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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

He's a disgrace to the bbc , The mirror said it's expert was 75% sure he used an offensive word in a bit of the show never aired so I think the 300+ people that complained about something they haven't seen isn't jumping on the bandwagon at all .

Sack Him Now ...... Frankie Boyle's free at the moment .

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I saw Top Gear is the Beeb's 2nd highest earning programme and Clarkson sold them his percentage for £15m. They are probably scared it won't work without him or he would already be gone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves "

Storms and teacups??

Next you'll be telling us it's ok to use nigger and other such words word as "it's what we did when we were young"

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves "

This!!! How is this story news?????? Someone viewed something that was never aired and says they are 75% sure they heard him mumble a word and went to the papers with it so 300 people who never vheard or saw it could complain??? People need to get themselves a life!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't sack Clarkson... Hes great...says it how it is... And top gear would not be the top gear without him x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was only a old rhyme people used years ago I don't think that makes him racist just old

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't sack Clarkson... Hes great...says it how it is... And top gear would not be the top gear without him x"

This ... what a crazy world we live in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

This!!! How is this story news?????? Someone viewed something that was never aired and says they are 75% sure they heard him mumble a word and went to the papers with it so 300 people who never vheard or saw it could complain??? People need to get themselves a life!!!"

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

This!!! How is this story news?????? Someone viewed something that was never aired and says they are 75% sure they heard him mumble a word and went to the papers with it so 300 people who never vheard or saw it could complain??? People need to get themselves a life!!!"

I did read somewhere that the Jonathon Ross and the other idiot only had 6 complaints about that phone message until the papers got hold of it then it was 30,000 .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the beeb get rid of Clarkson that will be the end of the beeb,he's the only person worth tuning in for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it was someone else I would be more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt but he has plenty of previous.

Ron Atkinson called someone a lazy N off air on ITV and got sacked.

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By *ornyandsexy69Couple
over a year ago

Hull

Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't sack Clarkson... Hes great...says it how it is... And top gear would not be the top gear without him x"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs. "

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By *ornyandsexy69Couple
over a year ago

Hull


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs. "
. Is it ok cos she's black. Hang on that's racist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs. "

But she's black so is she insulting whites?

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

Storms and teacups??

Next you'll be telling us it's ok to use nigger and other such words word as "it's what we did when we were young"

"

I had a mail off a guy a few days ago who called himself exactly this word, so you tell me

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

But she's black so is she insulting whites? "

So it's ok for her and are you saying that there are no words for white people that you heard when you were younger ?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

IF he said it he should face the consequences however if he was on trial by jury they could not convict him on 75% of them saying he was guilty unless the judge directed that they could.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

Storms and teacups??

Next you'll be telling us it's ok to use nigger and other such words word as "it's what we did when we were young"

I had a mail off a guy a few days ago who called himself exactly this word, so you tell me "

Was he black? if so fine

If he was white then it's racist, hope that helps to clear any confusion you have in your head

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When's top gear back on ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

But she's black so is she insulting whites?

So it's ok for her and are you saying that there are no words for white people that you heard when you were younger ? "

We're not talking about me or you but a tv presenter and a show watched by millions, hardly compare the two

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think he does it on purpose to see just how far he can push it,so what if we used to sing that ryhme when we were children? I don't think theres an adult in this country who wouldn't realise that it would be seen as offensive if you sang it today

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

But she's black so is she insulting whites?

So it's ok for her and are you saying that there are no words for white people that you heard when you were younger ? "

Can I just add I for one would never say it but you hear it all the time in rap songs, it's a funny old world indeed

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

Storms and teacups??

Next you'll be telling us it's ok to use nigger and other such words word as "it's what we did when we were young"

"

He didn't even say it!! Some expert has decided he wanted his 15 mins of fame so has said he is 75% sure that the mumble was the word. Are there experts in the N word now then? Do they trawl all footage on the cutting room floor so that they can get their mug on TV?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

But she's black so is she insulting whites?

So it's ok for her and are you saying that there are no words for white people that you heard when you were younger ? "

Its not a word I use but you always here black people using it!!Why is it so bad when a white person says it!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs. "

The record company have mass produced the music and put it out they should also sack themselves as well?

It's a good point I don't use the word myself and would prefer if others did not buy they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

But she's black so is she insulting whites?

So it's ok for her and are you saying that there are no words for white people that you heard when you were younger ?

Can I just add I for one would never say it but you hear it all the time in rap songs, it's a funny old world indeed "

If you want to meet for fun, just say or email me

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

But she's black so is she insulting whites?

So it's ok for her and are you saying that there are no words for white people that you heard when you were younger ?

We're not talking about me or you but a tv presenter and a show watched by millions, hardly compare the two"

But it was never aired, never shown and was only made public when someone thought they heard it in an out take

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

But she's black so is she insulting whites?

So it's ok for her and are you saying that there are no words for white people that you heard when you were younger ?

We're not talking about me or you but a tv presenter and a show watched by millions, hardly compare the two"

And a clip that was cut out of the show.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one

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By *uestandpinkCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"You can't sack Clarkson... Hes great...says it how it is... And top gear would not be the top gear without him x"

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I do think in any context the word should not be used...no matter what colour you are...in the states the word is commonly used as racism is far wide spread out there....clarkson should know better if he did say the word....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

Storms and teacups??

Next you'll be telling us it's ok to use nigger and other such words word as "it's what we did when we were young"

I had a mail off a guy a few days ago who called himself exactly this word, so you tell me "

some black people like this urban culture, if anyone of my race(I'm mixed) thinks calling me nigger is acceptable, I soon put them right.I dont listen to music, dont listen to rap etc...I'm as far away from 'urban ethnic' culture than you can imagine... so yes...I'm telling u! lol

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one "

Honkies

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

But she's black so is she insulting whites?

So it's ok for her and are you saying that there are no words for white people that you heard when you were younger ?

Can I just add I for one would never say it but you hear it all the time in rap songs, it's a funny old world indeed

If you want to meet for fun, just say or email me"

Oh thanks for the offer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clarkson and his mates are jerks who like driving fast cars and doing childish things, whatever the say is usually childish and immature, and probably offensive to someone ,

How many of us guys would love a job, wher we could act like jerks drive fast cars and just generally enjoy our life. And get paid for it , I know I would have his job any time he wants to swap, just point him in my direction

If you don't like clarkson , change the channel it's not like we only have channel in this country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one

Honkies "

Really?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one "

apparently taffy and jock...........

