend as they should have done. 1 striker who can play along side Rooney or Van Persie as they can't play together. Pick Hernandez more than Welcbeck, 2 midfielders and 2 centre backs, year after 2 full backs as evra is getting on and I don't see Rafael as world class, but he's young and developing well. But we do need a manager who has done it all and can manage big egos. | |||
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