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one "

I can think of lots of words. Cracker, limey, pom etc that were used as derogatory words in the past but I don't think they are classed as offensive now a days.

Might be wrong and fund myself on the naughty step soon lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one

Honkies "

What exactly does "Honkies" mean?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one

Honkies

Really?"

I'm trying to think of others but that is what I used to get called as a kid growing up in Brixton

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

Storms and teacups??

Next you'll be telling us it's ok to use nigger and other such words word as "it's what we did when we were young"

I had a mail off a guy a few days ago who called himself exactly this word, so you tell me

some black people like this urban culture, if anyone of my race(I'm mixed) thinks calling me nigger is acceptable, I soon put them right.I dont listen to music, dont listen to rap etc...I'm as far away from 'urban ethnic' culture than you can imagine... so yes...I'm telling u! lol"

Well thanks for telling me, and honestly I was shocked that he referred to himself in that way

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one

Honkies

What exactly does "Honkies" mean? "

Honky (also spelled honkie or sometimes honkey) is mainly a racial slur for white people, predominantly heard in the United States. The first recorded use of honky in this context may date back to 1903, although the use of "Honky Tonk" occurred in films well before that time.[1] The exact origins of the word are generally unknown and postulations about the subject vary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't sack Clarkson... Hes great...says it how it is... And top gear would not be the top gear without him x

This ... what a crazy world we live in "

Totally agree with these guys ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the BBC sack Clarkson, they will die. He is one of the biggest earners for them, and Top Gear couldn't work without him. I reckon May and Hammond would be off as well if they sacked him.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

But she's black so is she insulting whites?

So it's ok for her and are you saying that there are no words for white people that you heard when you were younger ?

We're not talking about me or you but a tv presenter and a show watched by millions, hard

ly compare the two"

But we aren't talking about a TV show watched by millions, we're talking about one take from that show that never made it to air at JCs request. Now I don't know if he said the word or not and the "expert" who claims he did is only 75% sure and I don't know the motives behind either Jeremy Clarkson asking for the take not to be shown or the newspaper going to such lengths to enhance it but I do know I'm sick of the media trying to manipulate us all and succeeding in lots of cases

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area

It was in an outake and not aired.. goodness me leave the poor bloke alone.. Sticks n stones etc surely there are much more major issues in this stupid country that need dealing with before people worry about what he could possibly have been made out saying in a bloody outake.. people really need to toughen up a bit and get a grip..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Richard Keys and Andy Gray were sacked from Sky for sexist language they used about a female football ref it was off camera and never aired.

Like I already said Ron Atkinson the same.

You can't talk like that in the workplace try it in yours see what happens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one

Honkies "

You mean English people, boss, bwhana , big white boss, nazi , mister , miss, indentured servants .redcoat , communist , turncoat . Infidel

Don't forget we as british people controlled the vast majority of the world and we were not liked by most of them ,

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"If the BBC sack Clarkson, they will die. He is one of the biggest earners for them, and Top Gear couldn't work without him. I reckon May and Hammond would be off as well if they sacked him."

The BBC won't die if they sack Clarkson. Such a ridiculous statement!! He does one rather shit programme for them that's on BBC on some random night. He is not a prime time star. The only thing they will miss is the sell on value of top gear to Dave!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"If the BBC sack Clarkson, they will die. He is one of the biggest earners for them, and Top Gear couldn't work without him. I reckon May and Hammond would be off as well if they sacked him."

I'm pretty sure the BBC is more than the sum of it's parts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

Storms and teacups??

Next you'll be telling us it's ok to use nigger and other such words word as "it's what we did when we were young"

I had a mail off a guy a few days ago who called himself exactly this word, so you tell me

some black people like this urban culture, if anyone of my race(I'm mixed) thinks calling me nigger is acceptable, I soon put them right.I dont listen to music, dont listen to rap etc...I'm as far away from 'urban ethnic' culture than you can imagine... so yes...I'm telling u! lol

Well thanks for telling me, and honestly I was shocked that he referred to himself in that way "

many years ago, I was out with a gorgeous woman, we went to a pub and my date asked a bouncer if she's met him at another club, he replied by saying "must be some other nigga", my date was pretty mortified.I approached him(him being 6ft and built lol), and told him that was a ridiculous thing to say and to grow up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs.

But she's black so is she insulting whites?

So it's ok for her and are you saying that there are no words for white people that you heard when you were younger ?

We're not talking about me or you but a tv presenter and a show watched by millions, hard

ly compare the two

But we aren't talking about a TV show watched by millions, we're talking about one take from that show that never made it to air at JCs request. Now I don't know if he said the word or not and the "expert" who claims he did is only 75% sure and I don't know the motives behind either Jeremy Clarkson asking for the take not to be shown or the newspaper going to such lengths to enhance it but I do know I'm sick of the media trying to manipulate us all and succeeding in lots of cases"

Ahhh i see, so it was not shown and why was it not shown?

Off course, JC wanted it not to be shown, because??????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It was in an outake and not aired.. goodness me leave the poor bloke alone.. Sticks n stones etc surely there are much more major issues in this stupid country that need dealing with before people worry about what he could possibly have been made out saying in a bloody outake.. people really need to toughen up a bit and get a grip.."

We don't know who was with him at the time. But let's just saw the camera man was black would you still think that?

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By *ecor atorMan
over a year ago

York

I wish they'd out love thy neighbour back on!

I think you might reason to complain if they did.

Was popular and enjoyed by many

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

But he also used the ' s ' word in one show too , which it turns out might offend people in America ( where the program isn't shown ) and Australia ( world renowned as a sensitive nation ) , but at least the press have now given another insult to all the idiot in the UK to use ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wish they'd out love thy neighbour back on!

I think you might reason to complain if they did.

Was popular and enjoyed by many"

Next you'll be telling "Hovis" ad was made in Yorkshire

You wearing your flat cap?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wish they'd out love thy neighbour back on!

I think you might reason to complain if they did.

Was popular and enjoyed by many"

We used to like it.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"

We're not talking about me or you but a tv presenter and a show watched by millions, hard

ly compare the two

But we aren't talking about a TV show watched by millions, we're talking about one take from that show that never made it to air at JCs request. Now I don't know if he said the word or not and the "expert" who claims he did is only 75% sure and I don't know the motives behind either Jeremy Clarkson asking for the take not to be shown or the newspaper going to such lengths to enhance it but I do know I'm sick of the media trying to manipulate us all and succeeding in lots of cases

Ahhh i see, so it was not shown and why was it not shown?

Off course, JC wanted it not to be shown, because??????

"

Of you look at my later post you'll see that I said I don't know what his motives where for asking for it to be excluded, i'm not naive enough to believe that he wasn't aware of the impact of being heard to say that word and that could be why he asked for the take not to be shown......but I don't know any more than the rest of us do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the BBC sack Clarkson, they will die. He is one of the biggest earners for them, and Top Gear couldn't work without him. I reckon May and Hammond would be off as well if they sacked him.

The BBC won't die if they sack Clarkson. Such a ridiculous statement!! He does one rather shit programme for them that's on BBC on some random night. He is not a prime time star. The only thing they will miss is the sell on value of top gear to Dave! "

The BBC is on its way out. They've lost Paxman this week, Clarkson probably next. It is horrid television. Let Noel Edmonds buy it I say.

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

Did HE ask for it not to be aired ? Or is it like the other 3-4 hours of filming that doesn't make it to the screen ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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We're not talking about me or you but a tv presenter and a show watched by millions, hard

ly compare the two

But we aren't talking about a TV show watched by millions, we're talking about one take from that show that never made it to air at JCs request. Now I don't know if he said the word or not and the "expert" who claims he did is only 75% sure and I don't know the motives behind either Jeremy Clarkson asking for the take not to be shown or the newspaper going to such lengths to enhance it but I do know I'm sick of the media trying to manipulate us all and succeeding in lots of cases

Ahhh i see, so it was not shown and why was it not shown?

Off course, JC wanted it not to be shown, because??????

Of you look at my later post you'll see that I said I don't know what his motives where for asking for it to be excluded, i'm not naive enough to believe that he wasn't aware of the impact of being heard to say that word and that could be why he asked for the take not to be shown......but I don't know any more than the rest of us do."

2+2=4 not 22.

You work out why he wanted it excluded, hardly takes a genius to work it out

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over a year ago

It is getting to the point If jeremy clarkson said "yes I am a racist" people wouldnt care.

Again I just think he is an upper class sexist twat, I dont think he probably views anyone other than 'english', 'male', 'class' people as equals to be honest.

as I continually say, I'm not one for complaining at every comment here and there or jumping on every PC issue...

but I watched the top gear clip of the "slope", and I know EXACTLY what clarkson meant, I'm not fucking stupid...and I dont believe others are.

High brow japes have consequences, entertainers should know this by now...

and finally?..I never liked him anyway, and his shows are certainly not why I'd put the BBC up as an amazing broadcaster ffs...now, attenbourgh...

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over a year ago

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By *gents 3 and 4Couple
over a year ago

truro

Clarkson on for prime minster

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By *gents 3 and 4Couple
over a year ago

truro


"Clarkson on for prime minster "
*for

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

I doubt he would worry too much if he was sacked from old aunty beeb, he is still a journalist after all and would probably be snapped up by some sky channel somewhere

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone actually heard the clip? It was aired on radio one yesterday....its an indistinct mumble at best.....

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"It is getting to the point If jeremy clarkson said "yes I am a racist" people wouldnt care.

Again I just think he is an upper class sexist twat, I dont think he probably views anyone other than 'english', 'male', 'class' people as equals to be honest.

as I continually say, I'm not one for complaining at every comment here and there or jumping on every PC issue...

but I watched the top gear clip of the "slope", and I know EXACTLY what clarkson meant, I'm not fucking stupid...and I dont believe others are.

High brow japes have consequences, entertainers should know this by now...

and finally?..I never liked him anyway, and his shows are certainly not why I'd put the BBC up as an amazing broadcaster ffs...now, attenbourgh..."

I concur with your findings, the wildlife documentaries on the BBC are what make me tune in to it

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Anyone actually heard the clip? It was aired on radio one yesterday....its an indistinct mumble at best....."

Not if you're an expert

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs. "
that goes for a lot of rap songs played on the radio with that word in.....nobody complains about them!! double standards anyone?

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts


"Anyone actually heard the clip? It was aired on radio one yesterday....its an indistinct mumble at best.....

Not if you're an expert"

Or at least 75% expert

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rihanna should be sacked from her record company. She uses the n word in some of her songs. that goes for a lot of rap songs played on the radio with that word in.....nobody complains about them!! double standards anyone?"

I'm quite happy for anyone that wishes to be generalized in such a manner if thats what they want...count me out.

thats not double standards...its wanting respect.

Many here, might say they are sluts,whores etc...thats not what they want to be known as outwith this environment.They wouldnt accept their boss/employee saying "u slut", "yes whore"... its not exactly double standards to have different identities in a certain scene.

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Load of bollocks lot more news going on

Mirror trying to as crap as the sun not good enough to wrap chips in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really do not like this man as he is arrogant and self opinionated. He is in a position of responsibility and has a duty to ensure that his broadcasting is inoffensive to all sections of the community.

I think he is a dinosaur his kind of views and personality are so last year. He should resign.

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By *o1mrtlcMan
over a year ago

cannock

I don't know what all the fuss is all about its just a word the blacks say all the time to each other I think it's Perthetic

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

Another case of white middle class do-gooders being offended for others , quite patronising really .

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By *ornyandsexy69Couple
over a year ago

Hull


"I don't know what all the fuss is all about its just a word the blacks say all the time to each other I think it's Perthetic

"
. Spot on mate

The clip wasn't even broadcast

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know what all the fuss is all about its just a word the blacks say all the time to each other I think it's Perthetic

. Spot on mate

The clip wasn't even broadcast "
Does it matter that the clip was not aired? His attempts at an apology are sickeningly embarrassing as he can see a lucrative career, as a purveyor of mundane television, going down the pan.

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know what all the fuss is all about its just a word the blacks say all the time to each other I think it's Perthetic

"

I presume you mean "pathetic?"

Blacks say it to blacks, is JC black?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Meanwhile, the world keeps turning not giving a fuck.

He'll just apologize and carry on as usual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the whole thing got blown out of proportion personally....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know what all the fuss is all about its just a word the blacks say all the time to each other I think it's Perthetic

"

do 'we'?

not the sort of language I'd like hearing in nurserys,schools,workplace...

perhaps ourselves in scotland have such a low tolerance of fuckwits, we rarely accept such language.

nothing about PC gone daft, just wanting people not to act like cunts.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays "

It was used when we were kids but it was offensive we just thought it was ok because we knew no better like the book I had called Little Black Sambo. There is a whole culture of suppression and prejudice summed up in one word.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

This!!! How is this story news?????? Someone viewed something that was never aired and says they are 75% sure they heard him mumble a word and went to the papers with it so 300 people who never vheard or saw it could complain??? People need to get themselves a life!!!"

Exactly right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays "

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?"

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

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By *o1mrtlcMan
over a year ago

cannock


"I don't know what all the fuss is all about its just a word the blacks say all the time to each other I think it's Perthetic

I presume you mean "pathetic?"

Blacks say it to blacks, is JC black? "
I get called shorty but you don't see me moaning about it, it's just part of life get over it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?"

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?"

Tbh , that was not the original idea of this thread , the idea was should we be angry about something we have only heard second hand and even after several hours of a professional listening to it still cant be sure whether that is what he said .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know what all the fuss is all about its just a word the blacks say all the time to each other I think it's Perthetic

I presume you mean "pathetic?"

Blacks say it to blacks, is JC black? I get called shorty but you don't see me moaning about it, it's just part of life get over it "

Shorty refers to your colour? Shorty is classed as racist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

"

wouldnt bother me if someone called me honky lol all seems like s big over reaction once again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone actually heard the clip? It was aired on radio one yesterday....its an indistinct mumble at best.....

Not if you're an expert

Or at least 75% expert "

I listen to a fair bit of hip hop and such but even that only puts me at being a 58.2 % expert according to my most recent testing......guess I can't comment any further

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

"

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

wouldnt bother me if someone called me honky lol all seems like s big over reaction once again "

You missed the point, if black called you honky, would be racist. If white called you honky, would be taken in different context

Jc is white so it's taken in different context to if a black man had said it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one

Honkies "

For those of us that remember "Love Thy Neighbour" from many moons ago other ones were "Snowflake", "Paleface" or "Big White Chief

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

wouldnt bother me if someone called me honky lol all seems like s big over reaction once again

You missed the point, if black called you honky, would be racist. If white called you honky, would be taken in different context

Jc is white so it's taken in different context to if a black man had said it."

Ergo discrimination. If he said it it had no racist context.

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By *o1mrtlcMan
over a year ago

cannock


"I don't know what all the fuss is all about its just a word the blacks say all the time to each other I think it's Perthetic

I presume you mean "pathetic?"

Blacks say it to blacks, is JC black? I get called shorty but you don't see me moaning about it, it's just part of life get over it

Shorty refers to your colour? Shorty is classed as racist?

"
what ever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely a word only has the power you allow it to have?

You can call me all the derogatory reacist slurs or whatever crap you like....I'll just shrug and not give a toss to be honest...

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts


"I don't know what all the fuss is all about its just a word the blacks say all the time to each other I think it's Perthetic

I presume you mean "pathetic?"

Blacks say it to blacks, is JC black? I get called shorty but you don't see me moaning about it, it's just part of life get over it

Shorty refers to your colour? Shorty is classed as racist?

"

No it's classed as discrimination , but is that not as bad as racism ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!"

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

we just use the word tiger or tigr in the rhyme. .fuck sake but what normal person would have thought to change it to somethin as difficult as that though ? . .everyone's not as civilised &switched on as me though

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?"

ooooh... can i answer this one from my point view...

I don't take it from ANYONE.... and I don't care what colour they are...

some people think of it as "reclaiming" the word.... other abhor it regardless...

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By *uncan20004Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Was he black? if so fine

If he was white then it's racist, hope that helps to clear any confusion you have in your head"

This. It's that simple. The word has baggage. If black people have taken ownership of the word, after what has taken place historically, then accept it.

Over many years, there was (and still is) a lot of shit that black people have had to 'accept.' And it was a lot more serious than 'them still using a word that we can't.'

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

"

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"we just use the word tiger or tigr in the rhyme. .fuck sake but what normal person would have thought to change it to somethin as difficult as that though ? . .everyone's not as civilised &switched on as me though

"

We used to say nipper lol

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a disgrace to the bbc , The mirror said it's expert was 75% sure he used an offensive word in a bit of the show never aired so I think the 300+ people that complained about something they haven't seen isn't jumping on the bandwagon at all .

Sack Him Now ...... Frankie Boyle's free at the moment . "

Love it! Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread has been an interesting read. I've actually watched the outtake.

Three questions - to those who said this rhyme when they were young, why don't you still say it now or teach your children to say it?

Why do people think Clarkson asked for it to be cut out?

Although many of us at times get frustrated with certain aspects of the media, is it desireable or acceptable to foster a 'shoot the messenger' society?

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By *lirtykentCouple
over a year ago

Kent

Sorry buddy can't have one rule for black people and one rule for white. It's either offensive or it isn't. As for clarkson he is a buffoon he is rude and down right stupid at times. He is also very funny. As for the word I think it was used as part of a very old song that he himself mumbled so as not to cause offense. If we want boring terrible television without any controversy then sack them man. Words must always be taken within the context they are meant and I think this is a PC world gone mad!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely a word only has the power you allow it to have?

You can call me all the derogatory reacist slurs or whatever crap you like....I'll just shrug and not give a toss to be honest...

"

thick skinned type here...

howevere, as i have continually pointed out, and asking anyone here, in BIG GIANT LETTERS..

WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR THE NURSERY RHYMES THAT WERE WRITTEN MANY YEARS AGO BEING USED TODAY IN NURSERYS AND SCHOOLS?

sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me... glad some think thats true, try telling it to the young people who have committed suicide(regardless of gender,race)

*the original point is, I dont think Clarkson needs sacked..he just needs policed better(if he is ant form of professional in his field he can adapt), same as Frankie Boyle and that fuckwit Katie Hopkins.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you. "

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

wouldnt bother me if someone called me honky lol all seems like s big over reaction once again

You missed the point, if black called you honky, would be racist. If white called you honky, would be taken in different context

Jc is white so it's taken in different context to if a black man had said it."

No I didn't miss the point.It doesn't bother me what colour a person is.They can call me what they like.Having played Sunday morning football in Leicester for 15 years with a lot of black and Asian people I have had a lot of race related names slung my way.Had I of done the same the other way all hell would have broke out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We hear the BBC are thinking of a remake of love thy neighbour! Lol

Totally not even a news worthy story!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

wouldnt bother me if someone called me honky lol all seems like s big over reaction once again

You missed the point, if black called you honky, would be racist. If white called you honky, would be taken in different context

Jc is white so it's taken in different context to if a black man had said it.

No I didn't miss the point.It doesn't bother me what colour a person is.They can call me what they like.Having played Sunday morning football in Leicester for 15 years with a lot of black and Asian people I have had a lot of race related names slung my way.Had I of done the same the other way all hell would have broke out."

Give as good as you get , my motto

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couldnt give a toss about what he did or didnt say. The worlds gone pc correctness mad. Call me snowflake honky twat or whatever you like. Its just names people need to harden up a bit.

As for top gear i hate the show. I remember when it was about reviewing new cars on the market. Its now about 3 middle aged twats playing in cars around the world doing meaningless things or reviewing cars most of us will never get the chance to drive or own.

To be honest id be happy for it to be taken off air. But what i think counts for nothing as a few million others see it differently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another nursery rhyme from the past

"Sticks and stone may break my bones but names will never hurt me"

Christ we're all humans, far far worse things happening in the world. When did the world get so sensitive!

Most people, regardless of colour, get called one thing or another. It means nothing FFS

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"This thread has been an interesting read. I've actually watched the outtake.

Three questions - to those who said this rhyme when they were young, why don't you still say it now or teach your children to say it?

Why do people think Clarkson asked for it to be cut out?

Although many of us at times get frustrated with certain aspects of the media, is it desireable or acceptable to foster a 'shoot the messenger' society? "

I still say the rhyme but have always said catch a nipper so would teach what I used.

There are any number of reasons it got cut, shit scene, trying to make the show fit the running time etc I'll concede its more than likely its because JC knew the backlash he would get but then doesn't that show he has an understanding of the power his words have?

I know I have said some things in the moment that where perhaps a bit near the mark but one word does not define me. I have said jokes about race, gender, disability etc but I am not racist or homophobic or any other term used for discrimination.

As for shooting the messenger. This incident was dealt with. The scene was cut, no one had the chance to be offended until some expert decided to out clarkson. Why? To what end?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Couldnt give a toss about what he did or didnt say. The worlds gone pc correctness mad. Call me snowflake honky twat or whatever you like. Its just names people need to harden up a bit.

As for top gear i hate the show. I remember when it was about reviewing new cars on the market. Its now about 3 middle aged twats playing in cars around the world doing meaningless things or reviewing cars most of us will never get the chance to drive or own.

To be honest id be happy for it to be taken off air. But what i think counts for nothing as a few million others see it differently."

Exactly! The world has gone PC mad

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself"

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Ah yes the good old days when racist drivel called a 'comedy' show was popular..

anyone thinking that shite like that would or should be brought back needs to take a look at themselves..

btw, it used to think it acceptable for domestic violence to be tolerated as ok within a marriage along with a mans right to rape a woman in said..

we have moved on and are better for it..

Clarkson is a moron, a marmite character. Whether he should go is debatable but the fact that he's apologising for something he thought ok to say at least requires his conduct as an employee being looked at..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a disgrace to the bbc , The mirror said it's expert was 75% sure he used an offensive word in a bit of the show never aired so I think the 300+ people that complained about something they haven't seen isn't jumping on the bandwagon at all .

Sack Him Now ...... Frankie Boyle's free at the moment . "
what's frankie Boyle got to do with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we should have some more dead baby jokes facebook pages...

missing that freedom of wishing to cause offense

happy to want to dismiss possibly vulnerable people

Not really concerned that people are bullied at school,in work for being different from the others

freedom of speech is a wonderful thing.

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts


"He's a disgrace to the bbc , The mirror said it's expert was 75% sure he used an offensive word in a bit of the show never aired so I think the 300+ people that complained about something they haven't seen isn't jumping on the bandwagon at all .

Sack Him Now ...... Frankie Boyle's free at the moment . what's frankie Boyle got to do with it "

He would a less offensive presenter .

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

I wish we kept sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.

People will seem to be living in fear just in case they offend people.

Divide and conquer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can someone tell me an insult specific to white people from years ago that would cause offence today? Im struggling to think of one

Honkies

For those of us that remember "Love Thy Neighbour" from many moons ago other ones were "Snowflake", "Paleface" or "Big White Chief"

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By *0hnnyBrav0Man
over a year ago

Great Wyrley

I think alot worse gets said in rap music.

just my two penneth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a disgrace to the bbc , The mirror said it's expert was 75% sure he used an offensive word in a bit of the show never aired so I think the 300+ people that complained about something they haven't seen isn't jumping on the bandwagon at all .

Sack Him Now ...... Frankie Boyle's free at the moment . what's frankie Boyle got to do with it "

because he likes to make jokes about a disabled child?-I have said in the past if I was nearby as he made jokes about disabled children I would quite happily tell him what a fucking cunt he is.

Even he had to clean up his act a little.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

The mirror said it's expert was 75% sure he used an offensive word!!!

Anyone think there may be a hidden agenda here?

I am sure by now we have all seen the unaired close up recording him saying on the news:

eany meany miney moe

catch a mmmm by his toe

with a hand over his mouth looking very uncomfortable.

I am also sure we have seen the aired version where he is obviously a lot happier and being his usual buffoonish self.

I find myself asking 2 questions:

1/ How can anyone believe that a man clearly so uncomfortable with a script could be in the wrong? and if there is a fault is it not with the script writers and directors rather than the presenter?

2/ How did the papers get hold of the unaired footage? This seems to be more tabloid sleaze, maybe this outpouring of vitriol should be aimed at a sleaze-bag of a journalist, his editor and the proprietor who think its OK to publish more of their carefully scripted filth knowing that it will inflame racial tension and damage a mans reputation in order to sell a few rags!

The mirror said it's expert was 75% sure he used an offensive word!!!

I hope Clarkson sues the pants off them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Another nursery rhyme from the past

"Sticks and stone may break my bones but names will never hurt me"

Christ we're all humans, far far worse things happening in the world. When did the world get so sensitive!

Most people, regardless of colour, get called one thing or another. It means nothing FFS "

I'm frequently referred to as a sheepshagger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like him saying that Ron Atkinson was sacked for calling someone a lazy n off air during half time of a game

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a disgrace to the bbc , The mirror said it's expert was 75% sure he used an offensive word in a bit of the show never aired so I think the 300+ people that complained about something they haven't seen isn't jumping on the bandwagon at all .

Sack Him Now ...... Frankie Boyle's free at the moment . what's frankie Boyle got to do with it

He would a less offensive presenter ."
I see lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist. "

So calling you white is racist but yet calling someone the "N"word is ok and "we" should accept it.

Is that your point?

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By *2123Man
over a year ago

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Clarkson for prime minister!!

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By *2123Man
over a year ago

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" The mirror said it's expert was 75% sure he used an offensive word!!!

Anyone think there may be a hidden agenda here?

I am sure by now we have all seen the unaired close up recording him saying on the news:

eany meany miney moe

catch a mmmm by his toe

with a hand over his mouth looking very uncomfortable.

I am also sure we have seen the aired version where he is obviously a lot happier and being his usual buffoonish self.

I find myself asking 2 questions:

1/ How can anyone believe that a man clearly so uncomfortable with a script could be in the wrong? and if there is a fault is it not with the script writers and directors rather than the presenter?

2/ How did the papers get hold of the unaired footage? This seems to be more tabloid sleaze, maybe this outpouring of vitriol should be aimed at a sleaze-bag of a journalist, his editor and the proprietor who think its OK to publish more of their carefully scripted filth knowing that it will inflame racial tension and damage a mans reputation in order to sell a few rags!

The mirror said it's expert was 75% sure he used an offensive word!!!

I hope Clarkson sues the pants off them!"

+1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Clarkson for prime minister!! "

Here's me thinking Wales is an independent country.

Who's you present Prime Minister?

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist.

So calling you white is racist but yet calling someone the "N"word is ok and "we" should accept it.

Is that your point?

"

I think you mentioned something about not twisting what you said in an earlier post , and the poster said ' whites like you ' which tbh is a sweeping generalisation , but she didn't say anything about the 'n' word being okay .

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist.

So calling you white is racist but yet calling someone the "N"word is ok and "we" should accept it.

Is that your point?

"

Nope because to be honest I am not bothered that you called me white. I was just pointing out how hypocritical you were being. Who's twisting things to suit now?

Don't think ever said you should accept it. I was questioning it's offensiveness if it was said to no one in particular and not to incite racial hatred.

Have you ever told a joke about other races? I can think of a well known children's rhyme about a China man, ever said that in your adult life? Any Scottish man, irish man, Welsh man jokes? Or are they ok because they aren't about skin colour?

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

I've just noticed that the short arse has stopped posting in this thread , where you gone chap ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist.

So calling you white is racist but yet calling someone the "N"word is ok and "we" should accept it.

Is that your point?

I think you mentioned something about not twisting what you said in an earlier post , and the poster said ' whites like you ' which tbh is a sweeping generalisation , but she didn't say anything about the 'n' word being okay . "

I see, so when she said "it was not meant in an offensive way" when she used it when a child.

What way would you like me to take it from a white person?

Do enlighten me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mother used what was deemed racist words but that was the way people spoke then as she was brought up in a different age.

I would have thought that we have moved on from then and would consider peoples feelings and respect them.

In this day and age it is not acceptable to use abusive terms just because of a persons skin colour or religion.

I was taught the same nusery ryme but substituted the word mouse for the " N" word when my son was a child is that so difficult ???

Respect people when they tell you something is offensive !!!!!

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By *2123Man
over a year ago

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"Clarkson for prime minister!!

Here's me thinking Wales is an independent country.

Who's you present Prime Minister?"

Wales isn't an independent country?

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By *coobyroo218Couple
over a year ago

Guernsey

I think a lot of people need to look at the contaxt it was said in not what was said.

It was said in a rhyme that anyone over the age of 40 (brought up in the seventies either said it a lot or heard it a lot when deciding on who to pick for their team or who to pick as "it".

He DID NOT say it to a coloured person he DID NOT say it in a racist way he was mimicking out the rhyme. If it was ever said at all. So where does all this racist crap come into it, if i as a WHITE person went up to any coloured person and said "hey nigger hows it goin" I would deserve to what came next, but that is whats wrong with todays language its OK for one colour or creed to do it but everyone is up in arms if another does it, seems like double standards to me!!!!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist.

So calling you white is racist but yet calling someone the "N"word is ok and "we" should accept it.

Is that your point?

I think you mentioned something about not twisting what you said in an earlier post , and the poster said ' whites like you ' which tbh is a sweeping generalisation , but she didn't say anything about the 'n' word being okay .

I see, so when she said "it was not meant in an offensive way" when she used it when a child.

What way would you like me to take it from a white person?

Do enlighten me"

The same as you take.it from a black person. You know.....equality and all that!!

Unless I am calling it directly to your face in an insulting and offensive context then I will understand your offence.

And 'she' never used to say the n word as part of the rhyme. 'she' has said twice on this very thread that 'she' used to and still does say nipper. Unless that's offensive to children?

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over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist.

So calling you white is racist but yet calling someone the "N"word is ok and "we" should accept it.

Is that your point?

Nope because to be honest I am not bothered that you called me white. I was just pointing out how hypocritical you were being. Who's twisting things to suit now?

Don't think ever said you should accept it. I was questioning it's offensiveness if it was said to no one in particular and not to incite racial hatred.

Have you ever told a joke about other races? I can think of a well known children's rhyme about a China man, ever said that in your adult life? Any Scottish man, irish man, Welsh man jokes? Or are they ok because they aren't about skin colour?"

Make your mind up, first you sang then you tell we're too sensitive??

What you really mean is we should accept it and stop being sensitive.

And you call me a hypocrite?

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By *0hnnyBrav0Man
over a year ago

Great Wyrley

Bored of this thread now so will stop reading....

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I sang?? I sang what??

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Like him saying that Ron Atkinson was sacked for calling someone a lazy n off air during half time of a game "

it was only "off air" in the uk... the rest of the world got to hear it....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

Storms and teacups??

Next you'll be telling us it's ok to use nigger and other such words word as "it's what we did when we were young"

I had a mail off a guy a few days ago who called himself exactly this word, so you tell me

Was he black? if so fine

If he was white then it's racist, hope that helps to clear any confusion you have in your head"
is this guy serious? If its ok for a black guy to call you nigger then why get so insulted?

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By *coobyroo218Couple
over a year ago

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"Bored of this thread now so will stop reading...."

God you are good, can stop reading but still reply

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its silly and he shouldnt be sacked lol.

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over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist.

So calling you white is racist but yet calling someone the "N"word is ok and "we" should accept it.

Is that your point?

I think you mentioned something about not twisting what you said in an earlier post , and the poster said ' whites like you ' which tbh is a sweeping generalisation , but she didn't say anything about the 'n' word being okay .

I see, so when she said "it was not meant in an offensive way" when she used it when a child.

What way would you like me to take it from a white person?

Do enlighten me

The same as you take.it from a black person. You know.....equality and all that!!

Unless I am calling it directly to your face in an insulting and offensive context then I will understand your offence.

And 'she' never used to say the n word as part of the rhyme. 'she' has said twice on this very thread that 'she' used to and still does say nipper. Unless that's offensive to children?"

Just like JC said he never said it but edit it out please BBC.

Next you'll be telling the world ius square and to accept it

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over a year ago


"Its silly and he shouldnt be sacked lol."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If an employer was only 75% sure that an employee had done an act of gross misconduct could they sack them or would that be unfair dismissal?

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By *coobyroo218Couple
over a year ago

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"If an employer was only 75% sure that an employee had done an act of gross misconduct could they sack them or would that be unfair dismissal? "

Surely it would be unfair dismissal as how can you be 100% sure you are right to sack them???

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over a year ago


"Storms and teacups, especially as it was a rhyme we all used when we were younger, there is so much going on in the world and that's the best they could come up with, it's the papers who should be ashamed if themselves

Storms and teacups??

Next you'll be telling us it's ok to use nigger and other such words word as "it's what we did when we were young"

I had a mail off a guy a few days ago who called himself exactly this word, so you tell me

Was he black? if so fine

If he was white then it's racist, hope that helps to clear any confusion you have in your head is this guy serious? If its ok for a black guy to call you nigger then why get so insulted?"

You for real??

Because a white person said it so deemed racist.

If it's too complicated for you to absorb,sorry but i cannot help you

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist.

So calling you white is racist but yet calling someone the "N"word is ok and "we" should accept it.

Is that your point?

I think you mentioned something about not twisting what you said in an earlier post , and the poster said ' whites like you ' which tbh is a sweeping generalisation , but she didn't say anything about the 'n' word being okay .

I see, so when she said "it was not meant in an offensive way" when she used it when a child.

What way would you like me to take it from a white person?

Do enlighten me

The same as you take.it from a black person. You know.....equality and all that!!

Unless I am calling it directly to your face in an insulting and offensive context then I will understand your offence.

And 'she' never used to say the n word as part of the rhyme. 'she' has said twice on this very thread that 'she' used to and still does say nipper. Unless that's offensive to children?

Just like JC said he never said it but edit it out please BBC.

Next you'll be telling the world ius square and to accept it

"

Mate you are losing it now. Making things up that I have said and making stupid statements. Is it just that you want the last word or something??

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I watched the clip..half expecting the cars to be to be back and white lol

I do think on this occasion its way over the top...but as I have said before, I find the 'slope' airing(which was actually broadcast), as actual racial mockery.

All he needs is a little more self control...offending views he has about other races/countries/sexes, can be kept private

while not being a fan of top gear..or him...I still wish sometime the cars to be viewed were the focus anyway and not the stupid meanderings they get up to.

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By *2123Man
over a year ago

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To be honest racism is only acknowledgment, I mean this is quite a prime example. Yes it's offensive, but does It need to be this blown up by journalists and the press? I bet 95% of people wouldn't of even known if wasn't for that, then that 95% of people just jump on the bandwagon. It's a work that's deemed as ' highly offensive' now but only through acknowledgement of it, it seems acceptable enough for black people to drop the N bomb but white people aren't allowed, if it's that bad it should not be any more acceptable for one person to use it than another.

To be honest it's a fact people hate clarkson and maybe this is why it has be come so blown of of proportion? But let's face it the BBC cannot afford to loose Clarkson.

Plus I'll never know how I think it was the 'sun' newspaper managed to write 2 pages on the matter.

It's pathetic and blown well out of proportion, jeeeez!

Plus it's a Saturday, lovely day I couldn't care less about the 'clarkson N word case' I'd rather crack a tinny open and chill out than discuss a matter that is just a blown up pretty much am irrelevant blown up matter, your all as bad as the journos and press!

There a FAR FAR more important matters going on in this world, it's corrupt and people are astonished by Clarkson dropping the N word? That shows what are country has come to!

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ali G Says Nigger all the time and his white!!!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Another nursery rhyme from the past

"Sticks and stone may break my bones but names will never hurt me"

Christ we're all humans, far far worse things happening in the world. When did the world get so sensitive!

Most people, regardless of colour, get called one thing or another. It means nothing FFS

I'm frequently referred to as a sheepshagger "

Do you support The Rams as well

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"This thread has been an interesting read. I've actually watched the outtake.

Three questions - to those who said this rhyme when they were young, why don't you still say it now or teach your children to say it?

Why do people think Clarkson asked for it to be cut out?

Although many of us at times get frustrated with certain aspects of the media, is it desireable or acceptable to foster a 'shoot the messenger' society?

I still say the rhyme but have always said catch a nipper so would teach what I used.

There are any number of reasons it got cut, shit scene, trying to make the show fit the running time etc I'll concede its more than likely its because JC knew the backlash he would get but then doesn't that show he has an understanding of the power his words have?

I know I have said some things in the moment that where perhaps a bit near the mark but one word does not define me. I have said jokes about race, gender, disability etc but I am not racist or homophobic or any other term used for discrimination.

As for shooting the messenger. This incident was dealt with. The scene was cut, no one had the chance to be offended until some expert decided to out clarkson. Why? To what end?

The reason some people have substituted the word 'nipper' in that rhyme is the same reason that piece of film is an outtake. It is widely acknowledged that the 'N' word is in itself offensive to the majority of Black people. I would suggest it is extremely offensive to almost all Black people when used in a derogatory way.

The rhyme has it's roots in slavery and catching and abducting Black people.

Do you understand just how offensive that is?"

Yes. I know the history of the word and I know why the word was substituted for others in the rhyme.

My question is, if a word is used in a context that is not racially motivated is it still offensive.

People use the term grammar nazi on here all the time. Don't see them getting hauled over the coals about it do you?

My stance on one group of people bring allowed to use it but said group if people being offended if I use it still stands. Black people not only use it as a word to indicate friendship and brotherhood, they also.use it in anger and violence so.it's not about reclaiming the word at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Complete and utter bollocks in my opinion, blown out of proportion to sell tabloid shit.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I just don't think it's a word that should be used by anyone to be honest....

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over a year ago


"it as not meant in an offensive way this rhyme was always used when I was a kid and we didn't think anything about it

people are way too sensitive about things nowdays

Guess we blacks must be wrong, we should accept it as a compliment to be called the "N" word, you happy now?

O

How do you take it if another black person says it or calls you it?

Same way you would take it if another white person called you Honky?

So it means nothing to you then. If that's what the undecipherable mumble was and it wasn't aimed at anyone, no group of people, wasn't said to incite racism or hatred is it offensive?

If you don't like the word you should not use it at any time, regardless of colour. You treating the word differently depending on who said it is actually discrimination. Treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin!

Means something to me when whites such as you are telling me it's ok and accept it?

Whites like me?? Is that not racist???

I am not TELLING you anything. Merely having a discussion about it. Perhaps giving a point of view you don't like but that's life I'm afraid. Not everyone has to agree with you.

How is calling you white racist?

Calling me black would not be racist either,however calling me the "N" word is racist.

You don't have to agree with me nor have i asked you, just giving you my point of view, accept it and stop twisting it to suit yourself

Errrr because white is my race!! Racism can happen the other way round you know.. Using it in the phrase 'whites like you' is racist. What I'd I'd have said 'blacks like you' you'd have found that racist.

So calling you white is racist but yet calling someone the "N"word is ok and "we" should accept it.

Is that your point?

I think you mentioned something about not twisting what you said in an earlier post , and the poster said ' whites like you ' which tbh is a sweeping generalisation , but she didn't say anything about the 'n' word being okay .

I see, so when she said "it was not meant in an offensive way" when she used it when a child.

What way would you like me to take it from a white person?

Do enlighten me

The same as you take.it from a black person. You know.....equality and all that!!

Unless I am calling it directly to your face in an insulting and offensive context then I will understand your offence.

And 'she' never used to say the n word as part of the rhyme. 'she' has said twice on this very thread that 'she' used to and still does say nipper. Unless that's offensive to children?

Just like JC said he never said it but edit it out please BBC.

Next you'll be telling the world ius square and to accept it

Mate you are losing it now. Making things up that I have said and making stupid statements. Is it just that you want the last word or something??

"

Nahh not losing it but seem to have got your convo mixed up with someon else.

Quite difficult replying to 5/6 different poeple on here

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By *o-j OP   Couple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

I got the last word .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No you didn't ... The world would be a poorer place if we all had to conform... Live and let live... It must have been a slow news day .. Wasn't broadcast and typical press digging for shit...

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

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Was he black? if so fine

If he was white then it's racist, hope that helps to clear any confusion you have in your head"

Isn't that itself racist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jeeeeze so what its a ryme ffs!!

Big deal!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

part 2 coming

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over a year ago


"This thread has been an interesting read. I've actually watched the outtake.

Three questions - to those who said this rhyme when they were young, why don't you still say it now or teach your children to say it?

Why do people think Clarkson asked for it to be cut out?

Although many of us at times get frustrated with certain aspects of the media, is it desireable or acceptable to foster a 'shoot the messenger' society?

I still say the rhyme but have always said catch a nipper so would teach what I used.

There are any number of reasons it got cut, shit scene, trying to make the show fit the running time etc I'll concede its more than likely its because JC knew the backlash he would get but then doesn't that show he has an understanding of the power his words have?

I know I have said some things in the moment that where perhaps a bit near the mark but one word does not define me. I have said jokes about race, gender, disability etc but I am not racist or homophobic or any other term used for discrimination.

As for shooting the messenger. This incident was dealt with. The scene was cut, no one had the chance to be offended until some expert decided to out clarkson. Why? To what end?"

The reason some people have substituted the word 'nipper' in that rhyme is the same reason that piece of film is an outtake. It is widely acknowledged that the 'N' word is in itself offensive to the majority of Black people. I would suggest it is extremely offensive to almost all Black people when used in a derogatory way.

To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

The rhyme has it's roots in slavery and how acceptable it was to catch and abduct Black people.

Do you understand just how offensive that is?

Can you understand why using the 'N' word in such a derogatory 'slave based' rhyme in 2014 whilst filming a BBC program is huge news to those who find it offensive?

If you accept any of these points then you may begin to appreciate that the journalist has a duty to expose such behavior in a hope that it happens less in the future.

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"This thread has been an interesting read. I've actually watched the outtake.

Three questions - to those who said this rhyme when they were young, why don't you still say it now or teach your children to say it?

Why do people think Clarkson asked for it to be cut out?

Although many of us at times get frustrated with certain aspects of the media, is it desireable or acceptable to foster a 'shoot the messenger' society?

I still say the rhyme but have always said catch a nipper so would teach what I used.

There are any number of reasons it got cut, shit scene, trying to make the show fit the running time etc I'll concede its more than likely its because JC knew the backlash he would get but then doesn't that show he has an understanding of the power his words have?

I know I have said some things in the moment that where perhaps a bit near the mark but one word does not define me. I have said jokes about race, gender, disability etc but I am not racist or homophobic or any other term used for discrimination.

As for shooting the messenger. This incident was dealt with. The scene was cut, no one had the chance to be offended until some expert decided to out clarkson. Why? To what end?

The reason some people have substituted the word 'nipper' in that rhyme is the same reason that piece of film is an outtake. It is widely acknowledged that the 'N' word is in itself offensive to the majority of Black people. I would suggest it is extremely offensive to almost all Black people when used in a derogatory way.

The rhyme has it's roots in slavery and catching and abducting Black people.

Do you understand just how offensive that is?

Yes. I know the history of the word and I know why the word was substituted for others in the rhyme.

My question is, if a word is used in a context that is not racially motivated is it still offensive.

People use the term grammar nazi on here all the time. Don't see them getting hauled over the coals about it do you?

My stance on one group of people bring allowed to use it but said group if people being offended if I use it still stands. Black people not only use it as a word to indicate friendship and brotherhood, they also.use it in anger and

violence so.it's not about reclaiming the word at all. "

The word your missing is SOME black people. Use that word the majority it in this country are normally youngsters copying the the hip hop culture from the USA.

Do you think this represents the view of all black people?

I have my own mind and nobody speaks for me

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Mirror group runs nasty story about Murdoch journalist. That is the story!

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